Miguel Torres: 'A rematch with Brian Bowles is more important to me than a title shot'
by Jesse Holland on Jan 25, 2010 12:22 PM EST
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"I've used the same training partners for 11 or 12 years, and I haven't brought any of them back for this fight. What ended up happening was — I wasn't getting cocky, they got cocky. They would say, 'Oh, you're going to kill this guy. He's only got seven fights. The guys I had coaching me were there just to give me water and talk my face off. They weren't giving me anything I could use. Looking back, I can see there were a lot of things off. But I was in a bubble at the time and couldn't see it. I was trying to go out there and put on a show, impress the crowd and make them look at the 135-pound division. This is a chance for me to come back and show I can be a better fighter. I don't think your wins define your career, I think you're defined by how you come back from a loss. I want Brian to lose (at WEC 47). He'll want to come back strong and then I'll have the best Brian Bowles there is. If he loses that fight against Dominick and he loses the belt, I wouldn't want a fight with Cruz. I would want Brian Bowles. A rematch with Brian is more important to me than a title shot."
Former 135-pound kingpin Miguel Torres goes back to basics after a stunning defeat at the heavy hands of new bantamweight champion Brian Bowles at WEC 42 back in August 2009. Bowles will make his first title defense at WEC 47 on March 6 in a bout that will have Torres driving the Cruz bandwagon so that he can get back into the cage with Bowles and prove his loss was a fluke. Will Torres get his revenge? Or has his storied championship reign come to an end, much like Urijah Faber's did at WEC 36 now that the WEC has a stacked roster? Of course none of that matters if Torres can't get past Joseph Benavidez, also at WEC 47. What say you?
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WAR MIGUEL!!!!
I like the fact that he could see that for his self about his trainning partners. “GOOD EYE” Torres thats a real student IMO
YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYBODY SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL PLEASE YOU!!!!!!!
by BigDickChainey on Jan 25, 2010 12:29 PM EST reply actions
proper fighter.
fights over belts. that is the sign of a true fighter. the best fights are never title fights.
it's all about don frye
really? I remember Rampage getting crucified everytime he says the title isnt important to him!
He just threw training partners and coaches of 11 years under the bus!
btw, anderson is years away from retirning and he has about 7 or 8 big UFC fights in him!
sounds like he will vacate the title after the Vitor fight
agreed...and he should fight Nate before he vacates
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
Nate had his chance!
you dont hear Anderson begging to rematch Ryo Chonan!
Nate should be happy to fight for the title, he needs to forget his Anderson pipe dream which will just cost him another ass whooping, and another 2 years with6out the title!
Anderson/Nate & Torres
Personally I’d have loved to see part 2 of Andy/Nate, yes I’m almost certain Andy would win again as I don’t think anyone can beat him, but I do give Nate of now a better chance than Vitor.
And I think Torres is a cocky lil shit, and I hope Bowles smashes his head open again. He got what he deserved. He blames the ‘yes’ man he had, but how bout the fact that in his MMAmania interview he said “I’m not even going to throw a jab the whole first round”. Too cocky and looky looky what happened.
Good for em.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 25, 2010 4:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Got a lot of respect for Torres
His mind and now his training will be what it should be.
And yes it would be shitty for Silva to vacate before giving Marquardt his due.
The one and only Smitty...
Really?
I can see that if you mean he doesnt have the most techincal stan-up game, which is how most of his fights have been playing out recently.
But his MMA submission game is other-worldly. He ties people up, uses his long limbs to throw unorthdox sub attempts from eveyr position.
Its not his fault people arent willing to go to the ground with him, He was able to beat most people on the feet with his agresion, chin, and heart. and didnt feel the need to take it to the ground where he dominates 100% of the bantamweights.
I wanna see Ashley Sahffer on your TIT
AMERICA.....FUCK YEAH
nicely put.
"If we fight for money, I'll stop hitting you when you ask me to. If we fight for honor, I'll stop hitting you when i feel like it." - Rickson Gracie
yea exactly
average standing, impressive on the ground + i don’t consider his weight class one of the better in mma.
fresh like uhh.
agreed roberto
The 135 class just isn’t top tier enough to me to consider him THEE pound 4 pound best, even before his last loss.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 25, 2010 4:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeh this guy is all class
He brings it every fight. I hope he gets the belt back. Very fun to to watch. I went to the Fedor Strikeforce card and this guy took 25 min. to get to his seat he gave everyone a autograph that came up to him. Can’t wait for his next fight.
Guy all class? lol i hope he gets smashed for talking shit on British fighters on MMA live
“I’ve used the same training partners for 11 or 12 years, and I haven’t brought any of them back for this fight. What ended up happening was — I wasn’t getting cocky, they got cocky
WANDY RIP Bispings going to toy with you then destroy you
i met Miguel
When Brown fought Garcia here in Corpus and he was a complete cocky prick!
by PSYQO78 on Jan 25, 2010 1:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
not surprising to me
I can see he is a cocky shit from miles away.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 25, 2010 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He was calling out Floyd Mayrunner thats how cocky he got
then he got beat a few weeks after that
WANDY RIP Bispings going to toy with you then destroy you
It was a fluke
No doubt about it. Can’t blame him for wanting a rematch more then anything. I see the second fight looking much like GSP-Serra 2.
How was it a fluke?
Bowles destroyed Torres in that fight, he outstruck him and outwrestled him plus Miguel wasn’t able to use any of his BJJ to trouble him either. Just because Miguel is a more marketable and charismatic fighter doesn’t make this fight a fluke, everyone was saying the same thing about MTB when he beat Faber and look at what happened when they rematched.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Torres needs to
Spend more time training and less time spamming out chinese proverbs on Twitter. At least he acknowledges his failings recently in his training camp, the real skinny is in how he performs against Bowles next time out…
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 25, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Miguel is truly one of the greatest MMA fighters of our time. Up Until the Bowles fight Miguel had been beaten once and strung off 17 wins and he had fought anyone who was anyone in his weight class. He defended his title multiple times.
