UFC Quick Quote: Tito Ortiz thought he won the rematch against Forrest Griffin

I had it 2-1 griffin. Prior to the fight I jokingly told my buddies it was gonna be Griffin was gonna win a split in the attempts for the ufc to set up a third(i know the ufc has no control over judging, though sometimes it seems like it).

They are both losers, far far away from the top in the division.

Forrest couldnt bust a grape.

Tito won round one with his ground and pound 10-9. Round 2 was hard to score Tito had it won until the end when Griffin got top psition and landed a few. Round 3 all Griffin.

I didn’t lose, I had injuries coming in, the judges are blind. Shut up Tito. You didn’t do enough to win the fight, so can your excuses and give Forrest credit for being the better fighter.

It kills and pains me to listen to him speak. He is living off of prior accomplishments. Yeah Tito you were the best in 2001! We realize that Tito walked on water and parted the seas for all of mankind to follow but that was nearly a decade ago. That was the last time he beat a ranked opponent. You have the Belfort win in 05 but that was mental midget Belfort who was losing to everyone but Ivan Serati. He spent the rest of the decade getting spanked by Couture and Lidell and went on a 3 fight win tear, against the worlds most dangerous man, Ken Shamrock! You scrapped together 2 wins against new comers, Patrick Cote (who I believe may have gotten a bit robbed) and a win over Forrest(who was also hurt). No fighter or combat sport athlete is 100% when getting into the ring or stepping on to the field.
This fight against Forrest proves that he still is nothing but a gate keeper and there will be no such thing as Tito Ortiz’s run for Gold in 2010. It will be 2010, Tito Ortiz and his run to stay relevant, by talking as much crap as possible.

I thought Tito won round 1 & 2. If not, I thought a draw at best. He gassed in round 3, that was obvious, but that was a great effort after an 18 month lay-off.

It looked to me like Tito has definitely slowed down. You can tell that he has not fought in a while, he was tired and did absolutely nothing in the 3rd. Forrest looked like one of todays MMA guys and Tito looked liked he has not evolved at all. That said it was a close fight, there next one will be even better.

personally, i scored it the following:

first round 10 – 9 tito
second round 10 – 10 (yes, the 10 point must allows for a draw in a round)
third round 10 – 8 forrest

forrest wins 29 – 28

I was happy with the Kos and Saunders fights.
I thought the Tito fight should have been a draw, Tito won rounds one and two, but Forrest won the last round 10-8. The score should have been 28-28.
Lil’ Nog looked great.
Intro. there’s your picture and signature(even though a sig wasn’t really agreed upon).

Tito and Forrest fight was pretty much the same as the first one. Close fight…no real reason to argue the result. I had it 29-28 Tito, but too close to argue the result. One has to wonder if Brock’s illness had anything to do with this fight even happening. Could you imagine if Koscheck and Johnson ended up being the main event?…..viewers would literally go from hundreds of thousands, to thousands.

Koscheck looked great, but one can’t help but wonder if his post fight interview didn’t end up earning him an extra $70,000. No way in hell he deserved the “sub of the night” award….I think it was Dana’s way of saying “here’s some money…now stfu”.

He could have hit Tito with 10 clean shots in a row and nothing would have happened! Tito busted him up in the first 2 rounds, he wasn’t dominating or anything but he was the one doing damage. I think Forrest jumps around alot and tries to look active all the time and that makes it look much better than it really is.
The fight could have and probably should have went to a draw in my opinion.

he tried to hide it but shit by the 3rd round he had nothing leeft. Shame because he could have taken that fight with better cardio. He ll get it back . Not surprised by Nog though knew he was tough a long time ago. Kos is a bitch. Rematch needed.

Four points to make…

1) Tito STILL doesn’t have a legit win in like 7 years. Seven years…when does the UFC stop paying him? I know he allegedly draws fans (not that there is any indisputable proof that he does) but if the UFC is trying to position itself as a legit sport and not a side show they have to stop featuring fights where a guy talks crap and then gets beat time and time again. Isn’t the purpose of sport to strive for a championship? Since Tito is clearly NEVER going to earn a title shot, where is the “entertainment” in watching him “compete”?

