UFC Quick Quote: Patrick Cote ready to rematch Anderson Silva and become world champion
by Jesse Holland on Jan 21, 2010 12:58 PM EST
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"If I fight (Anderson Silva) again I think I am going to do the same thing, I think I learned that if you’re not scared of him right away you have a good chance to win and that’s what I did. I was there in the first second of the fight, I took the center of the Octagon and I showed him I wasn’t scared of him. This guy is not a machine; he is a human like me and you, so you have to believe in yourself. The worst part of fighting Anderson Silva is that it’s so hard finding training partners like him, nobody moves like him and nobody fights like him. So if I fight him again the surprise aspect of how he moves and how he fights is not going to be a surprise anymore, I know him and how it feels to be in the same Octagon with him, so that is going to be a huge advantage for me. I want big fights all the time. I don’t do this sport to be number 2, to be second, I want to be world champion -- I think I have the ability to be world champion."
Patrick Cote talks about getting back into the middleweight mix when he faces Alan Belcher at UFC 113 in Montreal. "The Predator" has not competed since since shredding his knee while inside the Octagon opposite reigning division champion Anderson Silva at UFC 90 way back in October 2008. The bout resulted in a technical knockout loss for the Canadian, which he feels may have gone his way if the freak accident never happened. The 185-pound class is now teeming with possible title contenders, making his road back to the summit more than likely a long and difficult one. He wants a rematch with "The Spider" but has to get past "The Talent" first. What are his chances?
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He didn't land anything on Silva...
So yeah, he’ll do the same thing except Silva would toy with him this time like he did the 1st time. Cote is a d-bag who really thinks he gave a good fight.
"If I fight (Anderson Silva) again I think I am going to do the same thing"
As in falling to the ground, screaming, holding his knee and waiting for the ref to save him when the pummeling starts.
by O damn he got caught on Jan 21, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No as in do nothing for two rounds than act like making it to Round 3 is the biggest accomplishment in the world.
by CrowCrucifix on Jan 21, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
As I recall....
Silva nearly served him via 1980’s street dancing…
"I’m a very unique fighter. If there were two of me, I’d be unnecessary." – Sam Morgan
come on man give him some credit
it was a brutal boring fight, but cote took some serious shots from Anderson and didnt flinch. look at how forrest reacted to getting hit by anderson. dropped in a heart beat. cote has a serious chin and the heart of a warrior
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
I'm not saying Cote doesn't have a good chin or heart...
It just seemed like he just rode out the rounds, content to let Silva dance around and throw pot-shots at him. He never really mounted any type of offense.
"I’m a very unique fighter. If there were two of me, I’d be unnecessary." – Sam Morgan
Guys do what they can to win.
Who would be dumb enough to go all in against what is in my opinion the very best counter stiker in MMA History (among other things)? Cote was smarter than Griffin in that regard but he was no Letes either. He faced him. Would you have more respect for Cote today had he pulled a Griffin that night? Not me.
Agreed
Cote did nothing but survive that fight and judging by his reactions that was what he was aiming for. That fight would have gone to a decision as Andy isn’t stupid enough to get wreckless against a guy with the punching power and rock hard chin of Cote whilst Patrick never does anything in big fights, look at how boring the Smith and Almeida fights were as proof of that.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Before that
He was doing fine. Spider didn’t hurt him with anything and he wasn’t the one stepping backwards(contrary to what David will have you believe lol). Cote is back boys!
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Yea, but did he have any success?
No! Cote did nothing the whole fight. He was totally scared of Silva regardless of what he says. He did nothing to attack and as a result Silva was content to stand on the outside and pick his shots. Granted Silva did very little, but Cote wasn’t in the fight for a second.
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
He wasn't winning-I agree
But he didn’t run away. He always walked forward. He just isn’t good enough to stand with AS, no shame in that.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
the size difference was significant, Cote is actually one of the better boxer’s AS has fought in the UFC if not the best, he moves well and doesn’t leave any big openings like say Forrest G. would be cool to see Cote vs Karaev they have the same style (even though Ruslan would knock him out since he’s much bigger and ofc better)
fresh like uhh.
No one knocks Cote out
Nobody!
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
you heard the man...NOBODY!!! Atta boy Patty!! See ya in May!
