glad i am not alone, goodness, did shields through ANY punches???? I thought the whole time, if he is fighthing at 185, just think what A Silva would do to this guy!!!!!!!!!!!

hell, let BJ go to 170 again, and beat the sh*t out of shields.

After that fight, Shields is in my Bisping camp, i’ll watch their fights, just for the chance they get starched.

Jake ‘performed’ just as I thought he would. He is a 2nd rate fighter who isn’t bad but is no where near the top 5ww’s in the UFC.

You said it, Slovak, Sheilds + Bisping. Imagine if those two fought?

if shields and bisping fought, heck, they’d probably give each other a kiss before the fight started, agreed to let bisping do his pitty pat dance of his, then fall on the ground and let Jake jump on him and give him a hug for 3 rounds.

I know I don’t know a lot about mma, and may be out of line, but damn that fight was boring for Shields, Miller had a ton more energy and just looked like he wanted to fight more, and Shields wanted to survive.

just my dumb opinion.

I’d rather watch “Can” Le, the actor, fight than watch Jake “The Bed (Blanket body, pillow hands)” Sheilds fight any day.

I’m starting to not like this guy. Wait! Never did.

Big Balls. The BJJ guy who was 10 seconds from getting choked out. He was never really close to finishing Miller but almost got himself finshed a couple of times. I hope that he does fight Le and Le smashes his face.

Who, they can’t be much oxygen in that gym with all the giant heads walking around sucking it in.

I wonder, out of the Diaz bros and Shields, if only 2 of them are allowed in the same room at a time? You know, out of fears for the other students.

Shields performed well last night, of course he didn’t want to strike with Mayhem that would have been stupid. He controlled the fight, improved his position and looked for the submission, that fight was a grappling clinic so balls to those who bash a fight because there wasn’t much striking, this is MMA not K-1 when you have a fight between two grapplers it’s going to be a ground based fight.

As for Cung Le he is pathetic, he never defended his title then took a fight after vacating the belt. I hope Smith smashes his face so badly that he no longer has film friendly looks. Shields would take Le down and submit him, just like Shamrock would have done if he fought smart.

in my mind shields lost that fight. he was saved by the bell and was def going out. had he come close to putting mayhem in danger at any point in the fight i’d say ok, he won a decision, but I can’t take him seriously as a “champion” after that performance. This guy has really been calling out GSP? you’ve got to be kidding me.

shields is the most worthless piece of garbage fighter ever to exist…he is nothing but a butt sex crazed gay glorified porn star…completely worthless….he has NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER beaten a top 10 fighter in any weight class and hes had like 30 fights.;..

he is the highest ranked fighter to have never beaten a top ranked fighter…he is pathetic…he has NEVER beaten a top ranked fighter….EVER…

i cant WAIT till dan henderson comes in and decides he wants to fight to fight shields at 185 i cant WAIT for that fight…i cant wait to see shields try to gay butt sex dan henderson…

dan henderson will be the first top ranked guy he has EVER faced and we’ll truly see how much of a joke shields is….

lets see him try to hold an olympic calibur wrestler like hendo down for 25 minutes…and try to keep his face from being dislodged from his shoulders….

i want to see him hold hendo down and ride him for 25 minutes…shields is a joke who has never faced anyone remotely highly ranked

bro, he couldn’t hold Miller down, Hendo will ass rape him and gnp him out before he knows what hit him. He’s calling all these guys out, yet he can’t even beat the other guy at 185 in his camp (nick would kill him)! I gained respect for Miller and lost all the love I had for Jake!

It wouldn’t have been a big deal if Shields actively tried to finish the fight. All he did was hug. If he’s such a world class fighter, he should show it, it’s like he only saves his striking for the bullies lol.

David W-S…..shamrock didnt even get close to getting a takedown against cung le…cung le blocked the shot all fight long and I really think shamrock had no chance of taking him down

JG, Shamrock never even tried. He admitted that he wanted to kickbox to make it exciting. Horrendous strategy. Shields is a much better grappler than Shamrock is now anyway.

