Chael Sonnen blasts 'boring' Anderson Silva and his contempt for the MMA community
by Akimitsu Kuwabara on Jan 22, 2010 11:45 PM EST
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UFC middleweight contender, Chael Sonnen is not one to mince his words, however vitriolic they may be.
With his impending clash against another top contender, Nate Marquardt, at UFC 109, the Team Quest member may be just one bout removed from a shot at the title currently under siege by Anderson Silva. While hoping for a title shot if he bests Marquardt, Sonnen does not have particularly high regard for the current UFC middleweight champion. In fact, he unleashed some choice words for Silva and his manager, Ed Soares during his recent appearance on MMAWeekly Radio.
Apparently, nobody likes to watch Anderson Silva, who has a dirty little secret:
"I would imagine, who knows what Anderson's doing. At the end of the day, who cares. If he wants to leave the division, leave the sport, who cares. Beat it, nobody tunes in to watch him anyways, and his little fake 'I don't speak English. You want me to let you in on a secret, Anderson Silva speaks perfect English. He just has such a low amount of respect for you and all the rest of the media that he pretends he doesn't. I've had conversations with Anderson Silva in perfect English, and on top of that he's so boring to listen to that he and his rocket scientist manager, Ed Soares, who is also about as exciting as watching grass grow, have decided that Ed is better on the mic than Anderson, so just let Ed do the talking.""
And what is so great about Silva?
"It's quite ironic that all the media comes on and talks about how great this guy is for reasons that are completely un-understandable to me. How great Anderson Silva is, and all of us fighters are in the back going, 'jeez, they're out there massaging his ego, Anderson hates them so much, he pretends he can't understand them. That guy's no more the top fighter out there than Bigfoot is roaming the woods. That is an absolute myth, and all these guys can buy into it, but there's a young man out in Portland, Ore., that is not signing up on that bandwagon. If Anderson ever signed to fight me, which is highly unlikely, he'll be getting a verbal beating like you've never seen. And his language barrier won't be the point of interest."
Silva's manager, Ed Soares, also spoke to MMAWeekly to provide his retort to Sonnen's remarks. He prefaced his statement with a compliment for Sonnen, but also thinks he's struggling for air time.:
"I think no one will really pay attention to what he has to say unless he probably talks about Anderson. I don't think people pay too much attention to what Chael does. Saying that Anderson's boring or Anderson's this, Anderson's that, we don't even need to go back and see what Chael has done. If you really want to analyze Chael's career over the past couple years, he's had some wins, but he said he didn't tap against Paulo Filho. If the ref wouldn’t have stopped the fight, Paulo Filho would have his arm in Brazil with him. And when he beat Paulo Filho, he was 35 to 40 percent of a Paulo Filho and he took him to a decision. Then he went and fought Damien Maia, got submitted quick, and now he's going to fight Nate Marquardt which Nate just ended up knocking out Damien Maia. I think Chael should be really focused on his fight that he's got against Nate Marquardt because I can tell you right now that's probably going to be the hardest fight of his life. I would put my money on Nate."
Anyone think Sonnen is talking his way into an eventual "Spider" fight?
For more on UFC 109: "Relentless" fight click here.
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Fuck you Sonnen
I have no desire to ever watch that pathetic loser fight, the only exciting fights that he’s ever had are when he’s been beaten up. The guy has no class or charisma and is a typical Team Quest dick head. I can’t wait for Nate to smash that ugly boring piece of shit at 109 then Sonnen can sod off back to anonymity and the world will be a better place. What a jealous arrogant prick.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
So your a big fan of Sonnen is it David??
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
Sonnen sucks balls
Even when he’s trying to stir some s*** he stills sounds as boring as Fr. Stone (I think it was) from Father Ted with the incredibly boring voice. Know what I’m talkinb bout tkkpal
What ever he says I can’t help but think what a tool, I have to re-read what he says so I can understand it
yea, i would hope some gang from brasil comes and lays this homo out.
what a focking joke that guy is, he’s ugly, can’t fight for shit and is apparently braindead, serve his head on a platter so i can stomp his head into cherrypie.
fresh like uhh.
