UFC 108 post fight press conference airs LIVE on MMAmania.com immediately following 'Evans vs Silva'
by Jesse Holland on Jan 3, 2010 12:27 AM EST
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UFC 108: "Evans vs. Silva" from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, is in the books.
Following the caged combat, promotion President Dana White and a handful of participating fighters will be on hand for the UFC 108 post-fight press conference, which is now embedded for an approximate 1:00 a.m. ET start time.
Be sure to tune in following the pay-per-view event to get post-fight reactions from all the major players as well as up-to-the-minute results of all the post-fight bonuses including fight of the night, knockout of the night and submission of the night.
Check it out below.
Live stream and replay courtesy of UFC.com
For UFC 108 live results and play-by-play click here.
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I wonder if Dana will say something about Brock
Dana said earlier this week that Lesnar was going to the doctor to find out what was gonna happen.
They can do better than that
That card wasn’t worth the money. I’m sorry, but I am not impressed. Dana will sell it as a very good card because that is what he does. He’s a salesman, and I hate salesman.
very good fights
i don’t know how you can’t be impressed those were sick fights
maybe the main event was meh but man i duno what u were watchin
What else Do you want?
Only two of the fights went to decision. Every other fight was a KO or Submission. What else do you guys want? Great night of fights!!!
to see Oliviera vs. gunderson
instead of the other prelims twice!
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
haters will always find a way to hate
iagoof22 , you sound like you’d hate anything that had the UFC name on it. If you didn’t like tonight’s fight, you probably aren’t that into combat sports.
I can't believe......
people are still bitching about this card…..I thought it was a great event, the fights were excellent. I don’t need to see a title fight to enjoy MMA. In fact, i prefer watching the guys that are trying to work their way into title contention, as they rarely dissapoint. Fighters that stood out to me were Cole Miller and Sam Stout, as both of those guys really performed well.
I think the posters that are bitching about this being a ppv event are really in the minority, but they just make a lot of noise. I’m sorry, but if you’re still complaining about paying $45 for that event, you need to spend less time on the keyboard and more time earning a fvcking living….it ain’t that much money!!!
UFC 108
I actually found the card very exciting, lots of surprises, all the fights were great except the main event. But this card hard some brutal ko’s that made it very exciting to watch.
Every fighter has a plan until he gets hit
ZZZZ
The last time Evans used this game plan was against Bisping. It went the distance just like tonight. It makes for a much more exciting when Shad throws his hands. But he wanted the win more than he did a KO. I guess you can’t blame him.
Like I said on the other thread, wrasslin' game plans suck!
Very disappointing main event. They hyped this up as “never goin’ the distance”. But with a stroke of luck, a wrestler once again takes us to the limit. Don’t you hate it when wrestlers do this to you?! I mean, it literally wastes 2 rounds[10 mins + in bet.rounds]of your life!
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
by The Negation on Jan 3, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Aye
Thats the sport of MMA. I hate AMerican Wrestlers too but it is what it is. Thats why we have boxing and K1 .
However if i had it my way I would make a sport that was only striking preferably boxing with MMA gloves. Chuck Norris had it right with his fight league just never had the great athletes to back it up
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
This is MMA.
It amazes me when fans complain about wrestlers. This isn’t K-1 or boxing, it’s MMA. If these strikers would learn how to stuff takedowns they wouldn’t have to worry about it. Congratulations Rashad!!!!!
thing is he didn’t win the fight, he lost the real fight but got an mma decision which really sucks. Thiago could have easily finished him there if he wasn’t so scared to give everything, think he thought he had the fight won there. Atleast we know who the better fighter of the two is now, it’s not Rashad. Rampage will KO him so hard he’ll be carried out on a stretcher like the kid he is.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Did you watch the fight??
Shad owned every second of that fight until he got caught in the 3rd. Silva could not finish him, this was a very easy decsion. Im shocked at some of the responses here.
Yea but
How do you judge a winner the guy who gives the most damage or the guy who controls position? IN the street it will always be the guy who gives more damage. So why not in MMA? Rashad gave very minimal damage though he looked very controling.