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Sorry for the highjack but is the event CONFIRMED for 05/08/2010?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
well, nobody has the ability to hit him right in the UFC so that’s why i came in with Cote’s brother Ruslan from K-1 as a fun example.
fresh like uhh.
I know what you mean
But until someone does it, it can’t be done. He has been hit with tons of good shots. It doesn’t do anything to him….The man is the closest thing to invincibility. LOL
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I watched Silva/Newton last friday on spike's new pride show
Andy took a good beating on the ground via GnP, and like jay said, it seemed to have little to no effect on him
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
I watched the replay of it last night...
I was rather suprised how well he took shots. That Anderson is so different then the current AS. He was pretty falt footed in the begining of the fight and even when he got back to his feet. That really loose dodging and weaving AS was not their at all.
I think Anderson could take that fight to the ground and easily submit Cote. Lutter and Doerksen submitted him. While he may not be on Lutter level of BJJ, with all the ADCC and Pan Am credentials, I think he could catch Cote on the ground.
Why did the give Anderson the yellow card, when Newton was the one just sitting in his guard not advancing or doing anything to improve his position
Take a good look at that picture
What do you see in Cote’s face? FEAR.
"I'm winning this fight cause who's going to lose a street fight to a french canadian?" - Matt Hughes (famous last words)
by O damn he got caught on Jan 21, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Ya there is no shame in that
Because nobody is good enough to stand with Silva.
COTE COTE COTE
COOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEE
2010 will be Patricks year… Belcher is a great fight to come back to and then get to the Spider.
Would love to see a tito rematch even at 205 with Cote coming in a little light.
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belcher isnt a gimme...
not after a long time out.gotta respect cote for taking the fight.incidently who would win out of best chin match between hendo and cote lol
Belcher isn't a gimme
But Belcher folds to good shots. The only thing Belcher can do to stop this fight is a sub. I don’t think that is what Belcher will plan on doing. Belcher might win a decision, but I think Cote will catch him some time in that 15 minutes. Cote is fighting in Montreal for the first time(in the UFC). That adrenaline will be enough to cancel out the rust. If I’m wrong you guys can make my sig and pic whatever you want for one month.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Belcher is 0-1 in Montreal
Remember at 83 when he fought Jason Day and leaned against the cage covering up while Day threw bombs at him over and over until he crumpled…I see the same thing happening again.
"You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea."
by Buster Bluth on Jan 21, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
Belcher is weak. Cote is going to truck him.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
wouldnt say belcher is weak..
maybe incosistent but imo,and most peoples,hes 3-0 in his last 3 against sexyama,willy g and kang.not bad! its a 50-50 with the layoff.
Sexyama won split decision
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 21, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Sexyama deserved the W, despite Rogan declaring that Belcher had the fight won in the middle of the second round.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
very true...if I ever meet Rogan I'm gonna ask him...I don't always agree with his Nut Huggery but saying Belch was robbed there was waaaaay off base
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
First two rounds Allan got knocked around taken down clearly beaten i dont even think it deserved a split decision
Don't think feel
by bigbadbunbun on Jan 21, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Joe's been known to smoke a joint or 2 before PPV's
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
he wasnt cleary beaten in the first round
I saw the fight the other day and the first round was very even with both fighters landing bombs could of went ether way but i gave it to belcher because he got the knockdown
Sexyama got 2 knockdowns
Only difference was that the UFC didn’t bother replaying either of them and just focused on the one that Belcher got.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Mac... Time for a new poll
Who’s nuts does Rogan hug the most?
"I’m a very unique fighter. If there were two of me, I’d be unnecessary." – Sam Morgan
my comp never allows me to do polls for some reason...very weird actually...Alpha and Zino do a good job that them though
i know that Randy will be getting my vote
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
it should be whose balls are MIR on the most
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"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
That man is my hero!
Agree Mac, Randy’s was the first name I thought of there.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
thanks you...
Rogan usually just picks his favor fighter during the introductions, then hypes them up for the entire fight, often, disregarding all positive actions of their opponents.
"I’m a very unique fighter. If there were two of me, I’d be unnecessary." – Sam Morgan
agreed and I can usually turn a blind eye...that Belcher call he made was rediculous
as is his sentiment regarding “his hero” Couture
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
BLASPHEMY!
Randy; hallowed be thy name.
"I'm winning this fight cause who's going to lose a street fight to a french canadian?" - Matt Hughes (famous last words)
by O damn he got caught on Jan 21, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
anderson was winning
spider hit him with some shots that would have dropped most fighters, cote has a good chin, but has no chance at beating anderson.