Shields did try to finish the fight, he went for submissions and got dominant position. He had to be careful as Mayhem was looking to reverse all of the time, that’s how he ended up in the RNC. You can’t win a 5 round fight for one good submission attempt if you are constantly taken down and your opponent gets into a dominant position.

David, usually you have some logical posts, but wow you missed the boat on this one!

1) Controlled the fight? Yeah I guess hugging another guy against the fence the whole fight IS control.

2) Shields tried to improve his position? When? Did you watch the fight or fall asleep like the rest of us?

3) Grappling clinic? If there was any grappling going on I would agree. Shields and I both sat and did nothing for that whole match.

I enjoy all MMA fights for what they are, striking, grappling, whatever, so don’t paint me with the same brush. But to come on here and defend a pathetic performance by Shields is absured.

shields is like clay guida without the energetic dry humping. he just layed on top like a dead fish. at least the cave man humps a little, but shields was just laying there.

not saying miller won, sheilds did win that fight by the rules for sure, just am never impressed with that kinda of fight.

The difference is Guida gets the takedown, stays in full guard, and humps the other guy toward the cage to create the illusion of being busy. Shields was constantly transitioning to half-guard, side control, back mount, etc. I agree he punches like a little girl and would like to have seen him do more with the positions he had, but I didn’t find the fight boring at all, and I hate LnP as much as anyone.

people let there hate cloud there judgment….shield definetly won that decision….dont listen to people saying other wise

It’s Miller’s own fault, no wrestling, and he constantly tried to clinch with Sheilds.

It was embarrassing for Miller especially seeing how he had Mo Lawal, Daniel Cormier, and Fabricio Werdum to train with during camp. I would think some wrestling would sink in from two olympic caliber wrestlers?

Shields did not do anything to justify himself as the champion, belt should have been left vacant. He didn’t even fight

Shields looked great, nothing wrong with the decision. Just the typical post-fight posters who come onto blogs just to bash fighters. Jake outgrappled Mayhem, though almost got caught in the third. I agree with John, it was more due to Jake getting sloppy rather than Miller’s skill but he made up for it in the championship rounds and lasted the pace of the fight. Nothing wrong with that decision at all, don’t make presumptions if you haven’t seen the fight.

I think Shields definately won the decision, due mostly to the fact that Miller was making mistake after mistake. He did nothing to stop Shields from taking mount at will, and would only spin so that Shields could take his back, this on top f the fact that he seemed to hae no wrestling. On the other hand, the ref was pissing me off, Shields was grabbing the cage, Miller’s shorts, and punching him in the back of the head the entire fight.

Y would you guys want to waste Hendo’s time on a islly fight like that?

the Mega fight involving Hendo is at LHW against MOusasi.

Hendo doesnt even like cutting down to 165 lbs.

tO the fans who hate sgeiulds and want to see him win, NO worries you guys wont have to wait too k`ong…He is on a crash course to get dominated by Jacre. Have a little patience!

I want Hendo to go to SF take both belts and retire.

or go do some movies, then retire with the belt.

he wont beat mOusasi

You’re hopefully right John. But he didn’t look as dominant as he should have last night. I want him to stop being so calm and go get it. He is awesome, but I want more still. I hate Hendo, but after last night with Soko taking Mousasi down I think Hendo would grind a win out of him. Plus I just want SF to die now, since they are in bed with M1 and WAMMA.

yes he would man…..sokojdu woulda won if he had a gas tank atall……..and hendo would smoke gegard I think…..and john whats with sayin hendo doesnt like cutting to 165……..its 185 not 165…..hes no dayum welterweight

look guys stop giving Mousasi crap for the Soko fight if Soko is anything he’s incredibly powerful and explosive in the 1st round. When has anyone ever dominated him in the 1st? Gegard did what he needed to and waited out the early storm.