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
In the street...
Thiago would’ve gotten his ass slammed on concrete multiple times and not always had a wall to walk back up with.
Well in the street, Rashad would have to eat more upkicks from Thiago[which is illegal in the UFC], so Thiago still has the upper hand.
Man these wrestlers bore me to death! Seriously…
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
Oh, my bad...Was that in Pride? Seems I can't get out of the past nowadays.
Thanks for the correction bdw…
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
in the street
Rashad would have been sleeping before he even thought about a takedown, but let’s not go there, it’s still a fight on a mat and wrestling takedowns doesn’t hurt it only gives one guy a great oppurtunity to inflict damage.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
When did Rashad get hit before the 20 Takedowns?
You are really stupid.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
This site is riddled with stupidity. In the street? are you kidding me? who comes up with this shit? Rashad executed a flawless gameplan almost to perfection. He got sloppy in the 3rd and paid for it…but obviously did more than enough to win the fight. If Thiago is such a badass, why didn’t he finish him? He looked like an idiot when he was waving his arms in the air, and then dropping his hands asking to be hit. What a jackass. Aside from the big punch in the 3rd, he did absolutely nothing this entire fight but get dominated. If people don’t like it, go to Youtube and watch some backyard brawls. This was another example of a Jackson-trained fighter executing a perfect gameplan.
I know, right?
What kind of argument is that? In a hockey fight it would have been stopped as soon as Shad took him to the ice, I guess Shad is the best again. LOL.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
In the street...
somebody may have gotten hit with a brick, shot, stabbed, and all of there friends would have jumped in quite possibly ending up in the rumble scene of Anchorman….
Ricardo Liborio: " Você jogou um tridente? "
Thiago: " Yeah. Havia cavalos e um homem no fogo e no
mim matou um indivíduo com um trident."
Marcos De MAtta:, I’ VE sida significado a falar-lhe sobre aquele. Você deve encontrar-se um safehouse ou um fim relativo perto. Coloque baixo por um quando, porque you’ re querido provavelmente para o assassinato.
Ricardo: Thiago, de onde você começ uma granada de mão?
Thiago: "Eu não sei. "
TRanslates to :
Ricardo “Did you throw a trident?”
Thiago: “Yeah. There were horses and a man on fire and I killed a guy with a trident.”
MArcos De Matta, I’ve been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you’re probably wanted for murder.
Ricardo: Thiago, where did you get a hand grenade?
Thiago: " I do not know."
How do you measure damage. A bloody nose is pretty far from the heart, and looks worse than say a broken rib (which you can’t see). Most superficial damage means nothing at all. If you looked at JLau and Stout after the fight you would have thought that Stout had lost.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Or BJ/GSP one. The list goes on and on.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
This is a sport. Grappling is very much a part of it as is striking. It’s difficult to judge but all in all, a takedown is a significant action
you have to see everything to judge it, you can’t say this or that is more effective you’ll just have to see it.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Watch the fight, not just the 30 second Silva highlight.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
I freaking loved this card
except the main event guess greg jackson is teaching his fighters that boring ass wrestling makes better highlights than knockout reels
i don’t get how so many people hate on wrestlers but praise GSP
im not sayin u guys are GSP fans im saying alot of people bash wrestlers but our huge GSP fans…maybe there all canadian
It’s because GSP does something on the ground, he’s effective. the wrestling itself does nothing
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Very true...
the wrestling itself does nothing
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
but allows you to control body position and ulimately the fight itself.
Your right wreslting does nothing, geezuz are you guys kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It only does something to the judges' eyes. ALso it sets up some GNP or subs.
But overall, it virtually does zero damage.
You could be out-wrestled all night and still come out looking fresh. They should fight in a wrestling match and not MMA if all they do are takedowns.
THe UFC scoring system really favors wrestlers. That is a fact.
But I just wish that THiago gave Shad more knees everytime he went for the TD to give him lots of other things to think about except shooting.