Agree 100%
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Jay, Cote did nothing that fight
He never engages in big fights, he did nothing against Smith or Almeida and scraped boring decision wins against them. He has a lot of heart and the hardest chin in MMA but he didn’t do anything to trouble Andy and was content to survive. The fact that he injured himself proves to me how woefully out of his depth the guy was. Belcher will beat Cote anyway so any talk of a rematch with Andy is irrelevant at this point.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
That was Leites
Cote was hanging in there. He won’t win but he wasn’t scared of Silva and that makes for a good fight no matter how short it may be.
The one and only Smitty...
Nah
Cote tore his ACL in the 3rd, hit the ground and the ref stepped in to call it a “TKO”; Leites is the one that just flopped to his back for 3 out of 5 rounds.
by O damn he got caught on Jan 21, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
OD, that was fucking funny.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
This pic says it all about AS.
He looks so relaxed, almost in slow motion, and Cote swinging, hoping for the best!
Seeing Andy fight is like watching Peter Parker in the school hall fighting that bully!
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
Besides...
185 has a couple decent prospects for contenders; Marquardt, Belfort and Wanderlei (assuming he can get by Bisping and then get 2 more wins); all better challengers for Silva than Cote IMO. PPV buys says all 3 of those guys get a shot before Cote gets a rematch. And yea yea; before ppl start ragging on Wandy, I know I know, but if he beats Bisping and doesn’t have to rematch Belfort or fight Marquardt he could probably rack up two more wins against someone like Akiyama, Sonnen, Okami or Palhares to justify the title shot.
by O damn he got caught on Jan 21, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions
He had his shot and Silva didn't do anything
Is what you mean. Pat tried but couldn’t catch him. It’s not like he was the one avoiding Silva.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I rather see Anderson fight people at 205 then fight a guy that hasnt even fought in over a year coming off multiple knee surgeries that didnt put on a good fight in the first match
Yes patrick showed off his chin witch he always does, but what else did he do?
Exactly
Jay I like you and I agree with most of your posts but your hatred for Andy and love of Cote is clouding your judgement on this one. All Cote had to offer was a lot of heart and a great chin, that’s not enough for a title fight. He couldn’t land anything and Silva was picking him apart whilst goofing around to entertain himself.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Cote was holding his own against the spider!
Silva was dancing around like michael jackson! Did any1 see the spider after he KO’d carlos newton? it was hilarious he dressed up like the billie jean video & started doing the moonwalk!
He was the one trying to make a fight out of that dance off
I don’t care what anyone says. Spider was the one avoiding Cote in that fight.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Spider was shucking and jiving like Ali. Cote was not scared of him. BUT Spider was not avoiding Cote. That is his style, and to Cote's credit, Silva did not take a risk due to Cote's power.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agreed
Silva was on the hunt and I think he could have finished it late 3rd or early 4th. Cote has got power and Silva was not underestimating him.
Agree
with both you dudes. Silva was smart to avoid the power. Cote isn’t in Silva’s league, but he wasn’t a pussy against perhaps the best fighter alive. Gotta respect the guys’ hands, chin and heart.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Number 2?
Seriously? Number 2??? Who said you were number 2 dude? You’re not on ANYONES top 10 list! Go get a clue…
This guy is 4-5 in the UFC. The worse number 1 contender ever and he’s talking a rematch!
by Zlatan, My Hero on Jan 21, 2010 1:29 PM EST reply actions
Top 10
Silva
Marquardt
Henderson
Belfort
Sheilds
Bisping
Sonnen
Jacare
Wanderlei
I wouldnt even put all those ahead of him… he IS Top 10
by PHISH NATION on Jan 21, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Only Bisping and Sonnen do not belong ahead of Cote. Based on activity and level of opposition I would place the others ahead of him.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You think Shields would beat Cote?
I agree that Cote can’t be ranked very highly yet, because of the inactivity. But Shields, Bisping ahead of Cote? NEVER. You’ll witness and testify to the awesomeness of Cote, come May 8th, you’ll believe.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Sing it brotha!
Amen to that!
