Canada fires back at Brock Lesnar after UFC champ slams 'Third World' health care
by Jesse Holland on Jan 22, 2010 10:10 AM EST
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"I take real exception to being referred to as a third-world country operation. We have state-of-art equipment here. We are hardly a one-horse operation. The attending physician was very qualified and very respected. He's been in the business for more than 30 years. And he has the skills to diagnose a condition such as diverticulitis without a CT scan. We have checked this particular health record and were are quite confident that the correct diagnosis was given and the best course of treatment offered. I wouldn't be so arrogant as to compare ourselves to the Mayo Clinic, they're the experts. But I really take exception to someone giving us that kind of media coverage for their own political reasons. Who knows, maybe he didn't like the bill."
Carmel Olson, CEO of Brandon's regional health authority, rebukes Brock Lesnar's assessment of Canadian health care after the UFC Heavyweight Champion was hospitalized during a hunting trip due to painful symptoms stemming from his bout with diverticulitis. Lesnar referred to the experience to being in a "Third World" and subsequently segued into a cheap plug for his own views on U.S. health care reform. Any MMAmaniacs out there North of the border that can argue for or against the pasty-faced champ?
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Do we really need to go over this again guys? Lets all just agree to disagree
I for one don’t want to discuss health care again today
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Agreed, I sure as hell don't want to read another 500+ posts!!
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
Yeah, this thread is 2 days too late...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
WOW
Jesse Holland reads the Globe and Mail. I’m impressed!
but yeah… no health care today from me
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
No Health care talk.
How many times have we already destroyed threads with this?
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
yep...I'm gone...hopefully we'll get another thread soon....even a John G fight announcement about nothing would be better
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Canada healthcare TKO 2nd round via gross negligence
"You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea."
by Buster Bluth on Jan 22, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
A john G
Fight announcement. LOL those things are always full of great info.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
curious
did you guys check the email I sent re: Pfizer…
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I did...great read actually.
Part of the reason I’m burnt out on this subject…Thx again BZ
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
MBOW,
wake kev up and get him to do up a BB convo…haha
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
I’m stuck in the back row with my dog on the way to Florida right now. 9 hours of this shit! At least it’s pool weather, so when I get there I’m going to get shit faced and go swimming! The worst part is, I have to go until Monday without the green!!!
shit...you can find some if you put your mind to it
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
I COULD, BUT
We are going down to visit my parents. Figured it best this way, even though my dad knows.
Where in Florida you headed?
North of Naples has been chilly, not cold but chilly for Florida weather. I am in Tampa area and after tommorows 80, it will be low 70’s high 60’s in the day and 40’s low 50’s at night. Anyway if you are in the Tampa area and need a heads up on what to do post up!
in your FB inbox...hot wedding profile pic btw!!!
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
noooo....novel idea eh?
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I read it too
Thanks BZ. A lot of that was covered in sicko.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
was it?
I’ve seen it but don’t remember.
Michael Moore is not one of my fav people.
I can tear masses of misinformation out of his films. But he is a voice for those without one.
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
didn't brock get misdiagnosed in canada, but some backwoods hospital in the U.S.A. found the real problem??????
that is what i thought happened, then dana white made him go to the mayo clinic.
sorry canadian “doctor” , but yalls incompetence almost cost lesner his life. i can understand why brock would have a low opinion of you.
be thankful you don’t live in america where people have a choice of which doctors they get to see.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 22, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
You nailed it
I don’t have any choice of the doctor I see. I gotta ride 200 miles in my horse and buggy just to see my doctor. And it’s uphill, both ways.
I think it was ‘yalls incompetence’ that diagnosed him with mono wasn’t it?
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
i really don't know, i stopped following brock until some real news came out. if i'm mistaken then i'm mistaken. i thought he was misdiagnosed in canadia aye.
still aye, if he says he recieved crap care i have to take his word for it aye. is that cool with you jay aye?aye?
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 22, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
It's eh.
You’ve never seen the way “eh” is spelled anywhere before? I’m not being a dick and calling you out for spelling. I just thought everyone knew for Canadians it is “eh”. I understand the mix up for you.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Brock was diagnosed with mono and then decided to go hunting in Canada. The quote seems to imply that the doctor in Canada made the diagnosis of diverticulitis but didn’t order a CT scan to confirm because he was certain that it was diverticulitis.
