Anthony Johnson: After I hurt Koscheck, he needed some kind of excuse to recover
"I didn't hit him in the head, I hit him in the arm. I don't know why he would act like [that], I guess he was gassing. That's the only thing I can think of, [him] trying to find some kind of excuse to complain. I know I didn't hit him in the head. I thought I timed it perfect but I didn't and that's my fault. After him poking me in the eye it made a big difference. Then he did it twice and got both eyes the second time because when he swings, he jabs with his open hand and the right didn't even hit me, it was just the open palm strike and my eyes, my eyes are burning like hell right now. After I hurt him, he needed that, he needed some kind of excuse to recover, but it's all good."
A dejected Anthony Johnson talks to reporters after his Nov. 21 submission loss to Josh Kosckeck at UFC 106: "Ortiz vs. Griffin 2" from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. The contest was full of bizarre stoppages and mishaps between eye pokes from both sides and a controversial knee while "Kos" was grounded. "Rumble" contends the knee never made head contact and that his loss can be attributed to the aforementioned eye mashing. Anyone think the fight was affected by anything other than the difference in ground fighting capabilities? Opinions please.
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HAHA
Way to make yourself look like an idiot. You say that Kos is making excuses, than you make 3 or 4 of your own in one paragraph. Face it AJ, you were exposed last night. Everyone knows AJ is a can crusher. How he was the favorite going into this fight I will never understand. AJ threw that knee to a downed opponent, Kos was lucky to block it. Where does AJ go from here? Does he continue to crush cans or does he get fed to the lions again? Maybe AJ against Killa B?
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by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 11:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i would say he fights either killa b,mike swick,or paulo thiago
by randy murders on Nov 22, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont even need to say anything anymore. You said it all. An eye poke wont diminish your ground game that bad haha. He got rear naked Koschoked. And regardless of if kos was faking the pain in his eye or not he was giving all the time he needed after he was illegally hit haha Good job Johnson on looking like a one sided bitchy fighter…
by Chanceit on Nov 22, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
here here
agreed all aj has is size and athleticism.he got outstruck for the best part by someone with a leg kick and an overhand right!ok kos won it with his wrestling but i still think he wouldve won if it stayed standing.uve got to blame his fans though bigging him up as a future opponent for gsp,even anderson silva in some quarters after hes beaten the world beaters zenko,burns and fiarovantini!!
by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AJ-Saunders
was supposed to happen a LOOOOOOOOONG time ago, but AJ refused to to fight him for some reason or another.
I’ve always hated AJ for the ridiculous hype he gets on sites, and I’m glad Kos was able to hit him a bit, and get hit to prove hes not this insane wrecking machine future title holder. A LW name Rich Clementi fought AJ at 175lbs and was able to take him down and RNC.
Its all because AJ refuses to learn BJJ. He’s an idiot.
by Synyster_08 on Nov 22, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree Syn
They protected this guy and hid all his weaknesses for a long time. He is the WW Kimbo Slice. They probably almost walk around at the same size, just Kimbo likes to eat. AJ drops 40 pounds to fight in a division he has no business being in. His best move from here is MW. It wasn’t hard to tell in this fight who had the Juco wrestling pedigree and who was the Division 1 champion.
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by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A Bit Harsh
AJ has definetly got more in his aresenal than kimbo will ever have, in fact he’d probably light kimbo up if they ever fought. i do agree he should move up to mw, maybe against bisbing, one bigmouth crybaby vs another?
by panthro on Nov 22, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a little harsh comparing the two
But I give them about the same chance of winning a UFC title. At least Kimbo can sell PPV’s.
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by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rumble should move up to MW
He’s too big for WW and the cut is just going to hamper his chances at success. Either way he won’t win any titles until he develops some BJJ, being big, quick and athletic is all well and good but if you’re hopeless off your back then you aren’t going to trouble the elite. Rumble-Bisping would be an entertaining fighter, I’m not a fan of either (used to be but they have both said and done such stupid things that it’s hard to support them) but it is guaranteed to end in a stoppage.
As for the fight itself it was great to see Kos mixing his strikes with his wrestling and he used some nice BJJ to submit Rumble. However the play acting by both men was pathetic and made the fight resemble a football match rather than a fight and it ruined it for me.
Also, open palm strikes should be banned, I’m sick of seeing fights ruined by eye pokes. There has to be a rule change in the gloves or the punching technique because the number of eye pokes in fight is getting ridiculous, it’s dangerous and horrible to watch.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IM surprised
Im surprised that every one is on koschecks side…..I remember when jamie varner got illegal knee’d in the face way WAY worse then koscheck did and everyone was calling varner a pussy….Im not talking bad about kos gettin knee’d because it was definetly illegal , im just woundering why people side with kos but think varner is a pussy?
by GOLDIGGAH on Nov 22, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see why everyone is suddenly hating on Anthony Johnson so much. He can make the cut so why shouldn’t he fight at welterweight? He has always said that he doesn’t have a great ground game. It’s not like he was hyping it to be anything incredible. He stated the facts. But he has also said that he is working on it. His wrestling has given him the takedown defense needed to stay on the feet and light his opponents up with his powerful striking. Koscheck is just a great wrestler and was able to use that to bring Johnson to the ground. I can’t wait to see Johnson fight again. He is only 25 years old and that is very young in MMA. He has a bright future ahead of him if he stays dedicated.
by RyanHobbs on Nov 22, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too many wrestlers better than him
in the WW division. If he wants to get to the top 5 of a division, he better leave the UFC WW division.