"You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea."
by Buster Bluth on Jan 21, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
LOL. I think Shields would beat Cote the same way he beat Mayhem.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
if only there were 20 seconds left in round 3 or 4 (can't remember)...Shields would be sleepin' and Mayhem would be champ
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Cannot disagree but I don't see Cote having that type of GG.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
maybe if he's on top but if he's on bottom it'll be over quick lke you say
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
No, never!
First of all… he had 4 straight losses in the UFC. Really wierd that he didnt get cut! Second: look at the guys he lost to, Doerksen, Leben and Lutter. Im not counting Ortiz cause it was at 205 and on short notice. He’s ground game is terrible and he will continue to loose to ANYBODY with BJJ skills AND just a little bit of wrestling (unlike Almeida). I truly honestly from the bottom of my heart hate Shields but yeah, he would not only win against Cote but also finish him with a sub. Third. Look att the wins on his records: He was handfed strikers just for the entertainment value after his losses. Scott smith,grove and mcfedries? and then almeida = nr 1 contender and nr 2 in his mind and nr 6-7 on your 185p list? third: Akiyama, Maia, Okami??? And Palhares would get him to the ground and OWN him (even though he’s not a top 15 in my book either). I dont get his hype, at all. I dont write so often here, but the Cote thing really pisses me off. People bash on Kongo and Guillard for being 1 dimensional strikers. But Cote is 1 dimenstional and not even good at that!?! Over & out…
by Zlatan, My Hero on Jan 21, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
btw
i meant he’s not top 10 in he UFC haha
It would take a while to count backwards and try to fit in poor Cote somewhere if I was to count all MW in all organizations! :p
by Zlatan, My Hero on Jan 21, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
You've seen him get subbed? Or handled by average wrestlers?
Your opinion has been proven wrong every time he fights. He didn’t lose to Leben either.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
What do you mean by that?
I’ve seen him get subbed 2 times in the UFC?!
by Zlatan, My Hero on Jan 21, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I only remember Lutter who was the other one?
That was 5 years ago and Lutter is a lot better on the ground than most of the guys Cote will be fighting. I forgot about the Lutter one, sorry you were right.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Doerksen subbed him too...
And also his wins over McFedries and Almeida are both kind of tarnished. McFedries mother was murdered very close to that fight! He didnt train for the fight, wasnt in the cage mentallt and just gave up! he said in a an interview that he wouldnt have taken the fight if he didnt really need the money) and Almeida was coming off a long lay-off and gassed badly!
I never bash fighters, but Cote is just an average striker who got his title for the wrong reasons and gets to act all tough and “couldve shouldve wouldve” cause he blew his knee against Silva. And people buy in to that and believe the hype… that seems to be all that people remember. Unfinished business BS. Silva was bored the first time, dont need to make a sequal!
by Zlatan, My Hero on Jan 21, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
I didn’t know any of that about MacFedries. I don’t think the outcome would have been any different. I see what you are getting at. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens to Cote from here on out. Good educated point of view though, Zlatan. Much better than the usual bashing of Cote, much.
I don’t mind a good point of view like yours, I will still stand behind Cote no matter what though. I know he’ll never be the UFC champ, but he is a good fighter. Tough as nails and impossible to KO. Plus one hell of a human being.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Was Doerkson sub in the UFC?
I am at work, so I can’t look it up. It must have been a long time ago too, because I don’t think I remember that fight.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
nice! i was just about to post that. Cote would beat Shields and it would be more decisive than his win over Almeida was.
fresh like uhh.
Sheilds
he should be a WW, f he came to the UFC, he would fight at 170… no way he competes with the best at 185
by PHISH NATION on Jan 21, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
apparently he can if he's going to fighting Hendo who was "the" #2 MW in the UFC
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
That doesnt mean he can hang with Hendo
Dan will destroy Sheilds
by PHISH NATION on Jan 21, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think that's what everyone is saying
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
haha
I said he cant compete with the best at 185 and you said he could. Just because he is possible scheduled to fight one of the best, doesnt mean he has a chance to consistently be top 5 in the MW division
by PHISH NATION on Jan 21, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think Mac meant, he is going to get to compete against a top 5
He knows Shields is going to get murdered. He just meant he is going to get a chance to compete.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I said apparently he can...meaning that he thinks he can, not me
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
right jay
he literally can compete, but realistically can’t win
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
I just got a headache reading this sequence...LOL
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
sarcasm's a bitch on paper isn't it
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
i started and gave up
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
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Yeah, sarcasm doesnt "read" well
As long as we all agree Shields sucks and will get killed by Hendo, we are all good, haha
by PHISH NATION on Jan 21, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
here here
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
Shields does not suck BUT Hendo will beat him badly.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
shields sucks...