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
If wrestling does nothing...
then i guess GSP’s game plan of wrestling his opponent causing the blood to build up in there sholders/ arms to slow down their striking was just bullsh!t then huh? This is MIX MARTIAL ARTS. If stand up is all you want go watch K1 or boxing. All you guys are hating because Rashad used his main strength (wrestling) aginst a muy thai fighter? I think your all just mad because you wanted Rashad to lose but instead he controled the whole fight. Not to mention wrestling also messes with a strikers mind making them more hesitant to throw or kick so why dont you just be real and stop talkin sh!t.
" I'll beat him so bad he'll need a shoehorn to put his hat on". -Muhammad Ali
But how much more does GSP do?
When he takes you down to the ground he is super effective in striking, gnp, throwing knees, or submitting. He does not just take you down for the sake of taking you down. He takes you down, passes your guard, and punishes you. Unlike what Rashad did tonight, which was take Thiago down, sit in his guard, and Thiago stood up.
Under the old Pride rules you could actually win the fight from the bottom, while someone took you down if you remained busier and more active while in your defensive guard. In the UFC and other western mma rules even if you’re the busier fighter working off the bottom, cause more physical damage, attempt sumbmission after submission, the guy on top who may have done nothing but get a takedown, always gets the round cause he had ring control.
I don’t think anyone really believes Rashad lost the fight, but he really didn’t do much other then get the takedowns. The issue people have with wrestlers like Rashad, John Fitch, Clay Guida is that they can’t finish a fight once they take it to the ground. Do some damage after the takedown, pass guard, throw some elbows/hammer fists/knees or attempt somekind of submission. Was that Rashad they were saying just got his black belt last night from Rolles Gracie? Not one sub attempt and his last submission win was in 2004, pre UFC.
When he goes up against Rampage who actually has cardio, takedown defense, fast hands, and the most solid chin in mma just hitting the takedown won’t be enough!
I was thinking the same thing
How does Shad get a black belt under a Gracie? He should have to use jits in a fight to get one.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
i didn’t think they actually have a scoring system. I know they say that bullshit about striking, grappling control , but in reality dont they jut hand the judges a score card and say “go do your best”. Wrestling will always be part fo MMA cause it’s a natural part of fighting. Even if the judges just scored his takedowns as connecting punch it’s still enough to give him the 1st 2 rnds.
oh, he had the first 2 rds cause Thiago did nothing
and you’re right KNOCKOUT5150 wrestling is good to frustrate and tire your opponent out with, great gameplan! just something that makes it easier to eventually score later on when the other guy is all tired, but in tonights main event Rashad couldn’t capitalize on any of your above mentioned advantages from wrestling.
There’s also this one thing called brazilian jiu-jitsu which works perfectly fine from your back, it’s just because the judging of today ppl think they’ve lost the rd if they end up on their back.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Im pretty sure he frustrated Thiago quite a bit , in fact Thiago said he was frustrated ecause he couldnt handle Rashads wrestling. I would say thats capitalizing.
" I'll beat him so bad he'll need a shoehorn to put his hat on". -Muhammad Ali
gsp....
gsp attempts submissions,and passes guard and makes sure his opponents face looks like an inflated homey the clown face….rashad was unable to hold silva down and pound on him and inflict damage that way. IMO I saw rashad had a really good chance to pull off an armbar on his 2nd takedown and he transitioned to the right. Silva left his arm out and if rashad really was a serious blackbelt he could have pulled it off. I’ve seen GSP do that too, when he’s stuck on one gameplan he misses opportunities that are given to him.
yea but people say its a waste of time and GSP’s are 5 rounds of it
personally imma fan of GSP and wrestlers, but people bash that wrestlers mainly take the fight to decision, but yet again so does GSP and his are 5 rounds of it
it confuses me
You say you’re a fan of GSP and then say he takes his fights to decision. Go take a look at his record and tell me how many finishes he has compared to his decisions. I think you’ll be suprised (and pleasantly as you state you’re a fan).
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
GSP Finishes...