2) I now believe that Tito thinks it’s okay to LIE in order to sell a fight. I used to think he was just in an alternate reality where he believed he could still compete but now I know he is just a liar. He wasn’t in the best shape of his career, he wasn’t free of injuries , and he brought NOTHING new to the cage. Straight up LIAR. Now ALL of his future “promoting” fights with his double talk is worthless, because how can anyone really think he is telling the truth? EVERYTHING he sys is a lie to make money. I know, I know, the Tito b*ll lickers will say thats part of the game…but lying isn’t….NOBODY else straight up LIES about his being prepped for a fight like he does. Sorry Tito, the “self promotion” well has run dry.

3) If someone says he has legendary cardio one more time….I will vomit on his treadclimber, I haven’t seen this EVER.He is always gassed in the later rounds…EVERY fight. Maybe there was a time, you know when guys wore jeans with belt buckles into the cage, when his wrestling training put him a step ahead but now EVERYBODY has better cardio….EVERYBODY.

4) To all you Tito sympathizers who are b*tching about the judges decisions, it was EXACTLY the same in their first fight. Some judge thought Tito won all three rounds back then…WTF? Sorry it went the other way this time. But for the record, a couple of takedowns with a couple of punches and an errant elbow that cut Forest isnt really dominating the first two rounds. In fact isnt countering or getting out of every position Tito had him in a sign that Forest had more skill? Yes.

Yeah, he used to have a a decent fan base. I heard a ton of boos last night and the crowds chanting seemed to be for Forest, not Tito. As far as his TUF coaching season, as past his prime as he was Ken Shamrock had something to do with the success of thethat season, not that that was a HUGE season as far as number go. Again thats was two has beens promoted as a WWE style grudge match. Not real, true sport.

His pay per view numbers…it can be argued that his only really big PPV had something to do with a guy named Chuck Liddell also on the fight card…you know the guy who was on Entourage, Dancing with the Stars and the most famous MMA fighter in the USA. BTW, I know he was on those shows after his Tito fights but it makes the point of how famous Chuck is and was even back then. Chuck was definetly apart of that equation. So I am still not convinced Tito is a huge draw…I guess we’ll find out how well 106 did with PPV buys even with the help of UFC cover boy Forest helping him out.

Also, each division does only have about 10 guys in regular rotation vying for a title. As soon as they get beat a few times (or a couple or even once sometimes) they are dropped out or given a last chance gatekeeper fight. Seriously… count em up. Name the eleventh ranked guy in any division that is legitimately on track for a title shot or isn’t one loss from being shown the door. Out of all five divisions there may only be 2-5 guys not ranked top ten in the division, not on title track, not one fight from contract cancellation. I say I again, the whole purpose of all sports is to win a championship, the only way to do it is to win, once you stop being a legitimate winner you’re career should be over…although the UFC did sign Kimbo and walk Lesner to a title, some maybe they are no longer trying to be a legit sport and only going for short term profits at the expense of the long term benefit to the sport.

Jeez, I type poorly….

Not to get too far off topic but NO I don’t think that Brock deserved a title shot. Since when does a loss (on an elementary move) to Mir and a decision win to Heath “born to lose” Herring get you a title shot? That and his “win” against a guy with a losing record prior to the UFC where his only fights… not exactly climbing the ladder. EVERY other heavy weight in the division has had a harder road than Brock to get a title shot. And YES, Randy did deserve EVERY title shot he got. Every one of them. Look and his fightography…it’s impossible.

Since we are talking about Randy and Brock….did you not see that the UFC hand picked Brock’s fight against Randy who: 1) had already vacated the title so it was a spurious title fight anyway, 2) had previously left the division because he was getting beaten by size not skill and 3) had 18 months of ring rust. Could they have picked a better situation for Brock to be “given” the title? And the argument that he deserved the shot because he went on to win the match is bunk as well. Matt Serra got his shot against GSP by winning a game show. Just because the circumstances that night favored Serra (and Brock on his night) DOES NOT mean he deserved the shot over a TON of other guys in the division. It is up to the promotion to marshall the order in which the championship fights are given or risk looking like pro wrestling instead of a real sport…which the UFC did with Lesner (and Serra). Are you really gonna try to argue that kind of logic? Match fighting isn’t like other sports where the schedule is made far in advance and lesser teams are given a chance to upset better team long before their roster is even set. It only hurts the integrity of the sport long term (but lines Zuffa’s pockets short term) to pull these kind of “stunts”.

I thought Tito looked slow and old, he said this is the best shape he has ever been in, I say BS. He couldnt even move in the 3rd round, anyways it was a close fight, Im not surprized Forrest won.

It’s like Tito to always find something to complain about and to find excuses. I’m glad Forrest won!