BJ Penn: UFC 112 fight against Frank Edgar is going to be 'great' (Video)
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Cote and Leites had bigger chances against Silva than Edgar does vs Penn
Penn will obviously be a huuuge favourite but im gonna bet an assload of money on him because he CANNOT lose in any way, its impossible for Penn to lose this fight.
Yes, anything can happen in MMA…… but the one exception is this fight.
by Lester The Pimp on Jan 13, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
my only fear for this fight
is that, unlike BJ’s last few opponents, he A) doesn’t personally hate him or B) he knows this is a complete waste of his time. i really hope he can stay motivated for this pathetic matchup.
also, how frankie gets to the fight for the belt
without ever having fought diego, florian or joe daddy is a lil silly
I agree
He didnt fight any top contender or number one contender
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 13, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
He's beaten Sherk and Griffin (and Franca when he was relevant)
Frankie is as worthy as anyone else right now and has beaten more top guys than Gray, although it’s funny that Gray’s biggest win is over Frankie. Everyone else that is good enough for a title fight has already been smashed by BJ at some point.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
I love edgar but...
he is in no way, shape, or form going for beat BJ at any aspect of this fight. I would much rather see this fight some time next year. Would rather see Penn/Gomi II just for the spectacle of it (even though BJ would completely own him too). Bottom line, BJ is just on a completely different level then every other LW on the planet.
Agreed BJ is a class above all other LWs
I’d just rather watch him smash someone knew rather than I guy that he smashed years ago, as if BJ could beat someone before he reached his peak and when they had then he’d murder them in 2010.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Not really… It’s a business decision on the part of the UFC. If Edgar fought any of those fighters, who have all already lost to Penn, he would most likely lose, which would make a fight vs Penn pointless, and as a result it wouldn’t happen, causing the UFC to lose the money it would have made on the fight.
This is not uncommon, as it happens all the time. This is the same reason why Dan Hardy is getting a shot at GSP so soon, because the UFC knows he’d lose to the top contenders.
To be fair to Hardy he beat Swick and Semtex beat Kampmann when they were supposed to be the next contenders
That makes Hardy a much better challenger than either Swick or Kampmann for GSP. He may not have beaten Fitch, Kos or Alves but he still beat the top contender as did his teammate. Besides if Swick or Kampmann could have got a title fight without beating the top WWs then Hardy deserves one now that they’ve lost.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
April 2008 anyone?
Two of the biggests upsets I can think of happened that month the supposedly impossible happened. Remember this is still mma, penn is human after all.
He didn’t look like it when he was fighting Diego.
You’re right, anything can happen. But three things that I can see happening are:
Penn by KO/TKO
Penn by Submission
Penn by UD
by FightFan72 on Jan 13, 2010 9:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he beat sherk and griffen
Those are franky’s best wins. He lost to Maynard but the bully doesn’t wanna fight BJ Penn. BJ will never lose at 155. I think after BJ wins this one he will go up to 170 and fight someone like Fitch. I’d love to see him fight Fitch or Alves.
For completely different reasons BJ doesn't want to fight Gray either
He was very critical of Gray’s talent and name recognition recently. I’m surprised that didn’t motivate Gray at all, he must really fear the Prodigy if he’s going to accept that sort of criticism from a supposed friend and mentor.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
Fear has nothing to do with it
They are in fact good friends. Since when is giving an honest opinion/evaluation of a fighter considered to be unfreindly? Even Gray himself knows that he has much to learn. Any reasonable fighter would want nothing less than the truth from their friends, especially if that friend is also a fighter, and even more especially if that fighter is BJ Penn.
Gray accepts that criticism because it’s the truth, not out of fear.
I wouldn't be friends with someone who publically criticised me like that
He bashed his skills and personality and said that he wasn’t worth his time. There’s a difference between being truthful and being a dick and BJ was clearly being a dick in this instance. BJ talked more shit about Gray than Nate Diaz ever has and we saw how personally Gray took that.
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique."
Anderson Silva on why Wand is going to smash Bisping. Get ready to lose your dignity frosnt.
2nd Rnd TKO
BJ will play with him for the first round, then get bored and end it in the 2nd. Frankie has good boxing but he is just too small for BJ. He should actually be fighting at 145.
I'm a Frank Edgar fan but...
He has no chance.. Sorry, but Penn is the man at 155 no one will beat him at 155 period. Sanchez was the last real challenge he had at LW it’s time to go back to WW. Not an immediate shot at GSP but give him a top 5 WW and when he wins people will see there’s no where else to go. BJ PENN vs GSP will be a LEGENDARY MMA trilogy that wil be spoken of in this sport for years to come.
by O damn he got caught on Jan 13, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions
O damn, where you been?
I agree, no one touches BJ at 155. If he moves to ww he can hang with some top 10 guys but not top 5 contenders.
Calu
Bj vs GSP
I think if Penn worked out right and put the weight on properly so he wasn’t fat and out of shape at 170 he would have a chance. He could probably do well defending the takedowns all night and trying to hurt Georges on the feet.
Just Do It
-Nike
r u serious???
dude did u watch any of their first 2 fights???
“he could probably do well defending the takedowns”
come on man. seriously
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
I did watch the first 2 fights
I said if he came in shape…If i’m not mistaken he defended the takedowns perfectly in the first rounds of both those fights. He was only eventually taken down because he got tired. Watch them again.