PS It’s a myth that Canadians can’t choose their doctor/hospital/pharmacy. However, I have heard that in the US, HMOs force you to go to certain hospitals.
I got you, man. Check your email.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I actualy had a good one tucked away for a boring day like this...but since you guys ike to Mock me when I am not even around...you can wait for all the slow ass websites to get wind of it!
“HOW RUDE” (In my best Full HOuse , Michele Tanner voice) lol
just report it John
It’s called busting balls, don’t be the guy who can dish it out and not take it
either way, I’m out, going to play cards!
c'mon johnny...we may mock ya but we all know your going to read it anyway...we're not trying hide anything from ya
you of all people know who is joking and who isn’t…and make your picks in the Pick’em pool man!!! quit draggin your ass!!!
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
C'mon Johnny.
Feed the poor hungry masses. We kid, you know that shit.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Yeah Yeah
C’mon Johnny
Show your damn cards
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Where's the headline and the stars?
This doesn’t look like a real announcement. Now I don’t know what to think.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I will make a fanpost, just figured I would get it to you guys faster
so u dont gotta talk about Focking healthcare!
Its legit!
A little bit
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
who you guys like in this match up?
Very interesting fight between 2 always improving young lw’-s.
Very h6ard fight for me to call
I like Etim
he has been one of the more impressive imports from the UK
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I would probably make Etim a slight favorite
opening around ’-150
But Dos Anjos IMO is on the cusp of breaking out and sTART WINING THE ClOSE DECISIONS he has been losing. He took Tyson to War!
he replaced someone to face griffin AND stephens if I'm not mistaken...
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I would say it is...kev
both6 being ’-120, or even would be even
‘-135’ to ’-150 would be slight favs.
what are your definitions’-s for slight fav and how do you see this fight?
Etim will win this Rafael isn't that good
I was screaming at him to leg kick Tyson but he didn’t do anything, if you have someone injured like that then you have to capitalise.
Etim is the better striker and is capable of finishing a fight at anytime. His reach will be a big factor as well. Hopefully this is a sign that he’s going to make the step-up in competition, he’s been babied for too long in my opinion.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
just breaking your ballz back
you guys can dish it, but cant take it?
Shoulda held out for a few hours, but I havent been on this site ALL WEEK, and its boring around here today!
you have your own site now too is the rumour...got a link?
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
is it a wordpress site?
back to the old days
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
I've been to his site.
It’s good. Just like Mania, but you can say and post ANYTHING.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Dos Anjos takes this imo...I remember his fight with Jeremy Staphens and thought this kid's got hart and talent
but Etim has always looked crisp too….that is a very tough fight to call…good matchmaking too
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I have a poll to kill the boredom. Checl it out. End plu!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Sorry, I will try to use English. Check it out. End plug!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
nothing special dude!
I dont need to be giving out more info for you guys to flame me!
how do i take a peak?
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know if Mania will get angry
But he allowed it before so….
MMAcrazed.com
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Nothing wrong with your site, Johnny.
I like the way the articles are written. You can almost tell the authors are from Philly.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
thanks, but you are in the minority of the few and mature bloggers
Dont have much time to do much for the site….I basically do what I do here….write the meat and potato’s of whats important, and let the editors write the articles….Occasionally, when I have the time, and I really like the topic, I go crazy and create a masterpiece (which I take serious)…next time I do that I will give you guys a heads up!
wow! Its been ages since I jacked a thread now that we can do fan posts. I missed it! lol
I DONT KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS ALREADY....
Havent been around much, dont know if it was post it, but thought it was cool so I figured I would pass it along…Kev is just going to tell me that I am 3 days, 9 hrs, and 46 seconds to late! lol
“_A press conference formally announcing UFC 112 for April 10 in Abu Dhabi is expected for next Wednesday, according to Yahoo! Sports. The event could take place in an outdoor arena – constructed specifically for the promotion’s first trip to the Middle East – which would mark the first outdoor show in UFC history”_.
I heard the same thing
I guy that does work for me came back from Dubai last week and he’s into MMA as well.
Looks real.
