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UFC 106 results recap from last night for 'Ortiz vs Griffin 2'

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The lights have finally been dimmed on UFC 106: "Ortiz vs. Griffin 2" from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Tito Ortiz and Forrest Griffin hooked 'em up in the main event, which was a rematch from their controversial first encounter back in 2006. And tonight was eerily similar to the first chapter, with the exception of the final result.

"The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" -- 18 months since his last fight and 13 months removed from major back surgery -- started off strong, but faded as the fight progressed. He hit takedowns early and beat up Griffin with patented ground and pound.

It didn't last.

Griffin got stronger as the fight went on and took over in the final frame, doing enough to earn the split decision nod from the the three judges sitting ringside. Both fighters revealed that they were limited because of injuries -- Ortiz with a "cracked skull" and bulging discs, Griffin with a broken foot -- but that didn't stop them from putting on a great fight.

With the score now even (1-1) it likely sets up a rubber match in the near future. In the meantime, Ortiz and Griffin will likely head to the sidelines and heal from their injuries before returning to action.

And after tonight it can't come soon enough -- they both put on great performances, hopefully quieting the critics who have besieged them in the past 12 months ... for at least the time being.

Star-divide

Anthony Johnson was taking a huge leap up in competition in his co-featured fight against Josh Koscheck, looking to make a claim that he is a serious threat to division deity, Georges St. Pierre.

Not yet.

In a fight that was marred with odd stoppages, including several for inadvertent eye pokes and phantom illegal strikes, Koscheck and Johnson more than made up for it in a thrilling second round

Both fighters traded big blows before Koscheck secured a powerful takedown. He then brutalized "Rumble" on the ground with relentless ground strikes, splitting him wide open. Johnson did what he had to do to avoid taking further damage, but in the process, gave up his back.

Big mistake -- "Kos" quickly sunk in a fight-ending rear naked choke.

It was another big win for Koscheck, who later went on to call out Dan Hardy in his post-fight remarks, saying he hadn't fought anyone like Koscheck to earn an opportunity to challenge for the belt.

He might be right ... but it probably won't matter much in the grand scheme of things. Although, it would be a fine addition to a hurtin' UFC 108 card.

It appeared that the promotion finally threw Paulo Thiago a bone when they booked him to take on newcomer Jacob Volkmann in a welterweight match up after starting his tenure with back-to-back fights against top contenders Josh Koscheck and Jon Fitch.

Not so fast.

Volkmann put up a great a fight and nearly finished the Brazilian in the third round with a crafty choke, but Thiago escaped and hung on to win a unanimous decision. It was back-and-forth for most of the contest with Thiago getting the better of the power exchanges.

In fact, Thiago dropped Volkmann on numerous occasions, but the collegiate wrestling stand out was game and kept on coming.

The crowd voiced its displeasure on numerous occasions, but overall, it was a very competitive fight. And while it didn't end early, there was no shortage of opportunities on both ends.

Surprisingly good stuff.

Brazilians Antonio Rogerio Nogueira and Luis Cane reluctantly collided in a 205-pound match up that could slingshot the winner into the upper echelon of light heavyweight division.

Nogueira -- the brother of former interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira -- was making his promotional debut against the winner of three straight. "Banha," meanwhile, has been a menacing force in the division.

But tonight was just not his night.

Nogueira relied on his superior boxing skills to pick apart Cane, drilling him repeatedly with a big left hook. Cane couldn't escape it despite his best efforts, including a brief Kalib Starnes impersonation, tucking tail and running from his opponent.

It was short-lived, however, because Nogueira eventually caught up with him and dropped his fellow countryman with a thundering left that put him down for the count. Nogueira pounced and sprinkled in a few head bouncers just for good measure before the referee stepped in and stopped the action.

Very impressive.

Cane is a bad dude and Nogueria totally dominated the fight from start to finish. Keep an eye on "Lil Nog" in 2010 ... he could very well make a run in a very talented, and deep, weight class.

Phil Baroni stepped back inside the Octagon for the first time since 2005, taking on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 7 winner, Amir Sadollah, in the opening match of the televised pay-per-view (PPV) broadcast.

Unfortunately for the "New York Bad Ass," he's still in search of his first UFC win in more than seven years.

Sadollah weathered the typical Baroni early storm, eating several hard punches, but not without inflicting damage of his own. His key to victory was the clench, which Baroni seemingly has zero ability to defend for 15 minutes.

