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Dana White: No apologies for Kimbo Slice ... just credit

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Quoteworthy:

"I don’t know what Houston Alexander’s corner was doing, but that was the worst game plan they could have ever come up with.... I am not sure if Kalib Starnes was training him or what, but that wasn’t the Houston Alexander I had seen fight before. I don’t think I have to apologize to Kimbo. I helped him. I said what I did and he did the thing athletes do: He went out there and he worked and he made himself better. He deserves credit. He took me up on the offer I made, did what he had to do and went out and beat a legitimate UFC fighter."

UFC President Dana White feels that issuing an apology to Kimbo Slice isn't necessary after the former Elite XC golden boy earned a unanimous decision victory in his Octagon debut over UFC veteran Houston Alexander at The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 10 Finale last night. White often slammed Slice and Elite XC executives for their marketing and promoting of Slice -- a former Miami street brawler -- while the promotion was in business. And when it went under, White challenged Slice to participate on a season of TUF to prove that he didn't have what it takes to compete at the highest level of the sport. He was right, sorta, because Roy Nelson, not Slice, went on to win the show. But Slice did pick up a win over a notable name ... and he showed flashes of vast improvement in the process. Should White continue on with what many fans feel is a hypocritical sideshow or has Slice earned the respect to be taken serious?

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Kimbo

As long as he can cut to 205, he can have some success in the UFC… if he plans on going back to HW, he will get smashed!! I was impressed with his ground game, but even moreso with his patience. Look forward to seeing him again.

by PHISH NATION on Dec 6, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Next Fight

How about Kimbo vs Stann? Could be fun!

by PHISH NATION on Dec 6, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Could be a 10 second KO...

"If you're not a fan of Hulk Hogan, you're not a fan of entertainment in sports"
--Goldberg.
"Kimbo is dominating on the ground"--Rogan
"Kimbo throws that jab to finish fights"--Goldberg

by frosnt1 on Dec 6, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

HULK HOGAN AND MIKE GOLDBERG

frosnt i thought that was damn funny too…if you dont like hulk hogan, you are not a fan of entertainment in sports! haha man what a bum a living soap opera

"to the death Georges. I mean it" - BJ

by Newfie3 on Dec 6, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

What an embarrassing night for the UFC, promoting a crap wrestling promotion in TNA, the return of an ancient old man who hasn’t been relevant in years, a terrible ending to a great co-main event and one of the worst fights in the promotion’s history. K-1 and boxing kicked the UFC’s arse this weekend in terms of quality programming.

by David W-S on Dec 6, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It's spike TV man take it easy

 They have to promote other programs on Spike, wich one is TNA, Besides the Kimbo fight the other fights were not to bad. Jones was impressive as was Edgar. Roy Nelson is a big experienced fighter that destroyed Imes(the last HW TUF finalist). With three of the fights being fighters from this seasons TUF I don’t think anyone was expecting typical high quility fights? I was pleasantly satisfied.

by BeaverRaider on Dec 6, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones, Edgar and Big Country all impressed me, though the Jones fight was soured by the pathetic ending.

I feel embarrassed everytime Spike make the UFC waste their time promoting other shows, does any MMA fan really care about Hulk Hogan wrestling in 2010? I’ve never seen Strikeforce commentators interview the cast of Dexter during shows on Showtime, they don’t waste their audience’s time by cutting away from the fights for a cheap plug. That arsehole Hogan once called MMA staged, so why did the UFC waste their valuable air time giving him more publicity?

by David W-S on Dec 6, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

For Kimbo Yes.

Kimbo needs to cut down to 205. He did look good and was much stronger Houston who looked terrible and can’t box for sh!t, dude needs to realize that nobody is afraid of his muscles and cut down to 185 or retire! He thought he was the new Machida out there running around with his lame kicks.

by RoBerto. on Dec 6, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess that was a joke?

The chances of Kimbo KOin Stann are about the same as Kimbo suddenly sprouting wings.

"If you're not a fan of Hulk Hogan, you're not a fan of entertainment in sports"
--Goldberg.
"Kimbo is dominating on the ground"--Rogan
"Kimbo throws that jab to finish fights"--Goldberg

by frosnt1 on Dec 6, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

so who is Stann?