Out of 19 fights only 6 of his fights have gone to decision. He has finished 13 of them, what’s that about a 70% finish ratio. That is a damn good finish percentage considering he has been fighting A level fighters since day 1. Besides Fitch and Alves nobdoy has gone 5 rounds with GSP! So only 2 times in his 19 wins has anyone survived his gnp. Fitch got abused all 5 rounds, while Alves faired a little better. So there really is not much to be confused about.
Tiago had that Fight
He can only blame himself for not finishing. I would really like to see how they score MMA fights because if we do a 10 point system i got Rashad 10-9 first two rounds and last round 10-8 for Tiago THUS AN EXTRA ROUND IS NEEDED.
Either way good card with good fights. Rashad got the W and did what he had to do cant hate on him. Either way i wouldnt mind a rematch.
Good fights.
Shad was boring, but it was to be expected. Zack, why would Silva get a 10-8 round for the third? That was a 10-9. Sam Stout is the man, of course.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Only
because i think Rashad was in FIGHT ending trouble and that has to count for somesort of domination. Though Tiago may not have dominated the whole round.
Look at the Forest Griffin fight as precedent. I believe he clearly won 2 rounds and dominated the 2nd round. This gave him the victory I believe
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Shad lost exactly one minute of that fight
And you think it should be a tie?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Yea
thats y i want to know how they score. I would cleary give the third round to TIAGO 10-8 and the other two to rashad 10-9.
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
You won't get a 10-8 for rocking a guy and doing nothing with it
I can tell you that much. Dancing instead of pouncing will also have judges being harsher on you.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
who, me?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
You think Silva deserved better scoring from the judges?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
LOL
You are a worse judge then Peoples. Draw? LOL
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Jesus
Those first two rounds weren’t even 10-10. No way under any rules from any judge was the third a 10-8. Thiago had him hurt, but couldn’t finish him, instead he stood back and had to put his hands on his hips to catch his breath. You think a guy so gassed out that he couldn’t finish someone badly rocked deserves to win a round 10-8…
thank you Russ
the dude has a last initial. Listen to him
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
it was a draw.
watch a fight next time, maybe u should go out and learn for yourself and compare to how it feels getting taken down or getting your brain scrambled. a fight is 15 minutes, the round for round scoring they have does not work at all, and wrestlers have always been favored since the sport is in america where they think wrestling is god.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Octagon control
Is one of the main categories for scoring a fight, of course out-grappling your opponent for 14 minutes of a 15 minute fight is going to help your cause. 1 minute of inspired striking won’t win you many fights. You should tell that to your dancing hero.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
octagon control isn't a main category anywhere and if it is the ppl scoring it are watching curling.
outdoing your opponent for 90% of the match has nothing to do with anything in any sport, it’s about effectiveness in all sports and actually scoring. you should tell that to ur wreslting buds, u fockin faggot.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
why don’t u come over and let me rock ur brain and see what’s real damage and real fighting.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
octagon control is simply a way to differentiate the two fighters after an even match where nothing significant happens. what i’m saying and have been saying for yrs is that wrestling isn’t fighting and the scoring system favors wrestlers when it doesn’t do anything other than giving u oppurtunites to punch your opponent or submit him easier.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Funny that you sound retarded and say things like
“why don’t u come over and let me rock ur brain and see what’s real damage and real fighting.”
Warrior.
You don’t understand or agree with the rules, so you want to punch me in the head? Who’s the retard?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
yeah you go “rock” his brain… that is a stupid argument as is the if this were a street fight argument. if this had been a street fight thiago would have been dumped on his skull on concrete or at best grass four or five times prior to landing a solidified punch. if anything the cage and padded flooring proved to be his almost saving grace.
u are because u can’t see how wrong u are or how messed up the scoring is. and you use every single irrelevant thing u find to get away from the real issue.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
You spent hours saying Silva deserved a better judgment in this fight
Based only on how you think a fight should be scored. Tell me who the retard is again.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
I spent it calling a fool a fag. a guy who doesn’t know what he’s watching.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
LOL
Go petition the commissions to change the rules for you. You are out of your league here. Stupid.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
octagon control...
man, anyone that even listened to the beginning of a UFC Unleashed where golderg explains the criteria of judging very generally would know Octagon control is a major part of scoring an MMa round.