Despite getting drilled with knees and standing elbows for most of the fight, Baroni -- bloodied and beaten -- hung tough throughout. He demonstrated his trademark heart and chin, but he also faded early ... as usual.

Not too sure where Baroni lands after tonight -- it may have been make or break. Perhaps he gets one more bite at the apple before he's asked to pack his bags. Sadollah, on the other hand, gets back on track with a win over an experienced veteran.

That’s enough from us — now it’s your turn to discuss "Ortiz vs. Griffin 2" in the comments section below. Sound off, Maniacs. Let’s hear what you have to say.

For complete UFC 106 results and detailed blow-by-blow commentary of the televised main card fights click here.

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i hate tito..

he always says hes 100% but then he loses and says he was hurt, this is why i never ever buy or even bought into the tito ortiz 2.0 bullshit..

by guyverbob on Nov 22, 2009 12:53 AM EST reply actions  

amen

I jumped off my couch when Forest won. Same Tito bullshit sniff, sniff, cry, cry my back hurts, my head hurts. Take your loss like a man you balloon-headed turd. Awesome job Forest.

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I was booing the whole time during the main event

A fight between two trash fighters who don’t belong in the UFC. God they sucked. It was like rewatching Matt Hamill-Andy reese fight all over again. Can you imagine what Luiz cane would do to either guy? And he got absolutely trucked by my Boy Lil Nog.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Nov 22, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Both are trash

and I would agree with the posters saying they clearly are not near the top of the division. I could not tell Tito had been training with Freddie Roach because the punches he threw looked like something my 9 year old niece could have done. I know he’s a wrestler but EVOLVE!!! His whole game of staying in guard to g and p is outdated know and he needs to learn how to pass and mount lol. As for Forrest, his punches are just as ugly as Titos but at least they come at a rapid pace and he actually throws them from time to time, but I don’t think he will knock anybody out… ever. Tito had some of the worst technique I’ve seen and looked gassed in the 3rd. Put him away Forrest! Overall, decent fights. Lil Nog and Saunders impressed me. Im glad I streamed it tho

by fightfan51 on Nov 22, 2009 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

just my 2 cents

told u all aj was overrated.hes just got size and athleticsm going for him.no disrespect to kos,who has come on leaps and bounds,but aj for the most part was outstruck by a dude who has a legkick and an overhand right!! ok he won with his wrestling but couldve won if he kept it standing imo.it was great to see the oirish idiot kayoed by the world beating killa bee!! lil nog looked awesome i actually thought banha was gonna steal the decision.thiago silva was in his corner so it puts that beef to bed.baroni gassed himself out walking to the octagon and how the fk could jacob have been cleared to fight if he had a fractured skull? all in all a decent night not great.
and huys i expect more substandard main events if dana is serious about doing a show a week next year.even if he brings the little guys across his roster still wont be big enough.through greed we could go backwards

by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

in fact id say the undercard was as good if not better!

by scott1 on Nov 22, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

it was a good fight. he gassed early thoguh

dude.....i am

by brendog on Nov 22, 2009 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

lil nog

looked really goodgained respect for kos especiallt after his pos fight coomments

dude.....i am

by brendog on Nov 22, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

Kos is such a tool

The guy gets knocked out by Paulo Thiago, beats fucking Frank Trigg, then simply exposes AJ’s nonexistent ground game and thinks he deserves a title shot?

Good event overall with lots of exciting fights except for the main event which, as expected, sucked.

by frosnt1 on Nov 22, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree.

I’d like to see Kos/Hardy and the winner has the privelige to be destroyed by GSP.

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

So was Kos trashing his AKA butt-buddy and BFF Mike Swick?

I'm kind of a big deal.

by P-Dub on Nov 22, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

BTW

Win or no win, Kos is still a fag.

I'm kind of a big deal.

by P-Dub on Nov 22, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Same thing I thought, apparently Swick is a nobody as Hardy hasn’t beaten any top contenders. What a tool, I bet he’d have kept quiet if Swick had have beaten Hardy. If Dan has to have another fight then he got screwed by the UFC worse than Hendo.

by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

They have to fight

Dan did what he was told he had to do. He gets his title fight or I’ll be pissed.

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

And say what you will

But Kos has been game to take on anybody, anytime, anywhere, on 2 weeks notice and all for 2 years now. He won some and he lost some but you can’t say he hasn’t put in his dues. He’s still top 5 in the division and totally within his right o call Hardy out.