49-1 before the fight
I met him before he joined WEC and his record wasnt even recorded at the time he started. I joined his school and this dude is a beast…i can see what he means about his training partners cause a lot of things he said are true….Bowles blows, he got lucky and was losing the fight…Miguel coulda and shoulda subbed him…his next oppenet is gettign subbed 100%
How was Bowles losing?
He was in complete control, he dropped Miguel and took him down then when they got back to the feet Torres got desperate went for a Vitor style flurry and got counterpunched and brutally KO’d. He got his arse handed to him that fight and this talk of it being lucky or a fluke is a load of shite. Again, just because Bowles does boring interviews and doesn’t have a big name doesn’t mean that he didn’t deserve to win, in fact he destroyed Torres.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Bisping n Wandy on mmabay radio http://flpoindexter.podomatic.com/player/web/2010-01-24T13_22_20-08_00
"Respect is only for outside the octagon. Inside the octagon I respect nobody. What I’m thinking is Michael will be afraid to fight with me in the stand-up, because his punches haven’t knocked out anybody and he’s going to try to give me the double leg with the head outside. He’ll have just one takedown, I know which way he’s going, I have my game plan to beat him in this style."
Bisping responded to that by saying:
"First of all he needs to do his homework and look at my record, there’s plenty of knockouts on there. If he feels I haven’t got the power in my hands then come spar with me, come hold pad for me. We’ve got a fight on the night and he’ll discover that. I’m not saying this cockily, I’m just stating the facts. I have got power in my hands, believe me. Ask the sparring partners I’ve been knocking out. I’ve got one takedown, that’s laughable, I’ve got several takedowns. I’m not afraid to fight Wanderlei, this is what he keeps saying. I’ve never been afraid to fight Wanderlei or anyone. I’m a professional fighter, this is what I do for a living. I enjoy fighting, I enjoy the challenge and I’ve never been afraid of anything, of any man. I’m gonna go in there, I’m gonna train my arse off and I plan on winning the fight. To say that I’m afraid is redicluas."
When asked whether he can take anything from Dan Henderson’s recent knockout win over Bisping, Wanderlei said:
"Yes, Dan Henderson showed me the way. I’m just going to copy Dan Henderson."
Bisping soon responded by saying:
"Do I think there’s holes and areas I can exploit? Of course I do. I think there’s many areas. I think to be honest he’s a bit of a one trick pony. He comes out there and swings with punches, he throws a few kicks, he throws a few knees but other than that you haven’t got to worry about too much."
When asked if he had anything he’d like to finish with, Wanderlei quipped:
"All I gotta say is good luck cos he’s gonna need it (laughs)"
Not to be outdone, Bisping made it clear he was not impressed by "The Axe Murderer’s" comments:
"I think the award for most original line in the fight game definitely goes to Wanderlei on that one."
WANDY RIP Bispings going to toy with you then destroy you
One trick pony? Bisping is officially retarded
Who has he ever knocked out in his career? All of his TKO wins in the UFC have come as a flurry, even against substandard opposition. Hendo was laughing at his weak punches in the middle of the fight. Only really top KO artists have been able to KO Wandi and if Bisping thinks that Wandi is one dimensional and that KO’g a bunch of nobodies at Wolfslair will be enough to beat a legend then he’s deluded.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
link
http://flpoindexter.podomatic.com/player/web/2010-01-24T13_22_20-08_00
WANDY RIP Bispings going to toy with you then destroy you
What do you mean how was he in control?
Look at the fight again. Miguel landed so many clean shots and he nailed bowles perfectly before the flurry. About him going to the ground…that happens all the time, he slips and not a single person is about to go down on the ground with him…same thing happens to faber, he falls and slips all the time…Miguel will win 9/10 against bowles. I can acutally say Cruz will KO bowles…mark my words.
Also...
Its a fight, just cause bowles landed a shot and miguel fell doesnt mean antything..this isnt boxing. If I swing with little gloves on, i bet you any money in the world i will land and connect on him also
re: just cause bowles landed a shot and miguel fell doesnt mean antything.
Really? Lol, here I thought it meant that Bowles won and Torres lost. Guess that’s meaningless.
worbanizer
by daniel worby on Jan 25, 2010 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That mir guy is talking complete nonsense, I don't even think he watched the fight
Apparently knockdowns, takedowns and a brutal KO are meaningless. Maybe this is actually Frank Mir on the thread, as he’s always been a huge Torres fan and implies that he’s winning when he clearly isn’t on commentary.
"If I could change my name what would it be? Jesus"
Tito Ortiz (seriously...)
Where does he fight out of?
Does anyone know anything about his training camp?
Cocky or not cocky, I love watching this guy fight. I think this loss may have been what he needed to crank it up a notch. Curious about his training…..his cardio is crazy. Watch how long he goes in some fights totally breathing through his nose, completely composed.
War Miguel! I miss the reign of the mullet!
Torres is a Gud ass fighter!
I think he will beat Bowles in a rematch. I really want 2 see it. The 1 st fight was exciting. Bowles is no joke but neither us Miguel
by d*locc on Jan 25, 2010 5:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Cocky yes, but still one of my favs in a wec cage.
Hopefully the loss will help shrink that ego, i love seeing his name on the card, always an exciting fight. I’d love to see a rematch against bowles and you have to give him credit for wanting to avenge that loss over going for the title…
"When they took away headbutts, I had to learn some skills." Mark Coleman
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