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
i think your problem is...
argueing that the fight was a draw, when what you mean is that it “should have been a draw” That would be a respectable argument, for changing the rule system or sumtin.
But it def. wasnt a draw. it was 29-28 pretty clearly udner unified MMA scoring
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
Good thing zack isn't a judge
Shad didn’t even get knocked down… even in K-1 he wouldn’t have lost a point.
Yea he did
why dont you watch the fight. And if he didnt go down you surely are by sucking Rashad right now. LOL he was practically out on his feet. If you think that was entertaining until the thrid round and early first then you really dont know what fighting is and im sorry.
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
Regardless
IM saying Rashad was hurt way more than Tiago ever was. So do u think the margin should be the same in the third round as it was in the first two. COme on JAY be serious. If Rashad got 10-9 for his rounds then Tiago has to get a 10-8 just because he hurt him way more.
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
He didn't hurt him enough to warrant a two point round win
Shad won this fight, if you think otherwise you are retarded.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
WOW
Ur a moron bro. So what does warrant a two point win?
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
a 10-8
consists of domination throughout the entirety of the round and nearly finishign your opponent. Silva nearly finished him, but did not dominate for maybe one minute. He also didnt even win every minute of the round
It would be lovely if there wer half points in MMA, but thats a conversationfor another day when Zacky grows up
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
DID u ever
Think that Tiago was in trouble of being hurt or stopped throughout the fight come on really? I you did then your fooling yourself. We all knew when Rashad started with the takedowns it was going to be a typical Clinchin event.
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe you just don't understand how to score an MMA fight.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
he said abve that he wanted to though
Its just an MMA match, not a fight. There isnt scores in fights and you go til someone cant.
This is totally different, and you can read the scoring criteria if you use you use youe googles
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
maybe u should learn how to score a fight, and take a look at what happened and what's effective in a fight.
He had him ready to go to bed there.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
And that one minute of action from Silva should have won him the fight?
IS this your first event?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
its ok jay
im thinking the same thing you are about these comments haha
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
it's your first day of fights ever.
who cares if it’s for 6 seconds or a minute, he had him ready to go out and did the only real damage in the whole fight.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Roberto
It wasn’t “real” damage. He didn’t even knock him off his feet. His knees wobbled for one step. Don’t make a mountain out of a mole hill. And don’t have a bias opinion when watching fights. I don’t like Shad at all, but he won that fight, under the current rules.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
wasn’t real? how big is your screen? u don’t have bias, and go out and fight and see for yourself what’s real or not. wrestling is for girls, u don’t hurt or win a fight like that.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
the current rules is what’s wrong, they don’t even have rules that’s the problem. they are free to score however they want and they just can’t do it right.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Whatever Roberto.
If you seriously think Silva won that fight, I can’t help you. He wasn’t in that fight at all for 13 minutes. He lands one punch and does nothing with it, and you think he won the 15 minute contest? You are clueless.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
no rules for judging???
dont kid yourself man. Theres a judging criteria in america’s unified rules way too based on boxing and people want to change it. theres a big controversy on changing scoring criteria…no rules? really? come oooon
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
DRAW
DRAW DRAW DRAW. Only thing he won was the real actual fighting, and no wrestling does not count as fighting, and no i don’t think he should’ve gotten a win. I do realize it’s hard to get a good scoring system but the one today is weak.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Your opinions are weak
They aren’t going to change the rules every time one of your faves loses. Get use to the rules and quit whining.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Your opinion is weak DUDE!!!!