Noone wants to watch anderson silva?
sonnen, u re a boring fighter! a sore loser and OVERRATED, the only reason he can talk about silva like that because he knows he will never have to get in the ring with him
Agree and disagree with Sonnen
First of all Sonnen, don’t call people out for being boring, you wrote the book of boredom…
Secondly, he is correct. AS does speak English well enough to do his own interviews. I’ve seen him talk English without problems with translation. He does seem to pretend he doesn’t understand the language half the time.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
nah all of them know about as much english, it’s just easier for them if Ed take over so everything comes out right.
fresh like uhh.
The easy two questions at the end of a fight with Joe
He doesn’t need anyone translating “How do you feel after that fight, AS”
He knows what it means and how to answer it.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
no, but that question is also the most boring to get. i’ve seen him take over the mic a couple times now so there’s nothing to talk about.
fresh like uhh.
I know he has taken over the mic a couple times
That’s the point. How come he can talk English sometimes, and other times he can’t understand the words “Can I have an autograph” ??
He pretends to be ignorant sometimes, just to suit him. And nobody calls him out for it.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
If he doesn't always like speaking the language
He should go fight full time in Brazil. They won’t ever ask him to speak English.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I'm just really getting sick of Open Soares talking about AS
as though he were the second coming. AS is a dick to the fans and the media.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Eh?
Seems like a nice enough guy to me; guess I never been to an event to try and get an autograph from him though.
Hey Mac you guys say that shit a lot eh? eh? eh? eh? eh?
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
AS is the most entertaining fighter in the UFC so i don’t know about being a dick to the fans or media. besides, media is a bitch. you don’t have to speak english at all, nobody cares he can speak in whatever language he wants it’s his choice, may not be smart but he doesn’t care about marketing himself.
fresh like uhh.
Agree, Roberto
Yes OD, Canadians do say “eh” a lot. It’s the same as anywhere else you go. A lot of people say:“huh”, or “know what I’m saying” or “get it?” It just means “hey buddy what do you think”. What do you say at the end of a sentence to let the other person know it is time for their answer or view? It has to be something, think about it, everyone has something.
I agree Robeto, the man should be judged on his actions and accomplishments inside the cage, not his mic skills or his personality. He is one of the best of all time. It doesn’t really matter what he does before or after a fight(within reason). But I will never be a fan, so we’ll leave it at that.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I say
MotherF*cker at the end of every sentence to get the point across like this:
“Down on the ground right now Motherf*cker! Now throw your wallet over to me Motherf*cker!”
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I lol’d at that mother fucker.
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
by Jamie The Peach Hunter on Jan 23, 2010 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha...godd one eh?
I forget who bvut someone just yesterday was asking me why the hate for Sonnen. I don’t hate anyone I’ve never met but hopefully Sonnen’s arogance is shining through here to clear things up a bit
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
Great points RoB
Sonnen is the most boring guy in the whole division and hasn’t ever been exciting to watch compete or do interviews, most of the media wouldn’t even bother asking him questions that’s how little they think of the guy. I don’t know who hates the guy more now mate, me or you haha.
Jay, Andy does try to speak English and claimed on the 101 DVD that he’s taking lessons so that he can communicate better with the fans. I’m not bothered about what he says to the media, as long as he gives time to his fans I won’t complain. Machida can speak excellent English but still likes to have Soares by his side, so they probabaly both feel more comfortable with their manager helping them during interviews. He speaks better English than I speak Portugese so I’m not going to complain about language barriers. Sonnen’s just being a dick because the guy is a non-entity and has no fanbase of his own.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
no.
leaving aside the boredom remarks, Sonnen is spot on. Andy does have an air of contempt for people that aren’t going to swing off his nuts. well, fuck him and props to Sonnen for speaking up and calling it like Rashad Evans did. he might be a frontrunner for P4P status but being a 2bit faggot isnt going to endear him to anyone. Fedor might have no english but he comes across amicably and doesnt fuck around if he’s mismatched wit someone
"I had to fight all my life to survive. They were all against me... but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch." ~ Ty Cobb
by RearNakedPoke on Jan 24, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Who Cares Whether He Can Speak Our Language Or Not
He’s a fighter all he’s required to do is fight, which he does very well. And I have no idea why someone would want Anderson Silva to fight full time in Brazil, yeah lets hurt the sport!
by theworldismine on Jan 24, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ya, I know the Priest your talking about...
