Frank Mir: Brock Lesnar may need to be stripped of the UFC heavyweight title
by Jesse Holland on Dec 24, 2009 11:16 AM EST
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"If (Brock Lesnar) is going to be out for that long, should he even hold on to the belt at all? The interim title works if a champion is not able to defend his belt within a year-long period, you know he's going to be out eight, nine months, you make the interim belt than he comes back after a year but as of now his last fight was in July. If he's out a year from today's date that's a year and a half and at that point, I don't think you can hold the belt ransom. They gave me about a year when I had my injury so I've been on that side of the coin and I was more than happy to relinquish the belt because I felt kind of selfish that I really couldn't do anything with it. I don't how successful he's going to be coming back. That's going to be a question over his head for a while. It wasn't like he was a slick, technical fighter to begin with. A lot of his style went upon his brute power and strength. If Brock Lesnar is unable to put on the same kind of size as he had before ... I don't think he's going to be very successful as a fighter at 245."
Former UFC Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir understands the difficulty in trying to come back from a devastating physical impairment as he talks about the slow road to recovery for the ailing Brock Lesnar. Mir was stripped of his division crown after 14 months on the sidelines thanks to a motorcycle accident that shattered his leg and tore the ligaments in his knee. There is also the question of how well Lesnar will be able to rebuild his mass after having intestinal trouble in a weight class that gets bigger by the month. Should Lesnar turn in his belt? Or will we see him much sooner than everyone thinks?
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to be the man you have to beat the man
holding the belt ransom is ridiculous…its not like Brock asked to get sick…no interim is needed imo until we get an accurate prognosis on his return to the cage
by McArthur... on Dec 24, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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yeah, but what mir said is true.. if the rest of the divison has to wait over a year, it must be stripped..
by stinky~fingers on Dec 24, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
the only thing that worries me
is putting a specific time line on his return…I’d hate to see him stripped after a year, only to return after 14-15 months
by McArthur... on Dec 24, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
That doesn’t matter. Everyone knows that the interim belt won’t mean shit until someone actually beats Brock, and he’ll truck anyone in his way to get his belt back.
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
A Year
If thats what the UFC gave Mir when he got hurt, that how long they shoudl give Lesnar… STRIP HIM!!!!
by PHISH NATION on Dec 24, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
yep its only fair
A year’s a year. If that’s what they give Mir, nice of them to be consistent and do the same to Brock. Unless he’s going to be back in August or something, then a month isn’t a big deal. But I mean that’s still 8 mos away. Fair enough. Tons of time.
Man that’s like 50 UFC PPV’s lol.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They gave Randy a year and three months
And he was trying to fight for another company, as well as trying to sue Zuffa. Do you really think Dana is going to strip the title from his money maker?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Champ clause
With Randy it was different. The timeline of his contract had expired and the only way zuffa could keep him under contract was the championship clause. If they would have stripped the title, we would have gotten to see Randy vs fedor.
by James S. on Dec 24, 2009 5:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
Because it creates drama. And that is what Dana White is really about.
Get over it.
by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Dec 24, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Not stripping Brock, then having him fight whoever holds the paper title
will be a lot more drama. Plus, do you think Brock comes back and fights anyone but the champ? Taking the title away is pointless, unless Brock ends up needing/wanting a warm up fight when he gets back.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
You can't make that comparison
Zuffa and the UFC HAD to keep the title with Randy. Stripping him of the belt would have played in Randy’s favour and Randy would have won the lawsuit. Using Randy as a precedent is not accurate when comparing to injured fighters.
Mir feeling selfish?''' 'nah'
Mir’s got his belt pulled 11 mths after his injury and didn’t comeback until mth 17… Brock pulled out Nov 15… Brocks got unti roughly October… so take it like a man Mir’’ i totally self-absorbed pruning peacock… and Brock’s a brainless meathead AND I’m going be watching all their fights!…ah’ sad sign of a morally declining western society… ’’’Sigh’’
i really doubt anyone will read this but the difference between mir and lesnar was mir broke contract and was on a motorcycle when he was injured which is a no no according to ufc contracts, and most major sporting orgs, brock got sick.. sure frank would be right to say this but in all honesty who deserves a clear cut shot at brock anyway? mir just got demolished by him, carwin was getting dominated by GG til he landed a good one, nog looked like hell against mir, and cain v showed he has holes to fill in his game, if i was any of them i wouldnt wanna fight brock til i fill all holes in my game, the only man i see that could handle brock is nog and hes coming off another staph infection so lets let him get another good one in and make sure hes 200% healthy
by randy murders on Dec 25, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutley correct on all accounts
See, someone did read it.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
God that I hate that no good, irrelevant prick!
by Alpha Male. on Dec 24, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Same here
Frank Mir has proven what an evil piece of shit he is with his comments on Lesnar after his illness. I hope Carwin knocks his head off.
"Anderson Silva is the best fighter on the planet...any Anderson Silva fight that is on, people should be buying that PPV, not because he’s my fighter but you know what, he to me is like the Muhammad Ali of MMA...the UFC has been around since 1993, nobody (else) has 10 consecutive wins in the UFC. Anderson has had 10 fights in the UFC, only 1 has ever gone to a decision."
