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bleh..

they try soo damn hard to make him a big name and a mainstream star but it just isn’t working..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

yup..

he was the only fighter on the card..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

they do?

he’s never sold 100k ppv’s in 3 tries! I beg to differ and I’m a huge Fedor fan. This recent cbs sat night fights made him more known, but the average fan has no idea! We on a web site specifically geared towards mma, obviously know who he is, but go ask someone you work with! then ask who tito ortiz is, or royce or even kenny shamrock! All 3 of those guys could sell ppv’s still, yes, shamrock, just by name recognition coud sell more ppv’s than fedor!

by kevjack115 on Nov 29, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Go back to Sherdog, loser

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 30, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Could of done without the pic!!!

Anyon who read your text would of known what you were on about if they watched the show!!

I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!

by tkkpal on Nov 30, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

guyverbob is right..

you can’t make someone a star that doesn’t want to be a star in MMA.. Biggest russian name who’s also best in media is Maria Sharapova and she’s lived most of her life in the US of course..

by Tito-4-life! on Nov 29, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

thnx man..

i thought i wud get my dick bit off for saying that, cause ppl wud take it as an insult towards fedor wen thats not wat i ment to do, luckly were all good..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

And?

Show me another fighter who was never a “mainstream star” or a “big name” that garnered as much media and fan attention as Fedor.

Personally, if I were looking to always watch fighters that are the most mainstream, with the most star appeal….I’d only watch Lesnar or Kimbo fights. No thanks…..you can have them.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree intro

He’s a huge international star though, just not north america

by kevjack115 on Nov 29, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

huge international star? not exactly...

He’s as big international (except for Russia and Japan) as he is in the US… The UFC fighters that are big in the US are ofc also the biggest international stars.

I’ve been a fan of the sport for long and so i am a Fedor fan but even if i wasn’t a fan of his, I still watch the best compete just cause i like the sport. Fedor is an mma star as he’s the best but not a “media/mainstream” star if you know what i mean, and he really doesn’t care about being a star probably because he’s rich as hell.

by Tito-4-life! on Nov 29, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

"I dont want to be remembered as a Legend, I just want to be remembered as a nice guy"??

who the hell says that? Anderson silve is the only other champ thats even close to that cool a guy

by OM20 on Nov 29, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

I personally think the same,

He just comes across as a total regular guy, letting kids skip in the same training session as him and saying he loves hanging around with his parents and stuff like that, truly honerable stuff!! Gotta love him, just hope he doesnt lose unless its to another legend any time soon cause people will just think he was all hype when he is bar far "The baddest man on the planet " imo and even if he looses he will still be one of my favourite fighters of all time.

I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!

by tkkpal on Nov 29, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

GSP is pretty cool. Also I met Silva, and he is a dick when the camera’s aren’t around.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That's blasphemy jay

Andy is the man, he has no faults. Seriously I would like to think that he was just having a crappy day when you met him, that’s why they say never meet your idols, it can change how you feel about them.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry David

I know you are a big fan, but I have never been a fan. I don’t know what it is. He is a phenomenal fighter, my #1 P4P. I had a bad experience with him and he will never make up for it. I would never speak poorly of his skills though, that is the difference between me and most Fedor haters. I don’t allow my hate cloud my judgment.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

JAY

I never heard the story about u meeting A. Silva, so what happened? U got my curiosity up.

by THORAZINE on Nov 29, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I met Silva in Philly at 101

Cant quite say he not a nice guy but I can say fopr sure that Ed Soares is a dick in real life

dude.....i am

by brendog on Nov 30, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Thorazine

I was at a Muay Thai tourney last year with my son(competes) and Silva was there coaching some of his students. He sat in the dressing room alone for 3 hours, not wanting to talk to anyone. When my son was done we had to go to the same dressing room, I asked him for an autograph(pretending to be a huge fan). He just waved his hand and said No, No, nothing today. Not a big deal, but I know GSP wouldn’t do something like that. I never was a fan anyway, but this made me not like the MAN.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 30, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

great video

I cant wait for fedor/werdum free on cbs

by dia mette on Nov 29, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yawn

Ya Fedor against another ufc washout, can’t wait for that.

by mma guru on Nov 29, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of the current crop...

of UFC “stars” are also UFC washouts, or Pride washouts… The man has fought a lot of tough guys whatever you think and kicked all their asses. I see people’s views on fighters change so often on this site it’s ridiculous and I bet if Fedor signed with the UFC everyone who hates him now would soon change their tune.