He’s not exactly a standup specialist.

by RoBerto. on Dec 6, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

i said the same thing to my friends last night…that would make perfect sense (if he could he could get to 205 which i think he should be able too)

by njbengals85 on Dec 6, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Dana.

Kimbo definitely would have engaged more if Houston wasnt running away from him all night.

by HEELHOOK on Dec 6, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

I thought you weren’t going to buy this fight?

by soadtrails on Dec 6, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It was free.

But don’t tell heel hook. He’s probably going to complain about the price later today. LOL

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 6, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

I know it was free, at least 2 times he said he wouldn’t buy the PPV.

by soadtrails on Dec 6, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember soadtrails

I was laughing when I read what you said.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 6, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I was making a point.

That I would not pay to watch Matt Hamill in a Main Event. Then I posted that Its a good thing its free cause I wont pay for it. I have been paying for UFC PPV’s since day one so I feel the right to complain when Dana throws cans like Matt Hamill into main events. It bugs me and if Matt Hamill wasnt deaf he would not even be in the UFC,

by HEELHOOK on Dec 7, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

"if Matt Hamill wasnt deaf he would not even be in the UFC"

he’s a 2 time WORLD champion am. wrestler with extremely improved striking…he belongs in the UFC and it has nothing to do with him being deaf…

by McArthur... on Dec 7, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE

Dana talked all this smack about Kimbo and how he was worth a crap. NEWS FLASH! Kimbo still can’t fight. If he was in there with any of the top 20 lhw/hw there is no way he would last. Pathetic, pathetic and pathetic.

by Paco Charte on Dec 6, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

Simmer Down!

I agree that if Kimbo was to fight a top contender right now he would be doomed, but give the guy some credit. He is leaps and bounds above where he was before TUF and if he continues to work like he is, he will be a force to be reckoned with! I thought Dana was making a huge mistake by giving this guy a chance, but Kimbo proved himself on the show, and last night. His ground game needs a lot of work, but even Houston knew not to stand with him.

by JCue119 on Dec 6, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Spot on

After that showing I felt embarrassed to call myself a fan of mixed martial arts, the worst thing of all is that a lot of people will have seen Kimbo-Houston and now think that that was a true representation of the sport. It was a horrendous fight and after Dana apologised for Andy-Leites he damn sure better apologise for this atrocity, oh wait Kimbo brings in ratings so who cares :sigh:.

by David W-S on Dec 6, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you think that Kimbo-Houston was a good representation of mixed martial arts? Chances are that that was one of the most watched fights in the history of the sport yet it was truly appalling. Neither of them have good conditioning, the first round had no action at all and neither had any finishing instincts, that’s not even taking into account their lack of technical skills. If you are a fan of mediocre fights then keep watching, after that shocking display I’m skipping the next Kimbo fight unless the UFC gives him a relevant opponent.

by David W-S on Dec 7, 2009 6:41 AM EST up reply actions  

As much as you probably..

Want to stick by your guns, I bet you’ll watch it, lol!! The first round was shocking in fairness, lets be honest about that, I was literally getting dizzy and screaming WTF is going on at the tele, but the second made up for it and that slam was crazy. Neither of these guys are title contenders(or ever going to be) but a fight like this every now and again is good just for fun and how bad is that?? I mean a bit of entertainment thrown in just for sheer ratings never hurt anyboby and new fans will be treated to real thoroughbred mma fighters who will be on the same card as Kimbo aswell so its a win win all round. I know true ‘hardcore’ fans might be foaming at the mouth like Diego on his entrance walk over this Kimbo fight but I for one won’t be holding a grudge just because Kimbo fights in the UFC, win or lose I would have to say i’ll be interested enough to watch Kimbo again just for sheer curiousity whether it be in the UFC or Strikeforce or someones back yard!!! lol

I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!

by tkkpal on Dec 7, 2009 7:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I like the way Dana

called Houston a legitimate UFC fighter, anyway, agreed, good for Kimbo, but bad for the sport, alot of people know who Kimbo is, he’s actually a pretty famous guy, but he is famous for being a big scary lunatic who beats people up in yards and parking lots. And then people will here that Kimbo is in the UFC, and they’ll say “God what a bunch of mad bastards, cagefighting, it should be banned”.