JG that was a typo, I’m sure. John knows there is no 165 pound weight class. Soko wasn’t winning that fight and he didn’t gas.

people who have beat up sokodju in the first round= luiz cane, machida, babalu and my personal favorite golver texeria’s huge KO of him in just over a min into the fight

I’m pretty sure they told Mousasi not to end the fight in the first round , I swear.

Soku actually gave Machida some trouble in the first round of their fight. Not a lot of trouble, but the most trouble Machida’s had in the UFC before Shogun (and Tito’s near triangle).

It didn’t seem as if Mousasi COULDN’T put Soku away easily in the first round, it seemed that he couldn’t be bothered. He takes Fedor’s infamous calmness and pushes it further — it looked like he was half asleep out there.

Soko is very explosive and his judo throws/takedowns looked pretty good last night. I cant see dan getting tossed around like that though. True, little damage if any came from those throws, but it makes me think dan would be to much for him on the ground.

too much for mousasi i mean

Listen, anyone who isnt impressed with what mousasi and Fedor did last night are just ultra-critical haters. Being top fighters doesnt mean you destroy everyone they put in front of you in 1 minute and a half. and if Haters want to bash guys like Soko and Grim its just pathetic. Both are worthy opponents and very tough guys in certain aspects of mma. They just arent WELL ROUNDED like the Fedor’s and Gegards’s of the world. Sokoudjou is a very tough opponent, especially in the 1st round! Its just that we are too critical of him because he was hyped up way too fast after shocking the world ko’ing rogerio and arona. The guy is really young with not a lot of experience. THose fights with Nog and arona werent wars..they were quick ko’s. He has good and powerful hands, and some of the Nastiest kicks in the division. His egs are so strong that it gives him a great base and he knows how to use it because of his Judo, so when Gegard would take him down he was able to land on top. Its not like he was taking gegard down. There wont be too many people that can land on top of MOusasi the way soko did last night. Dont think Hendo can at all! Wrestling had nothing to do wiwth last nights fights. They were both attempting Sambo and Judo throws…thats snot Hendo’s world…so you cant automatically assume that Hendo wil be on top Gegard when they hit the ground the way Soko was.

Gegeard was awesome. He got some ring time and like Fedor he fought the perfect strategy. You have to be patient with guys like Grim and Soko and weather the early storm. its not that Gegard wasnt dominant because he was for the most part. He was following the game plan and being patient. Mousasi is turning into an Elite fighter and he will only improve. He now has Fedor’s demeanor, mental fortitude, gameplan execution,patience, calm, he is even holding his hands like Fedor and implementing Sambo throws. Same, ruthless Ground n pound. Watching Mousasi is a amazing. Its like a MOnster growing before your eyes!

just cause he didnt beat Soko in under a minute, iit doesnt change the fact that it was a masterful performance.

who ever just said sokodju didnt gas needs to watch the fight again

listen, anyone that thinks anything John H or JG says may be logical or correct is a moron.

John G and JG are morons

Fedor and Gegard proved once again why they’re the best 2 fighters outside of Zuffa, Shields proved why he’s the third best. All 3 were in trouble, dug deep and got the win. It baffles me that people still find something to complain about these 3 great fighters.

Hendo is probabaly too big for Jake, but Mousasi should beat him as he’s a more well rounded fighter. Hendo can’t last the pace for 5 rounds, look how tired he was against Rampage, Andy and Franklin. Palhares is good on the ground but doesn’t have great striking, Bisping came in too skinny and ran into Hendo’s overhand right. Hendo will gas against Gegard then get submitted.