Wasn’t so long ago everyone was saying Hardy had no power and now they’ve seen 2 of his 30 fights they’re saying he’s a hard hitter who only has a punchers chance against GSP. People jump to conclusions far too fast (this is just one example!).

Download all Fedor’s fights (which you can in one handy file as I did a couple of weeks back) if you don’t think he’s fought tough guys and that Lesnar would “destroy” him, watch how he copes with whatever’s handed to him and how skilful and powerful he is at all aspects of MMA before criticising him so much. The only UFC heavyweight who comes close is Nog, and Fedor’s beat him. Twice. When he was at his peak.

by Jimrod on Nov 29, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So current Nog is better than Lesnar?

Lesnar would murder Nog. Don’t forget Nog was losing to Tim and HH. Also don’t forget that Mir beat his ass. And it took a decision for Nog to beat Randy. Nog isn’t the best HW in the UFC, the champ is.

Aside from setting that record straight, Fedor would destroy every HW in the UFC except BL, SC and JDS. Those three fights would be exciting.

This is coming from one of Fedor’s non-fans.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know jay

 NOG has been testing himself and pushing himself were Fedor has yet really tested a top 5 fighter since NOG? It’s hard to say who would do what as both there fights against each other NOG was very one diminsional and has worked and changed that since? I think it’s a fight that could go either way still but would be a close one. There is no doubting either are still great fighters, but in Fedors case we really won’t find out how good when facing such low competition.

The reason Fedor is not as big a draw here is because new fans look at Fedor and look at the big guys in the UFC and for obvious reasons don’t think Fedor is fighting the best fights and thats what fans pay for. Would you pay to see BJ fight the 10th ranked opponent or GSP fight the 20th? If your a fan of either of coarse you will but if your looking for a great battle you would probally care less.

by BeaverRaider on Nov 29, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure how Nog would fare against Fedor

Nog wouldn’t beat 4 or 5 guys in the UFC let alone Fedor. Forget Nog, he’s done.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i disagree..

nogs a great fighter and a grat man too, we seen how he looked wen hes motivated for a fight like he was against randy, he looked really good, i think its alittle too early to say hes done..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

bob

Agree with the great man part. Nog and Fedor are both great people. I will never bash them as human beings. However, show me a fight in Nog’s past 6 where he has looked good. Great fighters like GSP, AS and Machida don’t get there heads bashed in fight in and fight out, just to win at the end. Nog is being dominated on the feet lately and against Fedor he wouldn’t get that chance to recover and pull a sub out of his ass.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

hhmm..

yea i shud’nt hav said the man part cause it mad it look like u called him a bad man wen u did’nt, srry i was just saying, well i can only say he looked good against randy, but that was his most recent fight and who knows if he might look as good in his next fight, i say lets wait for his next fight..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Nog = the nicest guy in MMA

His character and personality are faultless. I was devastated when Mir beat him, and he scraped a decision win over Sylvia as well as took a beating before submitting Sylvia which is what he’s made a career out of, but he destroyed Randy. He outstruck him and outgrappled him, dropping him twice, sweeping him from full guard to mount twice and almost submitted him twice, the fact that Randy survived was because of his heart and determination not a lack of quality in Nog. After that win I refuse to dismiss his chances of future success, sure he’ll never beat Fedor as he couldn’t beat him in his prime, but he’d be a tough opponent for Lesnar, Carwin and Cain and would destroy Mir in a rematch if he was 100%.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't agree

I don’t see IT in Nog any more. I wish I could say the same things as you, because I like Nog. I don’t think he is top of the heap anymore. I kind of hope I am wrong, because he is such a great guy.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I once thought that he was done

But he proved me so wrong against Randy, Couture may be past his best but Nog looked superb in that fight and he hasn’t looked that good in years. If he can stay healthy and keep training with his twin and Andy and keep focused on regaining the belt then I like his chances against most of the elite of the HW division, he won’t be an easy fight for anyone at 100%, I just wish that he’d stop relying on his chin and work on his boxing defence, Lil Nog needs to help him sort that part of his game out.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nog's head movement is really weak!