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
ya thats old BUT interesting and exciting news
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
did you guys get all the Nick Diaz quotes this week? some good stuff....
mmajunkie:
“I’m just fighting who they want me to fight,” Diaz said Wednesday on a conference call promoting the Jan. 30 fight, which will be broadcast on Showtime. “Whatever. That’s how it is. I’m just fighting who they want me to fight.”
ust before stepping on the call, Diaz told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio) that he’d made a lot of changes in his life, and cutting the trash talk may just have been one of them.
“I try not to open my mouth,” Diaz admitted.
“I’m ready to fight anybody,” Diaz said. “If they can make it, then let’s do it. I’m ready to fight Jay Hieron and everybody in this weight class to get to the top. Whatever, I’ll do it.”
The point, he said, was that he was done with the extra hype. He had a fight to focus on.
“[Zaromskis], nobody knows who he is, but in my opinion, he’s pretty important,” Diaz said.
Despite a reputation as a brawl-at-all-consequences fighter, Diaz said he will take the fight where Zaromskis was weakest.
“He kicked a lot of [his previous opponents] in the head,” Diaz said. "He gets them going backward a little bit. I’m a little bit taller than those guys. I’m not saying I couldn’t easily duck into a head kick, but I watched the guy and how he fights. I know how those guys got caught with kicks. I’m a lot different style than (Hayato) Sakurai.
“I’m a different style of fighter than anybody in mixed martial arts right now.”
Diaz also said he is fed up with the focus of the casual fan and said they lack a sense of history. He paid tribute to Bob Shamrock, his first MMA coach and Ken and Frank Shamrock’s adopted father who recently passed away, and said he called Frank “a legend”
“I don’t think people respect people” "How do you forget about these people? It’s crazy.
“We’re talking about Forrest Griffin now, who’s terrible in my opinion. I like Forrest, don’t get me wrong. I don’t like to talk bad about these guys, but come on. It’s not fair. We should be talking about the people who started this [expletive].”
“[Strikeforce welterweights are] better than anybody in the UFC, except for maybe the top guys,” Diaz said.
“I’ve had a lot of changes in my life, so it’s good to have had a long break,” Diaz said.
looks like junkie got it from SF website cause the part where Diaz called GSP a "pussy" is missing...no joke...I've been trying to find it all morning
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Got to love Diaz
Only he could bash a p4p great and claim to not talk shit in the same interview. He made great points on Bob Shamrock and casual fans and the Griffin comment was priceless.
I’m glad that he’s taking this fight with Marius seriously as well. He needs to come in with a smart gameplan for this one and take Whitemare down because you can’t risk standing with someone who has such great head kicks as well as a wild improvised style.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Diaz said "I don’t think people respect people" and then called Frank "a Legend"?
If I had a little more time, right here is where I would post that picture from the SF press conference where he double “stockton-hey-buddy”-ed Frank to his face.
by Canucklehead. on Jan 22, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
today?
how about all week! we had 600 comments in a Brock thread that had nothing to do with Brock, and mania had 3 Brock threads (that essentially said the same thing) within 3 hours of each other
It was a great debate, DSmith. Your input is always appreciated.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I got Etim...
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
by The Negation on Jan 22, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Did I mention
that healthcare in Canada isn’t “free”?
Just busting balls. I dont want to read 500 posts either, especially when we all know the Americans are right!!!
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Not all Americans, just you mex.
LOL
I thought with a name like Mexicutioner, you would be from somewhere else, maybe a little further south perhaps?
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Thanks, for replying
I wasn’t trying to be nosy. I just always wondered. I have been reading your posts for a few years(here and BE and somewhere else too, I think).
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
LOL this is brutal and I'm Canadian
I don’t think Brock can talk to the media, they take every word he says and hang out the negative. Brock later that day stated no matter what country he was in he would of wanted to come back to the US. For obvious reasons, his statement about Canada being a third world country is blown way out of proportion. LOL the man can say nothing without getting heat….f^ckin media.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
he didnt like the bill..f**k of lesnar wine somewhere else..best health care around…dont campare canada to the mayo clinic that what they do you tool..i would never go to the states i dont have that kind of money . if i were to break my arm how much would that cost me to fix in the states?..cause i know here its free like it should be!!!!
