UFC Quick Quote: Kenny Florian has changed for Clay Guida

by MMAmania.com on Dec 7, 2009 5:05 PM EST

"My body definitely has changed. I definitely am at my biggest and at my leanest.... I feel very, very strong. I feel I'm at my quickest, and I'm in tremendous shape right now.... We've really gone back to the basics. I feel like it's been a total rebirth, a total upgrade of what I've been doing.... I believe people are going to see even more of a change in the way that I look and fight from here on out. It's going to be more of a change than what it was after the Sherk fight.... He's one of those guys who's a survivor, and he's very, very tough. I have my work cut out for me. This is a great fight for me to get back on track. He's a very well-respected opponent, he's one of the best out there and that's who I want to fight. Those are only the people I want to fight."

-- Former two-time number one lightweight contender, Kenny Florian, tells TSN.ca that he feels reborn after training alongside UFC Welterweight Champion, Georges St. Pierre, and his team of trainers and training partners in Montreal, Quebec. Florian is set to take on Clay Guida at UFC 107 next week, which means that he needs to be in top form to handle the maniacal tempo that the "Carpenter" will likely look to establish early and often during their potential 15-minute clash. Unless, of course, one of them can finish things sooner. Care to take a guess who that might be on Dec. 12, Maniacs?

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Man, I really hope Kill-Flo handles Huggie.

Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

by P-Dub on Dec 7, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions

Your not alone.

And hopefully Fitch decides not to be in hump mode.

by BNF on Dec 7, 2009 5:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

yea i honestly don't care for guida's style of fighting

that diego fight was exciting when diego was punishing the fuck out of him in the stand-up. That first flurry was insane and the head kick was pretty damn nice too. He doesn’t really make an effort to finish fights, he just tries to maintain top position. I don’t know i just don’t like the lay and pray technique. Hopefully Ken-Flo submits him because he may not have the power to finish him. Guida took a lot of damage from Sanchez and stayed in there.

by Blunt n' Beer on Dec 7, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions

Also, Diego’s elbows from the bottom were brutal. The Hellbows have been in hiding recently. Hopefully they make a reapperance on Guida’s head.

by BNF on Dec 7, 2009 5:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

agreed 100%

would love nothing more than to see Kenny split Huggie’s head wide open. And just reigning down hellbows until the ref is forced to stop it. Or possibly sink in a rear naked choke ah-la B.J Penn vs. Joe Stevenson. That would be more than sufficient entertainment.

by Blunt n' Beer on Dec 7, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions

Man, you hate Guida.

Good, I hate when people try to defend his style.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 7, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions

idk..

so many ppl hate him but the thing is, i don’t think anyone one here cud be half as good as him wen it comes to fighting so lay off, if u can’t do wat he does then don’t talk down to him, and im just defending both points but here comes the insults and the non-logic speaking ppl telling me im wrong wen i never said hes a great fighter in the first place, just saying see both sides..(btw hello jay)

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions

Hey bob

bob this is an opinion blog. We aren’t saying we can take Guida. We are saying that it sucks having to pay money to watch someone like Clay Guida. He’s boring. There really isn’t two sides to look at in this case, bob. He is boring and no one wants to see the guy fight.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 7, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions

true..

but i like watching him fight, i like his energy and personality, theres way worse fighters out there, but y do we all like jonfitch, hes boring as shit too..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions

who is "we all" in that jon fitch comment?

have you read the comments in the fitch interview? i believe there are a numerous amount of people that are saying the same thing about fitch as we are about huggie bear.

by Blunt n' Beer on Dec 7, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions

oh, i was too lazy, i don’t mind jon fitch but i do respect how hes hard to beat, i stand corrected, im glad u guys think hes boring too..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions

yea for sure, check it out some guy tries to argue with P-dub.

pretty entertaining stuff actually.

by Blunt n' Beer on Dec 7, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions

haha i sure will..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions

Just to clarify

I could respect Guida and Fitch a little if they would at least be honest about what they do. Tell us you’re going to secure top position and sit there and look for a decision, but don’t feed us any bullshit about ground and pound, look for a choke, etc.

If they would just attempt to finish a fight, even if they aren’t successful, but they at least try, I will stop hating on them.

Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

by P-Dub on Dec 7, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions

Same here Intro

At least try to finish a fight.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 7, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions

Jackson's influence

It’ll be interesting to see what kind of influence that training at Jackson’s camp will have on Guida. I don’t hate Guida and I think he’s a solid fighter with obvious holes in his game. Jackson is all about closing and minimizing the holes in fighter’s games so we’ll see what he can do here.

