MMA Quick Pic: King Mo pops Mike Whitehead at Strikeforce: 'Evolution'
by MMAmania.com on Dec 20, 2009 9:46 AM EST
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Are you impressed with the performance of "King" Mo last night or will it take more than a stoppage of Mike Whitehead to make you a believer?
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I'm not impressed...yet.
I won’t even go into who he’s fought since he’s still new to MMA, BUT just watching him in the cage, his stance, his technique, etc, its still not there yet.
What rubbed me the wrong way even more is when he thought he was Rampage talking about the “money”
He looks good
But somone with good hands and TD def should exploit his hands below the knees gorilla appoach
by dazzlebreath on Dec 20, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
When he fights Mousasi he won't be as wreckless he knew Whitehead was slow
The guy dissects tape and watches MMA religously and could tell you off the top of his head what most fighters strengths and weaknesses are.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:08 AM EST up reply actions
I'm impressed'
His stance is like that because he’s quicker than his opponents, Give Mo’ someone as fast as him and he’ll be tested, however he’s got his wrestling to take it to the ground. He’s almost 30 yrs old, but if he was 22 yrs like Bones Jones, I would be sayng he’s a future MMA star in any org. Mo, is personally irritating to me, but I like his ability.
Definitely
Good attitude, nice finish. I remember how Whitehead was a total dickhead in an interview after Rampage KO’d Wanderlei so sweet to see fatass get laid out. Does he seriously think he’s gonna accomplish anything be being so fat.
whitehead isnt an easy guy to KO!
I dont know what to think of King Mo. He hasnt fought anyone! No idea how good he is yet! He de needs to fight Sokoudjou next!
I was lauging when the showtime/SF execs were scolding Mo and telling him to tone down his celebration! hahahahaha
lol, don’t say that you don’t know what to think of Mo, when you’re always saying that he sucks b/c he hasn’t fought anyone after every wins that he got. Your mind is set, IMO!
by Alpha Male. on Dec 20, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
He sucks real hard for trying to compare himself to Rampage, would be sweet if Mo and Rashad fought eachother and hopefully have it end with a double KO.
I think Mo would own rampage.
And then God said "Let there be light," to which Chuck Norris replied, "say please."
As much as I dislike Rampage
I think he would take Mo easily.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
I dont ever h6ate on Mo! wh6at r u talking5 about?
He is one of my favorite young prospects. Difference is that I treat him like the PROSPECT that he is. I dont annoint guys like Mo, Rashad, or Bones until they actually beat someone!
Do you remember those words johnny? If you don't I can give you a hint about who said it.
Mo "King of the Cans" Lawal! hagahahaha
Book it now, "Battle of the over hyped":
Jon Jones vs. Mo "king of Cans" Lawal!
Rashad isn't considered a prospect any more is he?
And Bones did just beat ‘someone’. I’m not getting involved or anything, but am I right? Bones has arrived and Shad has fought enough to not be considered a young prospect, right?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Lawal is gonna be a massive MMA star in a couple of years.
For all who were hating but are now impressive – keep moving, this here wagon is full.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 20, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
It's obvious he has unnatural speed.
He is fast and fearless. He is going to be a monster some day. Some people decide how talented a fighter is by reading Wikipedia. Try watching the guy and grade him on his abilities, not the abilities of his opponents.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Alpha:
Yes I said those words but you are taking it out of context!
I made that statement in a thread were everyone was treating Mo and bones were being talked about as if they were top 10 Fighters that should be fighting for the title. I am actually a big fan of both Mo and Bones…I just strongly believe in the natural progression of a fighter. after what happened to Sokoudjou, I hate to see a fighter rushed into fights that he has no business taking at this point in his career.
If I remember correctly, in the thread that I made those statements, people were saying that Mo could beat Rampage at this moment in his career. Thats insane!
I do actually really like Mo and BOnes. I think they are both studs, who could one day be champions! I just dont think they are world beaters right now!