Thats not the point knight
He felt more confident and comfortable being in the US as a Canadian would feel the same about being in the US. He just had a bad choice of words and this is brutal that the media is able to attract such negative attention on this subject.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
i agree
dont get me wrong..its just here its free there its not…i feel comfortable cause here they have my records and know the history..of course if he comes to canada he may have a bad visit with our type of system…as i would there..but at the same time if he would have gotton checked out when ppl were telling him to he would never have been here..
by knightmir88 on Jan 22, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Not only that but...
The guy stated he’s a conservative republican. Now, I’m sure we can all agree that Brock isn’t exactly a critical thinker, so i think he just freaked. He was really scared about his health (woke up “in shock”, not knowing where he was, feeling like he’d been “shot in the guts” and all he could think about was what conservative pundits like Rush Limbaugh have been telling their listeners for the last year, “Canadian health care is third wold”, I bet he even thought we were going to put him on a waiting list or something. I think he and his wife just just panicked and wanted to get “home”, so he bolted before they even had a chance to really assess him. Unfortunately, he’s shared his poor thinking skills with the rest of the MMA world and beyond. Really though, Brock is just spouting the propaganda he’s come to believe is true. Even worse though, on boards like this, the garbage manages to spread even further by commenters posting stuff like “I don’t know, I’ve heard some horror stories about Canadian health care…” with nothing to back it up.
Anyway, one of the most important facts to keep in mind is that while our system might not be “free”, the fact remains that there are ZERO medical bankruptcies in Canada this year, and there will be zero again next year.
Sorry, little late to the debate here but I thought I’d throw in my two (Canadian) cents.
by Canucklehead. on Jan 22, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Ha
Tiny Pic = Giant Fail
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Jan 22, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
is it just an X again It shows on my computer?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
haha...poor Puck...don't worry man, I have the same problem
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Damn I thought you meant him, I should have had a guess
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Who cares?
Like we’ve all been to the doc before (in America) and they’ve never once gotten a diagnosis wrong? This is a stupid war of words. If Brock was so worried, why doesn’t he have one of those Med Flight plans that gives you access to flights to a hospital of your choice? I mean, he has plenty of money to afford that. I seriously doubt his story about his wife driving 100mph to the hospital. If so, shame on them for risking the lives of everyone else on the road.
it is what it is!!!
i guess no matter what he says like puck head said..dont matter what he says there will always be a negative..
What it boils down to is: we(as Canadians) are insulted that he would refer to us as “3rd world country” But really who gives a shit what that redneck thinks anyways. He’s clearly a moron. Serious health issue that doc says is mono and you don’t believe him. So what do you do? Yeeehawww lets go sho sumthin up thur in canada. Out in the friggin boonies without any hospitals around. Then let’s risk everyone on the road in a mad dash out of the country like you are running from plague. But its all good cause I’m BROCK LESNARRRR!!!!
Don't think feel
Dont go that far
he just didnt feel comfortable here..he wanted to be in the u.s…..as i canadian i can understand wanting to be looked at in ur own country..
by knightmir88 on Jan 22, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not insulted
I would feel the same way in any country I was, get me back home were I feel safer? Brock comparing Canada to a third world country was a bad choice of words that he later retracted. The only reason Carmel is speaking back is because of how the media decided to highlight this statement.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
this was in the globe and mail?
thats hardcore media coverage
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
I like all the people in the US whining/complaining about having to potentially pay for a universal healthcare system. Where the fuck are these people when we are dropping 3 million dollar Predator missiles on goat herders everyday….talk about a real WASTE of money.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jan 22, 2010 10:11 AM EST reply actions
You must like me then
I personally think that universal health care would ruin health care. When incentive decreases so does quality. It could be seen, by some, as a waste to spend more and essentially recieve less.
I also think the protection of our country is very important so if those expensive missiles might be keeping America safe, then I don’t really consider it a waste.
Just Do It
-Nike
Those missiles are meant to protect our "investments' or to acquire political clout. Lets call a spade a spade...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Exactly.
‘Keeping America safe’ means protecting pocketbooks of lobbyists and securing new markets.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jan 22, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
You act like private health care would just dry up. There are still wealthy people in America that would be able to use these premium private health facilities. The difference is if I get in a wreck and don’t have health insurance, I won’t have to be in a lifetime of debt.