Just Kidding. i aint even reading what you roundmouths are arguing about
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Not interesting argument
Roberto thinks Shad doesn’t deserve a W. That’s all.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
I think they need to realize that rds where the fight is closed to being finished needs to score more than rds where one fighter just controls the tempo. I mean how much closer can u get to finishing a fight? one more punch like that and the fight would have been over totally and they wouldn’t even been able to give a 10-8 u think a fighter should get for “dominating”
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
It is interesting, and it is the only thing holding MMA from being a legit sports event.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
Close to being over?
It was one punch, it was a push that knocked him down.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
yeah right. he was out on his feet, completely in survival mode.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
LOL
Out on his feet? You probably would have stopped it if you were the ref.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
He dominated 1 minute of the round
Not even that. 10-8 is for a dominating round, not one punch.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Check your eyes, get a feeling shut up and get in the game. punches and submissions is the only way to dominate rounds and if you don’t land clean strikes you’re far from dominating.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
You sound like a broken record
You have no clue. One strike isn’t dominating a round. You don’t get a 10-8 round for winning 30 seconds of a fight.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
if you “dominate” a round like u call it, the fight is over unless your name is Clay Guida and get out after losing a 10-7 round. 10-7 is dominating a complete round.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
10-7 is very, very rare
You don’t like how the system works, I get it.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Was the GSP/Alves fight scored 50-35?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
It wasn't because wrestling and control isn't everything.
50-44 would have been about enough.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
He dominated him for 25 minutes straight
Standing and on the ground. If you give that round to Silva 10-8, GSP should have won 50-25, by your measure.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
wrestling and ground control are EVERYTHING in a fight that only had wrestling and ground control
You are very stupid.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
This fight was
What else did they have to judge the fight on? 14 minutes of wrestling and you want the fight to be based on everything but wrestling?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
the first two rounds was a bit of wrestling but he got up relatively quick and was never in trouble. the third round was mostly standup and Thiago rocking his world coming closest to finishing the fight and delivering the only hurting strike in the fight and clearly the most clearcut round of the fight. you have to put everything into perspective, everything is relative son.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
It's all Thiago Silva's fault...
He should’ve just finished Sugar and not take it to the judges scorecards.
It’s really obvious though that he was waaaay behind ’coz of all those takedowns.
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Maybe Its bullshit
and the judges should stop giving away so much points for LAYING AND HUMPING. Be serious. In a fight who ever does the most damage should win no? Come on guys in not saying he should have won but he should have goten more points for delievering more damage. FIGHT SHOULD OF BEEN A DRAW.
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
IMHO, I think the UFC scoring system must be scrapped!!
More damage done means more points! Now that is the way to judge a fight!
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Maybe you should
stop talking bullshit and put some knowledge and let everyone know how you get a 10-8 round.
by The real ZACK on Jan 3, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
DOs Santos too had me quite impressed!
And let’s not forget Semtex. Man that dude delivered some bombs tonight![well, today here].
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Nobody thought Sam had a chance.
He dominated Lauzon. It is hard to take a year off with an injury, you don’t look the same your first fight back. Joe will look better in his next fight.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
His docs
told JLo that he would be returning in March. I give him credit for the heart for returnign early, and for keepin in there, but he gassed in the first round. He;ll be back with 3 rounds of juice im sure next tiem
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
Yeah he had no gas but Stout did such a great job tonight I was very impressed. Totally owned Joe! He puts on a show every time.
very impressive
especially listening to his corners instructions. He would throw the combos they called out. Perfect man. Perfect
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
He should get it because
He knocked him down and almost had him out, only significant damage in the whole fight. U can’t score rounds like the 3rd one the same as the two first rounds Rashad had. btw, Stout-Lauzon rd.1 was a 10-10 in a perfect scoring system.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
hence
the need for half point systems. 10-9.5 or 10-8.5 rounds
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
Well it's been fun
There’s a few good heads in these comments, and a few so ridiculous…no ricockulous even, that duriing reading I went from appauled, to amazed, and then just in histericks over the sheer ignorance and/or plain stupidity.
Bravo. Bravo.