Nog is maybe 3rd best or something in the UFC’s HW division right now. . . I’d say JDS and Cain Velasquez are the two most talented guys, Brock and Carwin make up for alot with their physique and power.

by Tito-4-life! on Nov 29, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

oh please

You’re like a broken record….“UFC washouts…….UFC washouts…….UFC washouts…..”

And yet one of their best HW’s is a guy Fedor kicked the crap out of 2 or (3*) times.

They have one fighter that stands a chance against Fedor, and he’s hiding in Minnesota somewhere until he can get his shit….er, story………..straight.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Intro

What’s up man? Who are you talking to in this post?

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Not much

Talking to jimrod.

Watching Grey Cup.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh

The Fedor debate that won’t ever end!!!

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait?

Intro, didn’t you just agree with what I said, not disagree?

I dunno, this will be lost by the time anyone reads it anyway due to timezones :D

Jay, I know what you’re saying about Lesnar but I don’t think he’s that GOOD a fighter, just bigger than most, yes he’s athletic but I don’t think he’s particularly skillful – we don’t wrestle here in the UK so I don’t appreciate that as much as US guys probably do – but with that said I think Hendo is a great wrestler. Brock has a “natural” (natural my ass) advantage over pretty much anyone he fights against so he gets away with a lot. I’d like to see him against a good striker who can actually hit him hard. JDS was my best bet but he looked poor against a mentally unstable Cro Cop. Herring could have tested him but when old meatfist smashed his eyesocket with the first punch that put an end to that – which brings me back to the fact he still couldn’t finish that fight with his GnP style.

I dunno, I’m just getting really bored of wrestlers and “ring control”, takedowns etc being scored so highly in MMA – I think the fights should be stood up much faster when guys like Hughes, Randy (I know he stands up, in his case separated more quickly), Shields etc just lay on people for the duration. Brock is improving and learning still so I’ll give him that, and he does pummel them when he has them down (which I also hate, it doesn’t knock people out but mashes up their face – I’d just rather see big shots than the masturbation fists) but I’m just not into grown men lie on top of each other for 25 mins.

I’m a striker by training so I have an obvious bias, this is just my view on it.

by Jimrod on Nov 30, 2009 3:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Fedor Emelianenko, The never ending story by machinemen.

This 1/4 hour clip should be available for download on TSD or mma-torrents, it’s well worth a look and would let you see what Fedors all about, most of his fights rounded up into the best bits.

I"m no Ned Flanders punk!!

by tkkpal on Nov 29, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

Stopped watching once Gary "Jerry" Millen started talking

I can’t take anything that he is involved with seriously.

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by _Felix_ on Nov 29, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions  

But you watch Dana?

Those two guys are like twins. I swear they were just separated at birth. One went to M-1….one went to the UFC.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Millen's a sponge

And Dana’s not anymore because he has his own money now. So they aren’t exactly the same.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Still splittin’ hairs I see, jay.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Dana at least has a brand. Unlike M-1, it’s not based on one fighter. I know your too stupid to comprehend the obvious intro.

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by _Felix_ on Nov 29, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

F$ck off kid

You want to debate….let’s debate.

Keep your “stupid” comments for your little brother, mex.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop stalking me loser

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

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by _Felix_ on Nov 29, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

well..

felix does hav a point, m-1 is all about fedor, once he loses will we see ELITE XC all over again??

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Abso-fuckin-lutely

Nobody knows any of there other stars, and the ones people know, they don’t like. Mousasi is there next best fighter and he plans to go to the UFC A.S.A.P. That is why I keep telling people that Strikeforce has two years then they are gone.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry about the spelling

Can’t think straight right now

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No

If he loses Strikeforce won’t be stupid enough to let him lose to a last-minute fill-in.

If Kimbo lost to Ken Shamrock….EXC would have survived to live another day.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

im talking about m-1..

strikeforce might survive, but i don’t think m-1 wud’nt be very strong at least, because fedor is all they hav..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

M-1

They are pretty strong with their regional stuff from what I can gather.

If Fedor retired tomorrow…..M-1 would still have their other stuff.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That other stuff is garbage

Except Mousasi. Those side show they put on can’t be making them money.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

How you know?

What doesn’t sell in America doesn’t necessarily take a crap in Europe.

