Jon "Bones" Jones illegal elbows on Matt Hamill during their TUF 10 Finale bout. Jones and NSAC executive director Keith Kizer talk about the infraction in more detail right here.
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too many damn rules! Watch the back of the head, no kneeing or kicking a downed opponent, no downward elbows. This is fighting for God’s sake not ballet.
+1.
I agree there are too many fouls. The 12-6 rule needs to go, knees on the ground need to be legal and we need a uniform definition of the back of the head.
mowahk/ headphones
your technically not allowed to hit the part of the head that is covered by a mohawk (in the back) or headphones (which i dont really get)
to the death, georges.
I’m pretty sure they did away with the “behind the headphones” definition. Although, I’m not sure that was ever an official definition. Some refs said that’s what they consider the back of the head, but I’ve never seen it in writing that the back of the head was the entire area behind the ears all the way up to the crown.
“The back of the head is considered the direct center of the head with 1’ inch of tolerance to either side.”
http://boxing.nv.gov/aspnet_client/docs/MMA%20RULES%20Expained.pdf
Jones vs Vera...
or Jones vs. A. Silva. I know the latter probably won’t happen this soon but could you imagine the standup between them? Bones impressed the hell out of me that’s for sure.
by HappyLittleTreez on Dec 6, 2009 9:46 AM EST reply actions
I think Vera would be a good fight for him
I don’t understand why it was a dq, as far as I understand it, Hamill couldn’t continue because his shoulder had popped and he was bleeding into his eyes, those elbows certainly didn’t dislocate his shoulder and he was already bleeding when they landed, those elbows weren’t what stopped Hamill, it was the beating he took in the minutes previous to those elbows that stopped him. I don’t get why it went from a point deduction to a dq.
In the name of the Fedor, the Anderson and the GSP, Amen.
by Spinning Fat Kick on Dec 7, 2009 4:04 AM EST up reply actions
he derseve the dq
but i like how he takes it as a man and knows it well only make him better
BS all the way!!!!!!!
How many times do fights get stopped briefly because of a knee to the groin/downed opponent or a finger in the eye. Look at the Franklin Henderson fight, it almost needed to be stopped because of cuts caused by illegal headbutts, but Hendo was never in fear of being DQ’D. Then he gets the decision in a fight many think he lost. I think Bones got burned worse than anyone in the UFC has been before. It bugs that me that Matt gets special treatment because he cant hear, anyone else and this fight would not have been stopped. Hamill should not have been in there with Bones to start with, I knew this fight would be some sort of sideshow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
em what?
hasn’t really had special treatment in anyway so their is no point in saying it. The dude was receiving illiegal elbows and couldn’t continue, to me thats a justified DQ.
couldn't continue die to a shoulder injury
and his face was wrecked by the many unanswered shots before the 2 elbows.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Terrible
Not the DQ, but the mistake to throw the wrong kind of elbow. Bones is a beast and if he throws from a different angle or just a forearm shiver, we’re talking about how awesome he is and how he should fight for the title in a few fights.
Hadoken!!
why oh why
was it not stopped about 35 seconds earlier..he was winning and pounding the piss outta hamill and his shoulder was done by then too..sure jones did an illegal move only because the ref was not stopping a fight that was obviously over..
ones did an illegal move only because.....
so shitty reffing justifies illegal blows now
Shitty reffing....
….allowed that illegal elbow to happen.
Hammill was done long before the 12-6 got him. The longer a flurry like that goes on, the better the odds that you’re going to have an accidental elbow, eye gouge, something to the back of the head, etc.
by TheIlluminati on Dec 6, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
umm...what?
did you say that bad reffing opens the door to illegal strikes? that doesn’t even make sense. why are we excusing jones for something he is taking full responsibility fo?
formerly JB, trying to figure out this whole new SB deal. oh, and another thing; i'm not impressed by your performance.
One word... Mazzagatti
That clown should have stopped it earlier.
Shouldn't have been stopped.
You don’t stop the fight til the guy is no longer defending himself, hammill was conscious and defending himself! Jones threw an illegal move and he got DQ’d. Only sucks for him to lose his Undefeated streak though, you know when Dana sets up the next fight he’ll treat it like a win.
It shouldn’t have been stopped? hamill was making NO attempt to reverse his position, why? because his shoulder was dislocated. Regardless if he is dodging some of the blows there was still a few minutes left, what did you want? to see hamill beaten even worse?
by TheBiggertheyare... on Dec 6, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
whatever
I was yelling 20 seconds earlier fight shouldve been stopped, Bones was looking at ref to stop fight. (kinda a rookie move) but what else do you do, he had been punching him in the face for a minute. with that said, it was a illegal elbow. doesnt matter bones is better fighter. this doesnt change anything, he will be fighting for a title before this time next year.
what else do you do?
you keep composure, keep the mount and keep landing legal strikes until the ref stops the fight. that’s what you do. if you have a submission, you hold it until the ref steps in. i’m not even a pro fighter and i know this.
formerly JB, trying to figure out this whole new SB deal. oh, and another thing; i'm not impressed by your performance.
jones cost himself the fight. mazigotti just followed the rules and hammil just got a beating
i feel for all three of them. mazigotti couldn’t have called it any better, but i bet hammil wished he called it sooner.
by Conan the Barbarian on Dec 7, 2009 2:29 AM EST reply actions
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