Im a hater… so what
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
Ha!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
shields can fight at 185
Hendo even said Sheilds is bigger then him.
Shields would most likely lay on Cote for the W
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by SweetsugarShaw on Jan 21, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I’m loving the love for Cote jay. He’s just an awesome guy, with hands of stone, a chin of diamond and a cool-ass accent. He was also a military boy, so you have to respect that.
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Nothing but love
Ever since the first time I’ve seen him. He’s my favorite MW and is listed as such.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Silva
Hendo
Nate
Belfort
Franklin
Maia
Shields
Jacarce
Sonnen
Okami
Up next imo would be cote then bispiing
I wouldn’t throw wand in yet he hasn’t won at mw
by Phenomenal Angel on Jan 21, 2010 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
as do i
I still say Jacare and Shields will end up back at WW in SF and are not firm MW at this time. Especially with Hendo winning the MW title.
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
I doubt jake will move back if Nick beats marius...
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Wow. You guys are def fans on this one.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
scotts is good too at bottom of page
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
I think he is at 205. I would put him ahead of Cote as well if he stayed at 185.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Maybe this guy should worry about rematching chris leben
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Zlatan and clover
are you clows completely new?
IMO he beat Leben and lost the Decision because the UFC was pushing TUF product at the time. That is not even debatle… watch the fight.
And he could QUICKLY re enter top 10 in MW with one good win over someone who is.
"He wants to get in close and use that reach advantage" - Mike Goldberg
"Half of this game is 90% Mental" - Tim Sylvia
"I have two words for you... Destiny" - Diego Sanchez.
Anyone interested in a dumbest MMA quote of all time poll?
Agree
That Leben decision was a rip. I was thinking of responding to these two dudes. No point really. Bringing up Chris Leben cinched it for me.
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I actually like Leben, the fatherless bastard!!
That was a good scene, Kos and that other douche trying to wet Leben with the hose if my memory serves me correctly, classic tuf!
Tito Ortiz: I think Chuck's lost a step, maybe i've lost a step also, but that's what makes the fight so exciting!
Classic moment
Bobby Southworth with the worst apology I’ve ever seen, drunk Kos and Bobby bullying Leben (and drunk Diego) then the hose then the Leben rampage. Shame that the Kos-Leben fight was so poor.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Re-enter top 10, eh?
I guess thats what happens when you put a hurtin on drew mcfedries.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jan 21, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
He is already top 10
Scroll up, we covered this… name 10 MW’s better than Cote
by PHISH NATION on Jan 21, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Sonnen??? No way Bisping?? No way
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Agreed
Cote is top 10… a couple wins away from a title shot. Give him Vitor after he loses to Silva
by PHISH NATION on Jan 21, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry but Cote ain't top 10. I will give you top 15-20...
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maybe with the layoff...
but if/when he beats Belcher… where is he then?
near the top 5
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He beats Belcher...11-14.
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You cant just make that kind of statement… name the top 10 or 15 ahead of him… YOU CANT!!
by PHISH NATION on Jan 21, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
hes not serious... just being difficult
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No, my friend. YOU cannot make the statement that he is in the top 10. I am not a Cote hater but it would be biased to put him in the top 10. Its ok. I understand that you are a huge fan. Its all good.
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you are serious?
I dont’ see him in top 10 today… the MW div has moved on in his absence… but he with a win over a guy like Belcher he is miles ahead of Bizzy/Chael/Wand
He beats Alan the Talent and he is firmly back in the top 10.
It’s a scientific fact!
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Cote's my fav. canadian fighter
and i agree with OJR. He isn’t a top 10 fighter yet. His inactivity pulls him off the list completely. I agree theres a bunch of fighters on the list I feel he could beat but without being competitive throughout the last year u cant have him on it.
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ppwwpp - Only objective Canadian so far...oh well. :)
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hey i said...
I dont’ see him in top 10 today… the MW div has moved on in his absence
…
i think he has to break back in, but i also think he has the tools and right attitude to do it.
Sure i’m a fan of my fellow countrymen but just because he happens to be another Canadian you can’t discredit the fact that he’s also a quality guy and pretty focking good fighter.