Fr Ted is a goodshow, doogle makes the show tho.
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
Is this normal for a man to have such feelings about another man?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jan 23, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
say what u will
but isn’t this the same guy that beat the #2 MW like a lil bitch, both times, just the first time paulo had a horseshoe sorta like mir had against lesnar the first time. sonnen also made paulo reconsider even being a professional fighter. i think it could be an interesting matchup. anderson’s bigger than all the other MW’s except chael. where chael’s wrestling isn’t as technically perfect as hendo’s, he’s bigger and stronger and could control anderson better than hendo did. people are all on marquardt’s nuts, but if the same sonnen that fought filho shows up to fight nate, i think it’s a decisive victory for sonnen. marquardt needs to be fighting b-level guys like bisping,he’s never beaten anyone to speak of!!!
you’re underrating Marquardt, I think. He’s looked like a monster lately. I do, however, agree that Sonnen is extremely underrated and I think he would have a good shot at beating Anderson if he worked his sub defense.
No one gave him a shot against Okami and no one gives him a shot in this fight, so we’ll have to see. That being said, I still have to pick Marquardt based on his incredible steriod strength and well-roundedness.
"Matt Hughes and his brother used to pound each other out behind the barn."
-The legendary Mike Goldberg
Maia submitted Sonnen in the first round and took him down with ease
Nate trains with world class wrestlers and is also a dynamic striker. He’s coming off some huge wins including a 30s KO of Maia. He’ll be far too well rounded for Sonnen and is going to smash him at 109.
Chael has done the unthinkable and got me interested in this fight, now I want to see Nate smash him and provide me with an early birthday present.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Sonnen is a funny guy!
Thats some funny shit!!! what an asshole! But I give him props for trying to promote a fight…
I think he’s a little bitter that he’s been in the sport for so long and and its only now that his name is starting to get attention…
Sonnen knows he’s gonna beat Nate Marquardt, so He’s doing his best to promote a fight between him and Anderson Silva… Sonnen is a damn good fighter, in the past few years his only losses were to submission specialists… He’s playing the bad guy on purpose… I remember after his last fight he was talking shit about Okami and how Okami didn’t promote their fight well enough….
I dont think he has a chance against Silva. but I think he’s gonna beat Nate by decision.
And why is everybody saying that Sonnen is boring? that dude throws hands all through out the fight… In my opinion he’s pretty fun to watch…
Not a fan of Sonnen
But he is a smart guy. He tries to promote his fights, even with his limited abilities at it. He also gets zero media attention and knows getting his name out there is what gets him money. I hope he beats Nate, I don’t want to see Nate/Silva.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
The Dan Miller fight was one of the most boring fights that I've ever seen
And it wasn’t Miller that made it boring.
The only thing that Sonnen’s good at is wrestling, he won’t be able to take Nate down and is going to get destroyed on the feet in their fight. His biggest win is over a drugged up post-breakdown Filho and he still couldn’t finish him and even lost the first fight by getting sloppy. Filho was good in his day but at this point a win over him is meaningless, at least until he gets his personal and drug problems sorted. He’s the MW Karo.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Yeah
He is trying to get more famous via Shane Carwin approach, talk shit about the campion haha.
by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 23, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
It has been working in the UFC. I'd try it too if I were him.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Sadly you're right
It’s laughable that Carwin and Mir got their interim title fight because of their Brock bashing whilst more skilled fighters like JDS, Big Nog and Cain aren’t in the title picture (unless Mir and Carwin KO each other which would be funny). At this rate college wrestler and muai thai fighter Striker Dave will be signed up next to face Brock because he bashed him as well.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
That shit right there was funny David, very witty indeed...LMAO!
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
I like Sonnen
Hes a great fighter. But he should not be calling people boring. He never finishes fights, and usually isn’t much more exciting than a wet blanket
I can't wait to see Nate
tear this douchebag’s head off
......