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
notice that thiago pulled a rashad..
in the third round all cocky and stupid in the end..a la rashad style..but yeah rashad won..albeit safe and all..i only got 4 outta 6 on my picks…guess i’m outta mcarthurs pick em pool… :(
IM out
Jay and that other dude we could argue tomorrow… Great NIght of fights regardless of how It SHOULD HAVE went down. WE NEED BROCK BACK!!!!
I took you as a WWE fan
We won’t be arguing tomorrow. That’s sad to even offer.
In case I never read your banter again (crosses fingers)- good luck
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
I think thiago silva thought he was anderson silva in that third round.
He should have actually just finished him instead of trying for andy style ko.
lol
I wanted shad to win the fight, but I’m not gonna lie when t.silva rocked him a bit I hoped he finished rashad, but yup there is no way it was 10-8.
Shad won, not too exciting finish from him but enough to secure a w, he knew silva has power why engage in danger when he has the fight in the bag.
But yea 10-8 ran through my mind, and I hoped they didn’t cheat shad out of his win into a draw
by Phenomenal Angel on Jan 3, 2010 1:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Right picks
Rashad was efficient but boring. Thiago always looks clumsy when he throws punches. Man, semtex is on fire! Got all my picks right. Cant wait til next event. Your guy’s bickering on here has gotten quite ridiculous in my opinion so i dont read most of the comments anymore. Happy New Year!
Bonus?
How does Semtex get KO of the night bonus but didn’t make weight. I thought Dana said not making weight disqualifies a fighter from any bonuses. Rememeber when Anthony Johnson didn’t make weight, Dana said he would’ve received KO of the night but since he didn’t make weight he wouldn’t get it. The owe AJ 60K!!!!
man AJ missed by like 7 lbs no?
Dana loves him some Semtex. He has a man crush
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
Dos Santos wasn’t even a real KO. Daley’s was the most beautiful punch of the night and the only real KO.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
I thought Silva
had the most beautiful punch of the night? And wasn’t Shad asleep on his feet, that has to be a KO.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
I thought Thiago had the most amazing punch ever! If you ask me he won that last round 10-2 I think he actually stopped Rashads heart with that punch and if you can momentarily kill a man in the ring and not win a fight then the judging is unfair and I’m going to go on and on and on about it.
Right Roberto?
"Talk all the shit you want now!
by Earl Montclair on Jan 3, 2010 3:01 AM EST up reply actions
That was a good ko also
But daley missed weightt and KO’ing yvel is more impressive than ko’ing hazellett. I like dustin but his stand up isn’t the best, yvel is known for his stand up and dos santos took him out with a great punch.
Thiago was to gassed.
Rashad was not impressive , And thiago gassed out.
But , Everytime Rashad took Silva down , Silva just stood back up. That shows how strong Silva is.
Anyway , If Silva wasent that gassed out in the final round than I think Silva would have won by stoppage. He rocked Rashad but he was too tired to finnish him.
no joke
He wasn’t pulling a rashad style joke, he was trying to get rashad to commit to the fight instead of taking him down and doing nothing with it.
Imo take downs shouldn’t score every time, because you get people doing it for the whole fight because thats all they have. I can’t wait for rampage or machida to destroy rashad again.
too many points for takedowns
I’ve always thought that takedowns are worth too many points. Yes, it’s control, but when someone does nothing with those positions, it appears he is avoiding the fight.
round 1 takedowns Rashad
round 2 takedowns Rashad
round 3 almost killing your opponent Silva
winner Rashad? Did he even land a punch? A very weak win in my opinion. Impressive wrestling and game plan, I guess.
not a Rashad fan
I think I realized after this fight how much I want to see Rashad get beat up.
He was losing his fights against Salmon, Forrest, Liddell and happened to catch them.
Tito pretty much beat him as much as he beat Silva.
Silva did the only damage in their fight.
Machida destroyed him… yet he claims to be the best.
He’s definitely great… and has so many tools… but, it bugs me when a fighter claims to be the best and can’t defend the belt. He even won it from another guy who couldn’t hold on to it.
Losing to Liddell?
What? He was winning that fight before the knock out, or it was a tie. He wasn’t losing that fight.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
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