I like Tim Credeur the exact same way.
Tim’s tough but I think Cote would drop him easily.
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Silva
Marquardt
Henderson
Belfort
Shields
Jacare
Wanderlei
Akiyama
Maia
Hamill
Okami
Goran
Franklin (if he goes back to 185)
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In no particular order, in fact, Phish did most of the work for me...talk about irony.
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and belfort shoudnt be ranked yet
and Wand isn’t listed yet either
Shields and Jacare will fight at WW I bet in SF when Dan holds the title.
Your list will fall apart bro..
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Ok, my bad on Hamill. Scratch him. Its not about fighters shifting between weight classes but Cote does not climb up without fighting his way back on. Sorry. I don't give freebies.
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even better...but replace sexy with sonnen and add cote at 10 and you've nailed it
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-Ken Shamrock
Not even close! I am surprised at you, Mac. LOL. No objectivity at all.
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why is WAND in the rankings
love the guy but he hasnt faught at MW yet..
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I'm not as tough as you guys I guess...Wand is at 185 now and hasn't fought I know...but its Wand!!!!!
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You want Belcher in the Montreal fight against the predator.
Small beer bet for the trip?
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Nope. If I thought Belcher was better I would have had him on my list...
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Do you really think Cote is better than Wand at 185?!
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today yes.
Wand has been losing a lot. I love the guy as much as anyone but come on – he needs a win in the worst way.
Cote is coming back… there is an argument for both.
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BZ, Wand has lost to Rampage, Chuck, Cro Cop, Hendo and a BS decision to a timid Franklin. That is a list of killers and a very good Ace. Cote has NOT faced that kind of quality opponent except for Spider and that was due to an injury.
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this is true
and after all those KO’s is one reason why I think Patrick has him.
BIG Power that Wand can’t handle anymore. Just circumstance
If they faught in Japan I would lean toward Wand
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got a meeting - be back in 90mins
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Cote was a top 10 prior to him going down, but imo. he was just starting to break into the top 10. He hasn’t exactly beaten anyone worthy of him joining the top 10 honestly. With a win over Belchar, I might consider him for #10, it would depend on how impressive he wins.
OJR : No Sonnen on your list? He had a huge win over Okami and you’ve got Yushin up there.
I LOVE WANDI, but he too hasn’t done anything at 185 worthy of him being top 10, a win over bisping might get him into the UFC top 10 MW, but lets face it Wandi isn’t the same Wandi (in his head he’s still the axe murderer), we all know if life everyone slows down, especially with Wanis style.
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I don't do MMA Math. Thats why I have Okami. Sonnen would not give Cote a problem but I think Okami would give Cote fits. Just a match up prob for Cote, I think.
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Also, I think people are really looking past Wand. If he was losing to mid-tier fighters, I would doubt him too, but Cote is not an elite fighter like the monsters I just listed.
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that's true mma math sucks.
I think Sonnen and Cote would be a good fight to see who can hang with the elite. Winner has a chance to be top 10.
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
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After Belcher, I would like Cote to fight Goran. I think Sonnen is a decent win but nothing special.
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incorrect.
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well maybe...
but he as never beaten anyone who “is” and never will!
Im not new. Been on this site for a while. even before the namechange and stuff, just dont write so often. Im in sweden, and the time is completely off. When i wrote a post before i go to sleep, by the time i wake up the next morning the discussions are mostly done and there are new posts to discuss. That dont mean im ignorant or that i agree. I actually kind of disagree with 95% of all post on this site even though i thind you guys are the most educated mma fans ive “met”. i just read and laugh sometimes and sometimes just shake my head and glad i dont live in the us!
by Zlatan, My Hero on Jan 21, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
You disagree with 95% of the posts?
So you disagree with both sides of most discussions?
Nice to meet you, though Zlatan. I know what you mean about the time difference. Most of the posters on this site are from North America. David W-S runs into the same problem as you do a lot of times.
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Yeah, sounds off but i meant it!
Most posters are so biased when it comes to certain fighters or even certain matchups that they cant see things clearly. Even when it comes to my “favourite fighters” and they predict the same outcome as me i disagree, due to their reasons and “facts” and the scenarios they paint.
Nice to meet you too, even though ive read like 1000 of your posts before hehe. my problem is that i do most of my reading and writing at work when you guys are asleep. my freetime/evenings are reserved for other stuff. like friends, xbox, drinking, partying and the ladies :)
by Zlatan, My Hero on Jan 21, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
There isn't an MMA site for guys with your hours?