Ed Soares on why Andy is the best fighter in the world
get as worked up as you want
Mir has said nothing wrong here. You may get mad cause he isn’t tongue in cheek just for ppl online who heart Lesnar. But, that’s not his job. He didn’t call him a loser. No swears. Nothing. Just his opinion, that happens to be very realistic.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Whats also realistic is that Mir can't get Lesnar out of his head.
The bitterness he has from being worked twice by a less experienced fighter shows every time he talks about Lesnar.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
They have to hold an imterim title fight before Brock is ready to come back anyway
Who’s to say Mir will even win that fight. Seems he’s sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong(yet).
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
He also just admitted all his training has been for nothing
Seeing as how he can’t beat a dude with no skills. Everybody in the world over 290 pounds can whoop Mir’s ass?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
couldn't have said it better mexi.
You can tell it eats at him each and every time he mentions Brocks name.
pwilson
bitterness
Of lesnar fans shows as well. No what has no bitterness to it, as it has no conscience?
The record books.
1 & 1.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In the history books they are tied
And people fifty years from now will be excused for their ignorance in thinking Brock and Mir are even. You have no excuse.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Franks face: 0-2
Frank “The Fake Champ” Mir lost the one that mattered.
That is all.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
By Stripping the title, it is the only way..
That Frank Mir gets the title back around his waist as long as Brock is around. He will never beat Brock and I look foward to him getting hammerfisted to ground beef once again….
Totally agree!
I think it’s amazing how this fucktard beat a half alive Nog and an over-rated Kongo so now he thinks he can whoop Fedor, Brock, and anyone else who stands to challenge him. Good God what’s this dudes problem!?!? I really hope somehow he beats Carwin so Brock can comeback and whoop his cocky ass worse then he did in their last fight.
LOL
Interviewer: “So there has been talk of an interim title since Brock Lesnar has been sick. Any comment?”
Frank: “You irrelevant prick, don’t you know the man is sick?! Sick. Haven’t you ever been sick? We can’t talk about a man who is sick! You’re sick!”
Get over it.
by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Dec 24, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
~pw
i agree interim belt mean shit to most~ but it is still an accomplishment..
nonetheless~ a month ago mir was saying he wasn’t interested in the ufc making another interim belt. brockness is the champ no doubt, but if the guy can’t defend for over a year, they need to make a vacant title match and demote brock of his champ status.. no interim belt needed..
trust me, i wan’t to see the champ defend to see who the next title holder will be, but sometimes shit happens..
let’s just hope it doesn’t take brock too long to recover, because i agree with mir.. we can’t go over a year w/o a hw champ fight..
by stinky~fingers on Dec 24, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I feel the same way
The interim belt is a way to promote a championship caliber fight w/o the belt…. we know what it means and when/if the former champion comes back he can again fight for the title. no problem.. when Couture was gone, there was an interim belt and some good fights surrounding it, eventually Brock got it, and he’ll go after it again.
Time limits
Champions should have a certain time period that they have to defend their title within in order to retain that title. Maybe:
12 months or an interim title is created
18 months or u r stripped of ur title.
by C O R on Dec 25, 2009 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
MIR is a advertising genious
is everyone out there that stupid that they think mir simple runs his mouth just because he is an asshole. he is willing to be the villian because he knows that there r meatheads out there like every brock fan who will hear what he says and then feellike they need to go talk about him non stop. i just want to say thank you to all lesnar fans because your doing exactly what mir wants you to do and that is keep tal;king about him the more you talk the bigger his name gets lets just remeber that half of u dumbass lesnar fans only watch the UFC because u r into FAKE WRSETLING wwf wwe watever they call it u probably never even watched a ufc event before the brockness came here. true fans like me have been watching since the begining when there werer no weight classes or rounds or rules basically just 2 people in an octagon and u fight until somoen gets knocked out or taps so either learn wat your talking about or shut the fuck up because u r not MMA fans ur just lesnar fans and have no knowledge of the sport so shut up or keep talking and do what mir wants you to do THANKS AGAIN RETARDS
Yeah because every Brock fight needs a villain to make it exciting
Brock already is the villain, RETARD. Do you think Mir is doing this as schtick? He’s already trying to work up a fight between him and Brock? There may never be another fight between the two. Why would he be hyping a fight with a guy in the hospital. This isn’t wrestling enewkz86, he wasn’t just cutting a promo here. This is his feelings on Brock, and he sounds like a jealous little bitch right now. This isn’t fake, if you think it is, I suggest you go back to watching WWE. If Mir wanted Lesnar fans to talk about him, he would beat the crap out of Carwin. Because if he loses focus on the fight he is actually in, he’s going to get knocked out. Then he won’t have to worry about selling a fight.