However if the UFC speant as much time publicizing the fact that Olympians, martial arts champions and black belts are fighting in the UFC, as they did promoting pro wrestlers and street fighters, then maybe the masses would start taking MMA more seriously. but what do I know, I’m just a fight fan!!!

In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP, Amen.

by Spinning Fat Kick on Dec 7, 2009 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Spot on SFK, I’d much rather legitimate sportsmen get promoted than old street fighters, that’s going back to the dark days of “human cockfighting” when the UFC was almost banned. I want to see proper athletes compete not brawlers.

TKK, I’m only watching Kimbo fight relevant competition, if I’m going to watch a freakshow then it has to be entertaining and that fight didn’t entertain me at all. I don’t watch the UFC to see freakshows promoted as serious fights, if they’re going to do it then at least make it a spectacle like the Japanese and don’t promote fighters that the boss publically said sucked on numerous occasions only to change his mind once he signed him up.

by David W-S on Dec 7, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately I Agree...

I agree with David W-S, but to a certain extent. I was watching it with my family for the first time ever. Including with two uncles that have never watched it before up in Woodbridge Ontario. I had to explain to them that UFC fights are not always like that. And these two guys are heavy with more muscles so they are more likely to get tired. The only that saved it was Mark Bocek who trains in Woodbridge and he won his fight. So that made some people happy even though they never seen him in their life. But, I find myself sticking up for MMA more often now. I hope we can put some good fights together.

by OptimusInteger on Dec 7, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I vote for Hypocritical Sideshow

It’ll give the message boards something to complain about

by Mark C on Dec 6, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

uhoh@houstonisfired.com

If Dana is mentioning Houston in the same sentence as Kalib Starnes then he’s done. I don’t see Dana bringing Houston back after that performance last night. Houston could have knocked him out if he would have stood toe to toe with him and just brawled but Houston couldn’t risk another loss so instead he implemented a game plan that cost him the fight and most likely his job.

by jimmy_dean on Dec 6, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

That was fucking terrible!

Either I underestimated Kimbo badly, or I went the other way with Houston. I still think the decision was bullshit(30-27, really?), but Houston looked like shit.

Hadoken!!

by Brizzle T on Dec 6, 2009 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Ya I commented on that on the other thread

Sorta the lost story in this was despite the shitty performance by Houston, under the round system I think he won 1 and 3 and therefore the fight. I’d like to see the justification for giving Kimbo round 1

"If you're not a fan of Hulk Hogan, you're not a fan of entertainment in sports"
--Goldberg.
"Kimbo is dominating on the ground"--Rogan
"Kimbo throws that jab to finish fights"--Goldberg

by frosnt1 on Dec 6, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Not positive, but that judge may have scored it 10-10, 10-8, 10-9 for KS. Pretty reasonable IMO

by DH. on Dec 6, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Judges may punish running away, even if technically Houston landed more strikes. Ineffective leg kicks, but strikes nonetheless.

Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

by P-Dub on Dec 6, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he totally out-stike Kimbo. Another proof that the 10 pts must system need to go.

by Alpha Male on Dec 6, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Octagon Control

You guys need to realize one of the factors for the judges is ‘Octagon Control’.

Think about that, and then HA’s game plan.

Whatever it takes?

by JoMilla on Dec 7, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe,

but I don’t see how you could give round 1 to Kimbo. He literally landed almost nothing the entire round. Round 3 was close but I’d still give it to Houston for landing the more effective damage with the leg kick knockdown.

Horrible fight though and they both should not be in the UFC

"If you're not a fan of Hulk Hogan, you're not a fan of entertainment in sports"
--Goldberg.
"Kimbo is dominating on the ground"--Rogan
"Kimbo throws that jab to finish fights"--Goldberg

by frosnt1 on Dec 6, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Both of them shouldn’t be in the UFC. Put Kimbo against anyone with decent jits at 205 = loss every time. Someone who has great leg kicks would also cut Kimbo down as he is way too tentative…..all hype, no true MMA skills. He’d be exploited in every fight…..and don’t forget that Seth took care of him after he was ousted from the UFC.