Every stop to think who really wants to keep health care privatized and for profit? Insurance companies and big Pharmacy. It hurts there bottom line when they can’t charge $300 for a bottle of pills that cost them $.50 to make.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jan 22, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
IT really is sad
how 1 comment taken out of txt can make ppl go crazy in debate
why do ppl run from topics like this
it will always be up for bebate by why change topics…if a mericans dont like it than found a group to make this way or something… its not canadas fault the us wont change its ways…health care for all should be the goal than threads like this wont happen is all im saying…so sad like 20 posts on this…
we're not running...we had this conversation/debate 2 days ago to the tune of 500 posts...look it up
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
We have done this a few times already
Two days ago. It’s still a good subject, but there isn’t much left to say at this point.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Good
Stay home Yankees; Canada does not need you to visit.
no doubt eh??
getting crazy out there???
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
haha...seriously? the olympics dude...
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
i think I do...when it gets going its alright...you know, when the good sports are on commercials
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I only care about the summer olympics
Britain never do anything in the winter olympics, the only coverage on British winter olympians that I remember was Eddie the Eagle (a ski jumper who came last in every event) and the ladies curling team when they won gold medals. Not much to get excited about to be honest, especially when we have the summer games coming here in 2012.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
lol
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
only hockey...
and ski/snowboard jump contests
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
big luge fan here
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
you watch CFL?
Edmonton Eskimos’ running back Jesse Lumsden will be pushing Lueders’ sled in the two-man and four-man events at the competition
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I was kidding BUT, I did hear that...there have been more than a few Lueder (the most successful slider in Can history) commercials scattered throughout the hockey games
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
I always thought Lumsdem would end up in the NFL...is was very highly touted when he played for Hamilton
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
you but he played ball at McMaster
No one from the NFL scouting ranks goes looking there
like everyone he is too small.
I think he got signed by a NFL club and released in spring training. Im no expert
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
by Bigger Zino on Jan 22, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Mac, question...
How does Canadian healthcare work? For instance, If you are injured or sick, what is the process you go thru to see a doctor, you need surgery and so on. And also how are you billed or aren’t you? No idea how it works up there.
Calu
You call and make an appointment or just go in and wait
If you need surgery and you can wait you go on a waiting list if it’s found to be a emergency surgery right away you jump to the front of the bus. My wife had a swollen disk in that was causing pain and in three months she was in for surgery. It’s really not sll that different except everybody gets treated the same and everybody has the same options but usually doctors offices are located in many areas of the city so 99% of that doctors patients are from the same area.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
in Ontario many things are covered under OHIP
this is it in a nutshell for Ontario but all provinces are a little differnet
Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP)
A resident of Ontario must have a health card to show that he or she is entitled to health care services paid for by OHIP. The Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care pays for a wide range of services, however, it does not pay for services that are not medically necessary, such as cosmetic surgery.
Most of your Ontario health benefits are covered across Canada. The province or territory you are visiting will usually bill the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care directly for hospital and physician services. In Quebec, you may have to pay for physician services and then submit your receipt to your local ministry office for payment.
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
so basically after reading that you have 3 options
1. Go to the hospital if you don’t have a family doc
2. Go to a “walk-in” clinic which are usually open 24hrs. They can help immediately sometimes but will also give perscriptions or referals.
3. Go to your family doc who can pretty much do wahtever you need.
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
by McArthur... on Jan 22, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
we pay a little extra in taxes
But its well worth it.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
a little is right...I don't even notice...that comes off our income tax right jay?
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
The difference
Well, we wouldn’t have to wait 3 months for surgery unless your surgeon just happens to be particularly busy but it certainly wouldn’t be free. It could cost you anywhere from $150- a few thousand dollars depending on your health insurance plan.
Calu
Mac
It comes out of your all taxes. And the amount is laughable. We’ve always paid it, so we don’t notice it. These guys would notice it, but the next generation of Americans wouldn’t notice it, because they would have always paid for it. I’m sure Canadians that were alive when it started didn’t like the idea either, that’s why Douglas had a rough go at starting it too.