Just Do It
-Nike
no it wont!!!
in order for it to be legendary penn has to win at least one of them, which he wont!! someone 0-2 does not deserve a third try im sorry!! trilogies are only good if its a rubber match
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
I think edgar will do better than diego
Penn will win but edgar will pose a bigger threat than diego.
One word...SIZE
Not only is BJ better in every aspect of the game, but his size advantage is significant.
I agree with others that BJ needs to go to WW and fight in the Top 10. That would be interesting.
Stay at light weight.
Have a few fights at ww if you must (I’m hoping for a Penn/Hughes 3). Maybe even have a 145 superfight with Aldo or Faber. But please stay at lw.
i really hope
that bj can stay motivated and train hard. i mean he probabaly could take the next 3 months off and still win but i hope he finds some sort of motivation to get him to train hard
BJ cant be stopped
At least not now. The way he is training mixed with his skills. I don’t think anyone will stop him now in ww or lw. So i hope he moves up. But i don’t want to see him fight my boy Hughes cause i don’t want Hughes to retire witha loss.
you are a huge hughes and bj fan? could only mean one thing....
you are just as big of a douche as they are
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
Easy Newfie no need for name calling my friend
Just my opinion. I didn’t know i couldn’t like 2 fighters even if they fight each other. Sorry ill drop one of them for you Newie. :)
and you can like who you want
im just saying that if you actually pay attention to MMA, and you witnessed how hughes and penn act in real life in the last few years, and you still like them, then you have to be a douche
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
4 things for u my mma friend
A. GSP will be wrestling for the gold
B. Don’t beleive everything you see on TV. Trust me on this one.
C. Stop calling me a Douche
D. Happy New YEar
if i keep calling you a douche...
are you going to fight me to the death? then tap out after 4 rounds?
I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.
No im not a keyboard warrior
Prefight hype is done these days alot. There is so much money involed that was just hype he didnt really think they were going to fight to the death lol. so chill kid
Oh and one more thing and then im done with this
I like BJ because He doen’t cheat and he has the balls to go up a weight class. Peace
He doesn't cheat?
How do you know? Are you bj penn, who really knows who cheats and who doesn’t, for all we know he might be the biggest hypocrite out there. How do you know gsp “cheats” there is 0% hard evidence he does, if you have some please enlighten us, gsp must be good he’s fooled the UFC and all the states he’s fought in, other than heresay from sore losers. You have proof he takes steriods? asked moron nursed to rub his shoulders with vas? Seen him rub oil on before fights?. I’d hate to be on trial with someone as biased as you on the jury…..guilty until proven innocent. I know your a bj penn fan but your delusional like he is and most of his fans. All I know is bj has a big mouth..on tv anyways and talks a lot of trash. I have no idea what gsp is like in real life, he might be an a-hole I don’t know, I go by what I see not hearsay. There both talented fighters thats all I really know, gsp plays the good guy on tv and penn the bad guy……..In real life only those around them know there character.
I didnt say any names...........
I didnt want to go there but he got me alittle mad. I was trying to be nice. And i have never said GSP is on the Juice. I have seen a group of fighters come out and say he was lubed up in their fights with him.. So im just going off their word thats all. Nothing to get worked up over its all good we shall see what the future brings for these champs.
welterweight?
I don’t know about that. I don’t see him beating Fitch or Alves. Even Koschek would give him all he can handle. He’s too pudgey at ww and that extra bodyfat slows him down, he definitely isn’t as fast at that weight. Yeah, he beat Hughes at ww but his game was so one dimensional, all gnp, no stand-up at all. Guys now realize the need to be well-rounded and the top 5 in the ww division are just that, plus A LOT bigger than BJ.
Calu
1....
is the loneliest number…..
"We know only one thing about this guy. That he ate a croissant for breakfast this morning." - Bas Rutten on a new french fighter.
Penn had how long to prepare for gsp/penn 2????
LMAO, penn and his fans have unlimited excuses for this guy when he does poorly, he just got outclassed period and had no answer for gsp’s athleticism and style of fighting. Nothing is so lame as I should have been in better shape, blah, blah,blah. Penn is a great fighter and so is gsp. You can be in the best shape possible for you to be in but if your fighting/ wrestling a superior athlete you’ll get tired out and frustrated, everyone has a limit. Gsp has made most of his opponents look bad, so has penn, anderson silva, machida, the top fighters do that. On paper penn should smoke this guy with ease, edgar really needs to pull a serra here(catch him just right, sorry but anyone’s light’s can be switched off). I think penn is an amazing fighter one of the best pound for pound in the world but damn he’s a sore loser like most of his fans.
You guys are a joke!
As a fighter you’re not always going to be facing the GSP’s of the world. This is a sport. It’s about competition. BJ Penn needs to be concerned only about himself, about his legacy and his status as the No. 1 Lightweight fighter in the World. Everything else will take care of itself.
My point is we as fans should not be complaining because we see a fight as not being very competitive. Anytime you have a dominant Champion like a BJ Penn, there are going to be times when the match maker has to sort of look around for the next guy to challenge him. Maybe it won’t end up being much of a challenge. But at the end of the day, this is still a sport that is about competition and Edgar has done his do to get a title shot, who are we to say that he can’t have it or that he can’t beat the champion?
Anything can happen. Look at Jon Jones getting dq’d against Hamill. Look at Serra stunning GSP. So look, Penn needs to take care of business. Go out there and dominate Edgar, continue to cement your status as the best lightweight in the World and move on to the next challenge.
That’s sport.
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