You’re either 13 or mentally retarded to think this is to get a rise out of Brock fans. How has this helped him in the slightest? Taking the high road and keeping his mouth shut would have helped him. This helps him in no way at all. If anything this has caused more people to like Brock. Brock doesn’t look like such an ass now does he? Sure, he acted a fool. But that was in the midst of the biggest MMA show in the history of the UFC and North America. Mir can’t even keep his mouth shut 5 months and two fights later. Now who do you think the jackass is? Brock or Mir?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
ummmmm....
yea.. and I am sure Frank was asking to be hit by a car….
yea.. and I am sure Frank was asking to be hit by a car….this is sooooooo stupid, Santino Di Franco came back after BRAIN SURGERY, brock needs to take a big crap and be done with it, all that elk and bear this dude eats is poisoning his guts…. BUT, Brock is worth the wait.. If we need to wait for Lord Overeem for a decade to defend then Brock gets some patience from me..
by Greenthumbs on Dec 25, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Are you looking for another beating Frank? Because if you are you’re really going about it the right way. Brock will kick your ass at 200 pounds.
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
I found it and got in on it. Nice idea.
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
Idea of the year
Nice job, Mac.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
lesnar @ 200 gets destroyed by Mir @ 265
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
Do you have any hard evidence?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
the same amount as the previous poster who said the opposite in the 1st place.
Strong enough for me. Lol
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ooft
a little harsh likes, no need to say something liike that. not as if it effects ur life in anyway
what? hoping Lesnar dies? harsh
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it was.
Slight of words. I’m just having fun. I’m like cris angel up in this mutha.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You Know...
for someone who has been in a car accident and almost lost his life, has 12 children, etc… he sure talks alot shit as oppose to be appreciative of a second change in life and be more humble. But he walks around as if he’s Mr know it all and always has either an excuse or a solution. hence my comment STFU and let your actions speak for you, not your big mouth.
How many kids does Mir have?
12 ….What u say?
he doesnt know anything
You’re just venting cause Mir said what we all think, and its scary to the Brock fans. Have to be fair to everyone else. Happened to Couture, Mir, etc.
Sorry kiddies. Even has to happen to your heroes.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Couture was 15 months
It DIDN’T HAPPEN TO COUTURE.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Plus Mir was out for 20 months
Of course they had to strip the belt at some point. Were they suppose to hold the belt up for Mir? He’s nobody and half the division was better than him at that point.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
15? 13?
Lol 13 was just said above. Which was it? Are we guessing? Lol
Jay, I’m guessing you’re doing what I’m doing? Scrolling down and commenting on anti our fighter posts?
Lol well sir, I shall meet you at the bottom! Ha ha.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You are right, now back to the top and back down again.
And Mir was out for 20 months. He is lying in this interview. You shouldn’t just listen to people without finding out the truth.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
I like how Mir knocks Lesnar’s fighting ability stating that it’s basically all just size and strength. That’s horseshit IMO. A guy who is just all brawn will muscle you around and that is it. Brock has that size and stength advantage….yes…but couple that with some decent technique and that’s what makes him scary. He has tremendous skill in wresltling, I guess Frank doesn’t see that or doesn’t count that as a worthy skill. Brock has developed into a patient fighter, using his game plan as well as size, stength and skill. Is he the most skillful fighter? No, but he’s still very very new to the game. To say he is without skill is ignorant however.
"Maybe Mur is going through menopause and is retaining water"---Ubernoober
sub defence was awesome imo
size and strength isnt everything.i think mirs a tool but he a dangerous guy from his back and for a jj novice brocks control of mirs hips was awesome.it only takes a second for brock to position his weight wrong and mirs in with the cahance of a sweep or sub.people forget about that.
Did you notice how Brock put Mr. BJJ Black Belt Technique on his back, passed to half guard and pinned his arm so he could neither attack nor defend himself? Does that not count as technique?
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
it sure does...MMA has become a broad term...to say the HW champ in the UFC isn't a martial artist isn't accurate
he may not be well rounded, but he is the champ for now none-the-less
by McArthur... on Dec 24, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Technique is also....
Technique is also knowing ‘what not to do’… how to avoid certain scenerio’s, Brock understands what submissions Mir can go for and won’t give him the space to do it…. that’s plan A’’’ I’m assuming he now understands plan ‘B’ how to try to get out of ’em.
I don't like Brock...
But you have to give him credit where it’s due – if it was ONLY size and strength that got him where he is then Bob Sapp would have been champion a couple of years back…
That said I still want to see someone really hit Brock, Randy shook him and he’s hardly a KO artist, despite being champion I don’t think Brock’s been tested much in his short career.
He’sannihilated three really good fighters,including twomultiple-time champions. He’s been tested plenty. It’s just that even those guys weren’t good enough to do anything to him.
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
Ok,
when has someone really hit Brock hard? It’s not like his Machida-esque avoidance skills have saved him – just that no-ones actually managed to get any powerful shots in before being dragged to the floor. More of a statement about the UFC Heavyweights than his skills in my opinion. I actually think that Machida, A.Silva or Shogun etc would be much more of a test for him…
Really? A 5-time champ who dropped Tim Sylvia with one shot and beat his ass all over the ring for 5 rounds has no skill? A 2-time HW champ who KO’d Nog and decked the best striker in the division has no skill? Try again.