Marquardt looks amazing at the moment imagine if Sonnen beats him he will take all his momentum like Hardy did with Swick. I hope Marquardt destroys him for saying this. Anderson is clearly the best fighter in the world imo.
WANDY RIP Bispings going to toy with you then destroy you
Kind of agree
Marquardt does look really sharp lately. I was at 102 in Portland (such a great night of fights) and was hoping for a good fight between him and Maia, but that knockout was brutal. I like Nate a lot but think Sonnen will be a solid opponent. Chael did come off like a major goon with some of those comments though, what are you doing man…
If you wanna fight Silva show up and perform against Nate and earn it. Beating Marquardt is a tall order but I think there is a chance Sonnen could pull a decision victory if he has an excellent night. I wouldn’t beg against Nate though.
As far as Anderson being boring… I don’t get it. The Thales fight was aweful, truely aweful but Silva is a freakin’ madman. The english thing is just kind of dumb to even mention IMO. Who cares. I met Anderson (at the meet and greet session for 102) and he understood english very well and was easy for me to understand, but I don’t think that means he has to use it after the fights if he’s more comfortable using Soares.
p.s. – TonyUK… your signature is precious. Trust me when Wanderlei finally does rest it will be in peace… because he’ll get to look back at the fact that he pounded Mike Bisping’s head into oblivion. Toy with and destroy my man Wandy??? You are delusional.
I have been watching MMA for 16 years and it is the best sport on the planet! Most of the people that post in these forums make me furious on a daily basis by being a-holes or just dumb as hell... then I look around and realize ahhhh I'm at home and am just as guilty as all of you idiots.
Anderson Silva is two faced.
I remember seeing him back when he first got the belt, sitting in the crowd, wearing a f-cking fur coat, and thinking to myself this guy must be a tool. You should re-watch the Forrest Griffin v Anderson Silva fight again. You’ll see how much of a dick Anderson is if you watch that fight again.
Don't need to
I know AS is a dick and so does everyone else who’s paying attention.
by Lester The Pimp on Jan 23, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
oh and
I met him he is like tito a dick to everyone but his fans he has all the time in the world for you and he spoke a little english but not enough to hold a conversation
That's enough for me
I couldn’t give a toss about what he thinks about the media, most journalists are two faced dicks anyway, but if he treats his fans well then it proves why he is my idol. They’re the ones who support him through the rough times and don’t turn on him after one or two disappointing performances so I’m glad that he makes time for his fans.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
I don't watch AS to be my best friend and share half of his sandwich with me during the lunch hour. Just fucking fight. Go invest in some goddamn tissues, your tears are overwhelming...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
He wouldn't share the sandwhich with you either eh?
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Hell no, motherfucker!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
haha...he's not sharing his sandwich with anyone but Ed "open" soares
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
Same here
I’ll never get bored of that fight. Andy is a showboater and made a complete fool out of Forrest. I can’t get enough of showboating if it’s done by someone who can back it up and nobody does a better job of goofing around and still getting devastating KO wins than Andy.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Agree with Sonnen
He’s spot on, Anderson is an asshole and so is his scumbag manager Shady Soares.
Not that Sonnen is much better though.
by Lester The Pimp on Jan 23, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions
boxing pays better
when his contract is done and they try to resign him you will all see the truth. anderson wants to box because that is where the big pay day is. you can tell buy the way he acts that he knows good english. having known many people whose primary speaking language was not english it is easy to spot when they are playing dumb.
brock lesnar owns fedor's soul
Who the fuck is Sonnen?
well i guess Sonnen has a point. I mean Anderson is pretty boring when his opponents refuse to fight him (leites)…Other than that, i think he is one of the most exciting fighters to watch in all of MMA. The guy moves like fuckin’ butter, man. He was born to kick ass.
The only reason Sonnen is interesting to watch is because i want to see someone punch that tennis ball bump coming out of his ribs and i want to see what would happen.
"This is a non-title fight Joe, so its scheduled for three five minute rounds" -Mike Goldberg (You mean Terry Etim and Shannon Gugerty arnt fighting for a title?)
sonnen
if silva is really a jerk who cares the guy can fight bottom line.
WAR SILVA!!!!
