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FieLDS Dynamite!! photos gallery from Dec. 31 Saitama event (Pic)

Kazuyuki Fujita's near-death experience at the knees of Alistair Overeem...

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Masato retires on top (with a little help from Any Souwer) after the jump.

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Check out more photos from the Dynamite!! gallery here.

For live results and recap click here and here.

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Until you find actual proof I would say thats unfair to assume he is on roids.

by AintNoSunshine on Dec 31, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

woops.......compared to Mir that did it in just 4 months.

Try to go to the gym and lifting weights a little. You’ll see that you can get way bigger in 4 years of constant training.

by Alpha Male. on Jan 1, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

do you lift weights with ur head?

excessive hgh use causes an elongated jawbone and an out of proportion head.look how big his head is now imagine what its gonna be like whan he loses his muscle mass.at least tito will feel good!! if anyone really thinks what overoids has done is natural they are idiots!!

by scott1 on Jan 1, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

you are an idiots to think that HGH makes growing your head. Find me a medical proof that excessive hgh use causes an elongated jawbone for fun.

It’s normal to make water retention while packing weights that’s what explain the look that his head is bigger and in fact it isn’t bigger than before when he was at 205. You’re an idiot I got big w/o roiding and it’s very possible to do it w/o the roids.

by Alpha Male. on Jan 1, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

medical fact that ur skullstructure grows..

while usin hgh along with an elongated jaw and gaps coming between all the teeth.water retention normal? u get some while using creatine but not massive amounts.water retention is caused by excessive amoutns of estrogen whick are abundant in …wait for it..STEROIDS!!!!!

by scott1 on Jan 1, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep speculate w/o proof I like it!

Seriously HGH is not a type of AAS, do a search man. Plus you might wanna steer clear of HGH, especially when you’re still young.
HGH aren’tt cheap and I doubt that he could afford it.

by Alpha Male. on Jan 1, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i know its not a anaolic..

its a naturally occuring hormone secreted from the pituitary gland.but excessive amounts will still cause retention and he could be stacking it with something else.personally i dont give 2 shoots but with him not willing to fight in the us u work it out.

by scott1 on Jan 1, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but as you said so does the creatine (for the retention) so what's the point?

I wouldn’t lose my time to constantly defend this guy if it was clear to me that he’s a cheater. I know that what he did is very probable to achieved w/o roiding. I know that you’ve been here for a long time scott and that’s why I feel that you deserve to know the other probabilities on this matter. The strikeforce thing was b/c he didn’t had a contract before May last year, that’s why he didn’t fought for a defence of his title before. He was suppose to fight last summer, but he got injured .As everyone bind by their contract to an organization, he got to finish his contract in the other orgs in question also. That’s why he’s fighting in K-1 and other show in between his next fight in strikeforce. He doesn’t have the choice, he signed with them before strikeforce. Also Coker said that if Alistair would had been on the April show it would have been against someone else than Fedor and probably not for his title too. So it’s not a big deal that he’s only coming in May or June, that way we’re sure to get him against Fedor for the title.

by Alpha Male. on Jan 1, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Burden of Proof

Unfortunately the burdern of proof is the responsibility of the accuser and in the case of Alistair Overeem we cannot get our hands on the evidence we need to solidify the truth. Circumstantially we can base our assumptions on a few simple facts. Overeem was alot smaller a few short years ago. Overeem is alot bigger than he was a few short weeks ago. Alistair Overeem is the Strikeforce heavy weight champion but he will not defend his title as it will require him to fight in the United States. Overeem will, however, fight for any other promotion in any country that does not have doping policies. Again… I hate to speculate but I’m just sayin. If it walks like a duck?

by Bruce Leroy on Dec 31, 2009 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Hey guys

I hate speculation, but bear with me for a minute while I speculate.

"Maybe Mur is going through menopause and is retaining water"---Ubernoober

by soadtrails on Dec 31, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Point Well Taken.

However, we will find out when he comes to Strikeforce. Plus his body change is nothing overly abnormal. Sure in a seemingly small time frame he has gotten huge but thats not unheard of. Look the serious issue here isnt whether Alistair juices. You guys have no idea the severity of steroids in MMA. I would say we arent as bad as MLB but were definitely at the level if not worse then the NFL.

by AintNoSunshine on Dec 31, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Hes a kid in a candy store..

but ya he will be drug tested pretty much anywhere else other than japan… so well see how he responds

by Jesse13 on Dec 31, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

true

true look at jake shields. His best wins are mayham miller and paul daily. Compare to the ufc ww champ who has wins over BJ Penn twice, Matt Hughes twice, John Fitch, Thiago Alves, Frank Trigg, Karo Parsinippian, Sean Sherk, Josh Koscheck and Matt Serra.

by hatteras on Dec 31, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

What does Shields have to do with anything?

Of course GSP has a better record, he should do to be the best WW of all time and one of the best MMAsts p4p of all time. Shields has nothing to do with Overroids, he doesn’t avoid defending his title and he doesn’t face handpicked opponents in Japan or Holland. Every thread seems to be an excuse for people to bitch about Shields.

"Anderson Silva is the best fighter on the planet...any Anderson Silva fight that is on, people should be buying that PPV, not because he’s my fighter but you know what, he to me is like the Muhammad Ali of MMA...the UFC has been around since 1993, nobody (else) has 10 consecutive wins in the UFC. Anderson has had 10 fights in the UFC, only 1 has ever gone to a decision."

Ed Soares on why Andy is the best fighter in the world

by David W-S on Jan 1, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t it Karo Parapillpoppian?

"Maybe Mur is going through menopause and is retaining water"---Ubernoober

by soadtrails on Jan 2, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

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