Nate Diaz: 'I really don't think I'm going to stay at 155'
by Jesse Holland on Jan 12, 2010 1:40 PM EST
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"I fought like garbage and I'm sorry to my fans for my performance. I was hesitant about throwing hard punches because I kept thinking he was going to go for a takedown. It looked like I was knocked down in the second but actually he stepped on my foot and when I tried to back out I slipped. I really don't think I'm going to stay at 155lbs. I don't make enough money to have to drop this much weight so I'd like to fight at 170 and only go to 55's every once in awhile. You know if you look at his face compared to mine right now you'd think there was no way he beat me in a fight but I've never been too popular with the judges."
A disappointed Nate Diaz reacts to his split decision loss to Gray Maynard at UFC Fight Night 20 from the Patriot Center in Fairfax on Jan. 11. The Cesar Gracie-disciple was content to throw leather with "The Bully" and despite turning up the heat in round three, was unable to do enough in the judges eyes to take home the victory. Diaz talks about a potential move up to 170-pounds, but is there a spot for him in such a crowded division? And would a few extra pounds make the lanky submission specialist more --or less dangerous?
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LMAO
so you wanna get mauled. One fight in ww ufc division and hello strikeforce catch weights match ups. Your brothers name can only take you so far! Face it, you’re not that good! this coming from a guy with Nick Diaz in his profile pic, and you guys say I’m biased!
Nick vs Nate
I don’t think Nate is anywhere near as good as Nick is. Nick has a much better stand up game and isn’t afraid of getting taken down and leaves it all out there. Nate just gets frustrated over and over and then complains after he loses.
"I bet a funny thing about driving a car off a cliff is, while you're in midair, you still hit those brakes! Hey, better try the emergency brake!"
by Buster Bluth on Jan 12, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
yup
Nick can be losing and then wins or almost always puts on a good show. Nate was on his way to losing convincingly to Guillard until he stuck his neck out there.
you guys are crazy
Nate diaz has a ton of heart and gave maynard one of his tuffest fights and almost won a split decision
I just wich he would have been smart enought to get the fight to the ground by any means necessay (pulling guard) and go for the sub which is his strength
not many fighters better to watch the the diaz’s
yep
thats what is confusing…the quote says he tried to NOT go to the ground…in the third round, when he was down on the cards he should’ve went for the powerful strikes.
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
I usually love your posts
but ur nuts. Nate is riding his brother’s name and accomplishments. He isn’t that good, plain and simple. I do disagree with someone who said his jits is barely above average, I think it’s great, but thats just not enough now a days…ask Royce!
unfortunately for Nate...kev's right, its not enough
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Totally agree
Kev is right. You can’t lose to huggy bear and then Maynard and expect to stay in contention at 155. You especially can’t lose to those two and then expect to be a contender at 170… he’s just delisional… like someone else said, let him go over to strikeforce and fight cute catchweight fights that mean nothing…
Don't forget he lost to Joe Daddy too.
"I bet a funny thing about driving a car off a cliff is, while you're in midair, you still hit those brakes! Hey, better try the emergency brake!"
by Buster Bluth on Jan 13, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
Joe Daddy has been VERY impressive since joining Jackson's
He is the new wildcard in the LW div. imo
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
in fact Joe Daddy/Maynard makes sense now
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Diaz needs to retool
And train somewhere else (which I doubt he’s smart enough to do). He’s grown complacent in his environment and needs to step his game up. I didn’t think he gave Maynard all that tough of a tight. He gave him a fight but it wasn’t the war of Maynard’s career. And those bs antics and taunting when his skills and technique fail him – that’s gotten REAL old. You need a lot more than that at this level of competition. His fate will be worse at WW.
The one and only Smitty...
Actually I think that if he bulked up then he wouldn't be G&P fodder like he is right now
He’s too skinny at 155 so if he can bulk up then that could give him the strength as well as the motivation that he needs to back up the hype. He needs to step away from Nick’s shadow and 170 might be the first step to doing that, at least this way he won’t be drained from the weight cut or look like a beanpole in his fights.
"Wanderlei will win for sure...I think Wanderlei will get there and knock him out with his powerful cross...it’s going to be a big fight, I respect Bisping but there is nowhere to run." Jose Aldo
"Wanderlei is focused and well trained...he will easily win this fight, by a large margin and with much better technique." Anderson Silva
"I think Wanderlei has superior conditioning and experience, I think if Bisping tries to exchange with Wanderlei he will lose...I think Bisping will be shaking. He will be lost." Andre Galvao
Team Brazil on Wandi-Bisping. War Wand.
I am not sure if it would make to much of a difference...
Gray shook of his takedown attempts like it was my 12 year old son trying to take him down. Could you imagine him going to try and take down Koscheck, Daley or Swick, it would be laugable. I was going to say that he just needs some time to grow into his man muscles like Nick did, but I just realized they are only 21 years apart. I thought Nick was older by 5 or 6 yrs. Nate has to do something different because I think at 170 he will get completely mauled and handled by the wrestlers.