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by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He hit Kos with some solid shots and Kos looked rock too. That fight could have gone either way. I am glad that Kos won because I didn’t think he was ready for that kind of fight. But like I said, he is only 25 and he has a lot of promise. Can’t wait for his next fight. I am thinking someone with a good ground game like Dustin Heazlett. I also wouldn’t mind a deadly stand up fighter like Thiago Alves. That might make Anthony want to utilize his wrestling and work at that part of his game a little more.
by RyanHobbs on Nov 22, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thiago Alves
Needs to fight Kos again. I don’t see the same upside to AJ as you do. He is a wrestler, but he is a Juco wrestler. Not near the same level as the GOOD wrestlers in the WW division. Plus I think the weight cut will kill him against most of the division.
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by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Rumble
The guy is a wifebeater, has failed to make weight two times including a time where he made a vlog showing him strolling on a treadmill and getting a haircut when he was supposed to be working hard to cut the weight, that’s Gabe Reudiger levels of laziness. He’s an exciting fighter to watch but he’s too big for WW, you should always be able to make the cut and it’s ridiculous that he got to fight Yoshida at 176. I’d like to see him at MW and work on his BJJ, decent wrestling and good striking will only get you so far in the UFC.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree David
Maybe this loss will finally make him work harder, I doubt it.
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by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan ur correct sir!
Johnson can make the cut so everyone needs to shut the f*ck up. Johnson is 25yrs old compared to Kos 31 yrs… soo’’ Johnson has about 5 yrs to get his ground game up before he hits his prime. Johnson can continue to work on his wrestling and BJ if he gets to the right camp with the right training partners, in his interview it didn’t sound like his camp could support his needed BJ developement. So a lot depends on Johnson’s willingness to move on and get properly trained.
by THORAZINE on Nov 23, 2009 2:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He has been well over 170 for 2 of his fights and looked drained on Saturday, he clearly can’t make the weight comfortably, same as Alves. Both should move up in my opinion as neither will ever beat GSP but at MW they have a shot at winning the belt once Andy and Hendo retire because there are less dominant grapplers at that weight and both men can bulk up instead of having to dehydrate themselves to compete.
by David W-S on Nov 23, 2009 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually in his camp he has a BJJ instructor, and it has been reported, that rumble has never taken a class, talk about laziness
by dat on Nov 23, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not on his side
I said that him and Rumble were both rolling around the floor like babies, the Kos one in particular was appalling because he was never actually hit in the eye. That was reminiscent of a footballer diving, it sucks in football and it sucks in fighting.
Varner is just as bad because he used an injury to wuss out of a fight. I hate to see that sort of behaviour in MMA, part of the appeal of the sport is that that sort of thing doesn’t happen, same as in rugby league. It’s supposed to be about 2 tough men giving it their all in a fight, not losers faking injuries.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
kos got poked
Koscheck was Poked in the eye…..he wasnt holding his eye because he got hit in the face with the knee..he was holding it because he got poked during the illegal knee and he got the 5 minuets rest because of the illegal knee…..and varner got fukin crackd with that knee so damn bad and he was whooping cerrone’s ass the whole fight
by GOLDIGGAH on Nov 22, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Varner was easily winning the fight but looked for a way out, that showed cowardice in my opinion and it took away from his victory. The knee didn’t even look bad and he quit because of other injuries that had nothing to do with it.
I don’t care why either Kos or Varner rolled around the floor clutching their face, all I know is that it was play acting and going way OTT. Both men are talented and I’d have more respect for them if they had have manned up instead of looking for a cowardly way out of a fight.
by David W-S on Nov 23, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you watch it again the poke actually came about 5 seconds before the illegal knee, everyone seems to have missed it.
by ~Savage~ on Nov 23, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
varner is a pussy because
he refused to continue the fight. koshcheck took his 5 minutes and then continued.
by wandwagon on Nov 22, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AJ quit and gave Kos that choke!
His ground game is bad, bubt he didnt even attempt to defend it. He gave up!
by John G. on Nov 22, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed John. Who taps to the ‘Severn’ choke. AJ wanted out of that fight when he felt the first elbow.
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by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KOS cry baby!
he is right Koscheck made a complete meal out of nothing although Kos was the better fighter – not by much tho! AJ just needs to work his BJJ and heel be back near the top again!
by Randy for Couture on Nov 22, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kos is a cry baby?
He took an illegal knee to the head, while he was down on his knees. Yeah his arm partially blocked it, but I am sure he still felt it. All and all AJ was in the wrong. Momentum or not., koscheck was clearly working from his knees when he kneed him in the face. I think Kos outworked him all together. His wrestling was the difference, his stand up looked better, and his jis was on point. AJ has alot more to work to be at the top. The top guys in Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, will all do him the same way.
by Da Monkey on Nov 22, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His arm didnt partially block it
It completely blocked it. I guess you missed the slow motion replay
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by _Felix_ on Nov 22, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kos was crying about an eye injury, when Rumble wasn’t even close to touching the eye he was crying about. Even Rogan couldn’t figure it out.
I'm kind of a big deal.
by P-Dub on Nov 22, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The eye poke was before the knee.
Look at the link 5 posts below. No faking with the eye.
by Da Monkey on Nov 22, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you watch it, Rumble rubs the tape of his glove across KOS’s eye before he throws the knee. I’m pretty sure that’s what caused the eye pain for Kos.
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by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it came so far ahead of the knee everyone seems to have missed it
by ~Savage~ on Nov 23, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I say rematch with Paulo to decide winner of gsp and Hardy…..basically who fights gsp
by Chanceit on Nov 22, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want to see him rematch Paulo as well as a rematch with Alves because until he beats the 2 Thiagos he isn’t the top contender.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Koscheck was, without a doubt, faking!