Great guy – not enough talent yet. Hope he continues to train but I can’t see a win in the foreseeable future unless it is a standup guy.

by hairybumcrack on Dec 6, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

No No

first round was 10-10 and last round was clearly going to Kimbo, he landed the better cleaner shots and secured a takedown and it doesn’t matter cause Kimbo won 10-8 in the 2nd.
I wanted Kimbo to literally kick Houston’s head off, the old man Houston needs to retire, I liked him and respected him before this fight because he always left it all in the Octagon, now not so much.

by RoBerto. on Dec 6, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Kimbo actually showed some potential too.

Also consider the fact that many UFC LHW’s standup game is totally overrated. Kimbo would be one of the better boxers, He’d Knock guys like Jardine out in a second.

by RoBerto. on Dec 6, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahahhahahaha

Ya that’s likely….

"If you're not a fan of Hulk Hogan, you're not a fan of entertainment in sports"
--Goldberg.
"Kimbo is dominating on the ground"--Rogan
"Kimbo throws that jab to finish fights"--Goldberg

by frosnt1 on Dec 6, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear to God

Roberto, your stock with me on this website is a complete rollercoaster. Just as soon as I start to really come to like and respect many of your posts you come out with something like this gem and the huge vertical drop.

"If you're not a fan of Hulk Hogan, you're not a fan of entertainment in sports"
--Goldberg.
"Kimbo is dominating on the ground"--Rogan
"Kimbo throws that jab to finish fights"--Goldberg

by frosnt1 on Dec 6, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright.

Im just so pissed off today, It’s Maz fault. I lost too much money on his call in the Hamill/Jones fight.

Kimbo would KO Jardine, if that was what u were laughing at, not in a second but the point is that it would end with a KO. He’d have a good shot against alot of guys standing, true story.

by RoBerto. on Dec 6, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure he stays up late at night wondering how to get into your good graces again.

by soadtrails on Dec 6, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the better boxers?

Like somebody who packs stuff into boxes? The dog breed? Surely you don’t mean pugilist.

Hadoken!!

by Brizzle T on Dec 6, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Round 1 was horrendous, I only gave it to Houston because I don’t remember Kimbo throwing anything, as bad as Houston’s side step movement and leg kicks were it had to score more than standing still looking at your opponent. Round 3 had to go to Houston as well as he landed the most effective strikes, though I have no idea why he stood there waiting for Kimbo to get back to his feet instead of trying to finish his clearly hurt opponent. Round 2 was a 10-8 to Kimbo as he dominated the round and almost finished Houston, so I’d have had it as a draw then cut them both. Ratings or not I never want to see a fight that terrible again, neither are anywhere close to UFC level.

by David W-S on Dec 6, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I would still score round 1 a draw, as Houston's kicks had no intentions of hurting Kimbo.

10-10 rounds has to be scored in the UFC, it makes scoring easier and more fair to the fighters. nothing happened in round 1 and therefore the round should be scored a draw. I also suggest you look at the 3rd round again if you want to see it again, ‘cause Houston didn’t land anything and Kimbo answered with better shots every time he came in at Kimbo, he finally secured the round with the takedown as Houston had nothing to offer from the bottom.

by RoBerto. on Dec 6, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn't it a "must" system....

…..meaning that Round 1 couldn’t have been a draw?

by TheIlluminati on Dec 6, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No, the 10-point must system in MMA does allow for rounds to be ruled a 10-10 draw. The “must” is only that the winner of the round must get 10 points, w/ the loser getting 9 or less. If a judge considers a round even, he is allowed to score it 10-10.

by Hardcase on Dec 6, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that 10-10 rounds should be scored when nothing happens, they do that in boxing if the round is too close to call or neither fighter engages. Neither of them deserved to win the round in all honestly, it was eye bleeding stuff.