Brock currently is the best. I will not deny that. -- Daniel Worby
And you saw how impressive that 5-time champ's last outing was
I think the title says it all. Sort of like saying Fedor is the best of all time since he has won against former champs like Silva and Arlovski. I agree with Jimrod.
by hairybumcrack on Dec 26, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
everyone just loves to hate on mir
everyone isw just hating. mir is a beast and one of the most technical hw in the world. the only wekness that frank has is wrestling his strinkin in the past might have been weak now he is training with delegrate who is the best mua thia trainer on the face of the earth mir has by far the most dangerous jj skills possesd by a hw ever. the fact of the matter is the only reason brock won is because he is tremendously larger and heavier than mir. mir cut weight before there last fight hoping that lesnar would gas but he didnt last long enough. he now realized that he has to match weight with brock if they fight at the same weight mir wins every time because mir has superior skills in every aspect except for wrestling brock fans r retards if they knew anything they would tell the only reason he wins is because he shouldnt even be in that weight class fighting him if your 245 is like a welterweight fighting a light heavyweight he is just so extremely huge it isnt even fair and he only has averagewrestling
mir is a beast and one of the most technical hw in the world
he is training with delegrate who is the best mua thia trainer on the face of the earth mir has by far the most dangerous jj skills possesd by a hw ever.
the only reason brock won is because he is tremendously larger and heavier than mir.
mir cut weight before there last fight hoping that lesnar would gas but he didnt last long enough
he only has averagewrestling
lmao, OK move along fn clown!
I like how Mir knocks Lesnar’s fighting ability stating that it’s basically all just size and strength
Me too. I like that as well.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mir is so envious of Brock and so bitter that in both fights he got worked by a less experienced fighter.
No one even know how long Brock is going to be out, so his is just a hypothetical (“If, if , if”), or even just wishful thinking on Mir’s part. He just doesn’t want to be the 2x fake champ is all.
Weather Mir wants to admit it or not, Lesnar is in this guys head big time.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
how can anyone like this douche? I just dont get it!
I hate Randy, but I am sad that I never got to see him beatdown Mir. I would love to see Mir lose to a 40n something year old man!
Agreed
I don’t have a single good thing to say about Mir as a fighter or a person.
"Anderson Silva is the best fighter on the planet...any Anderson Silva fight that is on, people should be buying that PPV, not because he’s my fighter but you know what, he to me is like the Muhammad Ali of MMA...the UFC has been around since 1993, nobody (else) has 10 consecutive wins in the UFC. Anderson has had 10 fights in the UFC, only 1 has ever gone to a decision."
Ed Soares on why Andy is the best fighter in the world
mir
I like Mir and I hope he smashes Brock, or submits him, or anything. I would take Shane to Disneyland if he did it as well. I don’t care who does it, so long as somebody does. Mir is talented and you don’t have to admit it, but you better get used to it, cause he’s not going anywhere.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah Mir is a talented asshole. Great fighter and at the same time a doeche bag.
Many want him to fail because of who he is but there is no denying he is one of the best HW in the world today. If he gets past Carwin and NOG wins his fight against Cain mainy might get what they were wishing for because they believe a healthy NOG could beat Mir. My money would be on the asshole.
He's lying and you are too busy to look it up worby
He wasn’t out a year and why would the UFC hold the title, when the title holder isn’t even in the top 5 of the current division.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
catching up jay!
I’m wearing the bloody buttons off this blackberry and getting thumb cramps! Half way
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
MIR is so incredible
like i said before mir is far more technical meabning skilled for u retarded lesnar fans. evryone says mir is irrelevant or is awful or watever but obviously u dont remember when mir first cam into the ufc how he dominated everyone he fought and that was when he had no stand up skills he was just subbing person after person if he never had that accident and had to take 2 years off from training imagine how dominate he would be especially when u think that his leg and knee will never be exactly where it was before accident if u remember when it first happened they were saying he might never walk again and he cam back and is the top hw imo i cant wait till he fights brock again cuz now mir is putting on weight so as far as that goes they will be evenly matched but mir will far outclass lesnar in every other aspect because he is a fighter not a truck which is all lesnar is LONG LIVE THE REAL CHAMP FRANK MIR and fuck off all u haters MIR is smart he runs his mouth because he knows that brings in numbers just like sencer pratt people hate him but cant help but talk about him all the time like all you chumps
HaHa
I didn’t even read all of his posts. I couldn’t stop laughing. Who is this guy?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Did he just compare Frank Mir to Spencer Fucking Pratt???
Brock currently is the best. I will not deny that. -- Daniel Worby
who can't stop talking about Spencer Pratt?
I don"t know what this dude is talking about.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Pratt is some little fag off one of those WB series about spoiled Caifornia kids. They’re pretty much out now, and shows about super-awesome vampire kids are in. If our friend up above knows all this, my guess is he isn’t old enough to have been following MMA “since the beginning” as he claims.
Brock currently is the best. I will not deny that. -- Daniel Worby
he sounds bitter cuz they took his belt..
after 14 months..geezus..i dunno if the brockness will take THAT long to get better..
I wonder how many batches Murrrrrr dumped thinking about beating Brock. He seriously needs to get over the fact that his ego isn’t parrallel to his abilities. You can teach a man to fight, and fight well, but you can’t teach him to be a fucking monster like Lesnar is. The only thing that is going to beat Brock is a striker who can actually throw hands.