That much should be glaringly obvious. Seriously, he was whining and rolling around about his eye when there a) was no contact and b) was no visible or lasting damage. Rumble had him rocked right before that and stuffed his takedown so Koscheck looked for a way out.
That said, Rumble’s ground game is pitiful.
by zeke21 on Nov 22, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Watch the Replay
Right BEFORE the illegal knee, AJ caught Koscheck in the left eye…Rogan and Goldberg didn’t pick up on it.
by A.T. on Nov 22, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Comedy of Errors
After the replays you can see the knee misses but that AJ’s finger goes in Kos’ eye. Either way both of these guys took plenty of time to recover from all the eye poking, it was like a bad Three Stooges movie.
I say a rematch with both of these guys fighting with one hand on on their nose to block the eye poking!
by Sofa-King-Toasty on Nov 22, 2009 11:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't faking btw
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by Chanceit on Nov 22, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well that solves that. I was a little weary at what had happened there but I didn’t think that Kos was that kind of guy. Glad we got that figured out.
by RyanHobbs on Nov 22, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is ...
no doubt that Johnson poked Kos in the eye. I’m not sure where Johnson is coming from with his statement about Kos gassing. Johnson should stop being a poor loser. I agree with Kos that he should fight Hardy and the winner fights GSP (who apparently is injured and could probably use the extra time off).
by Muscle-Dolphin on Nov 22, 2009 11:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
NO! hardy needs to fight gsp, i want to see hardy crumble, and get pounded on for 5 rounds like alves,and fitch.. koscheck wont put that kind of beating on him he’ll just dry hump him
by randy murders on Nov 22, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hes had his chance
why should hardy face kos.kos had his chance and put up a lame showing.im not saying hardy is the best the ww division has to offer but no one wants to see rematches so he is top of the queue.and if daley does a number on condit its his turn after that imo.
by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kos had his chance?
Kos fought GSP in a non title 3 round match. That is not exactly the match that everyone else got. If I recall, Koscheck (who had no stand up at the time) actually took less damage in his 3 rounds against GSP then Fitch and Alves took. He should get a fair chance at the title.
by Da Monkey on Nov 22, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
5 rounds instead of 3
hed just lose all 5 rounds instead of 3.kos was the decorated wrestler going into that fight but gsp took him down and controlled him easily.it would be the same again imo.screw rematches let the fresh blood have there chance(which gsp agrees with anyway)
by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rematch or not Koscheck never got a title shot and has been a top 5 for a long time, that is all I am saying. What do you think is going to happen to anyone that fights GSP? He is going to take them down and controll them. At least Kos has the ground game to make it a bit more exciting. Hardy will get schooled. So is Kos who is ranked #5 and actually #4 in the UFC, not deservant of a title shot because there is new fighter who is a top 8 or 9 in Hardy. I cold care less one way or another the fights are almost pointless. I don’t get excited watching GSP fight anymore because you know exactly what is going to happen. IMO he needs to move up in weight but anytime that comes up it is a touchy subject.
by Da Monkey on Nov 22, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ground game?what to hold on for dear life on the bottom hoping the ref stands them up.hes a wrestler hes pants off his back!! i didnt say hardy deserved the title shot but us fans deserve to see gsp fight someone new and that guy at the moment is hardy and after daley kos condit it will be his shot.
by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying Kos doesnt have a ground game? I believe he completly worked a AJ and subbed him last night, who was supposed to be a great wrestler. As far as HArdy and Daley go against GSP, it is almost pointless. GSP will walk through there attempts to connect on his take down, he will pass guard and pound them into submission. I would be suprised if Daley get by Condit. Shields exposed Daley easily, could you imagine the mauling that GSP would give him (or Fitch or Paulo). Daley is just like Kongo, Kimbo, and Sokoju(sp?) they are all turtles on their back. I would be suprised if Daley even gets passed Condit.
by Da Monkey on Nov 22, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good top game yes
he would be underneath gsp for 5 rounds so that point is moot.why is it pointless for gsp to fight the above mentioned,the fight starts on the feet so they both have a chance.i will also point to matt serra anything can happen in mma.and daley could ko any ww in the world if he connects.do u have a problem with british fighters?
by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
British Fighters...
Scott…Absolutely not…I am not a fan of one dimensional fighters. I actualy like Hardy outside of his attitude(sometimes but that is part of the game). I do hate Bisping, but will give him his props for overcoming and beating a quality fighter in KAng. HArdy is and should be at the moment the UK Posterboy for MMA, He has a puple Belt under Eddie Bravo, a great chin(judging how Swick unloaded a few on him and he never even blinked), and has outstanding standup. I am also a big fan of Ross Pearson and believe and hope that Andre Winner is the next big thing!
Daley is a 1 dimensional fighter. Yeah he can knock out anyone in WW(so can Phil Baroni, Chris Lytle, and Thiago Alves), but with GSP’s 85%(if not higher now) success rate at taking opponent down and the fact that Daley has the ground game of an overturned turtle, I don’t think he stands much of a chance. MMA=Mixed Martial Arts, not boxing. It kills me to see guys that have 32 fights, been fighting since 2003, and refuse to add any dimensions to their game. That is what I hate. One punch power doesn’t make you a mixed martial artists, ask Tank Abbot. I realize Condit doesn’t have the best stand up in the WW division but he has really good bjj and can take a hell of a beating. With Daley all you need is one takedown for a guy with a ground game Condit. MMA math rarely works- when fighter a, beats fighter b, he should beat fighter c. I agree Daley only needs one clean shot to crush Carlos, but Carlos needs just one takedown to beat Daley, so it comes down to who gets theirs in first. BRock Larson punished Carlos for a good part of their meeting and he was able to cinch the armbar(Brock has a ground game and bjj defense.
by Da Monkey on Nov 23, 2009 8:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Daley is far superior to Baroni and Lytle, when has Lytle ever KO’d anyone and Baroni has horrific cardio. Semtex is a quality striker, not just a slugger, he has great technique as well as power, something which you can’t say about Lytle or Baroni.