Jay: No Rashad isnt a prospect, but he still hasnt beaten anyone that would earn him a spot as a top fighter. If you want my honest opinion, Rashad has the skills of a top 10 UFC LHW, not a top 5 (there is a huge drop off between top 10 and top 5 in UFC LHW division)…even though he has the skills of a top 10 fighter, he has yet to earn it inside the Octagon and that bothers me. At some point soon, he has to get a win over an established top dog like Shogun,Rogerio,Machida,Rampage…until then I question how good he really is….
Agree completely on the part about rashad
I think Mo could avoid the big shot from Rampage long enough to take him down and ride to a decision
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:14 AM EST up reply actions
John...
Thanks for clearing up your post. I agree about Shad, he got lucky and won the belt without having to face anyone in the top 7. When Forrest is the biggest win of your career, you haven’t had much of a career.
I remember you as the first guy to scout tons of guys(mostly correctly). Nobody can deny or dispute your abilities to see talent before it has ripened.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Thanks Jay! I really appreciate that! Its better then all the normal hate I get!
As for Rashad…EXACTLY!
Just cause he wore the UFC title, it doesnt mean anything. The UFC cheapens its titles by having a title fight between ovr rated guys like FOrrest and Page!
Rashad, beat an established top dog, and I will never bash you again!
I know john
lol, I used these quotes to my advantage. I know that you said else where that they are both great prospects and that you like them. I was only messing with ya a little bit. I didn’t wanted to bring you heat for that though so I guess that was a bad move and I’m sorry about that.
Completely agree with your post and that that dude ItBurnz is wrong about Mo avoiding the big shot from Page long enough to take him down and ride to a decision. No way in hell that could ever happen. Hendo and Linland couldn’t hold down Page long enough to ride to a decision and Mo wouln’t be able to succeed either.
Hendo and Lindland are both Greco guys and Lindland was very small compared to Rampage
Mo is a TD specialist and freestyle guy. Completely different. Rampage has a ton of power if you exchange with him but if you frustrate him and grapple and don’t exchange his chance of a fight changing punch drops the more you wear him down. Forrest and his glass jaw lasted against Rampage. He had to get through the first 3 rounds and then his safety increased a great bit even though I personally believe Forrest deserved no better than a draw in that fight.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
What you're talking about..very small and very different?
Greco vs freestyle…the guy his a silver Olympian medallist. How can you have better than that? Now you gonna telling us that be a Senior National Champ is more prestigious…please. They fought at 205 and he’s 6’ and Page is 6’1". that’s not very small in my book even if Page was at 215- 220 during fight time. Mo is 6’ and he his at 215lbs, so it’s about the same and you got to be delusional for thinking that Mo at this stage of his career, could fool Page and drag him fighting his fight by doing a grapple match w/o exchange. Then you go on with an example that holds no weight at all, with Forrest a guy that got drop twice in that fight plus he never beat Page with a grappling style. So man get out of it, there’s nothing that he could bring to the table that Page never seen before and no way that he could hold down Page for 15 mins.
by Alpha Male. on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Do you understand the differences between freestyle and Greco?
?? Greco emphasizes throws and doesn’t allow trips or any manipulation of the lower body and as such generally Greco guys, (Hendo and Lindland), are better in the clinch but not as effective at controlling guys on the ground. Rampage is a solid wrestler and is very powerful but Hendo did get him down and control him on the ground for a round. Mo could that and more.
Also Forrest never beat Rampage with any grappling? You remember the round people seemed convinced was a 10-8 because Rogan said so? It was largely a grappling match.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 22, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
That and Rampage (despite the fact that he would knock glass chinned Rashad silly because he hates him)
Looked like crap against china-chinned Jardine and china-chinned Forrest. Rampage can be lured into a slow match where he isn’t advancing constantly once it goes past 1. He’s great but has lots of weaknesses.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 22, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
Who the fk you think you are for questioning me if I understand the difference between the 2 styles of wrestling? I see a few posts out of you coming challenging regulars on this site about their knowledge in MMA when they have been here for years. What makes you think that I’m a Rogan listener? Go fk yourself! Do you really think that Mexi never heard of Wiuff also? All you are saying is pure speculation out of your fantasy land and you try to make me buy your garbage that Rampage got more weaknesses than Mo? Get the fk out of here and stay at BE dipshit!