The one and only Smitty...

by D_Smith on Nov 22, 2009 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point

Kos definately has been to “go to” guy on short notice but I think it’s still too early for him to get a crack at GSP immediately. KOS/Hardy – UFC 108. Make it so Dana. Winner gets eaten by GSP.

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It is too early but...

the division is stagnant right now. Everyone who deserves a shot already got one and there’s nothing left to do but muck around. I’ll tell you what..the AKA boys are the only real good match ups left. They need to man up and make it happen.

The one and only Smitty...

by D_Smith on Nov 22, 2009 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Were you listening?

He was asking for a matchup between him and Hardy to determine GSP’s challenger.

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Nov 22, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you mean Griffon vs. Ortiz at the end there?

by malonish on Nov 22, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

Tito 'Let me make another excuse' Otriz

could he not just thank the fans and leave the damn octagon without making excuses…..sad

by DrDanielT on Nov 22, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

Tito

Tito is a pathetic loser, always has been, always will be, no wonder introvert such a big fan of that douchbag.

by mma guru on Nov 22, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

bogus fight

I AM NEVER BUYING ANOTHER PAY PER VEIW FIGHT!! Tito is a trash talker that cant back it up. Forrest cant win a fight against a washed up HAS BEEN. Time for both of these BUM’S to RETIRE!!! I will stick with spike tv, that way im not angry about loosing 44 dollars when i witness a BAR FIGHT. Dana white can talk all he wants the truth is that was a load of shit!! The Nogeura should have been the main event.

by angryf8n on Nov 22, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

Wahh

You do that stick to watching fight nights on spike for the rest of your life, good decision. How could you be angry with that fight card lots of great finishes and fights.

by mma guru on Nov 22, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

never buy again?

Righhhhhht…….

How many times is that going to get said after yet another pay per view….

Talking to you is like having phone sex with a deaf girl...

by Chief Warrant Officer on Nov 22, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

???

What were you watching? Strikeforce challengers? Lil nog in the main? Sure, let’s watch a guy in his UFC debut fight after 2 former champs, lol. Great fights tonight, well worth a PPV buy. Have fun with UFC Unleashed.

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Some of these guys r not true MMA fans

Anybody that complains about the main event and doesn’t say anything about the other ‘great’ fights is not a true MMA fan, they only respond to the hype of the main event not recognizing that they witness some other great fights and upcoming title contendors.

by THORAZINE on Nov 22, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Guys like angryf8n just have issues period. If every fight isn’t a brawl or some one doesn’t get knocked, they hate the whole card.

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Just leave him be

He needs a few more beers, a couple more steroids and a clean Ed Hardy shirt/cap combo. Then he’ll be fine.

I'm kind of a big deal.

by P-Dub on Nov 22, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Same old sht from tito

I knew tito would make excuses as soon as his loss as he always does. He such a piece of trash, I’m glad friffin put him in his place that 3rd down was an epic beating he layed on tito.

by mma guru on Nov 22, 2009 12:57 AM EST reply actions  

UFC is fixed

How much more obvious can it get. I dont care for tito or forest but come on. Tito won the first round, won two thirds of the secoind round and come out in the third and didnt even throw a punch until 1minute into the round and then never even tried a take down. F’n ridiculous. Dana white set that match up so there could be a big threepeat and we all would get sucked into the big rematch. Not me. Im done wasting my money on this crap WWF’s got nothing on these guys

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 1:11 AM EST reply actions  

hmmm..

all he did was take downs, little damage, just take downs, griffin was bleeding cause he has alot of scare tssue not the so much the hits..

by guyverbob on Nov 22, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Any UFC fight ive seen in the past and Ive seen most, A take down during a round where theres no other action usually give the round to the guy doing the take dowm.
The third round of that fight was an absolute joke

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Takedown should not count as an offensive maneuver.

Unless you do something with it, it means nothing. Dry humping in guard doesn’t count as gnp either.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Nov 22, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Forrest did a much better job of neutralizing Jacob in guard and getting back up. Jacob definitely landed some good elbows that did some damage, but not nearly as many as he (and some Jacob apologists) seem to think. He couldn’t possibly have thought that he already had the fight wrapped up going into the third round.

I'm kind of a big deal.

by P-Dub on Nov 22, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no clue how any of these judges gave the fight to Tito

I thought he would win, but he only got the second round in my opinion.