Like that fat russian gangster.
"Donuts don't wear alligator shoes" - Black Dynamite
Heil King Fyodor!!
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by The Negation on Dec 24, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
YES!!!
Can you tape it Coutureisking? You probs have a week to live. Especially if you think Mir said anything bad, cause he didn’t.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is a dumb debate because, as I’ve said before, the idea of who holds the belt, be it “champion” or “interim champion” is totally meaningless and absurd. Just because someone holds the belt does not mean they are the best fighter in the world, or even the best fighter within that organization. In fact, I would say most of the time the champion is an inferior fighter to some unknown prospect out there.
Look at Chuck Liddell? How much did it really mean for him to be champion? Does anyone really think that he could have ever beaten Machida, even early in Lyoto’s career which was supposedly Chuck’s prime?
And then God said "Let there be light," to which Chuck Norris replied, "say please."
Exactly!
There is a B I G difference between being a titleholder and champion. Just ask Buster Douglass…
Calu
I still cringe when Buster and champion are mentioned in the same sentence
by McArthur... on Dec 24, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
The don’t make the champ and the challenger fight 10 times and see who wins the most. He just has to better one time on the night the fight occurs. See also: Serra, Matt.
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
One hit wonders....
That’s all we’re talking here P-Dub. That’s like saying Tommy two tone( Jenny 867-5309) was a great band. Ahh, not so much. They never had another hit. Neither did Buster or Serra. Mike Tyson beat Mike Tyson that night. Buster Douglass just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Same with Serra. A champion dosen’t win one fight then turn around and lose and lose and lose. There is a very distinct difference!
Calu
Chuck
It doesn’t matter if he was better then Lyoto at that time or not. He was a great champion of his time. If’s and but’s don’t matter here. If the champ isn’t worthy of being champ (serra), he will be defeated by someone who is. Somehow, somewhere, someway, its gonna happen. So no worries.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what I’m saying is that the entire idea of single “champion” in a sport is asinine and only seen in combat sports. THe point is, when u get past the aura of greatness Chuck had, he was always an inferior fighter to Lyoto so how was he really “champion?”
And then God said "Let there be light," to which Chuck Norris replied, "say please."
frosnt1
Then what to you propose? Just curious.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
wooahhh
frosnt1, go back to the party, you are drunk.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
What does it mean to be champion if it doesn’t mean you’re the best in the world, or at least in your organization? Exactly jack shit, pardon my French,
And then God said "Let there be light," to which Chuck Norris replied, "say please."
Then why do all these little orgs that are way smaller than Strikeforce have “championship” belts? Nobody in those low levels is anywhere close to being UFC caliber. Should they all just stop fighting?
Brock currently is the best. I will not deny that. -- Daniel Worby
I think frosnt1 was drunk at time of posting.
He’s incoherent in those posts.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
sytles make fights
I think Chuck in his prime would’ve won a decision vs Machida in his earlier days.. or won a unanimous decision, Chuck was faster then, and had a better chin. Machida was even more defensive and less polished… However, in Chucks best days he could never beat Rampage.
okay no more belts in mma then
Cause their “irrelevant” apparently. Let’s never have a title match again, because they aren’t worthy or logical.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The 2 biggest homos battling next
Mir vs Carwin. even if they get a belt would anyone really take it seriously or just consider Brock the true champ. pointless
Lesnar owns Mir
And Frank knows that is the only way he will ever be champ again. By default, because he KNOWS he can’t beat Lesnar. GSP said it himself; skill beats size everytime. So apparently Brock has skill to go with that size, which is really bad for Mir. It’s not JUST size Frank. To listen to Mir he talks like he’s the Muhammad Ali of mma. Sorry Frankie, not even close!
Calu
Possibly? Maybe....
Bob Sapp had 150 lbs on Nogueria and lost. Hong Man Choi same against Cro Cop and lost. Who knows.
Calu
Are you kidding about the Ali/Mir thing worby?
That had better been a joke.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
if anyone I guess Anderson would be the Ali of mma
even though im not a big fan. the way he moves around the octagon. and his talent level
agree
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
soooooo kidding. i was lol'ing outloud as i put it.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I knew you were kidding, that one was out there.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Mir is gonna be champ for a while
People don’t like Mir’s mouth. But you have to admit with this new size Mir is the most Dangerous fighter in the devision. If Mir is able to get himself to where he is cutting 20 pounds look out. If you know mma you respect Mir’s talent. If Brock cant completely overpower Mir than Mir will knock him out. Brock himself said he saw stars from Mirs knee. Mir will be the champ for years to come.
big bri D
Well said. Pay them no mind. Mir presents huge danger, and many unanswered questions in the minds and hearts of lesnar fans granted his new size.
People deal with this in different ways. Some explode and call names. Some laugh. Some (very little) see it for what it is. Reality.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
pound for pound Mir is better
In my book Mir is the better martial artist and pound for pound fighter between the two of them. Mir is spot on here- Brock just overwhelms people with his weight and size.