I would think someone in your hemisphere would be running their own blog site.
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Probabaly, but this site is better than most
Can’t beat the banter on Mania. Besides I’m usually on at random times, depending on when I’m going out or having lectures. I’ve had to go on really late tonight as I’ve been catching up on my work which I should have done ages ago, but usually I can get on at the same time as the North Americans.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Make this fight
It’s been so long that it’s almost easy to forget about Cote vs. Silva. This is one fight that Silva needs to have before he moves to LHW. Unfinished business.
MMMWAAAHHHHAAAHHHAAHHAA
Cote is going to get owned. He’s deluding himself if he thought he was getting anywhere with Silva in the 1st fight.
Also he’s DEFFO not anywhere near the top of the MW tree.
Uh... k
At no point was Cote even close to beating Anderson. Everyone saw that. If he rushed forward, Anderson tagged him. If he tried to get inside, Anderson tagged him. In short, Anderson was dominating just by counter-striking. Pointless rematch imo. Also there’s a fair amount of guys higher ranked than Cote simply because of activity. His absence has definitely caused him to drop out of the top 10 (not his fault).
Agree
But there was people saying Cote was scared to engage. He tried to fight, he just isn’t good enough to beat Silva(no one is).
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Cote had the same gamplan againast Silva, as Rua did against Machida.
Both fights were boring, but both were looking for their openings to make the champ regret coming after them.
Everyone rags on Cote for not going after him more; we he oviously had a seriously damaged knee going into the fight, otherwise it wouldn’t have blown out like that.
Both fights were boring
Say what? I can maybe give you Cote/Silva… but Chida vs Rua… wow.
I couldn’t disagree more.
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machida vs rua was no boring
It was an amazing display of MMA. Great tactical battle, one i personally wait to see again.
cote/silva was def. closer to a boring fight
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Machida-Shogun was anything but boring, just because it was a close technical fight and not a brawl doesn't make it boring
Tough shit if Cote was already injured, if you can’t get healthy for a title fight then you obviously did something wrong in training. I actually don’t mind Cote but I’m not going to give him credit for getting picked apart for 2 rounds and not landing anything then collapsing in a heap on the floor.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Sorry let me rephrase that
Rua vx Machida was a great display of technical striking. Was it a slug fest, or a back and forth battle like what the general public prefer, no.
I for one loved both fights, as neither wanted to fall into the others trap. And when you have strikers that good you have to respect that.
wand locc? WTF... what is with everyone and Wand
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one thing that nobody can ever claim about locc is that he is disloyal to his favs...
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locc
Calls ‘em like he sees ’em. He isn’t a nut hugger of any fighters IMO.
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I wouldn't say that...even locc will admitt to a little swinging from Wand's nuts...not a bad thing though
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agreed
everyone LOVES Wandi, but use your head not your heart. Wandi can still give anyone a go, but what has he even down at 185 in God knows how long to be considered a top 10.
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When he makes Bisping shit his pants
Can he be a top 10? He obviously can’t be on it yet, but he will be soon.
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Bonus points forsure!
Personally, I don’t have Bisping as a top 10 fighter and I feel in order to be a top 10 fighter you need to beat one. Wandi’s special though, he has done a lot, so it would really be debatable on his performance if he’s top 10 or not.
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
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Clown
Doe’s he think people don’t have eyes? I can’t stand this guy and comments like that make me feel even worse. How can he be so arrogant with his record??? People give Bisping way more heat for way less shit! Bisping will be a world champ before this jabroni
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 21, 2010 4:10 PM EST reply actions
Cote would mop the floor with Bisping
This ‘jabroni’ has never been stopped.
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Cote would cut off the ring and make Bisping fight him. Not a good scenario for Bisping.
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Truth!
I had to.
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Hahaha! Patrick Cote, Fuck Yeah!
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Never thought I'd see it..
COTE… FUCK YEAH!
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lol
yeah i will soon – I’ve had that sig for almost too long but been busy.
I’ll crank it out soonish.
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Nationalism blinds
Bisping only been stopped once and has fought similar C and B level competition as Cote (excluding Hendo and Silva respectively) . Cote been beaten by some real cans, at least Bisping can say he’s been beat once and that was by a good fighter!