Condit has horrible striking and he was very lucky to not get the fight stopped against Ellenberger and even luckier to get a win instead of a draw (that 1st round was a definite 10-8). He is very good on the ground but after that fight I don’t like his chances on the feet, this time if he gets hurt against a proven puncher like Daley the ref will stop the fight.
Semtex does need to work on his grappling and that is holding him back but at least he is a talented striker, not some lazy slugger like Baroni and Tank. He’s got the striking to beat a lot of good WWs, though only a puncher’s chance against the likes of GSP, Fitch and Kos because of his inferior grappling, however that puts him at a much higher level than Baroni, Larson and Lytle.
Alves-Semtex would be a sick fight (and John G’s dream WW fight), though I’d give Thiago the advantage based on size and superior BJJ, I’m a fan of both though.
by David W-S on Nov 23, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First off Dave, thanks for all the great responses, I actually enjoy talking to you on mania…=)
When using Baroni and Abbot I just meant they have the power to KO anyone. I may have gone a little far with Lytle in the power aspect (I was kinda thinking Leben at MW for some reason but went with Lytle. I am writing on 2 or 3 different sites getting confused =P) but he is a good boxer(he was pro before he went mma) and has always been known for good hands. I realize Daley has good cardio and is a quality striker, I just truly think Carlos just needs a take down to solidfy the win. Do you really think he is far superior to Brock LArson? I mean outside of the Kampman win he really has not beat anyone all that impressive. The common opponent is John Allesio who Daley ko ‘d in the 2nd but DQ’d to Larson for an illegal knee(but I do not recall the fight to that point). LArson has impressive wins over Prater and Pyle(b level to b+ fighters) while he has the loss to Pierce and most recently mauling at the hands of Foster. Daley has some losses as well to some b level fighters. I don’t know I think I am trying to analyze this way to hard, lol…What it boils down to really is I am not sold on Daley. He has never really impressed me that much.
I think like you said Alves would have the upper hand against Daley for the same reason, but in my mind it wouldn’t be that big of a fight, I think Alves would win easily, but that is my bias. Kos, Gsp, and Fith would be way to much for him with their ground game. Anyway thanks for the great posts….
by Da Monkey on Nov 23, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Condit’s awful on the feet, Ellenberger was very close to KO’g him and Daley crushed Kampmann, the guy who beat Condit in a close fight. Semtex is far too good a striker for Carlos to deal with and if he avoids grappling with Condit he’ll get another dominant KO win. I say put on Kos-Semtex once Daley beats Condit, as AKA-Rough House are developing a rivalry and it will allow a deserving contender to be made without cheating Hardy out of a title fight, as there would be no complaints from Kos if his teammate Swick won in Manchester and got the title fight.
The only fighters with a chance at beating GSP at WW are Nick Diaz and Jake Shields as they are both quality grapplers and Nick’s also a very good boxer, Hardy and Daley will probabaly get smashed just like all of the other UFC WWs but both have a punchers chance and if they can work on their grappling, which Dan in particular seems to be doing, then they could give GSP some trouble. It’s doubtful but until GSP moves up to MW he’s going to continue dominating the WW division.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The same Nick Diaz who was bounced from the UFC and lost multiple times to questionable tallent. Yeah, he’s a real threat.
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by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Loses to Riggs, Sanchez, and Sherk. All guys who he would graciously put a beating on in this day and age.
by buttters on Nov 22, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think he would have problems with Sanchez and Sherk. The Diaz bros. have problems with agressive wrestlers, which GSP is the King of.
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by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was referring to more KJ and Riggs…but either way, I don’t think he would be the top 4 guys to get to GSP.
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by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
be=beat
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by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Diaz is the man
When he was in the UFC he was too young and skinny for 170 but now he’s bulked up and has looked superb outside of the UFC. He has excellent boxing and BJJ, he’s a much smarter guy than he was in his UFC days. Training with Shields will help his wrestling to continue to improve as well.
He’d smash most of the guys he got beat by in the past, Riggs, KJ and Sherk are nowhere near his level right now and he’d also smash Karo and give Diego a very competetive fight. When Nick is motivated he’s a worldbeater and anyone would be motivated against GSP.
He’s certainly got a better chance than anyone else in the UFC, Fitch, Kos and Alves have already been beaten soundly and Hardy and Semtex only have a puncher’s chance whilst nobody else is even worth mentioning in the same breath.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh-huh.
Diaz today is not Diaz that fought in the UFC. He filled out nicely. Riggs and Sherk would be smashed by Nick. I give KJ a tiny bit more credit than most, KJ/Diaz 2 would be very fun to watch. I think the UFC has nothing to lose in bringing KJ on board. Nick needs to come to the UFC now!
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by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He still looks like a bag of coat hangers, and any of the good wrestlers (Kos, Fitch) and Alves would roll Diaz like he owed them money. If sherk didn’t try to stand with him and just used his wrestling, I’m pretty confident he could pull off a lay n’ pray victory as well.