Yes Rampage would beat Mo for sure.
King Mo is king of the cans right now, that’s the truth and it has nothing do with how good he is, he just hasn’t fought anybody. I hope you’re kidding though when you’re trying to imply that Jon Jones is overhyped? he’s def not, even though he hasn’t really fought anybody either. But he’s a rookie, taking one step at a time, dude has a good attitude and skills, he is going to be succesful and expose alot of name fighters.
Standing yes.
Rampage is like a turtle on his back though. Mo could lay and pray him already at this point in his career. He’s quick enough and understands distance well enough that he stays out of striking range except when he wants to be in it. The only danger to him with his style is a guy throwing a headkick when he ducks and weaves. There’s like 4 guys at 205 that actually have good kicks. Machida, Shogun, Mousasi and Vera and I bet you don’t see him wreckless against Mousasi as he knows hes dangerous.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:11 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed Itburnz
I would take him over Page. But, I’m a Page hater, so my opinion doesn’t count for anything, really.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
If Rampage wanted, he could keep Mo on his back for 15 minutes!
Mo is not taking down SLAMpage!
Mo hasn't beaten anyone
I have no clue how anyone feels this guy is a serious prospect when he has beaten nothing but “C” class at best fighters.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
travis Wiuff and MIke Whitehead are not C class. And, along with GSP, he is the best athlete in MMA. If you can’t see that he’s a serious prospect then you’re hopeless because this guy is pure talent.
And then God said "Let there be light," to which Chuck Norris replied, "say please."
Felix will reserve judgement until he is 20 and 0.
Then he’ll say he was behind him the whole time.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
You don't have an eye for talent?
You have to wait till a guys career is over before you know how good he was? I’m not saying he is the best, but the man is talented.
Who have I said was good that wasn’t? Since crap is easily sold to me?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Youre Court Jester Lawal Mark
I guess you are into guys who have beat has beens and nobodies. It’s all good buddy.Be who you are.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Mexi...
None of what you just said makes any sense. What does this mean?
“Youre Court Jester Lawal Mark”. That isn’t a sentence. That’s a bunch of words.
Also this.
“I guess you are into guys who have beat has beens and nobodies. It’s all good buddy.Be who you are.”
Dude, that is what everyone does when they just start a sport. Was he suppose to fight Page, Brock, AS, Machida, Shogun and Fedor his first six fights? Don’t look at records look at talent…Are you forgetting how successful top wrestlers are at this sport? He’s fast as fuck and unpredictable-Like Bones Jones.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
I'm looking at talent...
and I don’t see it yet. Maybe in a few more fights we can see how he fairs. I am seriously NOT impressed with his performance.
You haven't noticed how fast he is, or how keeps knocking fools down?
He’s a LHW when he starts taking this serious. He’s faster than Shad and a better wrestler too. If Shad can be as successful as he was, Mo should be King for real one day.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Oh yeah, Whitehead is deadly fast
Put anyone against Whitehead and that person will look fast. Come on, its a little early to be jumping up beside King Mo calling him the next best thing. Time will tell.
Don't look at Whitehead.
Watch Mo’s other fights and his wrestling videos. They are on You-Tube. The man is seriously fast. Don’t look at his opponents, just watch him. He avoids strikes easily with Awesome footwork. He is extremely explosive.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Fast against who though?
I’ve seen them. Nothing to write the folks about.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Jay is correct
Mo has NFL level measurables. If you wanna talk explosive Mo has a 40" vert. Thats better than 98% of the NFL and most of the NBA.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:17 AM EST up reply actions
Champ...You are seriously not impressed with his opponents, that's all.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Opponents are not a factor.