I agree with u JG, Sokodju gased, that was obvious to me, he hit a wall immediately and couldn’t regain his breath.

are you kidding me he definatly was laying there he sucks he lost that fight he wasn’t agressive he didn’t do anything to hurt miller or even make him tap shields is garbage people need to get off his dick

man he was lay and praying, sure he would advance position put it took him 4 rounds to start working to try and damage him…..at one point for 3 mins of the start of the one round shield got the TD and he went from locking up 2 legs in between his and all he did for 3 mins was not throw 1 punch atall and transition from having 1 leg in between his legs to having 2 legs locked up while he hugs millers chest …….big john shoulda stood them up 2 mins erlier…..shields definetly won the fight…but he did nothing 2 impress me other then holding his breathe

Agree JG. That round was annoying. They should have been stood up at least 5 or 6 more times than they were.

Can’t stand stand-ups anyway, but stop letting your dislike of Shields cloud your judgement. He was constantly looking to improve his position, Miller was a difficult opponent (better than I gave him credit for) but Jake did his job, took Miller’s back a few times, mounted him and attempted submissions. Lay and pray/clay and gray means staying in your opponents guard, holding and not doing anything, at least Shields was looking to finish the fight, he had to be cautious in case Mayhem swept him and got the dominant position, which is what happened a couple of times in the fight and almost gave Miller the win in the third.

David I think I finally disagree with you on something. Shields was never close to or trying to end this fight. He was in a dominant and I mean DOMINANT position for 90 percent of this fight and never tried to make Miller tap or go to sleep. I agree he was getting better positions after a minute of resting, but he let go of every sub and through no power shots on top. I have never in my life seen a guy get mount 8 times in a minute and not land a single shot. The first 3 minutes of the third round(maybe the second or fourth, I can’t remember which round it was) was Shields sitting on Millers legs not moving. He was trying to improve his position or land a strike. He is a mediocre to weak wrestler with over rated Jitz. He would be 15-20 in the UFC WW division.

Jay, I think you’re underestimating Shields’ skills. Last night he did get dominant position a few times and he was going for submissions but Mayhem as annoying as he is, is tough to submit and if you get sloppy he’ll reverse you which is what happens at the end of rounds 1-3 and almost cost Jake the fight. His striking is poor but he still fought smart and played to his strengths in wrestling and BJJ to get a dominant position, try to submit his opponent, but remain in control. Don’t forget he’s not a natural 185lb fighter so to beat a bigger, stronger guy has to earn him some credit. He’d easily be top 10 in the UFC, remember that he submitted Semtex in his last fight at WW so he can’t be as bad as you claim he is.

actually 8

just because he won 8 in a row by stoppage doesn mean he didnt lay and pray against miller

really frosnt? I wasn’t aware of that fact. I guess I don’t know how to use sherdog. oh wait, I do and you’re still wrong.

you fail frosnt. you should kill yourself moron.

In the UFC he is going to get schooled. At 170#‘s what is he going to do against better wrestlers like Fitch or Kos? I would also like to see him against a power house like Brock Larson who is a beast and has good jits. Rumble would be great to. Him and Condit would be a good fight to. Carlos has good take down defense, great jits, and would eat him up in the stand up game. Paulo Thiago and Dustin HAzlette would also be a great match ups for him.
Then if you go to 185# there is Nate who would kill him on the way in for the takedown, Palhares-Maia-Almeida-Gouveia with really good to amazing jits. Alan Belcher super well rounded. Chael Sonnen, Jake Rosholt, Yushin Okami, Dan Miller, would all be tough fights for him. I don’t think he would be anywhere near as succesful in the UFC. Shields did win last night but it was less then stellar performance and the only time either fighter was in real trouble was when Shields was about 10 seconds from saying goodnight. The fact that he has the standup of an armless boxer will leave him exposed and I think brutalized in the UFC.

cung lee isnt scared or fighting sheilds…….they even said hes only coming back because a movie he was supost to be working on soon , the production got moved back so hes gunna fight untill its on again…..i hate cung le but 2 say hes scared is just ignorant and dumb

Spot on Dude, the bashing of Shields is pissing me off, so at least someone on this post is giving Jake credit for a good win and an entertaining ground fight. In my opinion Jake will be a tough test for anyone in the UFC, as he is an excellent grappler and mixes up wrestling and BJJ perfectly. He needs to improve his striking but he has a great future and I bet he’d be getting a lot more respect if he was a UFC fighter.

