Michael Bisping: Don't 'Count' me out after one bad night
by Jesse Holland on Nov 12, 2009 9:49 AM EST
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"Fighting is different than other sports because you’re not competing as regularly. If a football player has a bad game, he’s allowed to do that because he plays once or twice a week. With fighting, it’s once every few months. So if you have a bad night, it gets built up. It’s not like my career is in shatters. I’m 18-2. The two guys I’ve lost to are former champions. There’s no shame in that. I do feel pressure in wanting to come back and perform, but it’s not like I’m finished as some people seem to think. It’s going to take more than one loss for me to hang up my gloves; that’s for sure."
England’s-own, Michael Bisping, talks about his upcoming showdown against Denis Kang at UFC 105 from the Manchester Evening News (MEN) Arena in Manchester, England, on Nov. 14. "The Count" is coming off perhaps one of the most memorable knockouts in UFC history, getting demolished by a crushing Dan Henderson right hand/flying forearm combination at UFC 100 last July. It was just his second loss in 20 fights and the former TUF coach/contestant refuses to be defined by the defeat. How will he be defined after Saturday night?
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kang should win this fight but man, he is such a choke artist i could see biping pulling it out as well… keep your money away from this fight, its a coin flip at best
by brendan on Nov 12, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions
not counting you out yet… but ffs dont circle to the left this time u muppet!
by CoNr on Nov 12, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I thought it was funny on the build up show when he laughed at himself for circling the wrong way..lol
I still have hope for bisping and three things he has said in the lead up to this fight have made me believe he is going to win it
1) He is coming to the octagon much heavier (he weighed in at 183 for hendo)
2) His training has been focused on strength rather than cardio
3) He is going back to his old style of aggression and overwhelming opponents with strikes rather than the outright tactical nonesense we saw against Leben and hendo
If he does go back to his old ways, win or lose atleast he will be entertaining
With Kang wanting to establish himself decisively aswell I dont think its going the distance but I do think it will be a blast to watch
by Confused on Nov 12, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
bisping means 3 losses….as hamill won that fight
by deadgrassinyard on Nov 12, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think Kang will rattle Bisping early on and that will make Bisping more cautious and throw his game plan off enough to allow Kang to impose his will. Bisping is going to want to play the in and out game and retreat when pressure comes. It should be a good fight and I really hope Bisping loses again in dramatic fashion. I think he’s a solid fighter but not exactly great at any one area of MMA other than being athletic. Plus he’s a douche.
by Buster Bluth on Nov 12, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Dubs emailed me to find out where I have been so I guess its time for me to throw some input in here. First off, UFC 103 was awesome. I got thrown out of the floor seats because my drunk friend spilled beer all over the guys in front of us and then there was a huge fight in the crowd because of us… if you were involved I apologize, I drank alot an was just having a good time. Vitor doesn’t deserve a shot at Anderson yet, even he knows it. Why the UFC doesn’t think Dan or Nate deserve another chance is beyond me. Although I still think Andy would kill them it would be better than Leites fighting anyone. Randy vs. Vera is very intersting to me but I think that if Randy wins it might be a little premature to give him a title shot against Machida. I hope Bisping gets killed. I used to like him but the TUF season made me excited to see ol’ decision Dan knock his block off. This season of TUF blows for all the hype put into it. I think Roy did a great job in both his fights and anyone who doesn’t think so should try fighting 4 times in 6 weeks and see how they feel about taking a bunch of damage in their first fight. I am sick of Sweeney always talking like he is the baddest dude on the planet but I will admit he is good. Rampage made me laugh with the treat me like a sucker comment. That was perfect. He is a crappy coach but he’s right, its not the ultimate coach is the ultimate fighter. Its about who comes in and has the heart and desire to succeed. On a personal note I had a little baby girl two months ago, which I named Alex after my best friend who was killed in Iraq. I think Veterans Day is stupid, we should be honoring all military members every day of the year. If you are an employer and you make your veteran employees work on Veterans day you should be punched in the head by Shane Carwin. I got a 58 inch flat screen for my living room and if anyone is in Dallas and wants to come by and watch the fights or football on Sunday hit me up. I think that about does it…
by Sp00ner1234 on Nov 12, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
It is not that we are counting him out after one bad fight… IT is that in 8 fights with the UFC his 3 best showings were Charles McCarthy, Jason Day, and at the time the one dimensional-wrestling Rashad Evans(who has become more well rounded since). Evrything else was ahh ok. Eric Shaefer gave him trouble and I thought they gifted him that stop. Leben was a decent showing; Stick and move play it safe don’t engage. Hammil I won’t comment on that disgrace. Hendo, Thank You for putting a stop to his ridiculously arrogant mouth! Kang I think is going to be all to well rounded for him. Kang has better stand up, better jits, and actual KO power. Where does Bisping win this fight? I think his only chance is mentally. KAng has been a bit of a mental midget as of late, looks good some fights-looks horrible others. As long as he come out with confidence Kang wins!