At First I Thought
he was going to say he was dropping to 145, but to my surprise i open the article to see his aspirations for WW. MADE MY DAY. LOL
HE will GET CRUSHED!! He doesnt have the wrestling or TD defense for guys like Fitch, Hughes, KOS, GSP, etc. THEN, he doesn’t have the stand-up for guys like GSP, Alves, Semtex, AJ, etc. and he is going to round things out with not having the BJJ skills (yes) to hang with the Matt Serras, GSP, Thiago, Almeida, Maia etc.
Strikeforce welcome another Diaz bro to your line up…. I hate both but at least NICK HAS SKILLS!
The Good Die Young
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jan 12, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
that's what i was thinking
I thought he was heading to the dubya-E-C for some crazy brawls w/Brown, Faber and Aldo
He'd get smashed by either of those guys.....
he just doesn’t have the skill set (or man body) to be relevant against any top guys in any division in the WEC or UFC.
The Good Die Young
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jan 13, 2010 4:26 AM EST up reply actions
It only gets harder for him at WW
I haven’t seen anything from him that would indicate he would do any better without cutting weight. I’ll say this…it worked pretty well for his brother…then again he fights in Strikeforce where the competition isn’t as tough. I think this sounds a little like sour grapes to me.
"I bet a funny thing about driving a car off a cliff is, while you're in midair, you still hit those brakes! Hey, better try the emergency brake!"
two different fighters
I would pit Nick against ANY UFC ww and give him a legit shot (not saying he’d win, but he’d have a shot), where as I wouldn’t give Nate a chance against Scott Smith or whoever strikeforce has at ww (I know smith is a mw, it’s an example!)!
nick also has a much bigger frame than nate
and is better suited for WW. nate still has a LW frame IMO, and would get tossed around at WW.
I think Nate and Diego should both move up to WW, they are to thin to fight up to their abilities at 155. If Nate could actually put on some muscles he would be a pretty good sized WW with his length and there’s nothing wrong with his BJJ.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
If they lose or not has nothing to do with their size anyways.
sometimes the beauty is in the attempt.
true but Diego is fine at 155...Nate should pack on some muscle and move up...he's still soo young and will eventually move up when he's ready
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Is there anyone in the UFC who looks skinnier? Nate has less muscular mass than my 5 year old nephew. He’s a fighter though, I’ll give him that.
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yan117 isn't Alpha
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
They've talked to each other
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
Here's a thread where they were both involved
I don’t pay too much attention, Yan117 has been a really nice guy, so I noticed him.
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/1/5/1235326/avast-ye-pirates-dana-white-is#28258730
Kev, you looked like you took the Mom joke wrong this morning, sorry if you misunderstood my joking.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
ALpha said he was going on Vacation early in the new year.
Maybe he’s gone now?
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
we were joking about you fighting your mom
And KOing her for the bonus money. IT doesn’t matter. I just thought you may have thought I was being serious about putting 25 bucks on you mom.
That’s me and my daughter, your friend sounds like a good looking dude.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
You aren't interested in coming to Montreal for the UFC show are you?
We have a small group getting together for the May first event. Just wanted to see if you were at all interested?
Me, Mac, Bigger Zino, Buster Bluth and OJR so far.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
lol
OJR texted me two days ago. I’m going to mass for my grams 75th bday may 7 so no thanks. I was thinking vancouver but think money will be too tight at that point. we plan on flying into NY for a few days while we r in mass. and by the way, I’d kick my moms ass! now my 6’5 240 lb 18 yr old brother I don’t know, but I think I could take him too!
I remember the pics of your brother, maybe I do pay too much attention.
Would have been cool to meet you in Montreal. We seem to agree on a lot of subjects.
Vancouver looks like they are getting a shit card, I feel sorry for sarah and JJ.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
lol
Nothing wrong with fucking Red Neck bitches, if you are a red neck.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
lol
don’t worry, I’ll put another suite together again end of year/beginning of next, i know you’ll be in!
lmao, you knew because of FB, ass! good one! no one else is around and I'm cooking dinner and bored!
Alph is on holidays....where's Intro?
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
yup
because the judges don’t like him… or because he didn’t win the fight? It was close, but fuck, lay it all on the line!
I don't know why he didn't let Gray take him down
By the third round, the only hope Nate had left was a sub from his back or a KO…agreed for the second time today with Kev, Nate should’ve laid it on the line…check out my post in the Pick’em results thread guys…I need some of your opinions.
"Me and Michael are like Mozart...and Mozart's friend."
"No, I'm like Butch Cassidy..."
"You mess with Mozart, you're gonna get a bullet in your head. Courtesy of Butch Cassidy."
The Diaz Brothers
Nate Diaz is still very young, and despite his performance last night, very talented. Nick Diaz is a threat to anyone he steps into the cage with.
The Diaz bros are overrated, in their own minds! They just seem like two lazy dudes that think they don't need to work hard to be successful.