@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner

by _Felix_ on Nov 22, 2009 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

Goes to show how badly they need to revamp judging in MMA.

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Takedown and minor gnp man - all that matters

Then again Forrest didn’t help either with his sucking it up. His “jits” are underrated like Goulet’s chin.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Nov 22, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

And what did forest do. I didnt see any damage on tito. The fight was fixed

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

Are you serious?

Tito got a couple takedowns, but Forest got back up once and swept him another time. Forest owned the stand up and did you not see the 8000 shots Tito took in the 3rd? Take your conspiracies elsewhere.

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Thats exactly my point. Tito didnt even fight back in the third. He didnt appear hurt. You probably still think wrestling is real

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe.....?

The reason that Tito didn’t do anything in the 3rd round was because he was completely gassed.

by naturalshadow on Nov 22, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

I guess anything is possible. he sure looked gassed, but then again, thats how to throw a fight

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, get real. Do you honestly think that Tito would throw a fight? With an ego as big as his?

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

How is that your point? I just explained how Forest should’ve gotten the decision which he did. How is that fixed?

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Mypoint was that Tito just stood there in the third and never even attempted a take down and didnt even throw a puch at forest until over a minute into the round. sure looked set up to me

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you not just say yourself that he was gassed? He sure looked it to me, but I guess he was “acting” right? If you think UFC is fixed, I guess you should stop watching then.

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

That was sarcasm buddy, Guess I cant expect you to get that, Money is the root of all evil and better men have done much worse for money. Yes I do believe it is possible that this fight was fixed and I will not spend any more of my money buying pay per view UFC fights.

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Now I get it

When someone calls you out for being a dumbass, you were just being sarcastic? too funny

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

between you and guyverbob, im just shattered with the insults. Is that the only way you can know how to respond to a comment you dont like. Get a life

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

ur the one that started name calling first, i recall u calling me douchebob or sumthing like that..

by guyverbob on Nov 22, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

gotta like the hypocrisy

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

You comment that started this was “U R dumb” I believ thats an insult. Thats why I replied with an insult………..Cant even rememeber your own comments, no wonder this conversation went bad. Goodnight douche…..

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Like I said, take your conspiracies elsewhere. I’m done troll feeding now.

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Free forum bud. If you dont like comments, dont reply, That simple.

by spitfour on Nov 22, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Why does every close fight always get called fixed?

If you think the UFC is fixed then you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, Tito hasn’t fought since UFC 84 and had just had 2 competetive rounds, he gassed plain and simple. Forrest was taken down earlier but showed towards the end of the second that he could sprawl or sweep in order to keep the fight on the feet. The same thing happened in the first fight, Ortiz got some good takedowns but gassed and Forrest took control. Tito lost to the better conditioned fighter, let them settle the rivalry in a rubber match, if you think it’s fixed you don’t have to watch and nobody will miss your daft conspiracy theories.

by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The average IQ is to blame

David, most people don’t see the world for how simple it really is. No one is willing to waste their lives over throwing a fight on this large of a stage. If Tito did throw that fight, what are his gains? If he wins the fight he moves up the division and has potential to make a ton of money. People that have their ideas about fixed fights and grand conspiracies need to just keep them to themselves. You are wasting other peoples time by spouting drivel all over my computer screen.

Whatever happened to the days when we could just lock all the crazies up and forget about them?

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

knucklehead

My guess is you’ve never competed in any type of combat sport, Tito was absolutely gassed, it’s possible even Tito could dump a fight, but then why watch anything with that attitude? Crazy conspiracy theorist, yeah… I know bush ordered the planes to hit the towers 911.

by THORAZINE on Nov 22, 2009 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually....

You should watch the movie Zeitgeist. Might make you think twice about 9/11.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

by Merlin9 on Nov 22, 2009 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

takedowns

tito tried at least two takedowns that i remember in the third round.

formerly JB, trying to figure out this whole new SB deal. oh, and another thing; i'm not impressed by your performance.

by . JB . on Nov 22, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Those weren’t takedown attempts so much as they were Tito falling forward at Forrest’s feet.