See, that’s just getting back into the whole ‘true mixed martial artist’ bullshit. Liddell has exactly one submission victory, and that was from 1999, but nobody ever says he isn’t a true mixed martial artist. Big Nog has all of two wins by KO in 38 professional fights. Is he not a true mixed martial artist?
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
exactly
Maia is no more a Mixed Martial artist as Brock is…for some guys, one skill set is enough
by McArthur... on Dec 24, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Chuck
Nobody says he wasn’t a true mmartist? Really? Cause even though he was my hero, I heard it plenty. Trust me, I spent many a time arguing that it doesn’t matter that he’s not technically a MIXED martial artist, cause he’s a professional ass kicker. And to be fair, doing what you’re best at is no crime.
GSP is extremely well rounded, but we’ll see his wrestling more, because he’s Jesus at it.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Plenty of people have tried to discredit Brock by saying he’s just big, strong and unskilled and not a ‘true mixed martial artist’ like (fill in the blank). My point is that some of themost popular and dominant fighters also don’t meet the criteria for being true mixed martial artists.
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
Mir's trying to do the same thing by bulking up
All he does is talk shit, only to do the opposite. Fuck Mir and his BS excuses and bitching about Brock, 100 proved who the better man is and it wasn’t that mouthy arrogant prick.
"Anderson Silva is the best fighter on the planet...any Anderson Silva fight that is on, people should be buying that PPV, not because he’s my fighter but you know what, he to me is like the Muhammad Ali of MMA...the UFC has been around since 1993, nobody (else) has 10 consecutive wins in the UFC. Anderson has had 10 fights in the UFC, only 1 has ever gone to a decision."
Ed Soares on why Andy is the best fighter in the world
which one?
Which one is the mouthy arrogant prick again?
See: post fight celebration that’s not on your DVD.
;)
Just saying.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well he had his chance to prove that.
All his supposed talent, skill and smarts didn’t get him too far did it? Sorry Frank is only a legend in his own mind. And maybe yours too.
Calu
When you neutralize a blackbelts guard like Lesnar did to Mir last time..
THAT IS SKILL. NOT just power and strength. GSP has been wrestling his opponents to the ground because hes bigger and stronger than them. Is everyone who gets manhandled by him better pound for pound too? If Lesnar entered Abu Dhabi 2010 he could have a chance at winning. He trains with world reknown BJJ Black Belts. You dont think they told him that if you control his neck he wouldnt be able to use his hips at all? Lesnar has a lot of skill. And though i think Fedor would win in a fight, hes the only legitimate threat to the Last Emperor. Having size and strength and knowing how to use it is a skill. Anderson Silva is the biggest, fastest, and strongest 185 lb fighter, GSP is now the second biggest, but i guarentee strongest fighter at 170, and BJ Penn is bigger physically, except for maybe Maynerd, and very strong fighter at 155. Knowing how to USE your size and strength is totally different than just having it.
I'm a pretty big guy
And can probably lift more then Frank Mir. I guess I can take Frank Mir, too. I want the next interim belt shot. Is Frank going to start fighting only guys under 270? Seeing as how any joe with that size can beat him?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
um im huge jay
As you’ve seen in my picture. Ha ha ha. But I suppose there has always been talk of 2 weight classes for this exact reason. Go lhw 205; HW 225; SHW 245+
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Too many divisions.
Plus anyone around 250 could just end up holding both belts. It wouldn’t work, IMO.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Guys, Merry Christmas
I don’t know if I’ll be on much today and this week. But Talk to y’all soon.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Happy Pagan Holidays!
Smashed at 6:35AM and interacting with you guys. What a way to celebrate the holidays…
and oh, Frank Mir just better STFU if he doesn’t want to become a face punching bag again…
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
by The Negation on Dec 24, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Even if it's true
Frank Mir is the last person I want to hear discussing this. He was pretty humble coming off of his injury, I actually started to like him…Now it’s back to douchebag status after a few wins. Why doesn’t he just quit talking about Lesnar altogether and let it go down inside the cage? He’s only making himself sound insecure by bringing Brock up all the time. Besides, he should be worried about Carwin kicking his ass now anyway. Maybe he can start telling us how superior his skills are to Shane’s.
by cosa7189 on Dec 24, 2009 12:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
FanPost at side of page titled
McArthur’s 2010 MMAMania Fight Pick’em Pool – 108…check it out
by McArthur... on Dec 24, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
MAC
Is this only for UFC or will SF be picked as well? Maybe need 2 pools.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Mir Still Loses!
Lesnar will never be 245. Hes 280+ on fight night so theres no chance he could lose that much natural weight. Besides he beat Mir with his wrestling ability, he got into a dominat position and even if he didnt have the same strength the fact he was landing punches would lead to a TKO (ala Roy Nelson vs Kimbo as much as it sickens me to type that)
Frank's really getting pathetic
Dude’s starting to come off like the John Hinkley to Brock’s Jodi Foster.
Yeah, it’s not a perfect metaphor, but I stand by it, because it’s Christmas and I’m deeeeeep into the egg nog.
I puts the lotion on the Brock or else it gets the hose again.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Why all the hate for Mir?