Look at Soccer lol.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

True I don't know the numbers they are doing

But I saw some of one of their events. No names fighting No names.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

M-1 isn't even 1% as popular as football

It’s a nothing promotion even in Europe, it’s more of a developmental territory for fighters before they move onto bigger and better things, yet the promotion deludes itself into thinking that they’re the world cup of MMA. Mind boggling to be honest, other than Fedor and Gegard they have no real assets in the sport.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I thought

I haven’t bothered to look up what sort of numbers they are pulling in for these events, but I would guess they are horrible. The event I saw the crowd looked pretty thin. It didn’t look like they had spent a ton of money on fighters or production though, so maybe they aren’t losing too much on that garbage.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

M-1 isn't even televised in the UK

The closest thing that they have to European success is through their co-promotion with bigger companies like Affliction and Strikeforce. They’ve done a good job at building up lesser names and having them fight each other but they are a small little known but notorious MMA promotion based in an area where other sports are much more popular.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

True

UFC is the only known MMA brand in the UK, I’ve worked in Russia a few times and the people I worked with did not know who Fedor was, they were not fans of MMA but I bet they knew who Mike Tyson was, and probably Valuev too, so as much as Fedor’s hyped up he’s probably not any better known there than someone like Randy is in the US. I don’t know how well that is but I bet there’s still some way to go until MMA stars are as big as the other top atheletes – hopefully we’ll get the judging/reffing fully sorted by then as there have been some dodgy decisions of late ;)

by Jimrod on Nov 30, 2009 4:04 AM EST up reply actions  

16 million viewers for Fedor/Rogers

16 million viewers for Fedor/Rogers in Russia.

Kind of sums it up, no?

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 30, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

That's pretty impressive!

About 11% of the population, same as a popular prime time TV show… Maybe it’s just the guys I know in Moscow who don’t know him… :)

by Jimrod on Nov 30, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

mousasi rules..

but hes very beatable, he wud lose to anderson silva and machida most likely, hes not considered the best in his division so hes not enuff to carry them imo..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a young talent

And as long as he is on the card I will pay for it. I think a few others would feel the same way. Enough people to keep them afloat, I would think.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

yea..

yea i agree, but its still kinda pathetic wen u depend 1 or maybe 2 fighters to keep u going..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

M1 isn’t going to be in business long. Or at least the management business. Fedor doesn’t have much left in him and Mousasi will have to leave them before going to the UFC.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about that

If Fedor is booked to fight Werdum and Werdum goes down 5 days before the fight, and the fights are PPV, you better believe they will take the risk of Fedor losing. Because either way they are screwed. If they go on without Fedor, the numbers will be so low they would go out of business paying for the show out of pocket. Either way, SF is counting on Fedor and his opponent to fight every time he is scheduled, the first misfire on this plan is immediate shut down for SF.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

PPV?

That’s a whole dfferent animal.

I’d agree with you if that’s what we were talking about, but we aren’t.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well we should

Because remember as Canadians without Showtime, we have to pay for most of SF’s events.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

“They’ll do the fight for free?” White asked. "That’s [expletive] weird because I offered them millions of dollars to take the fight and he didn’t take it. Now [Emelianenko] wants to fight for free? When and where? I’d love him to fight for free.

“I’ll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let’s do it.” “[Millen] is a [expletive] clown that talks out of his ass and has no business (discussing the negotiations),” White said. "That guy is a nobody. When we did the big Fedor negotiations, you think he was in it? He wasn’t even in it. That guy’s full of [expletive]. Tell him to go frost his [expletive] hair again and beat it.

“You don’t think I want to make that fight? Of course I want to make that fight. But it takes two people to make a deal, not one guy.”

 “We offered [Emelianenko] lots of money – so much money that it caused lots of [expletive] with our other fighters,” White said. "That’s how much money we offered him. And guess what he said. ‘No, we want 50 percent of your business.’ That’s some Russian strong-arm [expletive]. They can get away with that [expletive] out in Russia to the baker that works down the street. They’re not coming to America and doing that.

“If Fedor wants to fight the best in the world, he can call right now. We can [expletive] cut a deal right this second, and we can do it.”

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

Nice cut and paste with no take on it

How original.

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by _Felix_ on Nov 29, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Since intro can't give a simple thought on this cut and paste job, I will

If true it wouldn’t surprise me. All M-1 wants to do is bring Fedor into a promotion, plaster logos over a bunch of stuff and collect a shit load for not doing shit. God forbid something happen to Fedor, because if something does Vadim, Millen, and all the other croanies will be standing in the borscht line. Dana doesn’t have all of his eggs in one basket. Thats how him and Millen are different. Any ration thinking person can see that.
Also, one thing I never got is the mindset Millen has to think that Jerry sounds cooler than Gary.