Calu: we only wait for elective surgeries. Things that aren’t effecting your day-to-day life. If you need something(I had to have a gall stone removed last year) it is done the same day.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
It is brother
Who would mind paying a couple extra bucks a week for that sort of peace of mind?
It’s the only way I’ve ever known, so I can’t say which is better. But I love our way and see no reason to complain.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
and it'll stay like that as long as we keep voting for a gov't that keeps a handle on immigration in turn keeping our population within reason
thats one of the reasons I love winter…keeps the immigrants, leeches, and weaklings away
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Keeps the pansies out, that's for sure.
I’m getting old too, I can’t take this cold any more. Now I know why our elderly retire in Florida.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
ya but we've been REAL lucky this year....other than -25 for a couple weeks there its been a cake walk...no shovelling anyways
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Relocate to Canada
If I wanted to relocate there, is it a long process? I used to go to Ontario a lot years ago in my teens. But, I’ve actually looked at the job market there and it looks good. Although, it’s easy to find strength & conditioning jobs here too. I don’t know if I could handle the cold though. Also, what’s a house cost in Canada?
Calu
I haven't relocated from another country into Canada, so I'm no help there, sorry
Housing costs are all relative, depends on what you want and where you want it. $145,000 will get you what you need(outside Toronto).
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
yep...bout the same here in SW Ontario...drive north for a couple hours though and things change real quick
Fedor was originally cast as the main character in 24, but was replaced by the producers when he managed to kill every terrorist and save the day in 12 minutes and 37 seconds
I can tell you that in Chicago the "walk-in" clinic would have people lining out the door for days on end. And believe me, most big city Americans are not very nice people...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I mean if I have a cold or the flu I make an appointment with my doctor. I’m usually in and out in less than an hour.
I had to have my appendix removed once. I didn’t know what was wrong and my doctor jumped me to the front of the line, once he realized what was wrong he called an ambulance and had be brought to the hospital. Once I got to the hospital I was on an operating table in 20 minutes.
I think most of the waiting comes in after hours. I’ve been there when you have a bad flu but you go to the hospital emergency late at night after doctor’s offices have closed. In a case like that, you’re probably going to wait because it isn’t REALLY an emergency.
There’s been a lot of debate over this in the last few days and my thoughts are this:
1. I personally am happy with my health care being in Canada and don’t care if anyone thinks it’s no good because it has always been excellent for me. I can’t imagine how much my appendix surgery would have costed.
2. Most Canadians on this site are getting P/O’d at Lesnar’s comments because he referred to our healthcare system as 3rd world. I mean if GSP ever said something like that about U.S. healthcare with his accent he’d get torn to shreds.
I didn't realize...
that so many people tagged on to Puck Head’s explanation. I was tagging on to that.
Jesse Lumsdem has no heart!
He’s a lot about himself and is nothing more then injury proned!
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
oh i know
I live in Victoria, it’s going to be bad enough here without me taking a trip off the island.
Also, our Healthcare is great, it is harder for us to get Oxy up here, because our all our Dr’s can see our histories, so you can’t scam a bunch of free meds up here like you can down in Florida and other places, so I guess if you like scamming for oxy’s and benzo’s universal health care is bad.
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
I'm sick of reading about Brock already
is this what it’ll be like from now on?
"OH GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING! HE BROKE HIS FREAKIN' ARM"
"hey man that's the business, we're not figure skating"
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Jan 22, 2010 10:31 AM EST reply actions
DAMMIT!
I tried sooo hard not to express an opinion.
That was a really dumb thing to say, not that Brock gives a sh*t I’m sure.
I’ve never been to a canadian hospital, but I’m guessing Brock has never been to a third world country… The guy talks out of his backside half the time and then wonders why so many people give him a hard time.
It’s really hard not to hate Brock when he runs his mouth and talks sh*t.
"OH GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING! HE BROKE HIS FREAKIN' ARM"
"hey man that's the business, we're not figure skating"
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Jan 22, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
It is Subjective..
I’m Canadian. My health care is free where I live. I want for nearly nothing and am happy to know I am covered in case of emergency.
It seems to me Brock is a very well to do athlete who likely can afford whatever care he needs when he needs it. Can your average American citizen lay claim to the same?