THOSE SOUND LIKE FIGHTING WORDS! an sonnen should worry about the fight in front of him an not AS kuz i dont see him winning that one anyway. mayB he thinks AS is boring kuz he finish most M/F in the first or second rounds. hell so did Mike Tyson an everybody still bought the ppv an they knew it wuz not gonna last long so unless he wins against nate “witch i dout” juz sit back an stop crying.
you should google or youtube BLACK BOULE/ JAY-Z DECEPTION
I suspect Sonnen is partially right
I don’t quite understand why he would talk bad about his fighting but I always suspected Silva’s disdain for the media and lack of respect in general. Watch any interview after the fights and he shows disrespect towards Rogan by not letting Joe get close to him and walking away in the middle of talking. And I also suspect the whole “I don’t speak English” was his BS way of disrespecting all the english speakers around him.
Sonnen is not very exciting to watch but he works his ass off in the fights with his wrestling and yeah like Fitch comes across as less than exciting but no reason to trash the guy. He clearly gives it his all in the fights.
I’m glad Sonnen has called Silva on this stuff. Don’t see him getting past Nate though for a title shot.
Lol I knew David WS was guna explode!
N8 is guna smash sonnen! Who the fuck is chael 2 be disrespecting silva & fedor?!
I was just about to go to bed and just checked Mania for any updates when I read this
I completely snapped mate haha, Sonnen just leaped right to the top of my most hated list and I can’t wait for Nate to smash this nobody.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
I got to meet Anderson Silva.
He was very nice and respectful when I met him.
Are you a hot chick??
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
All Access
Damn right TKK. I thought he was going to slam Leah in the Helicopter. That show was outrageous….
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 23, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
That was classic, Rachelle clearly fancied Andy
Got to respect the ladies man Anderson Silva. That show just proved how awesome he is.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
All over him
and he was loving it. What was that all about? Supposed to be about his training and 60% of the video was him taking her on helicopter rides, motorbike rides, dancing, joking, gazing into each others lives etc etc.
I’d be interested to hear Rogans interpretation of it!
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 23, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Haha that was classic
All Access meets Blind Date, can’t beat it.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
I ask cause he doesn't seem to be nice to the average fan, well that seems to be the general consenses anyway.
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
Sonnen is just trash talking in case he happens to beat Nate....
It’ll provide some hype for a potential title fight. Not a bad strategy. Unfortunately for him, Nate is going to crush him in a couple of weeks and none of this will have mattered.
Sonnen is a loser
He clearly wants attention and I understand that, but I think he went too far here. He just looks like a loser now. Goodbye Chael, I won’t be watching any of your fights.
why all the anti Silva crap
I think some of the posts on this topic are just wrong. AS is a champion fighter and champion person IMO based on everything I’ve seen and hear over the many years of watching him compete. Unless you know him personally how can you comment on his capabilities of speaking “good” English? I watch the UFC to see guys like AS fight and could care less if he even bothered sticking around to speak with Joe Rogan. Some fighters just don’t want a mic shoved in their face after a fight and I honestly believe he isn’t comfortable with his range of English and doesn’t want things mis-translated. As for being AS boring…thats a joke!! The only thing Anderson is getting bored with is the quality of opponents and IMO should move to LHW. Think about it…AS resides and trains in Brazil with Brazilians……surely one would expect his speaks in his native tongue all the time….so why do so many of you believe he is disrespectful for not speaking English after his 1-3 fights per year in the US???
I’m sure those guys on Team Nogueira would met and trained with AS during TUF 8 would strongly disagree with those who choose to question the quality of fighter and person AS is.
Nobody question the type of fighter AS is.
Because you can’t. To try would be useless and impossible. How come he understands English and speaks it fine sometimes, but other times he can’t? Why does he always have a look on his face like he wants to kick everyone in the room? Since I can’t understand most of the stuff that comes out of his mouth, I watch his face and body posture. He thinks he too good for any of this.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
his after match body language isn't the best I agree
You do make a valid point about his body language in post match interviews and sure maybe AS doesn’t like them, especially after the media bashing he got after the Cote & Leites fights. My question is does it really matter?? Do we watch MMA for the fights or do we want more from these guys now. I love Joe Rogan but could care less about the after fight interviews. I’m sure there are plenty of other fighters who aren’t that keen on them. I don’t want or expect anymore from the fighters other than a good fight. I do believe the language barrier is an issue, not just for AS but obviously for us too and Im not prepared to pass judgement on AS in a negative way because things do get lost in translation and I don’t know the guy…but man can this dude fight.