Houston landed a nice leg kick that dropped Kimbo in the third then inexplicably stood and watched him get up and the punch he landed at the end hurt Kimbo, other than that he didn’t land anything noteworthy in the whole fight. Neither of them deserved the win in my opinion, at times they were as bad as each other.

by David W-S on Dec 7, 2009 6:46 AM EST up reply actions  

... for agression

Brizzle T — Very likely, that judge called all three for Kimbo because he was generally more aggressive. Houston through a few weak kicks in the first round, but he was running the whole time… not countering. Kimbo pressed forward, essentially stalking Houston. I know it sound like a silly distinction, but it matters. Weak kicks during non-countering retreats don’t count for much. Meanwhile, Kimbo kept stalking. I’m talking about R1, by the way.

by MMACrossfire on Dec 7, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Kimbo Slice

I think its funny that no one seems to give credit where credit is due Im not a slice fan but I do recognize someone trying to get better at a sport no one believes he has a shot in. American top team is one of the top gyms in the country. Credit slice for going there and realize he actually cares enough not to go into his first fight and get completly brutalized ….. he wont last long we all know that 2 more fights one outside contender and he is out the door and we can all rest easy again that is until bobby lashley comes to the ufc then we will be sending in the clowns again for another dana white circus

by KazDragon on Dec 6, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

Except Lashley is about 1000x times better than Kimbo.

"If you're not a fan of Hulk Hogan, you're not a fan of entertainment in sports"
--Goldberg.
"Kimbo is dominating on the ground"--Rogan
"Kimbo throws that jab to finish fights"--Goldberg

by frosnt1 on Dec 6, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

More like 1.5x better, if that.

Lashley has size and wrestling, which makes him a little better. But he’s not fighting in the UFC, so it’s a moot point.

by MMACrossfire on Dec 7, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

dana may not owe kimbo an apology

but he should aplogize to the rest of us cause that fight sucked

by panthro on Dec 6, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

Really? I thought it was pretty entertaining, especially that second round.

by goodbones on Dec 6, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Spot on

He threw my man Andy under the bus and disrespected him by apologising for his performance against Leites, so he should apologise for that awful fight last night.

by David W-S on Dec 6, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

FIXED

I’ve never believed in fights being fixed until I saw that so-called fight last night. Just watch any of Houston’s previous fights and you’ll see that he’s holding back against Kimbo. I know Houston said that he’s gonna make Kimbo “be a MMA fighter” but this was bullshit. Like I said, I’ve never been the type of fan to believe in fixed fights but this one made me a believer.

by 8008135 on Dec 6, 2009 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

I AGREE!

Contrived is the word. There was a plan made and it was executed. The UFCs plan is to generate hype ala Kimbo and Tito these days.

That wasn’t a fight…It was an exhibition.

When your opponent does such a shitty job, you are bound to look good.

by DubNub on Dec 6, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You two are morons.

by goodbones on Dec 6, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I just think....

Houston was terrified to lose and with his corner being just as scared and they thought Kimbo would gas and be more affected by the leg strikes…That was not Houston but not becuase somebody paid him to do it, Dana is not that kind of guy, UFC is huge with or without Kimbo and has done fine without him, especially at 205, where there plenty of fighters, Dana makes more money by being legit, then fixing fights, but like the Machida vs Shogun fight, sometimes fear of losing is too great.

by Robert(1) on Dec 6, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Robert(1) what about the Shogun vs Machida fight?

You’re not saying Shogun was afraid to lose are you? Cause he was the fighter taking the center, and landing more strikes in the fight. I think Houston is getting old and has now realized that he can be KO’d and was afraid that it would happen again, I also think he’s been watching too many Machida videos and thought he was a Karate specialist.

by RoBerto. on Dec 6, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Machida has never side stepped around the octagon in circles for a round

I know that you’re not a fan RoB but you can’t seriously compare that pathetic display from Houston to Machida. Lyoto actually thinks about what he’s doing and looks to avoid taking damage, whilst picking his shots with his superior speed and timing. Houston wandered around in circles throwing the weakest leg kicks that I’ve ever seen, only one had any sort of power and that dropped Kimbo then he just stood there and waited for him to get back up. He doesn’t compare in any way, shape or form to Machida.

by David W-S on Dec 6, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That wasn't a comparison, but a point to prove how pathetic Houston for thinking he was doing good.