Perhaps Brock was not used to being no more important than the guy next to him with the sucking chest wound from an angry beaver even though Brock earns more in a weekend digging change out of his couch then that guy does per year. Who knows ;)
Call it third world if you want Brock, but I for one am quite happy me and my family aren’t forced to re-mortgage our house anytime someone does something worse than stubbing a toe and I can see a doctor anytime I need to.
Who cares what Brock thinks?
I don’t buy PPVs he’s on because of his views. It was just him being a back-country republican. They don’t understand the politics and they don’t care to. They just carry the banner.
'It is what it is.' = worst saying ever
Yes, but it does apply in Brock's case.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
lol @ canadians catching feelings over brock lesnar
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Who watches Brock for his point of views? MMA fans watch Brock because he's good at MMA
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
I hate Brock
for the way he conducts himself. lacks class of any kind. You can force an apology afterwards or whatever but the damage is done, Trash talking and media attention are not what the sport is about, but because of his profile and who he is, people see what he does and draw conclusions.
That’s why I hate Brock.
"OH GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING! HE BROKE HIS FREAKIN' ARM"
"hey man that's the business, we're not figure skating"
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Jan 22, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Thats harsh even for Brock
He might not be the most politically correct fighter even in MMA but c’mon what has he really done? The media has made him out to be this villain and many have fallen for the hype. How many of you listened to the shit Mir said about him before the fight? I guess thats OK he’s cutting down a villian for hype? In the end the media really influences a lot of peaples judgement on others.
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
Puck Head
If you think I’m the kind of guy that forms my opinions based on Hype then you’re mis informed.
UFC 100 was HUGE for the sport arguably the biggest MMA showcase ever!. And Brock Lesnar, the newly crowned HW champ and main event headliner, disgraced himself and lowered the tone of the whole thing. Pretty hard to forget that, it wasn’t hype Puck Head, it’s what happened. He hasn’t really made much of an effort to redeem himself since then either.
"OH GOD THAT'S DISGUSTING! HE BROKE HIS FREAKIN' ARM"
"hey man that's the business, we're not figure skating"
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP. Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Jan 22, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
yeah but was it really that bad
Mir was talking just as much sh^t before the fight and regardless if it was to hype the fight are not it was at brocks personal expense and Brock is not the type of man that will let others run their mouth at his expense and I’m glad someone finally made these fuckers eat their words. The bud light thing as a fan big deal for the UFC and himself big mistake LOL, And then last but not least getting on his wife F’n rights he is. I’ve heard much worse through boxing, football, basketball….yet some like Jones Jr talks sh^t after it’s ok but when brock does he’s an ass?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
I agree with fat kick...
Has there been worse said? Yes but it doesn’t mean we should just say “Oh well it’s not the worst thing ever said” It was sad and pathetic and basically showed him as a little high school girl crying out for attention.
The guy is a machine you cant deny that and I don’t see anyone beating him for a long time and I dont deny his skills in fighting. However the fact remains I know a LOT of people feel the way I do and don’t like seeing the champion act like that and have zero class. Not even saying what Mir said leading up to it was better but in victory or defeat as champion TRY and have a LITTLE class.
Like I said that night of UFC 100… You can take the boy out of the WWE but you can’t take the WWE out of the boy.
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
If your going to judge a fighter by what they say rather than there talents for what they do
Doesn’t that make you more of WWE type fan?
"He broke tim sylvia’s arm…...So what?" – Brock Lesnar
Did you read what I wrote?
I am judging him on BOTH. Argue all you want but most people I think will agree that when your champ you should maybe step up and try and have a LITTLE class.
He is the man, everyone knows it including himself and no one is denying that but he is basically an over-glorified country bumpkin. The minute I see he has grown EVEN a tiny bit to have a little bit of class I will be a fan.
In reality I don’t see it happening though.
I think people are truly blinded by their man-crushes on him.
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Brock SMASH!!!! Arrrgh!!!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I just found it funny
I was more annoyed with Mir talking shit then whining when Brock talked some shit back. Brock maybe a wild man and pretty dumb but at least he’s not a hypocrite.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
I watch MMA to see fights
I don’t pick favorite fighters based on their mic skills, that’s what WWF is for.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
None of the guys I like can cut a good promo
GSP and Cote don’t speak my language, Brock is a country bumpkin-that’s why he sounds like one, and Mousasi is to nice to trash talk.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Did you ever see KIMO vs BAM BAM?