by Da Monkey on Nov 12, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I like Bisping more now then I did before the KO. Sometimes fighters need to be reminded they are human and can lose. Now that he has been reminded (soundly I might add) he seems….hungrier.I hope he takes his time in dismantling Kang before going in for the kill.
by Dirty_Sanchez on Nov 12, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions
I know I’m nearly alone on this but, I like Bisping. Sure he talks a bit too much, but you have to hype yourself up in this sport mentally.
And you can’t argue with his logic on this, of course I hope he steps up his game from here and starts finishing and showing superior skills in his fights. Otherwise ya, talk becomes weightless.
by syncro on Nov 12, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Bisping has always been a jab and run fighter. Hard to imagine he’s gonna stay in the pocket and finish a fight after almost getting his head knocked clean off.
Downhill for Bisping.
by OJR is King (formerly introvert) on Nov 12, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Bisping has had three “jab and run” fights out of 20
hamil
Leben
Hendo
people need to remember his other 17 fights..
Just sayin’
I’ll agree that heavy hitters are his kryptonite though
by Confused on Nov 12, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
So, any time he fights someone with any talent he jabs and runs…..’nuff said.
by OJR is King (formerly introvert) on Nov 12, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
yeh Hamil and Leben are awesome
He has been trained like an amature boxer for the past year and that has alot to do with the wolfslair.
The sooner he gets away from them the better he will be
by Confused on Nov 12, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I agree about Wolfslair being something that is holding Bisping back. Look at the gameplanning they’ve done for Bisping and Kongo…it’s pathetic. Both of these guys came into their last fights vastly underprepared to handle the obvious strengths of their opponents.
by Buster Bluth on Nov 12, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Wolfslair isn’t good enough for top fighters, you don’t get the grappling training that you need, their strategies are poor and there aren’t enough good fighters. Paul Kelly is hardly a training partner that will help guys like Bisping and Kongo improve while the less said about the 2 Wolfslair fighters from TUF 9 the better.
Bisping fears powerful punchers, that’s why he hit and ran against Hamill, Leben and Hendo. Whilst none of them are great technical strikers, all 3 have powerful strikes and good chins, so Bisping was never going to be able to stop any of them and in the case of Hendo and Hamill was never going to be able to take them down either. He only finishes in flurries, like he did against Captain Miserable, Day, Elvis and Red, he can’t finish with one strike and against a superior striker like Kang he’s not going to get the chance to hit with several knees and punches.
Kang is the better all round fighter and looks as focused as I’ve ever seen him, he usually gets beat by getting sloppy in his takedowns or striking and getting caught. With Bisping’s lack of power, suspect chin (after the Hendo KO it won’t ever be the same, look at Wandi post Cro Cop for evidence in chin deterioration), poor offensive wrestling and little BJJ he won’t be in danger of getting stopped, so I have Kang all the way in this fight.
by David W-S on Nov 12, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Nice post David…you don’t need a big name camp to be successful…see Brock…but you do need a camp that can help you get to the next level in your training. Kongo’s biggest falw is his takedown defense…so why is he wasting his time at Wolfslair where their grappling is a weak point? He should go to team Jackson where they have guys like Rashad and Carwin that could help him out with that or even AKA where they are all solid wrestlers and Cain could help him out and vice versa or even Couture’s gym…anything at this point would be better for him than the lackluster training at Wolfslair.