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by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
He looks skinny, but is strong. Don’t judge a fighter by his body. Or Kimbo would have laid a beating on Roy Nelson.
Get that Sherk comment out of their, it was total nonsense.
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by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe anyone with good wrestling will beat Diaz most times. If he does come to the UFC (which honestly he probably should) and fights Kos, Fitch or Alves, I will lay a pic bet with you jay.
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by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.....
I like the sounds of that. Maybe not Fitch but the other two. Fitch is a grinder and the Diaz brothers are notorious for whining during boring fights. But Kos and Alves would both be stupid enough to screw that fight up. We’ll discuss it if he ever comes back.
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.
by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good to me buddy.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nick isnt Nate
Nick can handle wreslters way better then nate can….and I think most of these people are judging nicks ability with defending the lay and pray to nates and thats just wrong
by GOLDIGGAH on Nov 22, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What makes you think that GOLDIGGAH?
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on Nov 22, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL fitch took apart diego, forced him to move down in class, and even diego was able to manhandle diaz. what do you think the top 5 wws like fitch, kos, alves, not to mention GSP who is on another universe compared to the top 5 WWs would do to diaz? gina carrano could problably wrestle diaz to the ground
by dat on Nov 23, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is the stupidest fuking thing ive ever herd
by GOLDIGGAH on Nov 23, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
herd or heard?
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.
by jay. on Nov 23, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your just so cool with your grammar and spelling corrections
by GOLDIGGAH on Nov 23, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your or You're?
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.
by jay. on Nov 24, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Diaz
I love the call of Nick Diaz having a good chance against GSP. Nick Diaz is far from the same fighter he was when he was in the UFC. He has evolved and become a much better fighter, with great cardio, a great pace, annoying in your face boxing that doesn’t hurt you immediatly but takes its toll after a 2 or 3 rounds(the eyes start shutting shut, the nose starts bleeding). He is one of my fav. fighters even though his mouth ruins it alot of times.
Who is the ?able talent that he lost to Sanchez(a top 10 fighter in ww and a #1 contender @ lw-that fight was also super close as well. he spent a lot of time on his back but did not take a lot of damage and attempted sub after sub), Sean Sherk (a lw champ and top contender @ ww at one point), KAro (a top 10 contender during his Nick Diaz’s time in the UFC)? His one loss against ?able talent is Riggs. He beat Gomi! What is questionable about that? He lost to KJ on dr. stoppage (which wouldn’t happen again since he had the surgery) and KJ was scared to fight him again cuz he knew he was going to loose his belt!
by Da Monkey on Nov 23, 2009 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually their is no one with a realistic chance of beating GSP, sure diaz has good boxing and ground game, but the overwhelming strenght, wrestling, quickness, and athleticism of GSP makes it a moot point.
by dat on Nov 23, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wtf ever gsp isnt invincible, Ive seen him get KTFO before and im sure it will happen again
by GOLDIGGAH on Nov 23, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone loses
He lost a fluke fight, what is your point?
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.
by jay. on Nov 23, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets see Kos get more than 2 W's in a row
Which he has not done for a very long time. He’s 2 fights away from the title.
by JRE on Nov 22, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can't fake sh*t with all those camera's
all i saw was johnson getting poked in the eye decisively.. yeah he did an illegal move and lost a point..but then kos out right eye poked a few times..
the difference between a brown noser and a sh*t head..is depth perception!
by sarah- on Nov 22, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Look
at the Franklin/Hendo fight, Rich was poked in the eye brutally two or three times on top of being brutally head bitted twice and what I thought was still came back and won that fight. So AJ has no excuses, people get poked all the time its just part of the game. Getting poked in the eye is an accident its not illegal, being kneed while you are down is illegal. Big differance there!!!!!!!!
by HEELHOOK on Nov 22, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rich lost that fight
But I still agree with you.
A knee to the head is much worse. and has more lasting damage than an eye poke (generally).
He blocked part of it, but what was AJ doing? It was clearly an illegal blow, rookie move.
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
by ShaiZ on Nov 22, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
was not defending
he lost and it was not the eye pokes..but kos acted pretty dramatic to the illegal move..on the over the top end..and basically AJ was waiting for him to get up so that the move was not illegal but jumped the gun..either way..i was just saying that it’s hard to get away with anything with all those camera’s…look at the eye poke that cro cop gave buddy and the ref never saw that and did not come to the aid of the fighter..accidents happen all the time..but some times i wonder if eye pokes are as oops as they seem..
the difference between a brown noser and a sh*t head..is depth perception!
by sarah- on Nov 22, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
scott
It’s not that people don’t want to see rematches. People just want to see exciting close rematches. Kos hasn’t gone out and earned his rematch yet. He is well on his way, but not quite there yet. If he wins 2 more fights against top 8 competition, I would be interested in a rematch with GSP. Even one more win against a top 3 competitor would raise a few eyebrows. He needs to call out Fitch or Alves. Before he can worry about revenging his loss to GSP he needs to revenge the loss to the number 2 WW. If Kos could beat Alves I would demand a GSP/Kos fight.
Randy
Agree that GSP/Hardy fight has to go on as planned. I think GSP deserves one warm up fight before he makes a decision on what weight class he is going to fight in. I wouldn’t mind seeing him move up for a fight. Not against a top 4 guy, but a top 10 guy would be cool to watch. GSP vs. Hardy is going to be a fun fight. GSP will stand with Hardy. He isn’t going to do what people do to Kimbo when they are worried about losing. GSP likes to beat people at their game, he will want to beat Hardy in a way that leaves no doubt in peoples minds who is the better fighter.
