Ultimate K-1 vs. MMA clash: Sadaharu Tanigawa wants Schilt and Overeem 'to defeat Fedor'
During the K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 post-fight press conference held on Sunday, Dec. 6, K-1 event producer, Sadaharu Tanigawa, hinted at the continuation of the "K-1 vs. MMA" clash that began in earnest with the Dynamite!! 2008.
In the annual K-1/MMA hybrid fight card on New Year's Eve last year, MMA fighters accomplished a clean sweep of the K-1 squad in a series of matches contested under MMA and K-1 rules.
In the MMA matches, Mirko Cro Cop chopped down the "Techno Goliath," Hong Man Choi, with leg kicks and Minowaman submitted the K-1 fighter and MMA debutant, Errol Zimmerman, in 61 seconds. Then, the MMA trio of Alistair Overeem, Gegard Mousasi, and Tatsuya Kawajiri stepped up to the K-1 turf to hand dispiriting losses to the proud K-1 vets, Badr Hari, Musashi and Kozo Takeda.
Fast forward to 2009: K-1 fighters have staged a reprisal to retrieve their honor.
Remy Bonjasky edged Alistair Overeem in a K-1 Super Fight in March; the soon-to-retire Masato knocked out Tatsuya Kawajiri during the K-1 MAX event in July; finally, Hari avenged the aforementioned loss against Overeem in the semifinal of the K-1 WGP this past weekend.
The ongoing tug-of-war between K-1 and MMA flared up in the days preceding the weekend's K-1 WGP Final, as Overeem commented that "K-1 is easier than MMA" and challenged the fellow GP finalists to MMA matches. In fact, Overeem figured into the Final Eight of the tournament as the MMA outsider threatening to capture the K-1 crown. While Badr Hari sabotaged Overeem's K-1 invasion, it looks like the war is not quite over.
Now, Tanigawa is voicing his wish to have Semmy Schilt and/or Alistair Overeem fight Fedor Emelianenko.
While he did not mention whether the Fedor fights will be contested under K-1 or DREAM MMA rule, he commented that, "looking across the fighters across the world, Schilt and Overeem have the best chance of winning against Fedor, and we are lucky that they fight in K-1." He further stated that fighters with excellent striking have the best chance of beating Fedor and that "Schilt probably has not been training MMA much lately, but if given sufficient time to train, he would be able to face Fedor."
Since he did not disclose the time table for the bouts, it is safe to assume that the Schilt/Overeem vs. Fedor is a mere suggestion at this point.
Schilt captured the fourth K-1 World Grand Prix title on Saturday -- a feat matched only by the retired K-1 legend, Ernesto Hoost. Overeem, on the other hand, knocked Ewerton Texeira out cold with knee strikes in the quarterfinal before falling to Badr Hari in the semi-final.
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They are both excellent strikers, and are both quite a bit bigger than Fedor.
but both would probably get mauled on the ground, although he has come a long way since the last time they fought, and has a subs game of his own, but I’m not really interested in the Schilt fight.
Overreem is a beast and he would outstrike Fedor, but Fedor has more tricks up his sleeve than alistair has had hot dinners, and that guy eats like 8 times a day! Either man needs a knock out early or Fedor will have time to find a 1/2 inch of vulnerability and turn it into a W
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP, Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Dec 9, 2009 6:32 AM EST reply actions
Semmy
Has already fought and lost a decision to fedor,
Every night i would pray to God for a new bike, then i realized God does not work that way, so i stole one and asked him to forgive me
although he has come a long way since the last time they fought, and has a subs game of his own, but I’m not really interested in the Schilt fight
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP, Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Dec 9, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
fedor would school them both in mma,megareem has 2 much hype,his good I will admit that see when badr hari got the tko he was still standing after that headkick and looked unfazed his got a hard head LOL
and by the way, "sexy-yama"
Isn’t having multiple accounts against the rules? Noticed all your posts at BloodyElbow (Under “sexyama”) were all taken down (and were probably banned) so it seems you had to make a second account just to join in on the fun.