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by _Felix_ on Nov 29, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You said that already

If anyone thought it was educational, added anything to the topic, or even a little funny……they would have replied after your first attempt.

Weak sauce, dude…..weak sauce.

So, if you don’t mind, the adults are talking here…….and if you hate me so much……quit stalking me and f#ck off !!!!!!!

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

^^^ issues man

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by _Felix_ on Nov 29, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Mex

This isn’t like you.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Read that and tell me what you think

Those two guys are one in the same.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

I get it

Dana’s a dick and Millen’s a loser. But they aren’t the same, they don’t even have the same agendas. Millen is secured under the nut sac of one fighter. He doesn’t do anything for him and I doubt he collects a paycheck. All he does is get in the way and follow every word Fedor says. How is that comparative to Dana. Besides both of them being ass bags, I see no similarities.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Not being a douche

But isn’t the saying….One and the same? I just want to know.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

I just googled it…..it’s both!!!!!

Go figure.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

We learned something today.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Dana's comments

So, sounds like Dana’s willing to do a one fight deal with M-1 for no money, but he wouldn’t do a one fight deal with M-1 for 50% of the revenue.

Sounds a little like a lying promoter to me.

Nothing like Dana calling everyone else an idiot, but then agreeing to do the exact same thing that he’s labelling everyone else idiots for doing.

They are twins, jay……..twins.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

You don't believe Dana would let any of his fighters face Fedor for free do you?

You know he wouldn’t let that happen. There’s so many pros and cons of doing a one shot show with M1, I can’t figure out if it would be a good idea or not anymore. I am over seeing Fedor fight Brock, if it ever happens the excuses the losers fans are going to make just takes all the interest out of it. Just leave the Russian alone, he has earned the right to fight who he wants when he wants.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So you agree Dana's lying?

You must if you’ve stated this after reading his comments.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Gawd yes

Who wouldn’t think he is lying. Dana is a car salesman personified. He won’t let SF buy the rights to show Fedor clips, do you think he would do anything for free? It doesn’t make sense for anyone really. Dana might say they can fight for free, but guess who gets the tapes?

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Than M-1 wouldn’t do it.

That’s my point….Dana talks all this sh#t and every douchebag under the sun believes everything he says, even though guys like us know damn well if M-1 and Dana sat down to do a “no strings….free fight”….then first thing Dana would do is throw a contract on the table that says “we’ll do this one for free, but if Fedor wins….the UFC owns him for 6 fights”.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i think..

i think he wud do that, why wud he give fedor the free exposer, fedor fights in the UFC one fight and where ever he goes he has the attention from that one fight going with him where ever he goes, andthe UFC gains almost nuthing..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Even TUF castoffs are headlining cards all over the world

I think Fedor coming to the UFC and winning some fights then leaving, would be huge for his career. Dana would never allow that to happen.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

he shud'nt..

any smart person wud’nt help sumones career for free and let them go away, not a smart move..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Again spot on

Nobody is that stupid. And from what I’ve seen of Dana, he isn’t a stupid businessman to say the least. I doubt Fedor will ever go to the UFC, because he knows it is basically a life time contract. No one wants to sign their life away to a dick like Dana.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

awsome..

there was’nt much arguments today, i mean i was’nt involved in any, its really nice hav debates on this site instead of ppl name calling, just saying..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You can be a little over the top though bob

I have read lots of your posts where you are feeding trolls. You got to stay away from that. You’re not a bad guy when you are calm.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta go Maniacs.

Family Guy will be on soon. David, nice talking to you again, we will do it soon.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Family Guy is awesome

Shame that we have to wait a while for the new episodes, can’t wait for the next Star Wars special.

Bob, if someone bashes you for no reason then tell them to sod off, it’s just someone trying to be cool over the Internet who like to cause trouble for the sake of it, you always get people like that in life and they’re not worth getting annoyed about.