I'm kind of a big deal.

by P-Dub on Nov 22, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

truth PW

Fedor is the king…
P4P best ever.
Now get on your knees…
and bow down to the sweater!!! -infamous Mania Blogger.

by jay. on Nov 22, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

takedowns

hahaha. hey, i never said they were pretty.

formerly JB, trying to figure out this whole new SB deal. oh, and another thing; i'm not impressed by your performance.

by . JB . on Nov 22, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was a good event

I wouldn’t have minded if I actually bought that PPV. I ended up watching at a bar, but it was good.

Main Event— I thought it was a lot closer than the first fight. I was worried the judges were going to give Tito the 1st and 2nd for his combined 3 takedowns. And what the hell was Tito’s strategy in the 3rd? And how did Forrest not turn it up a notch and put him away. It seemed he was only sticking to his 2 or 3 strike combos. Its good to be disciplined, which is what he was doing, but come on man. When I’m yelling at you to flurry, explode, finish, then you GOTTA do it. Anyways, glad Forrest got a win. Fight of the Night.

Kos/Johnson — I was impressed with Kos’s ability to not get hit in this fight. Rumble is known for being an accurate and powerful puncher, and he MAYBE only wobbled Kos (at most) twice. Kos’s boxing was holding up, but I’m glad he used his wrestling to get this win. I also liked how he saw an opportunity and finished, instead of trying to sacrifice position to punch his opponent. He saw the choke, and committed to the finish. My dislike for Johnson only added to the pleasure of watching him lose. If AJ wants to get to the top of this division, he’s going to need more work off his back, since he can only hang on and try to get stood up. Kos vs Hardy looks like a good fight, and I think the winner would be justified a title shot.

Lil Nog/Cane — I was suprised, but I guess I shouldn’t have. I doubted a debuting PRIDE star, but I also doubted a Nogueria. I like Nog, but Cane was red hot. Very impressed with Nog’s boxing. I’d like to see Nog get the winner of Rashad/T.Silva. Winner of that fights the champion Machida/Shogun.

I thought Volkman won. Dont see how P.Thiago got all 3 rounds, thought for sure he lost the 2nd and the 3rd was close, but Volk was in a VERY dominant side crucifix and had a tight choke on. But whatever, it was a meaningless fight. AJ vs Paulo, so AJ can lose 2 in a row, or so Paulo can get kicked out the UFC.

Saunders/Marcus — I didn’t expect Saunders to win, much less by KO. The obvious gameplan was for Ben to keep his reach advantage, use kicks, and when things got close, Thai plum and knees. I didn’t think he’d execute it that well. First time Marcus is TKO’d by strikes. VERY impressive. Interesting to see where both guys go from here. KO of the Night

Kendall/Rosholt — I was rooting for Kendall, but after seeing Rosholt dominate Leben, and Almeida beat Kendall on takedowns and position, I thought Rosholt would get the win here. Very nice triangle by Kendall, one that I think gets Submission of the Night. Seemed like Rosholt panicked and tapped too quickly though.

George Sotiropoulous – very good ground (nothing new) decent stand up to go with.
Brian Foster — glad he beat the crap outta that cheating, bird-nosed retard Brock Larson.

by Synyster_08 on Nov 22, 2009 1:17 AM EST reply actions  

They both suck war Lil Nog

I don’t like either fighter I think they’re both babies but I was leaning towards Tito just so I could see Forrest run out of the ring crying again. Forrest has the stand up of a drunk and he still picked apart Cheeto

by Kayo on Nov 22, 2009 1:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Good Fights

The main event was good entertainment, but it is easy to see there is quite a gap in where Griffin is at and the top guys. Heart and cardio are great, but speed and explosiveness are required to reside at the top of the food chain. As for Tito, his injury excuses have nothing to do with his stiff, amatuerish looking standup game. The sport has evolved way beyond him.

Good win for Koscheck, but Rumble is clearly also a legit force in the division. A few times, he hurt Kos, and got the better of most of the standup. No reason for him to hang his head.

by CL62 on Nov 22, 2009 1:23 AM EST reply actions  

Tito won. I am a fan of Tito’s and i like forrest. 2 totally diff personalities so i dont even kno why u hate…If Tito wins he boasts about…when he loses he makes excuses..When Forrest hes gracious when he wins n cries when he loses or runs out…So everyone knows that comin in…but Tito shoulda got the 1st..n 2nd definitely…the 3rd i wouldve evn be nice en=oiugh to say a 10-8 forrest, but whoever the judge for 30-27 is retarded…so Draw or Tito Win …

by Ruda on Nov 22, 2009 1:32 AM EST reply actions  

i only bought the card for lil nog

Glad people who only watch ufc know who he is now the guys a legend

by Kayo on Nov 22, 2009 1:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

UFC Fights Live Stream

I am not going to post the link but shoot me an email before the next fight to azufcfan(@)gmx.com and ill provide the link

by azufcfan on Nov 22, 2009 2:02 AM EST reply actions  

Kos / Hardy

Kos would put Hardy on his back easily.