Sucks to be sick but Thank you Spike for showing the UFC ultimate knockouts all day long!!!
say what you want about nate, but nick is a very talented fighter
he stepped up a weight class to fight shamrock and scott smith
Exactly, some people here really should analyze what they say before they post it. This is probably one of the dumbest posts Ive seen today….
by Floyd Gayweather Jr on Jan 12, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
i hate it when fighters say "look at his face"
there’s more to winning a fight than beating up a guy’s face,
Tito interviewing Babalu: "I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Tito interviewing Fedor: "Let me tell you how you feeling right now?"
How can they be overrated in their own minds? I’m sure they don’t think they are overrated.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
they're probably rated exactly where they think they are within their own minds
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
I can see the talent in the two guys but they never seem to show it!
I would like to be a fan of both guys but their only gameplan seems to be talk shit throughout the fight and try to get the other fighter to do something stupid! Nate needs to fight with more urgency when he is down in fight, like last night.
agreed
not so much Nick, but Nate is always waiting for mistakes to be made and isn’t forcing the mistakes as much as he should…ie. he should’ve let Gray take him down
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
I have to agree with Nate on the decision on last nights fight: he won that fight! He out struck Maynard, out boxed him.
Moving up to 170 could work out for him, he definitely needs to put on some muscle, get more strength and utilize his ground game more. Can you imagine how good this guy will be with more power! The strikes and the ground game and the reach he has, he’ll be a handfull for anyone in the division!
by Sofa-King-Toasty on Jan 12, 2010 2:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
there's a new strategy!
lose 3 out of your last 4, so move UP a weight class. that’ll be better!
no doubt? not very often we here that...
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
No doubt Nate won that fight!
Joe Rogan to busy talking up his lover Gaynard. that u didn’t really pay attention to what Diaz was doing. turn the volume down and watch the fight! Diaz lays hands all over Gay’s face! he got cought in 2nd round twice that’s about it.. Diaz was landing so many combos and hits. the 10 pt judging system needs to go!
by casale4rmpsca on Jan 12, 2010 3:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nate Won?
casale, I didn’t watch that fight all that closely, but from the impression I got I thought Nate won because he was busier and connected more often… Grey hit him with the harder shots, but they weren’t devestating by any means. Neither fighter impressed me with devestation so I have to give the ‘W’ to the busier fighter.
Jorge Gurgel back in the UFC
…….but as Nate Diaz……..But damn Nate, im a fan of yours and your brother. Please please stick to what your proficient at. Jiu Jitsu baby. You dont see Shinya Aoki trying to box Hanson do you? This is why Gurgel is in Strikeforce. Stop trying to be someone your not….All your tough opponents youve beaten via submission. And go to 170 if you want to end your UFC career….. Hello Strikeforce….
by Floyd Gayweather Jr on Jan 12, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions
Anybody else
think that was a shitty fight? Very boring, like nobody was really trying to win.
Hadoken!!
it was...2 guys that belong on the ground but thought they could KO each other
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
Don't throw this choice out the door right away
at least give him a fight at 170 for you to form your opinion instead of writing it off right away.
Who knows what effect the cut has on him? He is a threat to anyone he face because hes impossible to finish and has dangerous BJJ.
Him vs Hazellett would be interesting
dude.....i am
nate sucks
what a boring fight that was made even worse by the fact that he kept acting like a G in the ring instead of throwing real punches. why is this loser still in the ufc. strikefarce would love this guy.
brock lesnar owns fedor's soul
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NATE SUCKS?
Nate is a great fighter he is top notch on the ground and he has decent boxing. He might not have power but saying he sucks what are you smoking. Im sure he would beat anyone thats saying he sucks ass. I hate when people say a fight sucks. Im pretty sure if you suk it would be difficult to go 6-3 in the UFC. who cares diaz has problems with good wrestlers but if it goes to the ground you can get sub by him with one mistake. hes not a push over thats for sure hes just needs to work on his wrestling and bulk up a bit
why didn't Nate go to the ground last night?
"He is gonna find out who Ken Shamrock is, was, and is now!"
-Ken Shamrock
nate is a punk. he has talent, but no plan of action and lacks well rounded skills
his main tactic is to goad guys into dropping their hands and fight stupid and arrogant like he does. when this fails, he gets expossed as a guy with sub par striking and no take downs or take down defense.
his submission game can only take him so far. he needs to train and quit bitching. most of his damage came by way of head but so it shouldn’t even matter.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 12, 2010 6:08 PM EST reply actions
I thought he was announcing a drop to 145!!!!
ROFLMAO!!! Nate!!! You my nigga! But you crazy, foo!!!!
Pack some muscle and move up!?!?! How bout pack some muscle and stay at 155?!
by manof34holds on Jan 13, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
good thought
but he is too tall to pack on muscle and be 155. I’m sure he will pack on muscle and lose at 170. He just seems to be too 1 dimensional for the UFC. His Jits is stellar but he doesnt have anything else. He kept ducking real low last night if Maynard threw a good knee he woulda been done.
Fuck you! I'm an ANTEATER!
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