Put any of yourselves in his position. He beat Brock once; the second time he got beat(badly), he wants the rubber match so their can be a distinct better person between the two. Your telling me if any one of you took a beating like that you wouldn’t want to come after that guy and try to settle the score? Anyone of you would do the same?
Yes Mir does smacktalk, but as far as I am concerned it is the most intellectual smacktalk out there. Most of the stuff he says are Matter of Facts. He smacked talk Kongo’s ground game, because we all know he has none.
still...
He’s Frank Mir, he’s a former champ, he’s been kicking ass aside from Lesnar….I’m sure he does want the rubber match and he’ll get his chance, but what’s the point of all the talkin….maybe it’s because people keep asking him about it, but why not just be a real champion and let your skills do the talking for you when the chance comes. Does he think he won’t get to fight Brock again if he stops talking smack or something? He may not if he gets handled by Shane, (or Cain possibly) but until he scales either of those two hurdles he’s not getting down with Lesnar anyway….even if Brock was healthy.
by cosa7189 on Dec 24, 2009 1:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
rockhard mma
Its because Lesnar fans are a different breed. Even when a fighter says logically what he feels about him, its fighting words to them and its bash time.
I mean what’s he supposed to hide what he thinks? Do you honestly believe he would say, “Oh Lesnar is a good all around and complete MMArtist and I don’t feel I even have a chance, and so I’m not even going to have a gameplan or point out his flaws as he is the almighty Lesnar and has none”.
Don’t hold your breath.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
MAybe he should just keep his mouth shut.
Before Brock shuts it for him.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Brock cant shut his mouth
Even with a beating he keeps on ticking. Go Mir!
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 5:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
love him or hate him he has a point
who knows how good brock will be when he comes back. ring rust can be the great equalizer, ask shogun. not to mention if brock needs that extra surgery. fuck he might not even be able to eat red meat again.
what mir fails to mention is if he does beat post sick brock, will it be beacause he is the better fighter or that brock was sick and inactive for so long.
lol we could be treated to a best of 5 situation.
sweetsugarshaw
Unfortunately, that is the worst part about this. No matter how badly Mir beats him (big if for IF he does), it will be “because Brock was sick”. That part really sucks.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What If
the complete opposite happens and he comes back stronger and faster. Remember Dana said Brocks Dr said he was only fighting at 60% because he had that sickness. What if he comes back eventually puts the size on again and than fights at 100%?
He'll never beat him, so we won't have to worry about that, worby.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Mir is just Trying to Sell a Match
Mir does talk too much at times and it might be because of his comentating side. He received a brutal beatdown, everytime Brock hit him I felt it. The only way I see Frank winning is if he gets a lucky submission like he did in his first fight. Not really lucky but the chance of Mir winning the third fight is slim. I think Brock and Mir are exciting fighters and I agree with most of you, to be the best you have to beat the best and Brock right now is the best.
Brock currently is the best
I will not deny that.
Nor, will I ever say it again. Lol.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
*
OMG! Best in UFC! In UFC I mean!
FEDOR
FEDOR
FEDOR
FEDOR
FEDOR
Is the best in the universe.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Too late.
You said it. I think I will make it my new sig.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Nice, Dubs.
We got us a new fan. If he tries to deny he will be labeled a liar. We got him right where we want him.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
lol fuck you both. misconstrue my words.
Like how MMA connected made it sound like Hendo “Made it very clear he wants only one thing”,
Hendo: “Fighting FEDOR would be about as high an honor as you can get.”
Ha ha and they failed to show the beginning where he says its strictly a rumor that he has no idea where branched from.
Good stuff.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 5:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mir has a secret man crush on Brock
Confucius says:
"Baseball is wrong: man with four balls cannot walk."
Oh, it's no secret.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Lucky Submission
Considering Mir’s pedigree in BJJ, can we all stop talking about a “lucky” submission…
Lesnar got subbed because of his lack of experience — luck had nothing to do with it.
It’s not like Mir has the most submissions by a heavyweight in the UFC or anything, right?The matchup is tied at 1 apiece and I give Mir more of a chance of winning the rubber-match than most people commenting here.
Add to that the fact that Lesnar will not be 100% in terms of fighting shape compared to the last matchup. Combine that with Mir’s newfound size and strength and I give fight three to Mir.
I can say this, if it goes down like that there will be a fourth fight and I hope there is. I can’t remember a better rivalry in UFC for some time now.
pumpkin face
The more and more I keep reading and hearing mir talk the more I’m disliking the guy. I hope brock smashed him again and I don’t really care for brock either he’s really cocky but I think he is remakably talented but I’m so ready to see mir get crushed again.
by LatinoHeat13 on Dec 24, 2009 2:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He's fighting Carwin and talking about Brock?
Mir just likes to talk we all know that but when he talks about Brock it’s BS. If he looks past Carwin he may never be able to fight Brock again.
The truth is that it isn’t fair to other top tier fighters to have the belt on the sidelines for more than a year. There’s no shame in giving up the belt of you can’t defend it. It certainly doesn’t take away from any of his accomplishments. Surrendering the belt will just create more hype when he does see fit come back. It also allows him to come back on his on time rather than feeling th pressure to defend as soon as possible.