…Imagine how GSP will tool Hardy on the ground?

by DubNub on Nov 22, 2009 2:34 AM EST reply actions  

amir vs baroni

Was definately fotn
That was awesome

by Phenomenal Angel on Nov 22, 2009 2:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

amir

got screwed. i believe amir put on the performance of the night, as well as fight of the night, he deserved a bonus. i also thought saunders’ KO was more impressive than nogs, tho not by much. i figured dana might throw out extra bonuses tonight but no dice :/. on the most important note, i ask YET AGAIN, HOW does tito ortiz have any fans whatsoever. he is a classless arrogant excuse making douchebag. all we heard going into tonight was now we get to see tito at 100%, injury FREE, and he never felt better. as SOON as he loses, OH im injured here and here and this and that. STFU. i hope dana cuts him lose and we never have to hear from him again. not to mention he had a year to train and he gassed quicker than the first fight. it embaresses me as a human being to hear people still defend him.

by Storhaug on Nov 22, 2009 3:12 AM EST reply actions  

kos deserves a shot over hardy

hardy has had 4 fights in the ufc….and 3 of his 4 wins have gone the distance…he hasnt shown himself to be a dominating fighter and finisher….he has 4 wins….but theres only so much u can say about a guy being “tough” and saying he deserve a shot only out of default…

koscheck is 12-4 in the octagon…..to reach 12 wins in the octagon is a freaking RARE feat…how many active fighters have 12 wins in the ufc? not many….so how dare hardy come in and get 4 wins and get a shot when koscheck has 12 wins and gets passed over…

hes the only guy ever in ufc history to have 12 wins in the octagon and never get a title shot…..

yes gsp beat him…but that wasnt a title match…you cant just not give a guy a title shot because the champion beat a guy once before he became champion….

koscheck really is the only guy left who even has a chance at gsp…no im not saying he can beat gsp…i still think gsp would win…but out of everyone left at 170 he has the best chance due to his style…

now that gsp has chosen to rely so much on his wrestling there isnt anyone in the division that has a chance to counter that except kos…yea i know that gsp dominated kos in the wrestling game in their first match…but that was at a time when kos was so obsessed with becoming a striker and ignoring his wrestling…

but after tonight you can see that kos has gotten back to his wrestling roots and i thinkj hes the only person who has a chance at stuffing gsp’s takedowns and reversing positions…

like i said i think gsp would still win..but i think kos has the best chance out of anyone of giving gsp his best fight

jake shields is the highest ranked fighter to have never fought i highly ranked fighter...i cant wait till hendo signs to strikeforce and murders that talentless waste of flesh

by HellaHectic on Nov 22, 2009 4:04 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

kos was the last person to win a round over gsp

yep, kos is the last person to have won a round over gsp

jake shields is the highest ranked fighter to have never fought i highly ranked fighter...i cant wait till hendo signs to strikeforce and murders that talentless waste of flesh

by HellaHectic on Nov 22, 2009 4:35 AM EST up reply actions  

A lot of Kos’ wins have been less than impressive performances over less that impressive competition.

I'm kind of a big deal.

by P-Dub on Nov 22, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

It's sad that GSP has no competition

To be honest there is several guys in contention for the # 1, GSP is such a huge favorite over anyone that a clear challenger still needs to be set.
Kos, marquart, hendo, hardy, put those guys together and the last one standing is # 1 contender.
As for gsp, maybe they should move him up to MW for a fight to keep him busy. MAybe feed him Franklin.

by Dball on Nov 22, 2009 1:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And...

He’s also lost to St. Pierre, Alves and Paulo Thiago in the last two years.

Hardy is undefeated in the UFC and (for some reason you don’t seem to notice life exists outside the UFC) he’s had 30 fights and not lost to anything other than a DQ since 2006.

If Brock gets title shots just by turning up I can’t see how you can complain about a guy with a pretty great record getting a shot over someone with 3 losses in the last two years. Not forgetting he’s also just beat one of the other top contenders in Swick.