Muscle Dolphin
GSP is ready to fight. His injuries are fine. He has been training full speed since the beginning of the month. They will fight soon.
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -Introvert
by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that except the Kimbo comment, it’s his own fault for having terrible TDD, cardio and BJJ that he loses to superior grapplers like Nelson, I’d rather see a guy win by fighting to his strengths than lose by fighting to his opponents. If GSP tries to kickbox with Hardy then I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets KO’d, GSP’s strength is that he’s great at everything so if he ignores his wrestling and BJJ then the same thing will happen to him against Dan as it did against Serra. That sort of attitude cost Kos and Kampmann against Thiago and Semtex and is a horrible way to fight.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I thought Kos faked that whole thing to, they showed the replay 50 times, he clearly did not even get touched by anything but a finger in the right eye, funny enough he grabbed his left eye and acted like he got shot in it. That said, this incident did not affect the outcome of the fight. Kos just went on a rampage after that, AJ clearly has to brush up on his ground skills even though Kos is a beast on the ground.
by HEELHOOK on Nov 22, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why do i have to keep posting this....
Just because Joe Rogan didn’t see this doesn’t mean it didn’t happen
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt220/justChanceIt/image-1.jpg
by Chanceit on Nov 22, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent. Thanks for posting.
The one and only Smitty...
by D_Smith on Nov 22, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How tons of people including Joe Rogan did not see that himself after the multiple slow motion replay is beyond me. I caught it right when it happened I was in utter shock Joe did not catch that on the replay I was literally shocked. How could any body miss that is completely ridiculous.
by buttters on Nov 22, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
unless koscheck has eyes on his chin that picture doesnt show anything.
let’s get something that isn’t so blurry
by nastyem on Nov 22, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Blurry proof?
that is a joke. Maybe the national enquirer or weekly world news will post this crap!
by JRE on Nov 22, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no way will he stand
gsp will stand for a while get clipped and revert to type.he wont stand with hardy.ok i know your gonna say he stood with alves but alves was tentative about being taken down.hardy sets everything up with his hands and to him being taken down is an occupational hazard.he wont hold back i guarantee it.gsp will win but it will be gnp stoppage/sub or decision.i will change my name to anything u want if gsp stops hardy with strikes
by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"but alves was tentative about being taken down"-scott1
And Hardy won’t be worried about it? Alves has a legit ground game and has excellent TDD. Hardy isn’t going to be able to get the Take Downs off his mind. That is why GSP is dangerous on the feet to guys who only have stand up. Think about it. Great wrestlers don’t have to worry about the take downs as much. Hardy is going to be gun shy every time GSP gets near him or moves his feet.
Marcus Davis was able to get Hardy down, and Hardy couldn’t get Mike Swick down. Hardy has terrible wrestling and will try to compensate by over training wrestling leading up to this fight.
Hardy couldn’t knock Swick out, and he had plenty of chances. Hardy is my second favorite WW has been for a while. But he isn’t fast enough or lucky enough to catch GSP. Just because Georges got knocked out once, doesn’t mean he is afraid to strike with anyone.
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -Introvert
by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree his wrestling is shite!!
i wouldnt even bother training tdd if i was hardy.the only way to win this fight is to come out banging.i know that,u know that and most of all dan hardy and team roughhouse know that.there is no ww in the world who can stop gsp taking them down so unless your an excellent bjj guy off his back the only way to beat gsp is get him into a brawl which hardy will do and gsp will take him down straight away.
by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy did takedown Swick
He also kept the fight on his feet, his wrestling looked a lot better compared to 99 when Davis took him down at will. GSP will win this fight because of his better wrestling but if he tries to kickbox like you implied he would before then Hardy won’t have to worry about the shot, Alves was gun shy because GSP fought smart and took him down at will. If he doesn’t go for any takedowns then Hardy will become more confident at throwing strikes and that is where GSP is at risk because Hardy has proven power, he knocked down Swick and Davis and KO’d Markham. Look at Kos-Thiago and Semtex-Kampmann to see what happens when a superior grappler tries to kickbox.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
I didn’t mean make it a muay thai battle David. He would have to throw a couple take downs in to the mix. I think he’ll fight Hardy the same way he fought Alves or Fitch. Lots of stand up with a little wrestling thrown in to keep him guessing. I just meant to say that he isn’t going to take him down and keep it there. He isn’t afraid of Hardy’s stand up the way these guys are saying.
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.
by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he did that then I agree that he’d win, but it’ll be through being the better all round fighter not just being a better striker. I think he’ll go for a takedown early and batter Hardy on the ground, then if he survives that GSP will pick apart Dan on the feet, however if he takes a while to go for the takedown then Dan will loosen up and be confident with his hands, in which case GSP could be in some trouble. He’s certainly not afraid of Hardy’s striking but personally I think it’s stupid to try to fight to your opponent’s strength, it unnecessarily puts you at risk.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
But what does GSP gain from taking everyone down and grinding them to a pulp? He can take down and control almost every human under 185 pounds. He isn’t that boring and knows that he still needs to sell tickets and please the fans. He’ll make sure to keep this fight exciting.
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.
by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hardy would be destroyed by alves in the standup, or on the ground. its pointless to match GSP up against so called WW challengers. GSP needs to challenge himself, and move up to WW. I think dana should just force him to move up in weight, and challenge anderson.
by dat on Nov 23, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GSP
will destroy Hardy wherever the fight ends up, on the feet on the ground it doesnt matter. I like Hardy, I think he is a good fighter but he has clearly bitten off more than he can chew with GSP. I think Kos has a better chance of making a fight with GSP. Hardy is out of his league and will be brought back to earth that night he will get beatdown like the other great fighters that GSP has left in a lumpy, bloody mess!!! Hardy is out of his league and does not deserve this shot.
by HEELHOOK on Nov 22, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i agree he will win but he will not beat hardy standing.i have no doubt gsp will win big but i think it will be gnp
by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WOW AJ HATERS.