Cung Le sucks, he’s a one dimensional striker with only good win, over a past his prime Frank Shamrock who decided to kickbox with Le instead of going for the takedown. As soon as Le faces a superior grappler like Shields, Jacare or Mayhem he will lose.

I think people would be saying the same thing if he was a UFC Fighter.

Shields is a good fighter, but last night he didn’t do much to earn the strap. He dominated the fight, but never attempted to finish, if that fight was in Japan he would have likely lost.

If I was Shields, I’d be apologetic and embarrassed about that showing, but instead we have Shields running his mouth hours later like we went in there and straight ended that fight, reminds me of Tim Sylvia when he was champion.

That’s why people are bashing him.

Miller isn’t even a top 10 middleweight in the world, and shield struggled with him. This does not bold well for shield’s future in that weight class. If Strikeforce landed Dan Henderson, Shields will kiss his title goodbye.
Forget Henderson, Jacare may do the deed if he puts up that performance again.

Jake Shields in the UFC will become an obscurity much like Carlos Conduit. Forget GSP, I doubt he can give Fitch, Alves, or Swick much of a fight. Hell have BJ or Sanchez move up to 170 and kick his ass for a crack at the welterweight title. At middleweight, just serve him up to Bisping to rebuild his overrated ranking.

Shields will be in no man’s land in the UFC, hell he drops two straight and they might just cut his ass.

From David W-S

‘’In my opinion Jake will be a tough test for anyone in the UFC, as he is an excellent grappler and mixes up wrestling and BJJ perfectly’’. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

That’s the funniest thing I’ve read on this thread yet. Shields is gradually being exposed as a one trick pony. If he ever makes it to the UFC (I personally think he’s ducking the competition, because he could have signed when Elite XC folded… said so himself) he will get owned by the WW division. He better not even think of going to MW in the UFC. That would be like signing his own death warrant.

liukangstoupee I agree. Though I think he might give Bisping challenge. Miller is better on the ground then Bisping.

Also it’s “this does not ‘bode’ well.” not ‘bold’.
I’m not being an English Nazi, I just thought I’d let you know. I hate it when I use the wrong word forever and no one corrects me.

George-Shields makes less sense than Andy-Shields. George does the same things as Shields, only 1000 times better. At least Shields would have a wrestling advantage on Silva. GSP-Shields would look a lot like GSP-Serra2. Shields is in the bottom half of WW’s if he joined the UFC.

Its not like he mounted him a bunch of times either. That wouldn’t imply control or anything.

yet shields has absolutely horrible striking skills. Anyone with decent takedown defense can just spend a couple weeks defending his takedown and that will be all they need to eliminate Shield’s most potent offense. GSP, ALves, Fitch, and Swick will easily clean his clock, and at Welterweight anyone ranked under Maia will wreck him.

Hell, I can play Joe Silva and book some interesting matches for Shield, both of which I think Shields will lose.

Shields vs Sonnen: Sonnen by UD keeping shields on his feet and punishing him when he attempts to go for a takedown.

Shields vs Swick: see above as with Sonnen.

Face facts, Mayhem was brought in to give Shields some credibility with his name, throw a well rounded fight in front of Shields and watch him crumble.

I posted the same thing up top as well Liukang…I went a little further as well saying he would have trouble with the likes of a Goveia, Palharse(sp?), Alan Belcher, paulo thiago, Carlos Condit,Almedia and so forth. Chael, Fitch, and Kos are worlds ahead of him in the wrestling game. He would never pull that single leg off over and over against those guys.

I actually am a huge JAke Shields fan, have been for the last several years. ALso Like Mayhem alot. For all his personality flaws he makes for great fights. I really think JAke would need a lot more seasoning before coming to the UFC or he would slowly have to make his way through the smaller good wrestlers like JAke Rosholt and those types. HEavy hands and great take down defense.