Agree egotrip
I still love watching the guy, and don’t care about the stuff before or after the bell. But just wanted to put the argument out there that AS isn’t perfect. I knew this could turn into a giant AS lovefest and a Sonnen hatefest. With DAVID prowling over this thread the way I do with Brock threads I had to throw him something to yell at me about. LOL
Just playin’ with ya DAVEY.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Haha no worries mate
I’ve calmed down since last night so there’s no more raging from me today and at least you respect Andy’s skills as a fighter even if you don’t like the guy.
Every Andy thread is an Andy lovefest for me and from now on every Sonnen thread is going to be a hatefest for me as well. I’m a loyal fan to my favourites but I’m equally vindictive against those fighters that insult my favourites so this is going to be a lifetime grudge against Sonnen. Can’t wait for the inevitable beatdown at 109 from Nate the Great.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Don't worry David, I will be your back up. I have defended AS for a long time on these threads. I remember being one of the few people in my section at 101 cheering for AS while everyone else cheered for Griffin and booed AS. Some people just hate...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
OJ, you guys planning on teaming up on me here?
It will take at least two of you to think of excuses/reasons for his behavior.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Hahaha. Nope. David does a great job of debating on his own. I will let the spry, young gun do all the work. I am an old man, I need my rest. :)
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
LOL
He does do well himself, on all topics. To be fair though, defending AS is a lot easier than it is to go against him. I’m fighting an uphill battle here.
I replied to the E-mail.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Cheers lads
Jay, you’re fighting a losing battle going against Andy, you can’t fight against true greatness. I learnt the hard way when GSP outclassed Alves, Alpha still won’t let me forget how badly I underestimated GSP haha.
As a person he isn’t perfect but he seems to be good to his fans, he has a lot of pressure on him being the best MMAst in the world and it doesn’t help when his boss publically bitches about him or his fights if he doesn’t win in the opening rounds. I don’t blame him for not wanting to talk to the media. As for the way he treats his fans I’ve heard your story about how he was being a bit of a dick but I’ve also seen and heard about how friendly and respectful he is to the fans. At least he doesn’t go out and tarnish his name or that of the sport and the UFC by breaking the law or causing trouble, if the worst thing that he does is show contempt to the two-faced media when they ask dumb questions then I can’t criticise his character.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Agree, David
I will let up a bit. To be honest, he could probably read my body language the day I met him. I wasn’t interested in being in the same room as him, and the autograph was an after thought. He probably thought I was going to sell the thing, because I wasn’t acting like everyone else there. You could tell who the people were that were star struck by him. I probably came off as someone who doesn’t know who he is, since I was so indifferent toward him. I probably came off as some old dude who doesn’t watch fighting, since I don’t wear tapout like everyone there. I don’t think I was putting off the air of a fan. I certainly don’t dress like one. I understand where he is coming from.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Now if I was there I'd have been bugging him all night, I'd have been worse than you and PW stalking Brock on facebook lol
I’d have been the ultimate arse kisser, I’d have even tried to learn some Portugese phrases so that I could tell how how awesome he is.
I don’t usually wear MMA shirts either but I’ll end up getting one for the next time I go to an event, though it’ll be a fighter specific one (probabaly an Andy or a Hardy one) as the generic tapout and UFC shirts have never looked that good to me and the Affliction ones are well overpriced. Might even order a Hardy bandana as well.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
I would get a Hardy bandana for sure.
I do buy all this shit, I just don’t wear it on the outside. Tapout shirts and stuff are all good for undershirts. Everyone I know gives me that stuff for Christmas, since they know it is one of the few things I enjoy. I wanted to get one of those GSP headbands when I was in Montreal, everyone was wearing them, I have no idea where they got them all.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
A group of lads sat next to me at 105 all had Hardy bandanas
Apparently someone was giving them out for free outside the arena, I was gutted that I didn’t get one.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Same feeling I had about the GSP head band
I asked everybody. I NEEDED one of them.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I'm out too boys.