It was in ‘96, Bam got smashed, Kimo was holding the cage like his life depended on it, but my point is you should see Bam Bam’s pre fight interview. He was talking like it was a WWF interview, it looked terrible, cringe worthy!
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
I don't buy DVD's of old fights I watched live
So, I’m not very good at facts like that. Plus my memory is the worst.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I admit to it
I watch and follow MMA because I love watching fights and train a bit myself BUT, other than my fellow Canadians, I choose my favs based on that same WWE stlye mic skills etc.
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
I think most people would fit in that catagory Mc.
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
yep...and imo that is what has grown the sport...a happy medium between sport and entertainment
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Agreed
You need to have charismatic figures to promote the fights and genuinely talented fighters that put on entertaining fights. Talent comes before promo skills to me but I do appreciate entertaining interviews and entrances.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
That's why I don't understand the bashing of Sexyama and Mayhem
I thought the dance by Mayhem into the cage was funny as fuck.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Never seen that fight mate
I can imagine how bad it was though, Bam Bam never was good at wrestling promos never mind an unscripted pre-fight interview.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Poor guy dead now anyway, drug overdose and bad heart not a good combo!!
And only 45 years old. Shame.
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
It's tragic how many pro wrestlers have died at an early age
So many wrestlers from Bam Bam’s era are dead or have drug addictions today. It’s disgraceful that nobody’s done anything about it.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
I know where you're coming from.
I feel the same way about Dana White.I don’t feel he is a good representative for the sport. BUT, I can’t help but recognize how much he’s done for the sport of mma. In the same way I don’t care for everything that Brock does, BUT, I like the way he gets the job done in the cage! Plus He is a phenom! Give this guy 2 more years and he will be unbelievable!
Calu
I guess this proves he was not faking injury or Dana was not lying about Brock’s status… Did I just make a relevant post without talking about health care?
by TapedUpPair on Jan 22, 2010 11:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think Robin Williams said it best...
“Canada is like a loft over a really great party”
“Keep it down eh!!!”
Simmer down I am kidding lol
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
I take it that you are not a Rashad fan (by looking at your avatar pic), Irish...hahahaha!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
HAHA I don't mind the guy...
But the pic is just PRICELESS. That is the definition of KTFO lol.
But yea not a huge fan ;o)
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
I find this pic disturbing imho.....
And i love seeing a ko but something about that avatar is freaky and a little disturbing.
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
What's the matter with the thread, guys?
Brock’s back, slammed Canada health and now the answer , what’s is new.
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
CANADIAN HEALTH CARE
Hey I am from Canada Who cares if he slams Canada health care? Brock is who he is and he is a patriot, he loves the US what is wrong with that, The fact that he was in the middle of nowhere when this happened, he was prob. right it was insufficient. Canadian Health care is pretty much free so I will never complain. But anyone is entitled to their opinion and we know Brock has many. Our beer is better though for sure, LOL
Can't beat Irish beer
I love guinness almost as much as they do haha. English bitter is almost as good, Tetleys and John Smiths are both nice smooth drinks. Never been a fan of lager, though funnily enough I like Bud and the light beers are good if I want to drink something quickly at a club.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
David one word: Pilsner
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 22, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
You got that right, what a funny show!!
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
He is right on the health care there it sucks! Took my aunt 7 months to see a doctor 4 her heart. then died 3days before she was to see him.
canadian health care is arguably the best in the world...ever break a bone in the states? $$$
But you do have to be a canadian citizen to get free and immediate health care…I have a hard time believing your aunt couldnt see a doctor for over half a year then died 3 days prior? I call bs….im a paramedic in alberta, And if someones is brought into the emergency room with a heart condition,they are not able to leave by law untill cleared by a doctor…..And ofcourse a millionair like lesner will go to the mayo clinic….Pretty much any clinic in comparison to the mayo clinic is less advanced and way less funded….
I thought the aunt story sounded bogus
But if he says its true, I believe him
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I call bs as well
Serious heart conditions don’t wait.
Made up anecdotal stories are the only things your hear negative about Canadian healthcare
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
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