WEC Quick Quote: Varner's 'D' was trying to stop the run
by Jesse Holland on Jan 11, 2010 10:55 AM EST
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"I thought I was winning, definitely pushing the pace. I was expecting him to try and trade punches with me and that wasn't the case. He had a good game plan. He used his kick to keep me away. I guess that's the M.O. on me; use your kicks, keep me away, that way I don't have to touch you. I definitely came to fight. It seemed like Ben was doing a little bit more running ... a little bit more countering and that's his game plan. We all have our strategies and his was good. I was trying to punch and when that wasn't working , I figured I'll try and kick his legs out a little bit. Maybe he won't run so much and when that fell through I got caught in a guillotine. ... I started going out. I was trying at first and then it was just done. He had it in."
Former WEC Lightweight Champion Jamie Varner talks during the WEC 46 post-fight press conference about the effective gamplan Ben Henderson used to unify the 155-pound title via third round submission. "C-4" was trying to explode on the up-and-comer but had no answer for the "Smooth" strategy and left his neck out for a quick tap out. Is Varner trying to take a little something away from the Henderson win with the constant "run" references -- or is it merely a matter of outlining his opponent's strategy and commending him for it?
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Run
You lost. Deal with it another way, like in the gym.
by Floyd Gayweather Jr on Jan 11, 2010 10:31 AM EST reply actions
this was at the press conference
obviously he had to talk about it, its not like he was running up to people asking them to listen to the reasons he lost.
Varner looked like crap
Henderson didn’t run or try to grapple. Varner kept trying unsuccessfully. I think he even tried to take a couple time-outs again.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
"I definitely came to fight"
by saying that, he’s implying that Henderson didn’t. He needs to accept the fact that he got beat and that Benson was the better man.
Albino Mormon 4 Life
He gave Henderson credit for being the better man
but then he got all defensive when the crowd booed him and said that “he came to grapple, I came to fight” nonsense. I guess he didnt know grappling was allowed.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
So it sounds like Varner's argument is:
Premise 1: Because Henderson was using kicks to keep me at bay,
(sub-premise) and this is because he wouldn’t only trade punches
Premise 2: And because kicking him didn’t make us trade punches either,
Conclusion: Therefore, I had no choice but too get stuck in the guillotine.
It seems to me Varner has defined down what an MMA fight is supposed to be: a boxing match,
hmm
varner vs hordecki both coming off losses ,wins does both of them good things. what you guys think?
varner = douche
i was supprised with varner, it looked like he was out classing bendo in every aspect, he looked to be the better wrestler, and his boxing was crisp, i remember thinking as much as i dislike the guy maybe he would do well in the ufc….. then he got caught is an arm in guilitine and didn’t go for a slam but decided to tap in seconds, i couldn’t belive he would give up a fight that he was winning that easy. i mean if your gonna tap because its tight, slam the guy down, if he doesn’t loosen up then tap. varrner has great skills but the mind and the heart of a rock.
No heart
And seems like he doesn’t even like fighting. Always looking for a way out.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
Agreed
Varner is talented but gutless, Smooth is one of the toughest and mentally strongest fighters in the sport. Heart was always going to be the difference in this one and I’m glad that a classy guy who actually enjoys fighting took the belt from the LW Tito.
"Anderson Silva is the best fighter on the planet...any Anderson Silva fight that is on, people should be buying that PPV, not because he’s my fighter but you know what, he to me is like the Muhammad Ali of MMA...the UFC has been around since 1993, nobody (else) has 10 consecutive wins in the UFC. Anderson has had 10 fights in the UFC, only 1 has ever gone to a decision."
Ed Soares on why Andy is the best fighter in the world
Exactly!
I was on the phone with my lady, who hates Varner (loves Cowboy), and I was explaining how badass Varner was doing. She started talking about what a douche he is, next thing I know, he’s tapping before it hits the mat.