His abilities in the ring have to be tested. A win is a win, but as he climbs the ladder we’ll see how he does. That’s all I’m saying, lets wait and see how he does. Right now I don’t see him ready to fight much better guys, that may change in the next fight.
Nobody is saying he'll be the greatest fighter to ever live.
But he will be up in the top 10. He is still learning. All we are saying is this guy has a lot of natural talent. Of course he could get lazy or bored and never reach his potential(ahem,BJ Penn). But he has a ton of potential. One of the most exciting prospects right now.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
What jayboy is sayin' here ladies and gents...
…is that you don’t have to look at who a guy has fought to see that they’ve got what it takes. You could easily grade a fighter based on his technique alone.
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
by The Negation on Dec 21, 2009 3:58 AM EST up reply actions
You do realize UFC Champ
The only dude to ever TKO Whitehead was Tim Sylvia back when he was doing roids and kicking ass. At least until Mo absolutely flattened him.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:16 AM EST up reply actions
If you hate his personality that's one thing but...
to deny his ability is just stupid. I know a lot of you are big mousasi backers – It’s like saying he was a trash fighter before the Dream tournament since he didn’t beat anyone. I owuld be my life you all didn’t know who he was until that tourney except maybe as the kid who got subbed out by gono. Yet now he’s an annointed god? Talent is talent and whether it’s Mo, Mousasi or Bones they all have a ton of it. You don’t need to beat guys to have potential. Also mo has proven himself every single time.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 20, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
And, Mousasi/ Mo is going to be one hell of a fight.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
One hell of a KO for Mousasi
I hope Lawal trains with Babalu for that fight.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
NNR
I wonder how many here knew who Khalidov was before he knocked Santiago out. Or how many still think he’s nobody.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:19 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly man
Everyone who was saying he was the next thing was getting bashed now, that bandwagon is full of former doubters. Until he beats a big name he won’t ever get respect and that won’t happen for a while because in many interviews he has said he knows exactly how he wants to progress in MMA and which fights he needs right now. The reason why i am a huge fan of his is also his technical insight when discussing or training in fighting whether mma, boxing, MT, and of course wrestling. It’s not shallow and vague like with most fighters.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 21, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
great stuff NNR!
THe bandwagon crap and fighter bashing is really sad around here!
Yup dude is a student of the game
He must have had that attitude in wrestling cause its rare to see a fighter that watches as much tape as he does.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously you dont know what a "mark" is
And he is more of a Court Jester than a King.
Sorry for missing an “a” in that sentence. I can see how that would have thrown you way off.
Comparing him to Bones Jones is absurd. Jones would kill Lawal.
Keep replying. Im getting a lot of unexpected laughs for a Sunday evening.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Put the word "a" in this jumble of words to make a sentence.
“Youre Court Jester Lawal Mark” You can’t. So don’t try to insult my intelligence. I can’t make sense of your illiteracy and that makes me uneducated? Why is it absurd to compare him to Jones? They have the same story right now. Only difference is Lawal has a much better wrestling background.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Lawal's wrestling history puts Jones' to shame.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Who did Jones fight in his first 6 fights?
Want me to tell you. You might get a lot of unexpected laughs on a Sunday Night. LOL
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
"Jones would kill Lawal."
Speculation and opinion from a ‘Hater’. The best and most accurate form of predicting fights.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Do a poll and see who else thinks Jones would beat the Court Jester
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
I would bet my bones on JOnes! That's 'fo sho!!
Whatever the fuck you do in life, echoes in eternity! <----slightly edited
-Maximus[Gladiator]
by The Negation on Dec 21, 2009 4:00 AM EST up reply actions
I cant tell you who he has beat in his last 4 or 5.