Look at this, all the people saying AJ is hyped up are now writing him off completely. Regardless of what he said to the reporters, it’s not like he was dominated. He rung koscheck’s bell a couple of times and had those punches been a little more accurate he probably would’ve won. His ground game was exposed, but he’s athletic and talented so he’ll go back to the drawing board and fill out those holes, come back, and probably knock out koscheck. Did you idiots write off GSP after he lost to Matt Hughes too?
by BlaiseBlaise on Nov 22, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dont think AJ ground game is horrible. He was just fighting Kos who has a great ground game. I have to admit as a Kos fan i was extremely nervous about this fight. AJ will be back. Overall i thought he did good he just got caught by a by a better ground game opponent.
by Chanceit on Nov 22, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AJ isn’t a write off, but needs to quit pissing and moaning. Take your loss like a man. Both these guys took a couple eyepokes, was a pretty even fight til Kos took him down. Maybe AJ and Tito can get together and trade excuses.
by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Blaise Blaise
GSP was an obvious future champ. I didn’t write AJ off because he lost to Kos. I wrote him off a long time ago. He is basically a low rent wrestler with good stand up. Keep in mind he wasn’t an NCAA Division one wrestler. He was a junior college wrestler. He’s just a big guy who is able to knock out some of the guys who weigh 30 pounds less than him. He isn’t fast enough, smart enough or a good enough wrestler to hang with the current crop of guys at the top of the WW division. He could probably out-box almost all of them, but this isn’t boxing. He’ll be middle of the pack in the WW division because of all the GREAT wrestlers.
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.
by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jay
I respect your oppinion but disagree. I think saying he’s too stupid to be good is a bit presumptuous. I see potential and I’m assuming he will train intelligently enough to fulfill that potential.. He didn’t have a long time to prepare for this fight either so didn’t really get a chance to develop and work on a gameplan throughout training camp. We’ll see what the future holds, but overall this thread is a bit too overexcited about an AJ loss. And on a another note, comparing him to Kimbo seems a bit prejudice to me. I doubt anyone would say that if he were white, but it seems people are assuming that based on their skin color they must have the same background and the same mentality. Whoever said that in this thread needs to fall back.
by BlaiseBlaise on Nov 22, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BlaiseBlaise
When I said “too stupid” I meant that he isn’t bright enough to close his holes. After getting choked out to a LW he should have been training his ground game. He has shown no improvement in his wrestling or JJ since the first time I seen him. He isn’t stupid academically or anything like that, I don’t care about a fighters actual intelligence if you thought I was questioning him in that way.
AJ had plenty of time to prepare for this step up in competition. Fighting good fighters isn’t something that was sprung upon him. He didn’t even sweat in the Yoshida fight, so he was in fighting condition. Plus he hadn’t even had to do a full weight cut in the Yoshida fight so there isn’t anything he needed to recover from.
He asked for this fight knowing he screwed up big time last time out. Comparing his bottom game to Kimbo’s bottom game is fair and realistic. Neither of them have any technique and use strength to try to get up. It tires you out quickly and your punches will in turn slow down rapidly. They are both one-dimensional tough guys. I would never draw my conclusions on skin color. But who do you use as a comparison when talking about a weak ground game? If this article were about Dan Hardy, Cro Cop or Sokojou I would say their ground work was Kimboesque.
Kimbo is an easy example of brutal grappling.
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.
by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jay
Ya I understood what you said, I just personally think he has talent and therefore I would like to believe that he is going to get smarter with his training, it would be a waste not to. And about the Kimbo thing, I wasn’t refering to you, just to someone’s earlier comparison of AJ to Kimbo.. I find a pretty heavy dose of Racism on MMA sites for whatever reason so I just try to call people on it when they start taking that direction. It’s unfortunate but the Boxers do have a point when talking about MMA fans, a lot of them ARE just drunk idiots that want to see somebody’s head get stomped in.. That attitude becomes apparent on a lot of MMA forums. Anyway, look forward to debating with you in future threads.
by BlaiseBlaise on Nov 24, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Racist comments will not be tolerated
That includes innuendo. Grow up.
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Nov 22, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Eye pokes incidental?
I know Rogan goes on and on about how the gloves are at fault for the recent abundance of eyepokes, but I disagree. Why wouldn’t they eyepoke? Points are never deducted and it gives them a clear advantage for the rest of the fight. It’s always the same fighters, and the replays never look like accidents. Automatic point deductions will solve that problem real quick, not new gloves.
by Josh H. on Nov 22, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Are you suggesting
That fighters are purposely throwing eye gouges at moving objects. It wouldn’t be a good strategy. You are more likely to break all of your fingers than actually hitting what you aimed at.
Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.
by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Open palm strikes should be banned, that’s always the technique used by eye gougers. It’s a horrible example of striking and the only advantage is hurting your opponent’s eye, which is supposed to be illegal. That is what needs to be taken out of the sport.
by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not an open palm strike
it’s more of a pawing, feeling out motion, mainly used to get their range and keep their opponent at bay
by Shaun32887 on Nov 23, 2009 2:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can the poster put a link up to the source please?
by AfroSamurai on Nov 22, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
kos poked his eye twice on purpose
Kos was pissed about the knee and poke AJ twice and at least the second one was on purpose. He does have a better ground game than johnson but you can see where he straightens his fingers and lundges AJ’s eyes on the 2nd one. I think KOS should rematch Paulo Thiago is anything.
by hatteras on Nov 22, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
SORE LOSER
Lol, “Rumble” is trash, he looks like Kimbo on the ground.