They would either get subbed or knock the other guy out.
don’t really see any other options for them.
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP, Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Dec 9, 2009 6:51 AM EST up reply actions
Schilt?
Sorry, but the dude is just too big for MMA. He’s almost 300 lbs, he moves too slow to have any real chance against Fedor. Ûbereem would stand a bigger chance
FEDOR would wrap up Schilts leg fast
He’s too tall, and uncoordinated for mma against the best ever.
Question, can anyone fill me in on Badr’s left shoulder blade? Is that a birthmark? Recurring bruise due to previous injury? A burn? If anyone knows i’d appreciate it. THX
by daniel worby on Dec 9, 2009 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Looks like hair or a birth mark to me anyway???
Man, I wouldn’t like to grapple with him if it was hair…lol
I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!
I have no idea.
Have always thought of that myself, his shoulders are great however, his punching power is just incredible! I’d say he’s pretty much my favorite of all fighters, and the K1 WGP finals is hands down the best fighting event of the year.
It's hair
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CoBvwhPXqg&feature=player_embedded
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
Man that is disgusting...
And no dis-respect to all you hairy people, all i know is my wife would make me shave that jumper off asap!!!! Don’t look at the video if your dinner is on, mine is and i just lost my appetite.
I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!
lol...it's just hair dude
Your dinner is on?
Where you live?
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
Ahhh Ireland
Well, Badr’s hairy back ruined your appetite for dinner…..and thinking about an Irish dinner ruined my appetite for my breakfast lol. I guess we’re even lol.
J / K
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
ha ha ha thats funny
Tkkpal, truly does not seem to impressed by the answer.
by daniel worby on Dec 9, 2009 11:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's too busy eatin' all those spuds to answer lol
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
Your dead right..
I was eating my spuds. Proper Irish dinner, can’t beat it.
I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!
lol...j/k dude
Some ’ish in me as well.
Thank God the other half is Italian though…….for the food.
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
well
THX for the info, intro, that was….enlightening…
:S
by daniel worby on Dec 9, 2009 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
MMA is harder than K1
I watch both sports and like them equally ( I dare anyone to watch a K1 Max final and call it boring), but the fact is MMA is harder. You do not just have to master striking, but also wrestling and ju jitsu if want to succeed. Learning all these other disciplines has got to make it harder.
Schilt is not the same fighter that was submitted by Fedor and Barnett, that was a very Long time ago. He initially got by in K1 and won mostly because of his size, and power. His technique was very limited, and there were were a lot more skilled fighters than him, but his size and power just overwhelmed them (my reason for not being a Brock fan). Schilt has defintely develpoed and displayed a lot more skill over the years when fighting, which makes him more dangerous than ever. Schilt is no Hong Choi Man (not sure of the spelling), he is a much better fighter than him, and although Fedor may well get the sub, he will not get it easy . Schilt knocks fighters out with his jabs, and has a variety of kicks that from a normal fighter would not have eneded a fight so quickly, but coming from him have left fighters in a heap on the floor. Definately not someone to be taken lightly , as Badr found out in the final. Overeem will always have a punchers chance against anyone, although the knee he through in the final was no joke either.
You don't have to "master" all of those disciplines to be an MMA fighter.
No such thing as an MMA fighter who has “mastered” all disciplines. They are good at all disciplines, but “master”…no.
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
schilt
I still feel he lacks many skills and that his size is more than likely the reasoning he is able to impose his will.
by daniel worby on Dec 9, 2009 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
To succeed you do
Talk about picking holes. I wasn’t talking Grand Master , but you definately have to be more than just good especially these days. BJ, GSP and Anderson are a bit more than just good. If I had known that you were going to get your microscope out, I would have chosen my words more carefully.
by Ade on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Schilt/overeem vs fedor
none stand a chance against fedor!

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