This clown/‘jabroni’ (yeah, i said it) claims he wants to be World champ and can beat AS but has more chance of waking up with ovaries….
I appreciate he Canadian and so are most of you guys saying how good he is but……
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 21, 2010 4:31 PM EST reply actions
I agree with he won't ever beat AS. He'll never even get the chance to try.
But he is levels above Bisping. Everyone wants to be world champ, I guess this whole sport is filled with clowns.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
No issue with wanting to be a world champ
But in 2010 you need more than a strong chin and a strong punch to be a world champ in the UFC. If you think that those attribute alone give you the ability to be world champ then you are a clown.
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 21, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
He was one punch away from doing that a year ago
He also has good defensive wrestling. Brett Rogers almost won the WAMMA belt with those exact same attributes. I know what you mean though, but it can still be done.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Good comparison
But I still feel the difference is that Rogers pressed that fight (and payed for it ultimately) whereas Cote didn’t really because of Silvas desire to act like Bruce Lee….
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 21, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but Rogers didn't have to chase Fedor
Fedor doesn’t dance.
Are you a fan of Shogun or not? I know it is off topic, but I can’t figure out if you like him or not, with that handle.
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Fedor does dance....Bellydance
In my humble opinion, Shogun is the greatest and most complete MMA fighter the world has seen. I know most would disagree with that but to me he has everything and he’s even better now than he was in Pride because he fights with much more discipline and strategy.
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 21, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm starting to believe again
He always was the best IMO. After the surgeries and losing to Forrest, I thought he might be done. He is making a great recovery. I almost have him back at Pride levels. Maybe even better.
Not many people can argue the awesomeness of Shogun, I would try because I’m not a fan, but it would be a feeble attempt.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
Gas tank
I still feel sick watching the Forrest fight. I still cry tears of laughter at Coleman I & II (for varying reasons!) and I still watch in awe at every other fight. even his early fights in Brazil against the likes of Santos are amazing.
Scary thing is that he’s only just turned 28. If he can keep himself injury free and keep his restored cardio then the LHW belt will be his.
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 21, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
True, he is still young and can dominate 205 for many, many years to come
That’s the beauty of the whole thing.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I remember thinking that Ninja looked better
for a couple of years and surely thought the same thing with regard to Shogun and his medical issues.
but i agree
Shogun is looking very complete. If he can stay healthy which looks pretty certain I think he could beat anyone on any given night. Nobody would be safe.
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Silva is just better
Cote is a tough fighter but I think Silva is on anther level. Cote was doing alright his first fight but I still had Anderson winning. if they fight again Cote would get TKO!!!
KO
They aren’t even in the same league. I can’t believe some people on here are actually talking about Patrick Cote and Anderson Silva as if they are comparable fighters. It’s like comparing Chris Leben, Bisping, Chael Sonnen, Alan Belcher etc etc with AS…..Joke
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 21, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
You might want to re-read this thread
Nobody said Cote is on the same level with Silva. He didn’t run from Silva, and he pressed the action in their fight. Not even close to what you say.
martial arts is about technique over size and strength. While strength and speed are great, technique will always overcome it.-FuckerDave 01/19/10
I was refering to their fight
People are comparing them based on a fight which AS decided to breakdance through. You say Cote pressed the action and didn’t run etc like most on here.
The facts were, Silva never chose to really engage in the fight(for whatever reason) which maybe gave the impression that Cote was being the aggressor. Cote didn’t have to run cos Silva didn’t chase him. Not something to brag about or declare as a moral victory from a fight. I’ve only seen that fight once (at the time) but can recall how boring it was. There was no pressing at all. Infact, i’d like to know how many strikes, TD’s etc Cote landed on Silva before his knee blew. That may well reflect a more accurate view of Cotes performance
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 21, 2010 5:01 PM EST reply actions
He threw a lot more punches than Silva did
But they aren’t on the same level when it comes to striking(no one is). I’m just saying that everyone knew Cote didn’t deserve to be in the cage with someone like Silva, at least he went in their and fought like a man. He did the best he could with his tools.
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thats it right there jay
nail on the focking head.
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MMAMania
And thats why this site is the shit and Sherdog is just shit!
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jan 21, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Go for it Patrick!
I hope he walks in there, indicates the left field with his index and explode belcher out of the octogone.
Beautiful picture
I hate Grove, love Cote.
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