Plus Jones trains with a much better camp. And if you can’t se the major difference in the effectiveness and technique between Jones and the Court Jester, I don’t know what to tell you. Jones wasn’t on some premature hype train either. His hype came after he started beating (badly) guys that aren’t exactly bums, like Kerr or even Whithead. Why do you keep replying to your own comments? It doesn’t make you look very rational.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
I'm not saying Jones isn't talented.
But you can’t use the “he hasn’t fought anyone yet” defense against Mo, then say Jones’ isn’t the same. Lawal had a better resume when they both started out, Jones has just had more time to prove he belongs in MMA.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
And Lawal hasn't really proven anything aside from he can beat Mark Kerr and Whitehead
Real impressive.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
It's like the motherfocking idiots.
Who said Jardine was gonna beat Thiago Silva, b/c Thiago hadn’t fought anybody compared to Jardine. I mean seriously anybody with eyes could see how that fight would go.
a good punch is still a good punch and great wrestling is still great wrestling no matter the opponent.
well Lawal's first opponent is still probably his best
and he knocked out a 250some lb ripped Wiuff. I think that would probably be the most difficult 1st fight for anybody in MMA except for Dong Sik Yoon fighting Sakuraba. Oh and Mo won by TKO rd 1
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:24 AM EST up reply actions
After he badly beat Bonnar?
He decisioned a dude that Coleman beat. Lets not outright lie here Felix.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:22 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
Bones Jones would spend that fight on his back. Being a Junior College national champion and being the 2 years running #1 in the world ranked 185 lb freestyle wrestler is a bit of a different catagory lol
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:20 AM EST up reply actions
not "c" but definately not "a"
they are both soild veterans though and youve got to respact the way mo despatched them.i say give him babalu next that will be a good guage to see where he is.
Reply makes no sense.
Don’t post just to get your post count up Mexi. scott1 commented on Whitehead and Frye. What does Kool Aid have to do with those two dudes? They aren’t hyped up fighters, so there is no Kool Aid to drink.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Not Frye, Kerr.
I get old irrelevant fighters mixed up. lol
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Thats a really good relevant fighter he has beat.
I think my 17 year old cousin can beat Kerr.
To buy into the Hype of Lawal is simply moronic. He is the Dung Le of the HW division. After he loses to a couple good fighters, he will go back to Japan and fight guys like Sapp and Choi. Mark my words.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
He hasn't had a chance to fight anyone yet.
Not everybody fights Fedor in their first 6 fights. That argument is dumb. Jake Shields hasn’t fought anyone and he’s been fighting for like 10 years.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Who would you be willing to fight in your first year as a fighter?
He’s been fighting a year. He is still learning. You don’t put a hot prospect against the Champ in his first year. How would that help him in the long run?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
He hasnt fought anyone
but he deserves all the hype? Hmmm, sounds logical to me.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Not Hype. What hype?
Who has Jones really fought? Or Shields?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Who has Jones really fought? Is that supposed to be funny?
You can go now. GO find Silent Bob and get even more burnt out.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
You're not impressed with Mo's abilities
But you are impressed with Matt Hammil and Stephen Bonnar?
Hamill was a Division 3 wrestler, Mo was Division 1. I don’t even have to tell you about Bonnar’s probelems. We aren’t talking records and opponents faced, Mexi. We are talking talent/abilities and potential. We can’t talk records and opponents faced until there has been more time. Potential is obviously there, if you can’t spot it you have a bad eye for it. You said I bought into crap earlier…Whom are you speaking of? Was that a baseless accusation?
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
you know Travis Wiuff and Mike Whitehead are fairly equivalent to Stephan Bonnar, Matt Hamill, anyway…
I wouldn’t waste your time it’s clear Mexi is completely irrational on this matter.
And then God said "Let there be light," to which Chuck Norris replied, "say please."
I bet you think Baroni is great too.