Bisping needs to get better training partners and some better strategy for his fights because he’s becoming more and more predictable. Bisping is a solid athlete and would probably be a pretty decent grappler with some solid training. I like that he is concentrating more on strength this time around rather than cardio but what he really needs to work on is diversifying his arsenal. He rarely throws many kicks and doesn’t do it very effectively either from the fights that I’ve seen. Look at how Forrest has evolved from a brawler to a more calculating striker with more weapons than flying fists of fury.
by Buster Bluth on Nov 12, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
He has talked so much, he needs to get starched a few more times to even it out.
by the Slovak on Nov 12, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I like Bisping more now then before the KO. Sometimes a fighter needs to be reminded they are human and can and will lose. Bisping seems….hungrier now. I hope he takes his time in dismantling Kang before going in for the kill.
by The Sanchez that is Dirty! on Nov 12, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions
kang will destroy bisping, he is an overated loudmouth, simmilar to stinky finger
by daz on Nov 12, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe I would like Bisping less if I had actually watched him coaching TUF, but I didn’t, so he’s still all right with me. In fact, I think he gets this to the ground and wins by RNC.
by PW on Nov 12, 2009 10:14 AM EST reply actions
somebody needs to tell him he lost to Hammill…
by denniskuderjr on Nov 12, 2009 10:27 AM EST reply actions
Exactly…oh yeah and tell him he beat Evans…kinda works both ways there, he won a dicision that he should not have and he lost a decision he should not have..
by jet99 on Nov 12, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
oh my god get a life dennis and u other haters
by charlie on Nov 12, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Hammill beat him down…..not hate….just truth.
by OJR is King (formerly introvert) on Nov 12, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
somebody needs to tell you he beat hammil go look at the ufc results and i wondered how long hammil got brought up on this thread lol it was ages ago get over it im sure hammil has
by boyer on Nov 12, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions
I don’t see why everyone hates the guy so much, he doesn’t even talk THAT much trash compared to some fighters..and it’s part of the sport, every interview i’ve seen lately he comes off well
that and he IS a good fighter, in fact i think he probably should’ve took the W vs evans
by Sawn on Nov 12, 2009 10:42 AM EST reply actions
he comes off well because hendo shut him, for now. Can you imagine how much more this low class hoodlum would talk crap if he had won the fight? thank God he didn’t.
by Alex on Nov 12, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I never thought he was finished. I always thought he was mediocre.
by Jonny on Nov 12, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions
I think and hope the fight should be interesting. They both have a lot to prove to us and themselves on this one.
I think we will see new game plans from both of them but I do predict a somewhat reinvented Bisping.
I think a lot of the dislike of Bisping stems from the US vs UK and some of you need to get over it. You guys are advocates for a lot less talented fighters than Bisping at times. And despite a few grinds for fights he has been a very active fighter and brought a good game.
I agree heavy hands are his kryptonite but that also proves he not running away from exchanges.
by Syncro on Nov 12, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions
american judge’s gave it bisping
he was robbed in evans fight i believe because of his hammil fight
uk vs usa was not bisping idea
there are tons of american fighters worse like chris leben who decided to take steroids in the bisping fight and still lost but american fans still love leben. Bisping hasn’t done shit so stop hating
by puss E lover on Nov 12, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions
Bisping wins this by unanimous decision. Kang has looked terrible since entering the UFC. You guys underestimate Bisping. Do you think Bisping would have gotten choked out by Alan “no talent” Belcher? Hell no. Do you think Kang would take Rashad Evans to a split decision? Hell no, he’d get smashed by Evans.
by Josh H. on Nov 12, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions
My money is on if Bisping wins, no matter how he does it, nobody will give him credit for the win but say that Kang choked.
by My wife can't wrestle but you should see her box on Nov 12, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions
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