Cheers jay, I’m a nice guy unless someone pisses me off, I have the small guy complex so I end up going off on one like Manny on TUF 5 when I’m angry (well not that bad but I do have a bad temper at times), I don’t let debates on MMA get to me though because there’s no point getting angry over what someone said on a blog about you and at the end of the day we are all fans of a great sport.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

hah thnx..

what makes me get mad is wen i start the conversation say “we all hav our opinion and i respect urs if u respect mine”, and then out of no where sumone will start talking shit and acting like im wrong, i cud understand if i was in a bad mood and psted sumthing mean but sum of the times im trying to be as nice as i can and they jsut attack me..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That's because it is you

Intro has the exact same problem. It is your history. The best thing about arguing with MMA fans is they all seem to have very short memories. It is evidenced in the constant fighter flopping. People loved Tito last week, now he lost to Forrest so he was never any good. Look at guys like David, he is always nice and people are always nice back to him. You’ll be alright bob, I have noticed the change in you lately. You know your stuff, that’s all that matters.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

thnx..

srry for keeping u from family guy, wen i first started i wud just write out of anger at times cause i did’nt really care who knew the real me on here, but these days i kinda want ppl to know i know wat im talking about, but i can’t be nice all of the times..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No one can

One day at a time bob.. LOL.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

wat i don’t get is how we hav our own pages or accounts but we can’t add ppl as friends, i mean why not??

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

True mate

My page is pretty half arsed though and I never bother checking it.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

there goes my confidence..

haha i thought ur page was pretty well put together, then i guess mine is terrible..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Nov 29, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine was a rushed job

I just quickly answered a few questions then found a pic of Anderson Silva, I’ve not even bothered to make a proper sig or give any information about myself. I was more bothered about getting signed up quickly than making a fancy profile that I never acknowledge anyway.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

True

I should have said Fedor. I shouldn’t have generalized that statement. Thanks for keeping me honest.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't mean they don't regret it

Signing is one thing…..being happy 3,4,5 years later is another.

Ask Anderson silva.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 30, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

he pisses me off

I guess the only reason this pisses me off is because you have this shit-talking promoter who couldn’t punch his way out of a wet paper bag…..doing whatever he can to discredit arguably the best fighter to ever fight in MMA. And even though the self-serving, lying, bullsh!t, is so obvious.. there are actually people in his mass-audience that read his quotes like they are the bible. In the mean time, this mass-audience that worship this ass clown whose only win is probably fighting off a common cold…….all jump behind him and in essence discredit arguably the best fighter this sport has ever seen.

Never in my life have I witnessed fans of a sport support a promoter in lieu of the best athletes in the sport……never.

You kept making all the stops?

Well people kept ringing the bell !!!!!!

by introvert on Nov 29, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

The media is a dangerous thing

Fedor isn’t on American TV telling it like it is. No one can get a tape of any of his old fights because they are locked up. Casual fans are the money in this industry, and Dana White decides how they spend that money. If Fedor went to the UFC this would all end. I wouldn’t mind seeing Dana back pedaling if it were to happen.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 29, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst thing about it was his racist comment about Russia

No wonder Fedor won’t join the UFC when Dana says stupid shit like that, you don’t disrespect someone’s culture like that if you expect them to join your promotion. It’s ignorant comments like that drive me mad and that more than anything is why Fedor will never sign for the UFC, he’s too proud to work for someone who bashes his country and doesn’t need the money either as he’s a very wealthy man who lives a simple life. Respect is more important than money to Fedor and that’s something that Dana can’t understand.

Both Dana and Millen are as bad as each other at times, the $250,000 bet on Chuck winning the 2003 Pride MW GP sums them 2 up as people in a nutshell.

Dana is a master promoter but at times he lets his ignorance damage the validity of the sport and the UFC, you also have to take what he says with a pinch of salt, most of the talk by promoters is BS and is just done to hype up fights and fighters.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Best fighter the sport has ever seen

but yet has the crappiest management team on earth and doesn’t fight the best in his weight class as of late.

@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner

by _Felix_ on Nov 29, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Don King is the modern day Don King

That old murdering crook is still looking to sabotage careers to make himself money, I hope that David Haye is kept well away from him once he beats Ruiz and he doesn’t end up facing King’s awful fighters instead of the Klitschko Bros.

Finkelstein is terrible as well as a manager and he seems like a crook to me but nobody is as bad as King, that guy is a leach.

by David W-S on Nov 29, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Woooo oooo TD baby 10-17

by Alpha Male on Nov 29, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

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