Of course he may not need the surgery and all of this will be moot but I think it makes sense to consider the worst case scenario too.
Naturalist
+1
Voice of reasoning.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If he's coming back for sure by summer it's pointless having a interm belt or stripping him
of his belt. if he is going to be out the rest of next year yeah have a interm belt. Why hasn’t Overeem been stripped of his belt? Mir doesn’t make the business decisions for the UDC either he’s a talker always has been. I can’t wait for all the good things he’s going to be saying about Carwin in the up coming months.
what about number one contenders?
If he holds the belt and no interm belt is givin all the heavyweights are fighting for what? the insperation to fighting is to one day get a belt. and without either the ladder will crumble. brock going to lose the belt either way so it dont really matter. either to sickness or MIR!!!!!!!! so all you brock lovers stop your crying!!!!
by Tapout_RIP_Mask on Dec 24, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions
Wasn't Mir the one that said interim belts are stupid?
Even if you strip Brock he is still the Champion in the eyes of the fans. I believe this and I’m not even a Brock fan!
I Belive it was brock saying the interm belt is stupid and cant be conciderd a belt
i dont think they should strip his belt at all i think interm belt is the best think unless brock thinks hell be out for at least two years. then i could understand.
by Tapout_RIP_Mask on Dec 24, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions
Let Brock keep the gold.
If Carwin was the champion and was in Brocks situation would Frank be saying the same thing?
To be the champ you have to beat the champ. I’m not one for interm belts, but imo. its better then stripping the belt from Brock. In Randy’s case I could have seen more reasoning for stripping the belt, but Brocks sick don’t kick a man when he’s down. Once more information is given on Brock’s situation then make the call on stripper or an interm belt.
If they strip him of the belt, I’ll still see Brock as the champ.
pwilson
That's what fake pieces of shit do, ppwwpp
If this was Carwin instead of Brock, Mir would be saying the same stuff. He’s only kind to Carwin for as long as it serves his purpose.
Mir is a two faced backstabber and if this were jail instead of the UFC, Mir would have been dead by now, after serving his time as Brock’s girlfriend of course.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
right on jay!!!
mir is worthless. he is just trying to get at brock while he is sick. lesner will come back when he is 300lbs and angry as shit. i see mir getting beaten even worse in their next fight.
by Conan the Barbarian on Dec 24, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
You guys dont understand....
Frank Mir has been in this game a very very long time and has very good skills. Black belt in Jitsu, decent boxing. He has wwatched this sport grow and is very upset that he got handled by Brock. The only reason and frank states this everytime is that lesnar is just too damn huge. He is not a skillfull fighter. He has “great” wrestling because a freakin bull trying to charge you and take you down by two legs with that kind off weight is just impossible to hold off. Frank isnt saying anything bad. He speaks the truth. I dont think Brock is a good fighter at all. He is boring and has no technique and only size thats it. No wonder Frank is pissed..he is way way more skilled and just cant get a chance to show it to everyone. He showed it once and will show it again.
You really are Frank Mir
I read this statement in the article.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
the bottom
Made it. Now time to find the bottom of 12 beer bottles.
Merry Christmas boys! See ya tomorrow!
Lesnar sucks! :D
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 5:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mir should relax
In my opinion Frank Mir is too obsessed. he needs to relax and get his “mojo” back. because this ranting he does about brock over and over again will work in his disadvantage. i actualy liked him when we was acting like a pro mma artist. right now he is following the hype, he shouldnt do that. he is still among the best in my opinion and should rely on that.
Frank, right now im not a fan. he should treat his career as a proffesional one and let some things slide even when it affects the ego. ( i had the same about tito back in the day)
(dont flame on me for gramatics pls, im dutch)
no worries
Trust me, you actually did quite well compared to what we’re used to on here.
Cheers man.
by daniel worby on Dec 24, 2009 8:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed... Mir is obsessed with Lesnar
Mir can’t stop talking about Brock. Now he’s talking about whether Lesnar should relinquish the belt. This guy went from one of my top three favorites to a guy who just talks too much.
by MMACrossfire on Dec 26, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
IM GOING OFF SUBJECT HERE BUT STILL HAVE A POINT
In the lightweight division we have seen this throughout the titles history no champion has lost the belt the belt has been stripped due to contract disputes and to steroids and when they decided the division didnt need a belt for awhile. my point in all of this is if you strip lesnar of the title its nothing that we havent seen before but, why should we have to see it again? im all for not having the title ransom by some guy who may or may not come back in a year or year in a half but, we do need a true champion and a undisputed champion or else we will keep playing this game of well he was the champ and he never lost the title so the next guy who wins it is a paper champion anyways it shouldnt be like that!
True.
If Brock or any title holder is going to be out for a long period, they should give the title back.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
No problem and when he comes back he gets a title shot.
I think they want to wait until the new year and figure out how long if ever Brock will be back and make their decisions then. Really they don’t have to put it up until a winner of the Carwin and Mir fight face the winner of the NOG and Cain fight wich at the earliest will be in June. I think every fan would be happy seeing a five rounder between the winners of those two fights and agree a worthy champion would be crowned.
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