Little guy just woke up. Play time for Dad is over. Talk to you guys later, have a good weekend.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Will do mate, all the best
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
TBH
I only really care about how these guys perform in the ring and with the likes of Silva we are blessed to see such greatness. He could call me a dick all day long but I would still watch all his fights and love every minute.
Hughes is a dick but I used to love watching him too, you could go on with loads of great fighters Wandy, Rampage, BJ, Diaz…. Getting punched hard in the face has to change your personality for the worse surely???
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 23, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
It gives you an air of superiority knowing you can kill any one in the room
with one kick. It has to.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Wandi actually is supposed to be a really nice guy
Agreed though, it’s a tough lifestyle and I can understand fighters having off-days and not being that nice to talk to or meet every once in a while but to be fair to them MMAsts are in general very fan friendly, far more than other sportsmen like footballers. The only sportsmen more approachable than them are rugby league players and they are just like regular blokes anyway because they don’t get paid that much.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Martial Artists
I think anyone learning the discipline of martial arts has to learn respect as that is a prevalent theme in all of them. As mentioned earlier though, being very tough and knowing it will change you as will betting KO’d occasionally!
BTW Wandy in Pride and IVC was surely not a nice guy!
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 23, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Wandi was a killer in Pride
I think his bad guy status there was more hype than anything else. He was always going to be the villain because he destroyed Sakaraba 3x and it was a part of his mystique. He’s always respected the fans, he is just not the guy that you disrespect or piss off hence the feuds with Rampage and Arona. Plus he wasn’t the guy who took a cheap shot during the Chute Boxe-Hammerhouse brawl, that was roid head Coleman who stomped on Wand’s head.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Ok. Thanks. I am outta here. Have a good weekend Maniacs. Chat with you on Monday!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Later
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Will do mate, talk to you on Monday
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
HaHa
I know what you’re feeling. My hate for Mir or BJ isn’t as strong as your new found hate for Sonnen. I’m sure you’ll get over as soon as Nate says AS is slow or something. Then you will be calling for Sonnen to rip Nates heart out. I know where this is headed, I’ve been down this road with Mir because of Carwin mouthing off.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Haha true, though to be fair Andy and Nate seem to have a lot of respect for each other
I doubt that Nate is going to insult the guy who proclaimed him as the next guy to dominate the MW division. Plus he’s already been destroyed once and would look ridiculous if he laughed off Andy’s skillset. Only Sonnen would be stupid enough to piss off the Spider, look at what happened to Forrest just because Drysdale was mouthing off.
OJR, nice to hear that at least someone was cheering for Andy at 101, I’d have been going crazy if I was at that event, I was bad enough just watching it on tape hungover. It was priceless when all of those fans did a 180 because Andy killed their hero and suddenly they started cheering for him again. Damn bandwagon jumpers.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
It was like they ripped off their Forrest shirts and there was a AS shirt underneath
Bunch of bandwaggoners is right. I could hear that on my TV. The audience did it at the first event I went to. The infamous Starnes fight. We were all going crazy for Starnes(Canadian) but about 4 minutes in you could feel the swing. By the end Starnes was giving the audience the finger, then we laughed him right out of the country. You can feel who the audience likes in a fight. Probably helps the fighters a lot.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Haha to be fair the turn on Starnes was inevitable
What did he think that the crowd would do? You don’t run away from your opponent, that is an act of pure cowardice and pisses on everything that MMA and combat sports in general stand for. Had to love Quarry’s Rocky IV speech at the end as well.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
The running man and the hammer fists were the best part; the Rocky speech was corny
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Running man was epic
The Rocky speech may have been corny but it was still damn funny.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
I thought the Rocky speech was cool
It was all really funny to me. Starnes looked like a total idiot.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Have to agree with you there jay, AS always makes me feel like he thinks he is too good for everyone, smartass expression he always has, he needs to be KO'd and put back in line.
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
Do i really?? How does this sound....stfu??
