UFC 107 results recap from last night for 'Penn vs Sanchez'
UFC 107: "Penn vs. Sanchez" from the FedEx Forum in Memphis, Tennessee, is officially in the books.
So too, is the argument that a viable contender exists within the UFC lightweight division capable of dethroning current 155-pound deity BJ Penn. Did Diego Sanchez gets annihilated in the main event of UFC 107?
YES!
It was evident right from the get-go, when "The Prodigy" gave Sanchez a B.Brian Blair sunset flip courtesy of a crushing right hand. What started as a dream for Sanchez quickly became a "Nightmare" as Penn was relentless with his strikes and showed no signs of slowing down -- even in the fourth and fifth rounds.
While Sanchez hung in there through the fifth frame, a well-placed head kick by the Hawaiian busted him open and prompted a doctor's stoppage due to the severity of the gash. Penn was humble after his TKO victory and in return, Sanchez was gracious in defeat -- promising to "be back."
Will a rematch with Ultimate Fighter rival Kenny Florian be waiting for him?
There was no touch of gloves between Frank Mir and Cheick Kongo in the night's co-main event, probably because Mir didn't want to set off any of the dynamite in his left hand -- the same one that exploded against the Parisian's chin, sending him crumbling to the canvas en route to a first round submission loss.
It was hard to imagine any performance from Frank Mir that could have lived up to the weeks of trash talking that came from the former champ, but after watching him mount his wounded opponent and lock in a fight-ending guillotine, there are probably a lot of top level heavyweights looking over their shoulders.
Could a recuperating Brock Lesnar be one of them?
Welterweight star Jon Fitch continued on his journey to steal the title of most UFC decision finishes from Tyson Griffin with his unanimous nod over the rugged Mike Pierce. Nothing we haven't seen from the Purdue wrestling standout, as he outworked his stocky opponent using an effective balance of wrestling and body control.
And a few shots to the dome certainly helped his cause.
Pierce didn't get a chance to flaunt any of his best attributes under the suffocating attack of the former 170-pound number one contender, but he did show that he can take a punch (and a knee) without even batting an eyelash. Post-fight comments had Fitch praising the "bright" future of Pierce.
This writer unanimously agrees.
It was supposed to be an exciting battle of lightweight stars when Kenny Florian took on Clay Guida, and while "The Carpenter gave it his awl, "KenFlo" proved why he was afforded two cracks at the 155-pound crown with a dominating performance capped off by a textbook rear naked choke.
He also proved that change isn't always a bad thing.
After a cautious feeling-out process in round one, the former TUF star battered Guida with his much improved boxing that was a result of his recent switch in training camps. In fact, Guida had difficulty making any kind of defense hold up, as a patented "Hellbow" split him open late in the first and kept his eyes bloodied until the submission finish.
Following his impressive win, Florian promised the fans another run at lightweight gold and more "finishes" in the process.
Paul Buentello kept true to his "Headhunter" moniker when he opted to throw hands with Stefan Struve for three rounds in the opening fight of the night. He spent the majority of the first round on defense, as the lanky Dane used his long limbs for multiple submission attempts.
The second frame was an entertaining back-and-forth brouhaha that could have gone to either fighter, but likely saw the Mexican mauler pull ahead with further proof that flying knee plus hard right hand equals Octagon ass-plant. Unfortunately Buentello negated his own momentum by spending round three stalking the "Skyscraper" and eating a plethora of leg kicks.
In the end, Struve took the majority nod, but credited his opponent for a tough fight and felt like it could have been a draw. Regardless, Struve takes two steps forward, Buentello takes one step back.
That’s enough from us — now it’s your turn to discuss "Penn vs. Sanchez" in the comments section below. Sound off, Maniacs. Let’s hear what you have to say.
For complete UFC 107 results and detailed blow-by-blow commentary of the televised main card fights click here.
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Maybe that's because Diego was the one doing all the work.
BJ stays so relaxed and controls his fights so good that he doesn’t need to expend energy.
I don’t get why Diego had his BJJ coach in his corner, he had no good advice to give at all. I can’t understand and accept the fact that he didn’t threw a single leg kick in the fight, He should have bombarded BJ with leg kicks to take his boxing and balace away from him, Diego will never win a straight up boxing match against BJ so bad gameplan and him getting knocked down in the 1st didn’t help.
Mir actually looked good surprisingly enough, smart to fake the takedown and come over the top, and then the patented guillotine choke.
I think diego needed more takedown attempts
Seriously how crap did diego look. The same one two combo, same uppercut, always threw the same left leg kick, same TD attempt to single to ankle pick. Rd after Rd. Guys need to up there striking level in MMA. Besides all the Champs minus lesnar, nearly all the fighters are trash in that dept (exceptions exit of course but a big majority.)
Roberto – Nice to see someone else not believing Mir’s drivel about american and european boxing. It was simply the tried and true fake low go high. nothing more.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 13, 2009 3:01 AM EST up reply actions
diego looked robotic in his striking!
He’s like a programmed android with all his telegraphed combos.
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by The Negation on Dec 13, 2009 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
BJ looked awesome.
But Diego did too. Just outclassed. I don’t know who at 155 can finish Diego. Sure as hell don’t know who is going to even challenge BJ.
by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Dec 13, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
BJ has never been tired at 155lbs
BJ is never tired at 155lbs, he only gets tired when he’s got extra weight on him and fighting big ger guys at 170. I think a couple of times when BJ punched Diego in the face I heard him say… "YES’!
I almost cried when i saw proper and technical counterstriking
No more stand and bang idiots. People need learn how to fn strike. I predicted and RNC after a million sanchez TD attempts but a vagina on the head is also acceptable.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 13, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
diego got sauced...
which made it a boring fight.
WOW mir
by And Boom goes the dynamite on Dec 13, 2009 12:58 AM EST reply actions
NO! NO! NO!
i wish bj would have shouted “no” during the face off.
i never dreamed bj would have dominated diego like that. props to bj i dont know who would be a legit contendor at this point.
There is no one to fight BJ.
Grey Maynard in IMO, would give BJ a good scrap eventually going down like Sean Sherk… but it would an ok fight for a couple of rnds..
There is no LW alive who can do anything to him
Still though he needs to fight these top 10 guys and get more scalps on his resume to take the mantle of greatest LW in MMA history. btw Sanchez is not top 10 at LW. I hope there is no one who argues that.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 13, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Diego was the last credible threat to Penn, and he just completely worked. That title is Penn’s until he decides to give it up.
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
Penn will give the belt up...
Once he starts doin’ movies too! Jason Statham can easily get him on the set.
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-Maximus[Gladiator]
by The Negation on Dec 13, 2009 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
Go ahead and name the top 10 LW's then.
Just because it wasn’t a good style matchup for Diego doesn’t mean he’s not a top 10 LW.
Add legkicks to his gameplan instead of exchanging and trying highkicks and it would have looked much better for him, cause he would have reached BJ’s legs and avoided the boxing match.
I will say this to you
Name one top 10 LW fighter that Sanchez has beat? Actual history speaks more than hypothetical musings. Like i said BJ would make everyone in the top 10 look as bad or even worse than Diego. That still won’t change the fact that Diego has not done anything at LW.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 13, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
It's been 3 fights, give him a chance.
He’s young and a top LW in the UFC. It takes a lot of great fighters more than one title shot to win the belt.
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Thorazine
I don’t think Gray has a chance with BJ. Best chance is Edgar using speed to pepper BJ and try to win a decision, fight for points.
Edgar will just eat pepper if he faces BJ...
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by The Negation on Dec 13, 2009 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
But he's done alot of WW and earned his shot. It's also still a huge mental challenge to step into your first title fight.
well, there aren’t too many UFC LW’s that i can think of who would be ahead of Sanchez. not going to name fighters outside of the UFC as they have nothing to do with it.. a couple of guys that comes to mind when i think of good UFC LW’s are, Maynard, Florian, Edgar, Griffin they’re battle tested at LW with good records. It would be a dream to see who’d win between Huerta and Sanchez, I’m really not too sure. Sanchez strength doesn’t seem to be the same as it was at WW.
Most stupid thing though was to try to outbox BJ, you’re supposed to outkick the boxer in a matchup like that. It takes away from his movement and ability to turn into the punches, it makes it easier to get a takedown too. He only tried high kicks, which was completely wrong.
I will
I’ll argue that Diego is the #2 LW in the world… BJ is just in another world
by PHISH NATION on Dec 13, 2009 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
very likely. NNR is delusional
Diego has beaten all the LW gatekeepers, Florian, Joe Daddy, and Guida. He’s beaten Karo and Nick Diaz. Before tonight he was 23-2 with his only losses being to TOP-5 WELTERWEIGHTS. How could he not be Top 10? He’s easily TOP 3-5 in the UFC.
Dirty Sanchez
I luv it, ole dirty got the shit kicked out of him and he still had that dumbass look on his face after the fight, well with alot of swelling and vagina on his forehead.
Diego is insane.
BJ is a killer, 1st head kick i ever remember seeing from him, and it finishes a fight.
Mir backed up his talking, tooled Kongo. I’m glad I stayed on Mir’s bandwagon
Fitch needs to fight some names… people talk about Hughes fighting no-names.
Struve needs some stand up work
Damarcus fight was good
Glad Kenny took out Guida.
dont chirp fitch for fighting a nobody
He was supost to fight ricardo almeda and he got hurt then he was supost to fight tiago alves…..matt hughes doesnt fight people by choise ……fitch does it because he had to
This time Golddiggah...
This isn’t John’s first kick at the can so to speak. In his last 15 fights he’s fought 3 good fighters. Only two of those fighters are in the top 20 WW rankings.
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i wouldnt even consider peirce a can
he is a good tough fighter ….and if there wernt any injuries he would of been fighting a destroyer
Fitch is still a piece of crap. How many times did that spare give up his back only to have Fitch just sit on it?
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.

Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
What does a fat homosexual have to do with the fact that Fitch is hands down the most boring fighter in the UFC and can’t finish a fight to save his life?
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
i dont get it either PW…. i wish i could delete stupid pictures that make me want to punch fat people…
by Synyster_08 on Dec 13, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Pierce isn't a can
But he isn’t top 40 material. Should the number 3 WW be fighting top 40 guys? Did he end up finishing Pierce? I am serious, I think I fell asleep during that fight. I can’t remember a thing about it.
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If there weren't any injuries Fitch would have been losing to a destroyer.
He fights cans to boring decisions and fights good fighters to boring decisions. Do you see the pattern?
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That was 3 and a half years ago
and Fitch was the first good fighter Alves had fought. Fitch always ends up fighting a rookie or a can. He has canner’s luck.
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Fitch vs Alves, let's do it.
Fitch wouldn’t have a chance to finish him, GSP couldn’t and he’s still alot more dangerous and better than Fitch is.
Fitch's fights
have been pretty boring lately. When I see him on the main card I’m like “oh shit, another fight that goes the distance with little excitement”.
BJ p4p
I think it’s fair to say the BJ is right up there with GSP and AS p4p. He’s been totally dominant at LW. Personally I have it GSP—1, BJ—2, Fedor—3, AS—4.
And then God said "Let there be light," to which Chuck Norris replied, "say please."
anderson should be #1
just saying he is the only guy on that list that wins at more then 1 weight class and if he fought gsp he would tool him
True..
GSP just can’t compete at 185. It’s sad because that would be a great fight. As soon as Rua captures the 205 title (again), maybe we can see a Rua vs Silva fight?
that would ROCK!
I’d love to see Rua vs Silva! But I don’t want Silva to get the belt cause there are too many top guys that he refuses to fight.
That has nothing to do with P4P Golddiggah
Moving from weight to weight, does nothing for you P4P status. Some people just can’t move around in weight classes and be effective. i.e. GSP, BJ, Brock.
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Remains to be seen
Remains to be seen if Gsp can move up or down has he ever done it? until then you are just speculating. Your opinion only counts to you
by The real ZACK on Dec 13, 2009 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying he can't move
I haven’t seen him fight at MW and win, have you? I didn’t even notice how wrong frosnt1’s rankings are.
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Well..
You said he wont be effective, and no one knows this. GSP would def do alot in middlewieght, this guy trains with guys heavier than him all the time so to say he wont be effective is not really a good assesment. IF not middleweight then at catchweight he would def do damage.
And thers def a double standard when judging Fedor’s opponent and every other top guy’s. Fedor fights cans while everyone fights the contenders gimme a break. Either way Fedor never loses to guys he should be which is everyone, and other guys lose to guys the should beat ex. Anderson, GSP
by The real ZACK on Dec 13, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
agree with you, jay
jumping weight classes isn’t the point. BJ has lost 4 of 5 times he’s jumped weight and that hasn’t hurt him IMO as far as P4P. Silva is just now starting to fight guys his own size. Why should he get bonus points for beating up MWs who are 30-40 lbs smaller than him. Would anybody give GSP more P4P credit for cutting down to beat up Jose Aldo or Uriah Faber?. I think it’s funny how people will discredit Fedor on P4P for beating up guys like Babalu, Arona, and Lindland, who are 15-25 lbs smaller than him, but then they’ll sing the praises fo Anderson Silva who’s made a whole career out of beating guys 25-40 lbs smaller and only fought 3 guys near his own size…just because he can dehydrate himself to rediculous levels. Is this Ultimate Fighting Championship or The Biggest Loser Finale?
Like it or not there's more to MMA than just the fighting
Andy is the best athlete, as well as the most well rounded and dominant fighter in the sport today. Weight cutting may not interest you but it’s always been a part of professional fighting and the fact that Andy has looked after his body so well and is always in excellent shape no matter what weight he fights at only adds to his legacy.
Fighting in different weight classes does count to p4p status, rather than relying on hypothetical matches Andy proves that he is indeed the best in all of MMA by fighting the best at their proper weight and still beating them. Manny Pacquiao is doing the same thing in boxing, constantly going up in weight and destroying the best at their weight, proving that he’s the best in the sport. Sure you only have to dominate your weight class, like Andy, BJ, GSP and Fedor, to be counted as a top p4p fighter but getting yourself in shape to fight at different weight classes and dominate them as well as your own proves that you’re the best and puts all of these hypothetical arguments to rest. Only Andy and BJ (and Fedor if you consider him a 205lb fighter fighting at HW) have tried to fight and dominate at different weights and whilst BJ had some great moments he’s not been as dominant as Andy and had some crushing losses at higher weights. Randy tried to do the same thing (dominate at different weights) and at one point was a p4p great but nowadays he’s completely irrelevant to these discussions.
"I’m in great shape...I feel 100% you know it’s nice to move my hips and not have any problems...I’ll take my loss as a man. I’m willing to die for my cause, are you?" Tito Ortiz before UFC 106
"I wasn’t able to spar at all...I had bulging disks...I want to see somebody fight with a cracked skull, I came in and stepped in with a cracked skull...why the fuck did you give that fight of the night?...for me not getting Fight of the Night I’m taken aback by it...I gave my heart and soul and to be robbed like that, yeah it is what it is." Tito Ortiz after UFC 106
hit the nail right on the head.
herse one for u then.if bj had the same physical capacites as gsp who would win?im not trying to start an argument but gsp mauled bj due to size,strength,athleticism as well as skill.like u said its not just skill now,a guy less talented can now hang if hes supremely conditioned.
Anderson only has 1 win
against a TOP-5 fighter (Forrest) in HIS OWN weight class (LHW). I give him credit for his wins over Franklin and Hendo too, cause those guys are big enough to fight at LHW and be TOP-10. But like I said, unless you’d give credit to GSP for cutting down and beating up Feather and Bantamweights, all but 3 or 4 of Silva’s fights shouldn’t even register on P4P, cause he’s not a real MW. He’s a 225-230 pounder beating up guys two weight classes beneath him. He’s closer in size to Fedor, Nog, JDS, and Cain than he is to guys like Cote, Leites, and Lutter. Don’t get me wrong, I think Silva is phenomenal, and will easily beat 90% of the top LHWs. But until he does that, he doesn’t even belong in the P4P discussion cause he’s only fought smaller guys. Imagine if 25 of Fedor’s wins had been against Babalus and Aronas, or GSP had spent most of his career dominating Featherweights. Would we be talking about them as P4P greats?!?
Fedor has fought guys from 190 to 330 lbs and beaten ALL of them. GSP has destroyed every top guy his size, as has BJ. It’s time for Silva to man up and fight guys his own size who aren’t stylistically hand-picked for him like Forrest and Irvin were. He should’ve been fighting Shoguns, Machidas, Coutures, Thiagos, and Rampages all along (at least). He’s bigger than half of those guys.
Mir won, damn'
well, Mir looked impressive and his noggin is already swelled up, now we got to listen to all the crap he’s going to talk for mths now.
I know. I still think all that muscle will make him gas faster than before. War BJ!!!
by StringBeanRickJamesLookinFool on Dec 13, 2009 1:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh he will for sure
A man with a history of gassing who’s never really fought for more than a few minutes on average in all his fights. I wanna see him matched against Dos Santos after he beats up Yvel.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 13, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
God he lost me my fn parlay.
I was so pissed. Just fn pissed. I hope they match him with carwin and we watch him get mashed. I know big nog would gladly take on him.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 13, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
You’re not the only one, Mir fond a way to pissed me off again with his fn luck. God I hate him and I still think that he’s an irrelevant prick. As I said before, beating Kongo means nothing. He will get expose again very soon.
As for BJ…well I guess I was wrong about him. He really showed me why once I was in admiration of his abilities to dominate his opponents. His new work ethic really paid off. He fixed his cardio, he looked very good, better than ever with his stand up, in fact he completely dominated Diego and he had phenomenal TDD as always. I just don’t know what else to say right now except of wow. Good fight for BJ and it wasn’t even close.
Can his ego get even bigger though?
His prick level will reach unheard of levels after this. He’s gonna talk about how he dropped the best striker in the division and that he’s the greatest ever.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 13, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
We already heard a bit of it, with his brilliant analysis of the difference between American boxing and European boxing. Next week he’s gonna say that he’ll beat Badr easily also.
I'd like to see him box David Haye or the Klitschko Bros
Then we’d see what he has to say about European boxing after that.
"I’m in great shape...I feel 100% you know it’s nice to move my hips and not have any problems...I’ll take my loss as a man. I’m willing to die for my cause, are you?" Tito Ortiz before UFC 106
"I wasn’t able to spar at all...I had bulging disks...I want to see somebody fight with a cracked skull, I came in and stepped in with a cracked skull...why the fuck did you give that fight of the night?...for me not getting Fight of the Night I’m taken aback by it...I gave my heart and soul and to be robbed like that, yeah it is what it is." Tito Ortiz after UFC 106
100%
Mir wouldnt last a second with those guys or anyone in mma for that matter
by The real ZACK on Dec 13, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Word Dave. Mir is a complete moron.
Speaking of Klitschko and Haye….. great win for Vitali last night. Do you think that your boy Haye will stop being a puss and fight him next?
by Alpha Male. on Dec 13, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Of course
As I predicted alpha male would still run his mouth and cry like a little bitch after he destroyed kongo, I guess dropping kongo in the stand up game where everyone thought kongo would kill mir and being the first guy to finish big nog just isnt enough. The only thing that is irrelevant is your posts.
Ok that was probably belligerent and immature, my bad. But I already explained it to you the reasons of my hates for Mir in another thread. Why it’s so hard for you to understand. Just mind your own business and stop getting into my discussion( that you aren’t part of it) with your stupid comments every time that you post.
I understand you hate him
You can hate all you want, he will just keep on winning fights and proving you wrong, looks good on you. Good call on the penn sanchez fight also.
Mir
And mir will tool big nog again, face just because you hate mir doesnt mean he isnt a title contender and he just keeps proving it.
I agree that Mir would/will drop Nog again,
but not because Mir is good.
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How can you say that
He wont beat brock but he is a good fighter and a contender.
A good fighter but not great.
He’s not much to get excited about.
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He looked low and threw high -very revolutionary business
Kongo was so worried about the takedown that he didn’t see the punch coming. There is no mysterious american vs european boxing styles bs. Kevin Randleman did it to Cro Cop and no one declared him a god after that fight. Frank Mir still sucks and is a quitter IMO, the fact that he’s added all that muscle to an already proven gasser only makes him worse. The fact that he didn’t let go of that guillotine and simply applied brutal force to it tells me that he didn’t think he could offer anything to Kongo off of his back. There is a reason why it’s pretty conventional wisdom in MMA or grappling to let go of guillotines if the guy is in either half guard or side. He probly knew that Kongo would find a way to fuck it up. I seriously think his grappling is extremely overrated especially after seeing him clamp down to lesnar in half guard while fully knowing that brock would want to pin on his hips. I wanna see him matched against either Dos Santos or Gonzaga. I think either of those two would expose him to be the same guy whose ass was getting kicked by Wes Sims. Feel free to disagree!
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 13, 2009 2:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Biased hate clouding another persons opinion
He would kill gonzaga but lose to dos santos, dos santos is the new HW champ once he gets his shot.
Or he didn’t let go of the guillotine because Kongo is an upside down turtle on the ground and was completely incapable of defending it, so Mir choked that dumb bastard unconscious.
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
lol… thats what i was thinking PW… that, and why let go if you’re that deep on the hold? a lot of guys get the guillotine from half guard nowadays… Dan Miller got it on Rosholt… and some WEC guys got it ( know that doesn’t help a lot ,but i went braindead)
by Synyster_08 on Dec 13, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
But did you guys see the distance in between them?
You could pass a freight train through there. Mir was barely hanging on to the inside of Kongo’s right knee with the ankle of his right leg. If it had slipped down a couple more inches, it would have not been worth the risk. I know which guys you’re talking about syn and i am not syaing that It’s not possible to lock it up but position first man, i just don’t think it’s worth the risk of a) letting the guy pass and b) blowing your arms out. Especially if the guys has a semi potent gnp. But hats off to Mir, as much as i hate him, much like forrest he has nowhere to hide.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 13, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
He beat Brock in his second fight
And he still got lucky when Spaz stood them up for no reason. Brock destroyed him in the rematch and if he comes back at 100% will do so again.
"I’m in great shape...I feel 100% you know it’s nice to move my hips and not have any problems...I’ll take my loss as a man. I’m willing to die for my cause, are you?" Tito Ortiz before UFC 106
"I wasn’t able to spar at all...I had bulging disks...I want to see somebody fight with a cracked skull, I came in and stepped in with a cracked skull...why the fuck did you give that fight of the night?...for me not getting Fight of the Night I’m taken aback by it...I gave my heart and soul and to be robbed like that, yeah it is what it is." Tito Ortiz after UFC 106
Mir looked what?
Come take it easy did anyone really think Kongo had more than a punchers chance be serious. Before Joe Rogan can ride him I still want to see him do that to Velasquez,Carwin , or a healthy Big Nog. And im not sayin he cant but lets just hold off on the Frank Mir Suckin off
He looked impressive!
Everyone knew if frank was gonna win he was gonna sub him! How many people thought he would drop kongo?? Nobody did! Give the guy some credit he just dominated a fight alot of people on here were picking him to lose!
by ItsNormlToSmokePot on Dec 13, 2009 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly
Anyone could get dropped thats not really a surprise. Neither is him finishing the fight by submission. Velasquez would have demolished Kongo if only he had more power at the time. Same with Gilbert Ivel who was demolishing Kongo on the ground . Kong is just a little over rated JUST a little Lol
by The real ZACK on Dec 13, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
Yet he destroyed cro cop at cro cop’s own game that must make cro cop vastly overrated according to you.
Cro Cop's been done since the Gonzaga fight
He is not the same man that dominated Pride, he’s tentative, old and too small these days to compete with the best HWs. Besides Kongo had to fight dirty to win, he was lucky to not get DQ’d for all of the knees to the balls.
"I’m in great shape...I feel 100% you know it’s nice to move my hips and not have any problems...I’ll take my loss as a man. I’m willing to die for my cause, are you?" Tito Ortiz before UFC 106
"I wasn’t able to spar at all...I had bulging disks...I want to see somebody fight with a cracked skull, I came in and stepped in with a cracked skull...why the fuck did you give that fight of the night?...for me not getting Fight of the Night I’m taken aback by it...I gave my heart and soul and to be robbed like that, yeah it is what it is." Tito Ortiz after UFC 106
Greasegate II
The reason CroCop has been tentative in the octogon is that every time he throws his first high kick, his other leg slips out from under him. I think whatever the UFC uses to clean up blood on the floor makes it slick. Guys are sliding around like Ice Capades in a lot of these fights. On a slick floor, CroCop’s legendary weapon of choice is neutralized and he’s like a gator with no teeth.
The Cro COp
he fought clearly was a few years too late. Believe me when I tell you. If you knew about MMA during the real pride days to actually see Cro Cop’s fighting style you would know that he def was not the same fighter. However its a point that we can debate forever. Bottom line Mir needs to beat a top contender before I can give him his props. As for him exposing Velasquez, that remains to be seen until then stop the sucking. BTW with the way Nog let Coutoure hit him, I kind of makes you wonder if he would be able to stand up with Mir again. Its good to see shonuff still believes in his boy hood hero but sometimes greatness is LOST.
by The real ZACK on Dec 13, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
what childhood hero are you talking about?
I hate Mir and totally agree that CroCop is not the same man he was in PRIDE.
Nogeura
i read where u said Nog would be him in a rematch or maybe i read wrong my fault. Im just as big a fan of NOg as anyone but at this stage in his career i dont know if he would take Mir in a rematch. Nog has horrible head movement and isnt taking shots as he once did in pride. Either way Im not a fan of Mir or any fighter that uses his mouth more than his fist. The great fighter know they can beat everyone and dont have to go around saying it.
by The real ZACK on Dec 13, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I did say that
I think a healthy Nog will beat Mir, even the new beefed up Mir. I guess you could say I’m a Nog fan in that I consider him the most talented and accomplished HW in the UFC now…maybe ever. But he’s not one of my favorite fighters at all. I don’t particularly like him, I just think he’s that good and his record speaks for itself. If Brock were within 25-30 lbs of Nog, I’d give Nog the edge over him too. I think the Mir win over Nog was a fluke due to Nog being rediculously ill and stupid enough to fight anyway. As for him being my childhood hero, I am older than Nog and had graduated from University before he started fighting and while I have seen most of his fights on DVD, I have seen them all in the last 3-4 years since I discovered PRIDE.
This one is for you...
NIGHTMARESANCHEZ and The Legacy. Your boy got OWNED.
You may begin suckling to heal your injuries now…
dont worry
NIGHTMARE SANCHEZ will never return here ever again….unless it is under a new screen name
He seemed to have an obsession with me
Creepy bastard. His insults were appalling, a child could come up with something more original. They did give me a good laugh though, mind you the drink helped as well haha.
"I’m in great shape...I feel 100% you know it’s nice to move my hips and not have any problems...I’ll take my loss as a man. I’m willing to die for my cause, are you?" Tito Ortiz before UFC 106
"I wasn’t able to spar at all...I had bulging disks...I want to see somebody fight with a cracked skull, I came in and stepped in with a cracked skull...why the fuck did you give that fight of the night?...for me not getting Fight of the Night I’m taken aback by it...I gave my heart and soul and to be robbed like that, yeah it is what it is." Tito Ortiz after UFC 106
Haha..
I’m sure if the Mods didn’t get to him already… I’m sure he will return as some other nuthugger/troll.
John Fitch will never be Champion
I mean this guy has not changed one part of his game since losing to GSP. He has not improved on nothing. He seems content to just beat lesser wreslters with his wrestling. As long as GSP is Champ Fitch wont have a shot. I think Tiago might even destroy him now but that remains to be seen
True
You can definitely see what losing to GSP did to Fitch. It literally took his fighting soul. I think we’ll see the same thing from Diego Sanchez. You could actually see Diego’s fighting career go down the shitter in the first 20 seconds of the fight when he got dropped and learned what fighting a champion was all about. BJ 2.0 vs GSP 3 . . .
War BJ!!!!
Hats off to Mir
I talked a lot of shit on Mir previously before this fight. I said he over-looked Kongo which could possibly bite him in the ass. Obviously, it did not and Mir really did talk professionally after the fight.
I was really surprised with Mir’s attitude after the fight.
wow
some of yall disgust me…mir completely dominated a guy yall were rooting for to knock mir out. mir not only dropped him and shocked many, but freakkin put the bigass frenchie to sleep. i sincerely think some credit is due here. mirs not even a prick, he does what he has to do to sell fights and give completely honest interviews and answers to questions. whats wrong with a brutaly honest guy? some mma fans yall are…
When every one of his 'honest' answers
consist of him telling everyone how great he is, or how smart he is, it tends to wear on people.
Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.
hey is used to love Mir
and the whole cinderella story – coming back from the bike accident to recapture the title.
I WAS a fan….
His yapping is what makes me hope he gets punked in the UFC.
Took risks betting on the dogs @ 107 - Thank god for Hendricks, Wiman, Palhares and good'ol reliable Jon Fitch UD! Could have been a lot worse.
I guess Bj has outgrown the lightweight division
the only guy he can fight next is florian again. Id rather see him fight Tyson Griffin though.
Mir vs Carwin
Mir vs Carwin for the interim. With Cain and Big Nog tied up thats the only fight that makes sense. So mr WHIT lets see it!!!
I'm good with that.
Or Nog/Mir for the interim, since they were the last two beltholders besides Brock.
Diego Sanches
Asshole LOL You r nothing Mr YES YES LOL Now u have that nice scar to remember the best ever Bj Penn, go eat some beans now YES YES LOL
Win or lose
I love watching Clay fight! Congrats to all the winners!
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Still Mir haters...oh and for Thorazine
i understand he’s cocky…?so is Brock?? or u could say its confidence… Now its like Kongo was nothing…?? Whatevs, we’ll never agree…but at least we can agree we’ll never agree….Mir is the only true high caliber HW HW Brock has defeated…and on my count their even…and we wont hear the end til they fight again.
and its not “Mir won..Damn”…Its Mir destroyed GODDAM!! Nobodys done that to Kongo except Cain and Cain took 3 rds. to do it… whats better than submitting a WORLD CLASS stand up guy..?? Rockin him and then submitting him.. Enough said…
and as for answering 1 aspect of my big blog…if u read over it again…i not only asked questions in my response, but i also answered openly and suggested other opinions… Thorazine… i agree Brock is the BIGGEST best fighter which coincided with my small take on, yes there should be a Super Heavy Weight, but there isnt… and Mir is tryin to fix that weight deficit….we saw success in the power…but we need to see his conditioning with his newly acquired physique.. Im just proud of Mir for trying..constantly, to better himself so that he always has a chance against any person… Kongo doesnt and wont…he’ll be a gatekeeper at best… Brock did drop Mir, twice in their 1st encounter…but nobody expected much except that he wanted to GnP so Mir stepped it up n got the stand up down.. then Brock didnt stay on the feet and had an awesome gameplan that used his size to his advantage…and so i guess again we didnt see Mir’s “world class Stand up”…? thats because Kongo couldnt take 1 hit w/o goin down n everyone knew once it went to the floor it was over!!! Stamp it mail it receive a loss.
But im here to support who i like and root for…and much like mir try to convince people with words… if u missed out on my whole shpeel on mir’s Cockiness i think he covered it pretty well as i did on my comment on the weigh in results…about 2 pages back…. but yes i think mir and carwin would be an awesome match up…
-Holla

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