I’ll admit I’m not Koscheck’s biggest fan, not helped at all by the incident last night over the illegal knee – It was 100% illegal but it also did no damage whatsoever. For Josh to play up to that and almost get the fight stopped (he was starting to get handled just before the incident too so the breather would have helped) says a lot about his character, or lack of.

by Jimrod on Nov 22, 2009 6:43 AM EST reply actions  

u serious?

dude koscheck has had 16 fights in the ufc…how exactly do you think hardy’s ufc record would look after fighting 16 fights in the ufc?

yea and in those 30 fights hardy has been in the only person win that was truly impressive is swick….he hasnt fought anyone,,,the calibur of fighters hes padded his record with are not top contenders….

kos’s wins over diego sanchez, dustin hazelett, chris lytle, and tonight’s win over johnson are way more impressive than the opponents that hardy has beaten….

yea the dude lost to gsp but gsp is the best in the world…plus kos actually won a round against him….and he lost to alves who is the 2nd best in the world but he also took that fight on short notice…not that that is an excuse but thiago had him hurt several times but he couldnt put kos away……and neither could gsp…..

the thiago fight can be argued was an early stoppage…kos was dominating every second of that fight till he got dropped…that entire night was full of controversial stoppages….if the fight had taken place in america with the usual american refs they would have given him more than 2 seconds to recover…he was pulling guard…yea he was dazed but pulling guard is what every ju jitsu guy does when he gets rocked….not that kos is a jits guy…

as for the brock title shot everyone on the planet knows that was about money and ratings…kos doesnt get money and ratings so that is a mute point….

jake shields is the highest ranked fighter to have never fought i highly ranked fighter...i cant wait till hendo signs to strikeforce and murders that talentless waste of flesh

by HellaHectic on Nov 22, 2009 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

DJ

I must ask… as we have seen in the replay many times, AJ’s knee did not directly strike Koscheck’s head. He hit Koscheck’s arm which carried into his head. How is that illegal?

by DJ(MMA) on Nov 22, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh don't get me wrong...

I agree Kos is a decent contender but he’s already had a shot, before he gets another there’s no reason to stop Hardy having a go first – his first two fights in the UFC were against the usual journeymen fighters, followed by gatekeeper Davis, and then contender Swick so he’s paid his dues as far as qualification goes.

I agree that Hardy or pretty much anyone else will get Schooled by GSP but nothing wrong with having a go. Kos does have a better style match for GSP but you never know since the Serra fight how it may go! The fight that makes most sense is of course Kos vs Hardy but at the end of the day someone has to fight GSP or he may as well retire. Hardy is the only contender he hasn’t beat yet so his shot is fair.

by Jimrod on Nov 22, 2009 7:57 AM EST reply actions  

KOS and Hardy

Winner gets GSP.

They’re both ready. Sure Kos faught last night but he’s good to go this time next month or sooner. Hardy too by the look of him after the swick fight.

Then GSP.

Hardy should have to beat someone else before George. I’d love to see Hardy and Jake Ellenberger go… although it does nothing for Dan w/ regard to rankings.

Most of us need to be reminded what we already know before we need to be taught a new lesson

by Bigger Zino on Nov 22, 2009 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

Lidell vs Oritz

Have a feeling this will be Tito’s next fight, anyone else?

by RAMJAM1326 on Nov 22, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

What would be the point

Except to give Chuck a W to retire on. He’s already whipped Tito’s ass twice, and they weren’t even close fights.

I'm kind of a big deal.

by P-Dub on Nov 22, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed!

Chuck would just drop him for a third time. If Tito was some how able to get a win against Chuck, all it would show is how far Chuck has fallen.

by naturalshadow on Nov 22, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Ortiz-Griffin 3

Both fights were good, neither are going to win any titles anytime soon and both hold a SD win over each other, might as well have a rubber match. Either that or feed one of them to Lil Nog.

HOTN was Cane running at Nog, getting hit then turning around and running away before getting KO’d. I thought that Cane got found out a bit by Cantwell so this fight was winnable for Nog and he put on the POTN, he outclassed a top striker and made him look like a coward before putting him away, Nog proved that he’s in the top 5.

by David W-S on Nov 22, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i really enjoyed the Amir Sadollah fight. That was some amazing Muay Thai in that whole 15mins of fighting!

by Vic De Zen on Nov 25, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

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