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
posting on MMA thread while sleep deprived and intoxicated isn't smart
just acknowledging I should proof read…..but I think I made my point…. (Brazilians in Brazil…LMAO)
It wasn't that bad.
I understand what you meant. Not bad, depending on how intoxicated you are. :)
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I understand what you meant. Not bad, depending on how intoxicated you are. :)
:) I only get to drink hard 2-3 times a year because Im a full-time footballer (in Australia) and when i do drink…it can get messy
Sonnen is the ultimate tool
Nate is gonna KTFO of Sonnen. I predict this one will finish in less than 2 mins.
Sonnen is trying to create hype for a fight that he wants to be in!!!!!!
If he talks enough then everybody will want to see Anderson kick his ass, then when Dana see’s $ signs it will happen. After Nate destroys Chael then he will no longer be an issue, honestly I think Nate is the only in the UFC right now that could give Anderson a fight, I think Nate can beat him!!!!!!
It does seem to work that way now
I totally agree with everything you posted!! :)
Is it just me or have you guys also noticed more and more fighters calling out other fighters just like Dan Hardy v Marcus Davis as example??? and now Hardy gets GSP!! I like how Kos was quick to put Hardy in his place….like a dog marking his territory. It hasn’t worked out for Gray Maynard wanting BJ but thats a no-brainer. I see nothing wrong with it but unfortunately Sonnen aint got the tools to beat AS.
silvas a beauty
he aint desrespectful…..quite the opposite. Hes probably the most humble and soft spoken fighter next to fedor
Fedor can speak some English too..
Maybe AS doesnt feel comfortable speaking a language he doesnt know very well.
this asshole makes me embarrassed to be from portland.
show some respect to a guy that has dominated this weight class for years and is obviously a great and entertaining fighter whereas sonnen isn’t even shit. ok so he beat dan miller and okami in UFC but lost to maia and got run out of UFC before losing to Jeremy Horn and Babalu. Anderson has yet to even come close to losing (even lutter) and shows no signs anytime soon. chael, shut you fucking yapper and show some respect for those who will beat you down like the chump you are including marquardt because your ass isn’t gonna even come close to a match with anderson.
Anybody remember "Major Payne?"
“Well, that’s one death warrant signed. Do I have another?” If this fight ever happens, which it won’t, Chael may need to kiss his wife and kids goodbye BEFORE he heads to the arena.
The last guy to diss Anderson Silva was???????
Chris Leben, I think Anderson Strike % in that fight was 100%, he even said after the fight that he did not like Chris talking shit and wanted to beat him up…………………….and did, that was a beat down. The problem with Chael is that he doesnt deserve a shot, he is clearly speaking out of turn!!!!!!!!
I'm sure Sonnen respects Silva the fighter
But I suspect he’s right about the other stuff. The dude has been fighting for an American company for 3 1/2 years, is one of their champions. While I don’t necessarily expect him to master the language as he is not living in this country, a respectful guy would be trying a lot harder than he is to speak some english. Most of the other Brazilians are trying but he hides behind Soares for the translations. I think it’s BS.
I don’t doubt the guy’s fighting ability at all. He’s unbelievable. But he’s clearly disrespectful while being interviewed by Rogan and his “no habla” during the press conferences. Good for Sonnen for calling it out.
My General Thoughts
Sonnens good, not good enough to beat Marquardt, who is the second best middleweight in the UFC. Hes an idiot for trying to get publicity talking about Silva, when he should be thinking about MARQUARDT. And oh yeah, Silvas a fighter, not a public spokesperson, his only job is to fight.
Chael Sonnen Knows What He's Doing
Chael Sonnen knows exactly what he is doing. He never speaks out of turn, so when he does talk, listen. Anderson Silva is NOT untouchable, and there are fighters out there who have a decent chance at coming out the victor. Silva’s next opponent, for example. Vitor Belfort has quicker hands than Silva does, and he hits way harder. Sonnen only has to worry about being submitted, but not from Silva. Silva hardly goes to the mat, so Sonnen has just as good a chance as his next opponent, Nate Marquardt. Marquardt should win the rematch against Silva. HE has imroved 100%.
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