I still think Kenny will find a way to out-smart Guida. Florian is great at adjusting his game plan mid-fight to expose holes that he sees during the fight. Guida may get Kenny down but he’s going to go for strikes and subs the whole time and if Guida postures up…I see Kenny throwing his legs up for a traingle.

Kenny via sub early in the 3rd.

"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes."

by Buster Bluth on Dec 8, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions

Well jay

who in the hell are you speaking for with the “we” shit ? Guida happens to be a very popular UFC LW . I would suggest you broaden your mma knowledge base so you and your boyfriends don’t find yourself “booorrred” by the efforts of the great fighters you disrespect . Another solution might be to just not watch UFC and their stable of great wrestlers .

by carslick willy on Dec 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions

i dont find clay's fights boring

Simple as that for me. I personally don’t. Its a shame everyone else does. I also didn’t find sheilds boring in his victory over Lawler. Tho I did vs Mayhem. I found Kenny boring vs Penn. & Vera couture was slow for me.

I pick clay over the listed above fights.

by daniel worby on Dec 8, 2009 12:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

kimbo houston

Was also much more boring than a clay guida fight IMO.

by daniel worby on Dec 8, 2009 12:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

there's definitely one negative thing i'll say about your post.

the argument “i don’t think anybody here could be half as good at him when it comes to fighting” is possibly the worst argument you can use to defend your point. What does that prove about anything? When did anybody say we could beat him in a fight. We are stating our opinions about him, how we would fair in a fight is arbitrary, get your head on straight.

by Blunt n' Beer on Dec 7, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions

ok..

u don’t need to start with the hea straight stuff, im just saying ur acting like hes a crappy fighter, and im saying hes better then u cud fight so y shud u act like hes so bad if he cud beat u, if ur not as good then ur nuthing but a critic who does’nt really mean much in the big picture, thats wat im saying..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions

yea i am a critic bob, i'm a fan that pays for a fight? If you pay for a movie are you not aloud to criticize it?

i see what you’re saying about him being an able fighter, but he’s not one that many of enjoy to watch. So we state that opinion and you saying that opinion is wrong because i can’t beat him in a fight is just ridiculous.

by Blunt n' Beer on Dec 7, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions

yea srry for getting alittle out of hand, i did’nt say my point as clearly as i cud hav, i undeerstand, it just dissapoints me how no one ever seems happy about anything on this site, all everyone does is shit talk fighters..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions

True Bob

Complaining is becoming the norm on MMA sites.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 7, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions

yea..

i saw ppl bad mouthing randy couture and rich franklin, thats wen u know sumthing is crazy, atleast they don’t say mean things about liddell..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions

HaHa

This site was Liddell bashing central for the past year and a half. He hasn’t been fighting lately, when he does it will start again.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 7, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions

wow..

why bash him, hes not my fav fighter but he had it all, nice guy, finishes fights, cud fight 5 hard rounds, and loves to stand, if thats not wat these guys want then wat the heck is??

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions

He can't take a punch any more, and he's too predictable

Those are the main points.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 7, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions

true..

sadley i lost all faith i had in him, but he does’nt deserve to be bashed cause hes not the fighter he used to..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions

It's what we do.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 7, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions

to be fair

I think kenny’s last fight showed him being less entertaining & sticking to a flawed gameplan too long, then clay’s last performance.

by daniel worby on Dec 7, 2009 7:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Hiding?

I asked you something in the other thread.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 7, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions

hiding? r u kidding me JAY?

I tore a bloody strip off u in it. If u didn’t notice they took urs and m comment off after I teed up! I’ve never been so upset on a site then the wreckless and useless lie u accused me off. I’m no longer replying to ur comments as ur a P.O.S.

& what I wanna say to u gets taken off. I was willing to and would still be willing to get banned to say what I realllllly wanna say to u, u low, low, LOW version of a human being.

Go make up more stuff buddy!

by daniel worby on Dec 8, 2009 12:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

i bet the k flo fiting this sat wud kill the k flo that fought bj penn!!!

by d*locc on Dec 7, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions

am i the only one that thinks guida is gonna overpower and outwork kenflo?

by panthro on Dec 7, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions

If by overpower and outwork you mean take him down and hold him down, then no, you’re probably not the only one. I’m hoping like hell that doesn’t happen, but I’m fearful that it will.

Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

by P-Dub on Dec 7, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions

just cause he takes the fight to the ground doesnt mean he just lays on top of people. i cant think of too many boring fights that guida has been apart of. guida is one of the most active fighters on the ground, he never stops punching even when he’s getting hit himself. i just think he’s gonna be too strong for kenflo

by panthro on Dec 7, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions

Guida does not attempt to pass guard, improve position, work for subs or implement any effective ground and pound. All that leaves is laying on top of people. And the exciting fights he has been in were directly caused by the people he was fighting against.

Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

by P-Dub on Dec 7, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions

it takes 2 to dance

by panthro on Dec 7, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions

Not true. Just ask Billy Idol.

Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

by P-Dub on Dec 7, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions

LOL

Nice dubster!!

Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]

by The Negation on Dec 8, 2009 6:33 AM EST up reply actions

Ha, I’m glad I’m not the only here old enough to get that!

Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

by P-Dub on Dec 8, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions

I am not a Guida fan

However , sir , you have just uttered one of the most ill informed , narrow minded and obtuse retorts that I have encountered on MMA message boards . Congratulations , dumbass !

by carslick willy on Dec 7, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions

Who was that directed at?

I need to know if I need to tear you a new one or agree with you.

Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

by P-Dub on Dec 8, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions

It's literally impossible for Guida to win.

If the judges could only learn how to score fights. Guida is going to be dominated standing up and on the ground.

by RoBerto. on Dec 7, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions

i picked clay to win panthro :S

by daniel worby on Dec 7, 2009 7:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

kenny ftw

i dont see any way guida wins this. stand up is all kenny, and if guida takes him down and sits in his guard, kenny will elbow the living crap out of clay. They only way i think guida wins the fight, would be to take kenny down with slams, land little pop shots and then let him up and set up the next slam, the only problem with that is kenny is a hard guy to get a hold of.

by Blazy j on Dec 7, 2009 5:33 PM EST reply actions

i think k flo will shrug the hug..

but his brother yelling in the corner is like nails on chalkboard..

by sarah- on Dec 7, 2009 5:33 PM EST reply actions

My heart says clay, my head says kenny.

by JoeChd on Dec 7, 2009 5:34 PM EST reply actions

Same Story

Sounds like the same line he gave before the B.J. Penn fight.

by leerage on Dec 7, 2009 5:35 PM EST reply actions

Exactly what I was thinking

Blablabla, youll never ever get the belt anyway Kenny.

by Lester The Pimp on Dec 7, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, but Kenny actually does improve and add new elements to his game every time out.

Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

by P-Dub on Dec 7, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions

lame..

u can’t just disreguard a fighter cause u don’t think there gonna get the belt, so wat theres many good fighters who r not number 1..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Dec 7, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions

realllly?

I was thinking he sounded more respectful if anything. Its like everyone hates bk Penn as much as I do. Always see the #1 contender talking way too much shit before a Penn fight. Then losing cause Penn is way better. But then back to saying nothing bad about their future non title fight, opponents. Its weird to me and a poor decision IMO.

by daniel worby on Dec 7, 2009 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

OMG FINALLY...FINALLY...FINALLY

i get to see it……jake shields vs hendo…a real life ranked opponent….

jake shields – the highest ranked fighter to have never fought a highly ranked fighter is finally gonna fight a top tier guy for the first time in his life….and the world will finally see what a terrible fraud this guy truly is….lets see him pull his butt sex gay porn takedown lay and gay on hendo…im dying to see hendo come after that belt…jesus i cant wait for that FUCK to die…

but back to the thread….

huggie bear is nothing more than a jake shields who has actually fought top contenders….i hate guida…but not as much as shields….i see this fight goin pretty much the way the kenflo – joe stephenson fight went….kenflo by submission

god i hate jake shields

jake shields is the highest ranked fighter to have never fought i highly ranked fighter...i cant wait till hendo signs to strikeforce and murders that talentless waste of flesh

by HellaHectic on Dec 7, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions

F the thread, this thread is as boring as a Guida fight.

We are finally going to see Shields face a ranked fighter! I can’t wait.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 7, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions

at least this thread isnt as bad

as watching a jake shields gay porn butt sex fest…unless thats your thing

jake shields is the highest ranked fighter to have never fought i highly ranked fighter...i cant wait till hendo signs to strikeforce and murders that talentless waste of flesh

by HellaHectic on Dec 7, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions