Frank Mir: I drove myself insane thinking I might never fight Lesnar again
by Jesse Holland on Dec 10, 2009 12:13 PM EST
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"I remember I panicked when he stuck me against the cage (at UFC 100) and then I remember staring at Herb. I even made a joke like, ‘I didn’t get out, did I?’ When I saw Brock screaming and yelling at me I was confused because I was thinking, ‘What happened from the time I blacked out and the time I woke up?' When he got sick it screwed up my training because he was such a driving force for me. I went into a depression for two to three days where I didn’t go to the gym, I got sick — I drove myself insane thinking we may possibly not fight again. I couldn’t live with that."
Heading into his UFC 107 bout against Cheick Kongo on Saturday night (Dec. 12), former UFC Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir reflects on the Brock Lesnar health situation and how the loss of the current champ nearly put the Zuffa veteran in a Las Vegas nut house. Mir is 1-1 against the recuperating goliath and uses the tease of a rubber match to fuel his current drive back to the top of the contender list. Will Cheick Kongo stop him from getting there?
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Why in the hell does he want to fight Lesnar again? Fight 1: Lesnar dominating until il Moustache intervened and handed Mir a win. Fight 2: Lesnar pounded Mir into a bloody mess. Totals: roughly 10 minutes of fighting between Lesnar and Mir, with Lesnar dominating all but 5 seconds.
Good times and riches and son of a bitches
I've seen more than I can recall.
Now your gonna get it.
How dare you question Mazagatti’s decision making abilities.
by BNF on Dec 10, 2009 12:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
True…Mir is doing a good job tho of being a controversial fighter who can sell tix for the UFC
by drudog1715 on Dec 10, 2009 12:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why eeryone keep saying that he will get a TD?
The guy can’t shoot for shit and his wrestling sucks… plus he’s a weak bitch. Sorry it won’t happen.
True.
Depends if Kongo is smart enough to just stand up. Personally I think Kong beats his ass.
by HappyLittleTreez on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
He will pull guard?
well, smart! that will make it that much easier for Kongo to finish him, Kongo hasn’t been submitted in the UFC yet and it won’t happen until he’s fighting a guy like Nogueira or a ground specialist like that, believe me Mir is far from being a Nogueira on the ground.
Kongo has got the standup over Mir, he’s got the wrestling, he’s got the GnP and the mentality to never give up!
Mir will prove you wrong come Saturday and show why he is one of the best Heavy weights in the world
your not talkin about Chieck Kongo right
but some other Kongo who apparently has wrestling.
dude.....i am
Thats a bold statement
but say thats true Mir still has a marked advantage on the ground from his back or top position
dude.....i am
It's true.
sure, Mir has better subs than Kongo, but Kongo has good sub defense and won’t be submitted by Mir from the bottom.
Decision? I hope your kidding.
This won’t get out of the first round and if it does it’s safe to say that it will end in the 2nd. Kongo will come out like a house on fire and pound the sh!t out of Frank.
If Mir pulls guard, Kongo will G n P the BS out of him!
Kongo will use his super long limbs to keep his disrtance from MIR, picking him apart from tyhe outside with powerful, crisp and accurate striking. when Mir closes the distance he will be punished with brutal knees to the body and we all know that Mir is sweet in the gut (kind of like the UFC’s very own King Hippo lol).
Mir is an egomaniac who will want to test his stand up against Kongo which will be his downfall.
I know that Mir has bulked up and gotten stronger but that wont matter in the match up. Kongo’s TD defense is better than Mir;s takedown so this fight will stay standing until Kongo lands a few on Mir. I hope to see Mir gety busted up bad again!
once again Mir gets a tailormade opponent…hopefully it backfires and kongo does what he is supposed to do! Also Mir’s obssession with Brock means Kongo is being overlooked. Mir is so arrogant, that he cant get Brocks name out of his mouth even when he has a very dangerous opponent in kongo in front of him. If Mir wins this fight I will be sick to my stomach! Im still waiting to see thois so called ju jitsu wizard do something significant on the ground against someone with a ground game. seeing him tap will end the myth of his over rated jits!
Kongo by KO
Mir’s too bothered about Lesnar and is taking Kongo lightly, big mistake. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mir catches Kongo with a submission as he’s the worst grappler in the division, trains at one of the weakest camps (especially in grappling) and is one of the dumbest fighters in the sport but Mir is saying all of the wrong things and could end up getting a vicious beating. I don’t care either way as long as one of them loses badly, then I never have to see them acting smug again.
"I’ll continue to watch their events and I hope they’ll (Zuffa) tune in to my fights in Strikeforce. After all, I’m a true fan of our fantastic sport and would love only to see MMA continue to grow."
Dan Henderson, classy.
"The reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal... I wanted him to s**t or get off the pot."
Dana White, classless.
I agree he really shouldn’t be taking Kongo lightly, even if he does win tho how far away from a title shot is he? Surely he would have to rematch nog before another fight with lesner happens? That is the fight I really want to see, I believe Mir only won because nog was on deaths door but he still won regardless. Make it happen next ufc no matter who wins with Kongo vs Mir and nog vs Cain please!!!
by eagzy on Dec 10, 2009 12:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kongo isn't the worst grappler in the division
He’s just not fighting smart when facing an opponent with great wrestling, thing is Mir’s wrestling s*cks! It would be a total shocker to me if Mir catches Kongo in a submission as he’s overrated on the ground and won’t submit Kongo from his back.
I could go ahead and bet my car my home and everything i own on Kongo, it’s that safe of a bet!
Mir can’t beat Kongo and he will be finished in 1 round!
Name one HW with worse grappling than Kongo
He has appalling TDD and no BJJ, plus fights like a moron against wrestlers. His grappling is just as bad as it was back when Marrerro dominated him for 15 minutes.
"I’ll continue to watch their events and I hope they’ll (Zuffa) tune in to my fights in Strikeforce. After all, I’m a true fan of our fantastic sport and would love only to see MMA continue to grow."
Dan Henderson, classy.
"The reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal... I wanted him to s**t or get off the pot."
Dana White, classless.
True
I remember watching Ryan Bader dominate Carmelo Marrero for 15 minutes, thinking, Geez, Marrero was the guy who held down Kongo for 3 rounds. It’s not outlandish to think 205-pound Ryan Bader could get an easy win against Kongo.
well, his submission defense is good and that’s about all you need when you’re as big and powerful as he is, he will pound guys like Mir out from top position every day of the week. If we’re gonna talk about takedowns he’s also better than Mir.
Both of them have horrible takedowns, some of the worst in the division. Off his back Kongo has no offense and isn’t good at getting up either, unless the ref stands them up then Kongo is stuck on the ground for the duration of the round. His grappling is horrendous and hasn’t improved at all. He’s not been submitted but not that many HWs have great submissions, he’d be tapping in seconds against Big Nog or Fedor and I wouldn’t be surprised if Mir catches him in one either.
"I’ll continue to watch their events and I hope they’ll (Zuffa) tune in to my fights in Strikeforce. After all, I’m a true fan of our fantastic sport and would love only to see MMA continue to grow."
Dan Henderson, classy.
"The reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal... I wanted him to s**t or get off the pot."
Dana White, classless.
Probabaly, he always gives up as soon as he takes punches no matter who’s on top.
"I’ll continue to watch their events and I hope they’ll (Zuffa) tune in to my fights in Strikeforce. After all, I’m a true fan of our fantastic sport and would love only to see MMA continue to grow."
Dan Henderson, classy.
"The reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal... I wanted him to s**t or get off the pot."
Dana White, classless.
his line is +140 to +180
if you were curious. not sure how that translates when youre talking material posessions though
dude.....i am
LOL sorry to say roberto he's going to lsoe every play you make.
then your really going to hate Mir!? just remember Puck Head told you so.
If his psyche is this fragile...
He needs to be put on suicide watch after Lesnar smashes him again.
Please kill Frank Mir
God, I hate Mir. The dude is such a dick. He’s always got this stupid look on his face like his shit don’t stink. He does nothing but trash his opponents, then he’s shocked when Lesnar gets in his face after he already crushed him. What comes around goes around. Please kill Frank Mir Kongo.
Agreed
He is over-looking Kongo and could possibly bite him in the ass. I hope Kongo beats the shit out of this curly headed fuck.
And proves a lot if a top striker and good wrestler can't beat him besides brock who can?
honestly he is on the same level as NOG, Carwin and Cain and like it or not he stays ahead of all them with a win Saturday.
BAHAH, say what?
Mir on the same level as Nog? hold up buddy. first of all, he’s not going to win. 2nd of all, he’s behind alot of HW’s. Carwin, Gonzaga, Cain, Dos Santos, Lesnar, hell even Herring would beat him and probably stop him!
and what is that weakness you're talking about?
Mir’s weakness is his mentality, he gives up when he’s getting pounded on. You’ll see it happen again this saturday, just like how he gave up against Brock 2 times and got saved by Maz the 1st, Pe de pano, Vera..
No fighter could take those puches brock gave roberto
Like it or not Mir has a victory lately over NOG and has faced tougher competition than any of those guys you listed and thats a fact. Mir is looking like what many believe now that he is off the bottle, just wait mir will make a believer out of you.
He's sleeping on Kongo...
Sure he has the advantage on the ground but he has to get it there first. Cain took him down at will but will Mir be able to? Kongo by TKO
by HappyLittleTreez on Dec 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions
Hmmm...
Gonna be tough to beat Kongo, cause Kongo’s always chasin that ‘teetle’
by drudog1715 on Dec 10, 2009 12:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Give me a teetle shot
After beating Al-Turk…laughable. I honestly despise both him and Mir equally.
"I’ll continue to watch their events and I hope they’ll (Zuffa) tune in to my fights in Strikeforce. After all, I’m a true fan of our fantastic sport and would love only to see MMA continue to grow."
Dan Henderson, classy.
"The reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal... I wanted him to s**t or get off the pot."
Dana White, classless.
Mir is a cocky douche
I hope Kongo KO’s his ass, if for no other reason than he can’t pronounce the word “guillotine”. It’s not “gill-a-teen”, it’s “gee-a-teen”. If you get paid to speak, you should know these things.
Hadoken!!
Mir is such an arrogant bloviating buffoon.
Dude always has to make himself the center of every topic.
@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
He is passing Tito for sure, and he's never even been dominant.
He beat guys like Tank Abbott when he was on top wow! Mir just wants to be like Tito and the other guys. he lost by TKO to Pe De Pano LOLZ!
I agree
Mir is soooooo overrated it’s insane. He’s beaten absolutely no one if you don;t count that gift-wrapped Nog victory.
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Kongo TKO
hope Mir gets KTFO im sick all his talking, if he was half as good in the octogon as he is as running his mouth about EVERYONE, he’d be champion again!!!
Mir
will take Kongo down, where he will submit him as though he had no MMA training whatsoever! Unless he egts silly and tries to prove he can stand with Kongo!
by Dana's a Crossdresser on Dec 10, 2009 12:32 PM EST reply actions
Really?
Frank Mir hater is one thing, making predictions based on that hate is another. Frank showed he can take punishment, he came out of that second fight looking like the elephant man so it’s safe to say he took a few to the face.
Cheik is going to have to be very lucky to hit him with “the one” that knocks him out on the way in, because that’s all he’s going to get. Once Mir realizes he can’t win it standing up he’s taking him down and once it’s gets to the mat they’re not getting up.
Mir is gonna own Kongo
…and Alpha is gonna pay the piper because of it.
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
lol
hope not. Though I’m glad to go with him instead of Diego. BJ’s hands looked very sharp in his open media workout.
Hey I didn't had the choice
I had to took an underdog. I would never had bet on that fight normaly, but he’s the best bet for a dog, so I’ll go with him. The hatred is just a bonus.
Alpha, nice to see you make some money.
It’s the lock of the year. Almost as much of a lock as Mitrione was for me.
Man's game Alpha
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
Also...
I think everyone needs to realize this is a hyped sport, before every fight all the fighters hate each other and blah blah blah. After the fight they’re hugs and kisses.
This is necessary and I’m sure promoted by Dana – they’re told to hype up the hate and excitement. Frank is just better at that part than fighting, he’s made all you guys take in the pay for view just to see him get killed.
I’ll be the one to say it – I gained a little respect for him after that Brock fight because the next day he flat out said I got the sh&t kicked out of me. He beat me up and I couldn’t do anything about it. Yes he talks alot of shit but afterwards he doesn’t make excuses. Broken foot, cracked skull, broken finger, he had too much vaseline on – and I had a sliver. If MMA fighters were compared to the wrestling industry, he’s the hulk hogan of the sport – promoter and trash talker extraordinaire, inside the ring – not so much.
Mir talks shit
Then cries about his kids watching MMA when anyone talks shit back. I have no problem with shit talk, as long as you are prepared to back it up or take some shit talk back. Mir does neither of those things, so I can’t stand him.
"I’ll continue to watch their events and I hope they’ll (Zuffa) tune in to my fights in Strikeforce. After all, I’m a true fan of our fantastic sport and would love only to see MMA continue to grow."
Dan Henderson, classy.
"The reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal... I wanted him to s**t or get off the pot."
Dana White, classless.
I like Mir!
I’ve always believed he’s one of the smartest fighters out there! And I don’t by the arrogant, big mouth jerk routine either! Tito taught me that lesson!
by Dana's a Crossdresser on Dec 10, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions
Mir will never fight Lesnar again
because he will never be a contender for the rest of his career. He had his time and simply doesn’t have the skill set to hang with the A fighters anymore. His only impressive win since coming back has been beating up a broken Big Nog (kneebaring a 1-0 Lesnar is not that impressive). I honestly don’t think Mir will win 2 fights in a row for the rest of his career.
Dream Scenario
He gets KO’d in devestating fasion Saturday by Kongo. As a rebound fight the UFC gives him Roy Nelson, who promptly submits him. On a three fight losing streak his career hits rock bottom when he fights Justin McCully on an undercard this time next year……..Oh, a man can dream.
From what Mir has shown us
If he lost to Kongo and then to Nelson he’d probably go all Chris Benoit on us.
I second that...
And Cro Cop might join him on suicide watch if he loses to Rothwell…..
I doubt it tho, cause Cro Cop is finally going to silence his critics with the complete domination of Ben Rothwell.
War MIRKO FILIPOVIC. I see Mir tapping Kongo in this fight, don’t really care for either of them so just hoping for a good fight.
I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!
Yeah, C'mon Mirko
Will always support Mirko. I was in Dallas when he lost to JDS, sadness only replaced by Vitor winning. I would love to see Mirko get back to his old self, just don’t think it will happen at this point.
I actually like Kongo, I just have no faith in him. Hoping he will suprise me Saturday. I really would love to see Mir knocked way way down the list
by domino effect on Dec 10, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Domino effect......
I like your style……Anyone who supports the Croatian Cop is ok with me!!
I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!
Mir will always be a UFC fighter
Believe it or not, a lot of casual fans know who Mir is and the UFC likes him a ton…I put him in the same category as Franklin, Chuck and Hughes as fighters who will always fight stay in the UFC
Kongo by knockout though
Mit is a top five HW and he's going to prove it once again
All these posters saying Kongo is the best striker in MMA and is going to KO Mir will soon be saying how bad of a fighter Kongo is because Mir is going to make him look bad. I can hear it know “Kongo wasn’t himself” or this or that and try and do everything but credit Mir with being a good fighter. I’m telling you right now Mir is going to make you look foolish on Saturday.
Kongo is terrible as well
I’m only predicting a Kongo KO because Mir is saying some stupid shit, but I can honestly say that I don’t care who wins, these are the 2 least likable HWs in MMA in my opinion.
"I’ll continue to watch their events and I hope they’ll (Zuffa) tune in to my fights in Strikeforce. After all, I’m a true fan of our fantastic sport and would love only to see MMA continue to grow."
Dan Henderson, classy.
"The reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal... I wanted him to s**t or get off the pot."
Dana White, classless.
I agree
I don’t care if I’m wrong or not, just making a prediction, if Mir wins great, a 3rd match with Brock will be epic, I wouldn’t myself a fool though
he's going to have to beat Carwin, NOG, Santos or Cain before he fights Brock again
Kongo is not a contender fight right now anyway, Kongo is more of a back to the middle of the bus and fight your way to the front type fight.
Man did I laugh watching Frank lifting weights!
Remember how he laughed at how stupid Brock was for lifting? “I’m a martial artist, not a weightlifter.”
You’d think he’d eventually learn that all his talking just backs himself into a corner. “Brock’s stupid for lifting weights, I’m a real figher. Oops, Brock killed me. Hey, look at me lift weights!”
There is no doubt Frank talks sh^t
he talks all the time I think just to be heard and he was talking out his ass when talking about Brock trying to piss Brock off enough that Brock would come out aggresssive and make a mistake but what happen is Brock stuck to his game plan and made every punch count. Mir is trying to do the same thing to Kongo, will it work? But there is no denying Mir is a great fighter.
he is ging to let you down puck
i don’t like kongo either so i don’t care if he loses, he should be taylor made for a guy like mir to beat and i still think he might lose. i don’t see kongo as a top hw so beating him won’t say alot to me but mir still won’t beat him or any true top 5 hw again.he is mid tier at best and he will prove it to you.
I don't think so and I still believe Mir is a top five roy1
Many like yourself believe kongo is Mirs Krytonite and Mir has the chance of proving his doubters wrong and what many thought was his weakbness is no longer. this is only Mirs fourth fight since dropping the booze and has looked better each fight even in his whooping against brock.
what are you talking about?
I DON’T THINK KONGO IS MIR’S KRYPONITE, i think kongo is not that good just that mir is probally worse. your making yourself look foolish with all this mir is top 5 crap he is a mid level fighter at best he should beat a guy like kongo but i still think he won’t and you won’t see him beating any to hw’s again.
Time will tell after he beats kongo we should see him face NOG, Carwin or Cain
I believe he will make many look foolish as man state on here Mir either has problems against wrestlers and mir has problems against strikers. kongo is a dangerous fighter for anyone to face and has a chance because he can KO you out and has great striking but thats his only chance against top fighters were Mir can finish the fight many ways and has.
I forgot about that
Once again Mir shows what a hypocrite he is. What a prat.
"I’ll continue to watch their events and I hope they’ll (Zuffa) tune in to my fights in Strikeforce. After all, I’m a true fan of our fantastic sport and would love only to see MMA continue to grow."
Dan Henderson, classy.
"The reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal... I wanted him to s**t or get off the pot."
Dana White, classless.
Mir could beat Kongo Blindfolded
Did any of you watch the countdown? MIR IS HUGE!!!!!
He is so motivated for a lesnar rematch that nobody is gonna stand in his way. Mark my word he is going to tear apart Kongo on saturday.
Mir's got this.
Kongo looked horrible in his last fight and I’m not buying the short camp shite. I would be into a Mir vs Lesnar rubber match if he beats big nog again. I never liked Mir until Lesnar beat him into a pulp. I just respect the guys insane obsession with beating Lesnar. And the hype sells so I can’t knock it. Mir by submission in the 2nd.
by DrewMoney$$$ on Dec 10, 2009 1:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
everyone always doubts MIR its so fucking funny. When Mir talks shit hes a piece of shit but anyone else is just hyping a fight… jesus
Gotta love Mir's obsession with Brock
I hope they fight again just 2 here Mir’s post fight comments after the 2nd epic beating he endures
so then Dad goes and turns the knife on her .. then he turns to me and sez ........................................... Why so Serious ??
Mir will win
Id rather they put him against Nogueira assuming he wins his fight also so Nogs can avenge his loss to Mir. Winner gets Brock.
not credible!!!
Normally I respect Frank Mir, but not now. Do you want fight again with Brock Lesnar? It seems not credible at all!!!!
"Normally I respect Frank Mir"
Why, he’s an overrated, arrogant , self-loving prick. He didn’t beat Lesnar the first time, Mazzagati beat him and he beat Nog because dude had a staph infection. Plus, he’s such a damn hypocrite. He bashes Brock for disrespecting him at 100, but he talks more trash than any fighter in the UFC.
i would like to see mir v. nog II
i think mir would win that fight again. i’m sorry all nog nut huggers out there, but nog has no power and no chin. he went toe to toe with randy and very little happened. i don’t think randy could go toe to toe with mir. he would get knocked out. i don’t see nog sumitting mir and without ko power, he will get worked in the standup. i don’t know if staph rewires the nerves in your chin or not, but a rematch with mir doesn’t look good from my point of view. if mir takes kongo down he should have an easy night of it. kongo is overrated.
by Conan the Barbarian on Dec 10, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions
You're not the only one not buying into the Nog Re-Hype
I think he’s done too.
Glad to be free from Intro's tyranny.
i agree.....you can only take so many beatings
i think rich franklin and nog both are great fighters who are wearing out. nog doesn’t have the chin he used to have and i don’t see him taking shots from any of the big heavyweights in the ufc very well. i think mir could have a decent run left in him, but nog is finished. the randy fight proved to me that he is gonna have trouble against a larger opponent..
by Conan the Barbarian on Dec 11, 2009 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
Very little happened? Huh?
Big Nog dropped Randy twice, how is that doing very little in the striking? Big Nog’s also a much more accomplished grappler than Mir. And how does he not have a chin? If anything it’s his defence that sucks because he’s so good at taking beatings that he doesn’t get flash KO’d, Mir only stopped him because he was static due to being in horrendous condition by having a severe staph infection, lets see what Mir can do against a fully fit Nog.
"I’ll continue to watch their events and I hope they’ll (Zuffa) tune in to my fights in Strikeforce. After all, I’m a true fan of our fantastic sport and would love only to see MMA continue to grow."
Dan Henderson, classy.
"The reality is that I pushed him into signing that deal... I wanted him to s**t or get off the pot."
Dana White, classless.
knocking down a 205 fighter twice is nothing.....he couldn't even finish him, and randy has a weak chin...
i also saw him get hit alot by randy. i don’t see him taking those shots from a heavier handed guy like mir…..yes, mir hits a shitload harder than randy. i think nog’s chin has cracked and i doubt his grapling will give him the advantage you claim. i think mir nulifies him on the ground and knocks him on his ass during the standup.
by Conan the Barbarian on Dec 11, 2009 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
Randy was 230 when they fought NOG stated he was in the best shape of his life
and it showed against Randy never count NOG out but it is a fact Mir beat him injured or not hurt or not as NOG himself has stated he rarely fights at 100%.
puck, mir would own nog again if they fought.
mir with another tko.
by Conan the Barbarian on Dec 13, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
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