Lyoto is great at what he does and his strategy is great, but it takes skill it’s not like everybody can do what he does. I think Houston thought he had the skills to be as “elusive” and effective on the outside as Machida. Typical for a guy with little talent or feel for the game to just change and try to play a game he just learned in his latest training camp. just like Kenny Florian although he’s at a higher level, he fell in love with a gameplan against BJ, thing was that he didn’t have the tools at all to be effective.

by RoBerto. on Dec 6, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think his standup coach told him that you should circle and not move straight backwards when you strike. So Houston not being the smartest and most gifted fighter thought he was doing good by circling throuch the whole fight, throwing girl kicks.

by RoBerto. on Dec 6, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Good points RoB, maybe Houston watched one tape of Lyoto and decided “I can do that”, honestly he should feel embarrassed by that display.

Kenny’s gameplan was a good way to beat BJ, unfortunately for Kenny it wasn’t a good way for him to beat BJ as he’s too small and not a good enough wrestler to wear out BJ in the clinch and take him down. His camp tried to copy off GSP’s strategy but ignored the fact that GSP is a freak athlete and a much bigger and better fighter than Kenny.

by David W-S on Dec 7, 2009 6:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Not saying that at all....

Houston should be thrown out of the UFC and he should pay for my next PPV on the 12th!!!! Machida is a soild top 5 fighter

by Robert(1) on Dec 7, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought the fight was good(Shogun vs Machida)

but that’s only becuase I like both guys and was excited for the match up but it’s not like I’m going to watch the fight again again becuase it was fun watch…..if they were not 2 of the best in the world, i would have stepped out to use the rest room, Houston thought he was Machida

by Robert(1) on Dec 7, 2009 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Wild aggression....

….has gotten Houston dropped like a bad habit in his last few fights before this one. Change was the right thing to do.

That said, he took it waaaaaaay too far.

by TheIlluminati on Dec 6, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmmmm

well either houston was really scared..or maybe he was paid off to look like an idiot and dance in a circle for 3 minutes..i dunno..kimbo really has to stay at a lower weight to have any chance..i think like kaz said above..couple more fights outta kimbo and he is done..but i have gained some respect for his efforts..and i wish i could hear what the hell he was saying to houston when he was sick of the circling..

by sarah- on Dec 6, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

Kimbo stepped up and fought and Houston ran! Good job Kimbo and great slams.
Dana doesn’t owe anybody apologies because Kimbo stepped up, fought and WON!

by Sofa-King-Toasty on Dec 6, 2009 12:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

My Thought

Overall, Kimbo has always had talent, we all tuned in to his youtube video’s, Bas took him under his wing, Elite XC gave him a shot, UFC saw his potential, ATT thought he had enough talent worth their while to train him, & by his own admission he still has to mature in this sport greatly, to conclude I don’t hate on those that strive to be better….if he keeps up this pattern his skill has no choice but to improve…..

by The Tale Of The Tape on Dec 6, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

Legitamate?

He lost during TUF and beat a guy that doesn’t belong in the UFC. Dana is such a hypocrite. Lets see if he protects Kimbo like the Shaws did.

@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner

by _Felix_ on Dec 6, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Kimbo

Just looked old to me and Houston looked timid…. Houston shouldve pounced when Kimbo went down on that leg kick, He was obviously hurt. But Kimbo easily won the fight.

Goooooo-mez!

by Drew C on Dec 6, 2009 2:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

But that would involve....

…..getting on the ground. Houston handles himself on the mat about as well as a fish in a sand dune.

by TheIlluminati on Dec 6, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's hilarious how many people

were saying that Kimbo would get destroyed, KO’d, kicked to death, etc. by Alexander because he’s so much faster and deadlier than Kimbo.

You bought into your own hype.

I think Houston was genuinely scared of Kimbo. You could hear it in his voice in all the interviews leading up to the fight.

by goodbones on Dec 6, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

I must say that after watching..