These laughable fools.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
If you
For a second think Jon JOnes is not a great up and comming fighter Felix you are a moron. You truly have no clue. The King MO’s, and Jon Jones’ are the future of MMA. What do wait until they become big stars to praise.Rampage Jackson was still very raw at that level as was all the greats even Fedor
by The real ZACK on Dec 21, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
You need to go back and read or just learn to read in general
I more or less said Jones would wreck Lawal.
Learn to read kid.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Jay... Its not that Mo was Division 1 or an NCAA champion
He was a WORLD CHAMPION. Was favored for the gold medal but had a bad strategy in the trials and was upset.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:28 AM EST up reply actions
World champ?
Really? Does it count that it was in a wrestling league that went under after it’s only season?
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Does it not count that he finished third
in NCAA DIVISION ONE? What did Jones and your buddy Hamill do? Division 2 and 3.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
I was referencing where the guy above e said Lawal was a World Champ.
Hamill has won gold medals in the Pan Am games. I know it’s not the Olympics, but it’s still a gold for the country.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Dude Pan-Ams is nothing
Rogerio Nogueria took bronze in the Pan Ams in BOXING. International tournaments in wrestling are all held in Europe and Asia where the countries that dominate the sport are.
Golden Grand Prix Champion and 3 time Senior US National Champion
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Actually I see you used Wiki Felix I didn't even know he was in "Real Pro Wrestling"
Jones was a Junior College (JuCo) champ
Mo was ranked #1 in the world as an amatuer wrestler. He was US national champion and won prestigious tournaments around the world. Against international competition.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Well Felix
Considering he can make 185 – Thats what he wrestled at – and he’s fighting at HW, someone of intelligence should be able to extrapolate that he’s without challengers at his natural weight so he fights anybody.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:27 AM EST up reply actions
Tim Kennedy who also is in Strikeforce
would kill Lawal at 185.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
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This is simply the opinion of a Mo Hater. This is not to be misconstrued as fact.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
I dont hate on him
I just dont buy the hype when all he has beaten are has beens and nobodies.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
He beat Wiuff after training for a month
Of course I know you have no idea what wiuff looks like. But its not a tubby 250 like Whitehead.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
Yea but he is on his way up just like other fighters. This is where he starts his legacy whether successful or not. So far he is looking very impressive against real fighters so you cant take that away. The future of MMA starts in Strikeforce!!! UFC isnt getting anywhere letting go of GREAT FIGHTERS to sign guys like Baroni and Buentello. Watch and see Strikeforce will have more entertaining fight cards and more fighter will follow
by The real ZACK on Dec 21, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
What was thomson slipping on
Was it the left over rockstar from king mo? He was showering in that stuff?
by DrewMoney$$$ on Dec 20, 2009 1:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he needs a real step up in composition maybe sokuadjou
and i liked to see him keep his hands that low mousasi or hendo
He's a film nut
He knows not to keep them that low against Mousasi who can kick
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:30 AM EST up reply actions
"I fight at moneyweight"
What a douch. Can’t wait till this dude gets KTFO.
Don't eat yellow snow.
by BNF on Dec 20, 2009 11:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
moneyweight
I thought that was great. Good for him. Keeps me entertained in all levels and has fun out there. Good stuff.
by daniel worby on Dec 20, 2009 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why is this so offensive?
"Maybe Mur is going through menopause and is retaining water"---Ubernoober
I thought it was awesome too.
I see nothing wrong with that. Mo is a flashy, exciting guy. If “moneyweight” bothers you, you shouldn’t watch him, because that is the least offensive thing he’s done in months.
I think he’s quick and talented. I’d bet for him against a LOT of UFC LHW’s. Definitely too fast for most of them.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
Stop watching him? WTF?
I thought he was annoying and sounded like an idiot. Combine that with his cockey antics in the ring and he is right up there on my most hated list. I’m glad you guys like him though. He beat a fat ass Whitehead. Big deal.
Don't eat yellow snow.
by BNF on Dec 20, 2009 4:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wasn't disagreeing about that, BNF.
I was saying that the moneyweight comment really is a non-issue. His dancing to the ring and show boating are much worse. I thought the moneyweight thing was just funny. I don’t care for his antics, same as when Mayhem does it. They’re wrastling style entrances and they are lame, no matter who is doing it. I just think he is talented and exciting. I tend to ignore the entrances and pick the guys I root for based on talent. King Mo is talented.
Frank Mir packed 30+ pounds of solid muscle onto his body in five months. Why hasn't anyone called him out for steroid use? Is it because he never wrestled for Vince McMahon? I give Mir credit for his taste in strippers/wives, not his fighting skills or his personality.
He became the second guy to ever really stop Whitehead.
The first was roided Tim Sylvia
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:32 AM EST up reply actions
King Mo's got the potential to be great
He had no respect for Whitehead’s power and had clinical boxing, that matched with his superb wrestling and charisma makes him one for the future. Say what you want about Whitehead but at this stage of his career that is an impressive win for King Mo, beating a veteran coming off the biggest win of his career whilst still being a novice is big. Hopefully he fights someone legitimate like Soko next and his days of fighting journeymen and hasbeens are over, he needs to prove himself consistently and he’ll only improve by fighting top competition, although at this stage he should be kept well away from Gegard as he’d get crushed.
"If you’re a fight fan, I don’t know how you don’t think that that card is a great card…." Dana White on UFC 108
20%: Percentage of MMAManiacs buying UFC 108 (I guess the other 80% aren't "real fight fans" according to Dana)
Feijao or Soko
either is the proper next step up
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 5:33 AM EST up reply actions
Still a nobody with a big mouth
Whitehead is a CAN people, this “win” doesnt mean shit.
Mousasi shouldnt waste time on this loser but if Mo the bigmouth wants his jaw broken then go ahead, maybe he’ll be quiet after that.
by Lester The Pimp on Dec 20, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions
I won't say that he is he next big thing, but
I will admit that I am excited to see his future fights. He looked comfortable in there, and that seems to lead to exciting fights. He is part of Strikeforce’s improving lineup. The fact that he shows his personality seems to irk some of you, but I don’t mind he spraying rockstar around the ring. Bottom line is he is going to be fun to watch, and the blatant hating by some of you guys is boring
Mo is tough but Im not impressed.
the only reason Im not impressed is because of his opponent, beating Mike Whitehed is nothing to write home about but its still a win.
not impressed
by a lack of performance by mo…. but Whitehead wouldn’t even be on a prelim bout for a UFC fight night.
Impressed, but (like above) needs a real fight now
He looked great for the level of competition he faced on Saturday night. But like somebody else wrote above, he needs a real right now. Give him somebody of note, somebody who will finally challenge him. He’s a natural talent, and he’s coasted on that talent so far. I’m not saying he hasn’t trained. I’m sure he’s trained hard. But he needs a real test.
Give him Lindland in wrestler vs wrestler match
Mo’s wrestling weight was 185 and he can still make it. Then you’ll see how ridiculously powerful this dude is.
Gimme 1 round!
fights cans
yes hes got power and is a very athletic dude.. like everyone including me says, give him a real test… theres many tuff fights for him before he desrves a shot at gegard.. hendo, babalou, many fights that will be a real test.. as well as the african assasin. lol. he too was highly touted only to never get going when push came to shuv. i think princess mo will get beat down when he gets a real fight!!!
The difference is with Soccerjew
He landed a couple flush punches and scored flash KO’s against Rogerio and Arona in the opening seconds of the fight. Arona is actually a perfect matchup for him as he is weak on his feet and Soko has his judo background for TD defense. Rogerio just got caught cold early in the fight and Soko throws hard early in the fight before he gasses. Soko has been impressive in round 1 against everybody. The Mousasi and Machida are the only guys to take rd 1 against him and it wasn’t going away in either fight. Stylewise Soko would be a hard matchup for Mo but he’d use movement and take him into the later rounds where he’d gas.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 21, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
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