EXPOSED!
by Lester The Pimp on Nov 22, 2009 1:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I spoke with Mario Yamasaki
in the lobby after the fights. He told me that Koscheck wasn’t hurt at all from that knee. Then when he realized he was talking to a “fan” he backed off the subject. But you could see (as he was rolling his eyes) that he thought Koz was full of shit.
by ducknow on Nov 22, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt220/justChanceIt/image-1.jpg
KOS-Penn-Swick-Carwin-Evans
by Chanceit on Nov 22, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's as blurry as saskwatch pictures though!!
the difference between a brown noser and a sh*t head..is depth perception!
by sarah- on Nov 22, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what happened
Kos didn’t get kneed in the eye — he got kneed in the arm. His arm then raked across/smashed his eye. Those of you who are fighters know what I’m talking about.
It’s still an illegal blow, and he had the right to take the time to recover.
Case closed.
by MMAven on Nov 22, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
.............
my issue with Kos getting a title shot is that he hasn’t separated himself enough from the paulo tiago loss. i think he gets waaaay too many fights and that poses a problem because he fights on damn near every card, where as there is no other fighter that fights nearly as often as he does, certainly not in the WW division. so we’re fooled into thinking he deserves a shot because he has so many wins.
do i think hardy deserves one?no, but do i think he deserves one before kos? yup because he’s won his last four fights.
kos has won 2 fights since his loss (i believe), let him string off another 2 and maybe then.
ohh it was the poke in the eye that got him, not the illegal knee to the head.
rumble can blame eye pokes but when you get poked in the face twice every fight, maybe you shouldn’t stick your big ugly head out so often.
by katch-22 on Nov 22, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
aj vs swick
Aj got taken down by the guy who has possibly best shots, along with gsp.
That being said I doubt many will take aj down.
What I know is aj hit kos arm with the knee and his finger grazed kos forehead, if u play in slow mo, u can see it.
I also don’t think poke mattered, aj got subbed but definately not fotn or sotn
by Phenomenal Angel on Nov 22, 2009 5:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Disappointed on 2 accounts
AJ is an exciting fighter but yeah he hasn’t really fought any top competition. First fight against a top guy and he was exposed a little bit on his lack of ground game. Didn’t take much effort by Kos to take his back and sink in the RNC. 13 secs left in the round, too.
Secondly, after suffering that loss, he needs to just shut up and go back in and work on his deficiencies. Any of the top guys are going to try and take him down until he shows he can deal with it. 2 fights now, Clementi and Koscheck shows he can’t.
It would be nice to see the UFC put Hardy and Kos together before the GSP fight. Hardy has been good but getting his shot a little too quick.
by sudnvictory on Nov 22, 2009 6:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Linked up this story here, good stuff!
http://curtisandkyle.com/2009/11/22/johnson-vs-koscheck-wrestling-not-eye-pokes-won-fight/
by NCSAR on Nov 22, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I fucking missed this fight. Fuck you justin tv!
xbox gt = Cr0wnedTerror Let's play gears2 and Undisputed.
by CrownedTerror on Nov 22, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
bud dont blame justintv because your 2 dumb to find a different feed once one goes down
by GOLDIGGAH on Nov 22, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eventually I did. BTW FUCK YOU!
xbox gt = Cr0wnedTerror Let's play gears2 and Undisputed.
by CrownedTerror on Nov 23, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate when
guys think they are so good that they can not lose without an excuse or to say the other guy cheated somehow (BJ). Dude Kos put you down and choked you out, there is no excuse, you just got beatup that night. Not to mention Kos did take some pretty good shots from AJ throughout the fight but hung in there. Kos was not hurt when he faked the eye injury so to say he needed an excuse after he was hurt is just stupid because he was not hurt. Time was stopped because an illegal knee was thrown, AJ is just being a poor sport. I picked AJ to KO Kos in the 1st minute of the 1st round, thinking that Kos will stand there and get KO’D because he thinks he is a striker now. If he sticks to his wrestling background he is a very trough guy to beat, Im surprized that he chooses to stand at all ever, Kos is a beast on the ground.
by HEELHOOK on Nov 23, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else catch what really happen with the whole eye poke/knee thing? Am I the only one who seen that RIGHT BEFORE the illegal knee, johnson raped koscheks eye with his thumb? Rogan missed it and calling out kos for faking it shows that Rogan is an idiot. Rogan tries to act like he knows everything and thinks his opinion is always right on. But hey at least he knows the difference between a rear naked choke and a guillotine. WEC fans know what im talking about.
by mspenc24 on Nov 23, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just saw...
..that you were the only other one who got it!
by Ancalagon on Nov 23, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did EVERYBODY but me miss what reallyhappened?!?
It wasn’t the illegal knee, OR the fingers brushing against Kos’ face after the knee – if you look very closely a few seconds before the knee Kos was on his hands & knees and Johnson jammed his right thumb in Kos’ left eye. Looked unintentional, but still f’ed up. I was stoned out of my gourd & even I saw that…
by Ancalagon on Nov 23, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The amount of illegalness in this fight was ridiculous. I love how Joe Rogan spent the entire match pointing out Koshcheck’s acting skills hehe.
by Vic De Zen on Nov 26, 2009 10:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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