The fight i was impressed with Kimbo, I thought after watching the pre fight open training sessions and pre fight interviews that Kimbo didn’t have it in him but i was wrong and fair fucks to Kimbo for a fairly entertaining fight and an awsome slam. No matter what, he’s entertaining and before i knew it i was rooting for him and shouting at the tele with my wife “come on Kimbo” after that slam. Why he never choked out Houston when he had the chance i’ll never know but maybe after a few more months of serious training he might shock us again, can’t wait to be honest to see him fight again. Seems like just an average dude living the dream and whether he’s hype or just for show or whatever i must say i’ll probably be rooting for him in his next fight again to be honest, unless it’s against Cro Cop of course!!

I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!

by tkkpal on Dec 6, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Good post tkkpal

I totally agree. I loved that slam. It was the highlight of the night. I can’t wait to see what Kimbo does next.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 6, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst fight ever!

I genuinely can’t think of many worse fights that I’ve seen in the UFC. Alexander’s gameplan wasn’t bad, don’t know why people keep saying that. His delivery on the other hand, was just awful!

I don’t think I’ve seen worse kicks before, no more than a gentle playful tap, from the front leg, that’s not gonna do anything.

I thought Kimbo was just as poor, didn’t do a thing for most of the fight. One awesome throw and that’s it. He definitely doesn’t deserve to be in the UFC, there’s many many much better fighters.

Really hope we see more of brendan, he’d be a good addition to the heavyweight division. As would the guy who’s name I’ve suddenly forgotten from London, he was pretty impressive last night

by kevan321 on Dec 6, 2009 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

I agree completely on Kimbo-Houston, leg kicking a guy with arthritic knees who won’t get them treated is a smart strategy, wandering around in circles and occassionally tapping the leg was a terrible execution of the gameplan. Neither should be on any major MMA card, nevermind on a televised UFC show.

McSweeney’s the Cockney. He has surprised me, I didn’t think he’d be that good as he has a mediocre record and has been beaten by other failed British exports like Grove and Al-Turk but made a very wise career choice in training with Greg Jackson and has the potential to be a decent HW. He needs to stop getting cocky with his hands though as his showboating has cost him, including in the Nelson fight, and his cardio needs to improve. He’s one of the few of the TUF 10 cast with a decent future in the sport.

by David W-S on Dec 6, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Not impressed with McSweeney at all

I don’t like a thing about the guy.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 6, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't like..

MacSweeney one bit, he’s a cocky fool with no real power, and nothing really to be cocky about!! His stand up had improved a bit but nothing he does from now on will make me like him anyway cause he just comes across as a dick. Titties on the other hand seems like an alright guy, so was sorry to see him lose.

I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!

by tkkpal on Dec 6, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Fantasy Brawls

Kimbo Slice vs James Irvin
Kimbo Slice vs Forrest Griffin

Either One would be awesome for Kimbos Next fight

by Grzegorz on Dec 6, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

Kimbo won't be fighting anyone with a ranking higher than 30th.

So forget Forrest, James Irvin, maybe.

Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.

by jay. on Dec 6, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Irvin’s a MW now and Forrest only wants big fights with big names, Kimbo may be a big name but he’s ranked very low.

by David W-S on Dec 6, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

What was with

Kimbo’s chest hair?

Goooooo-mez!

by Drew C on Dec 6, 2009 10:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He shaves it differently..

every now and again. Kinda his thing now,alond with the beard and hair cut.

I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!

by tkkpal on Dec 7, 2009 4:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Kalib Starnes Strategy

Haha, Dana is right. That was the Kalib Starnes strategy. I don’t know who think they can win like that. Something that still hasn’t developed too much in MMA is defense. Blocking, parrying, countering and head movement (docking and dodging). I know it’s harder than in boxing because of the smaller gloves but I know it can be done, because I’ve see Anderson and Rampage do it a few times. But yeah I feel for both of these guys. I hope they bring Houston back for at least one more. He was so exciting when he came into the UFC hope he can get some of it back.

by OptimusInteger on Dec 7, 2009 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

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