Let’s see Cowboy vs. Varner 2. They both lost to smooth. I wouldn’t mind seeing that Iranian guy fight for the title soon. He was entertaining.
by Miketsi on Jan 11, 2010 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Iranian guy looks like a phenomenal wrestler, and his credentials speak for themselves
But he seemed boxey(not a word, but you know what I mean?) and slow. Throwing haymakers only won’t work against a good boxer. I wouldn’t mind seeing GNP the shit out of Varner though. The Iranian was a WW, right?
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
He was a 155lb’er I thought. The ufc absorbed the WEC’s welterweights I thought.
by Miketsi on Jan 11, 2010 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That sub came out of nowhere
I had varner up but henderson looked like he had a 5 round plan. That was a great submission, I was surprised he tapped that fast too, but it looked tight. I thought bens ponytail worked against him when varner had that guillotine early. Don’t understand why some fighters risk it, I would shave my head.
by DrewMoney$$$ on Jan 11, 2010 12:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
the prince of persia
he looked great minus the high school, behind the 7-eleven at lunch striking. could be a future champ.
as for varner at no point did i see him dominating the fight. the rounds were close until his he showed how gutless he is once again, this time twice in one fight. first by looking for a stoppage and second by tapping so damn fast.
id love to see cowboy kill this douche
Varner Vs Henderson
The thing about Varner is that he is very proud and competetive. When he loses the type of guy he is, makes it so difficult for him to want to admit defeat. I am not saying it is right but its who he is. He is a stud though and just got caught in the web of Henderson. He won the first two rounds so people say he looked like shit are a bit off since he was winning the fight. Henderson is just a freak of nature with his fighting style. Its heavily entertaining.
After that though its obvious here comes the Varner vs Cerrone rematch. But what to do for Hendersons next challenger?
Pretty sure cowboy is guarunteed it
WEC already promised it I think. And i dont think Reed Harris watns to give Varner another shot at Henderson if he comes out on top against Cerrone.
Varner = KJ Noons, his org doesnt like him, and nobody else does
the WEC likes Cowboy and itll be an easy fight to promote
dude.....i am
I like Varner
He’s just frustrated that after a year he gets in there and taps out. Def shouldn’t say that stuff out loud though. I hope he gets back in there and wins cus he has the skills to beat Ben and Cowboy in the future. I can’t stand when they boo him he had a 5 round war with Cowboy and left with a eye/hand/and foot injury. You shouldn’t get booed after fighting 4.5 rounds with all that.
Frank Mir sucks
Frank: It’s “collegiately” not “collegically” and it’s “he has him” not he gots him" and it’s pronounced “Gee-uh-teen” not “Gill-uh-teen”.
Hadoken!!
Actually in the English dictionary it is pronounced Gill-uh-teen
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/guillotine
Just so you know.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
there's a little speaking by the word, press it.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
Frank mir makes up a lot of words
That’s another huge aspect of his douchery.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jan 11, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
He's a multi-faceted douche.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
Do you pronounce the L's in
Filling? or Grilled? Those words have as much to do with guillotine as tortilla.
Not sure what Tortilla has to do with Guillotine. The English Dictionary is on that link, it has a button to press to have in pronounced properly. Can’t agree with you and argue with the Dictionary.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
The English dictionary has nothing to do with how a word is pronounced in English?
You lost me.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
LOL
Ok, Brizzle. You’re wrong. It doesn’t matter, both ways are accepted. The word Guillotine wasn’t invented with JJ. It was also a torture device and has been pronounced the right way for centuries. The way you say it is the way English people say it. English have a way of changing words to make it easier to say. Dumb disagreement, really.
If a word isn’t an English word originally we aren’t allowed to use it? I don’t get your last post. It doesn’t matter, I probably won’t see your reply, so save it.
"He#s the WWE champ and with out a doubt should be ranked higher than any other man in the UFC. "-Puck Head, LOL.
AYE
ISNT funny how varner said i came to fight and ben came to grapple ,but hes the one that was shooting in and clinching and when he got caught in the choke, ben took what he gave him. he shot in on him.
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