Yeah! Brutal Huntington Beach bad boy style! I’m sure there will be blood! As long as he can shoot and take him down, Forrest will be punished for his sins!

Spot on

Lol I can’t believe you said a “TheDragon” comment was spot on. Anyone who thought that fight was supposed to be a war is delusional totally handpicked fight to build back up AS.

I don’t disagree that it was hand picked to be more exciting fight then Silva’s previous fights. But Forrest is a gamer and was willing to fight and strike and at that time people were doubting Silva ability (because everyone jumped on his back especially on this site). So it was a good test for Silva, its only in heinsight does everyone say this about the Forrest Vs silva fight.

Agree with Dixon and TheDragon.

Actually I said from the very beginning that this fight was tailor-made for AS to get an easy KO, long before the fight took place.

Me too. I was pissed as soon as they announced that Forrest would fight AS, cause I knew it was exactly what Sawn said. Forrest was being fed to Dana’s pet spider who was getting BOOd for his boring performances. They knew Forrest would stand right in front of Silva and be his punching bag. No disrespect to Forrest who fights with tons of heart and had guts for taking the fight, but what does he have in his arsenal that’s a threat to Silva? He’s got no KO power and uses the same tools as Silva, but at half the speed and accuracy. It was a hand-picked “gimme” fight for Silva to make him look spectacular against a fan-favorite with the balls to take it, and I said so the day the matchup was announced.

Andy-Forrest was classic, he’s a class above everyone he’s fought so far. Andy is the man, if you attack him he counters and KOs you, if you don’t do anything then he picks you apart and fools around, showing how crap his opponent is. I’ll never get bored of seeing that fight and Forrest’s reaction after losing makes that fight even sweeter to watch.

bingo!

having 2 b-level at best fighters with zero potential to improve and move up the ladder fighters in a main event is pathetic for a UFC ppv! I understand injuries happen in this sport, but if you cant provide a quality main event, then you stop being Focking Greedy and you air it on spike! The UFC doesnt need to make zillions off of every single ppv. Treat the fans that helped build this sport from 44 million in debt with respect and Tito/Forrest for $45 is a slap in the face. I dont care how good the card is, if you cant provide a quality main event, then dont charge $45!\

I refuse to even watch videos involving these two bums!

john I agree, one thing I don’t like is to be conned and this fight is not worth the money but at the same time, you can’t break contracts with cable companies and not produce a PPV when you have a contract, its not that simple

If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. I know I’m not.

A wrod to the wise Forrest, beware the “pound and pound, and poundage” ortiz will bring. Tito is so full of shit

Jay: mmacrazed.com

I say Tito takes this. Has more to prove and earn.

John, I like it. I don’t see your name on it though. Just Garret and Dan. I like that it isn’t PC. You can do and say whatever you want. I will add it into my MMA site shuffle.

So is his Rambo-esque “out for blood” headline.

Truth

Tito may have stayed in the cage… and wept.

Tito cried his way out of the arena after his last Liddell fight. He lives in an alternate reality. He just says stuff to sound cool without any real ownership of what he is saying.

KILL HIM FOREST…or at least kill his “comeback”.

Agreed, Fat Kick. After all the years he ducked Chuck, there’s no way in Hell Tito would step in the cage with the Spider! I hope Forrest gets the W this time that he should’ve gotten last time. But I think everyone is underestimating both of these guys. They’re not TOP 3 anymore, but I think they’re both great fighters and beating either of them is a serious feather in anyone’s cap.

well said OJR

I have never seen anybody get KTFO with a jab while the puncher is walking backwards. In my book the is giving up. And I have always been a huge and outspoken Forrest fan.

And I’m not trying to discount Anderson’s win because Forrest did get handled.

I won’t dump on Griffin for his performance. He lost to a champion. No shame in that.

A. Silva = Neo

Cool points for the Matrix reference.

Forrest was pretty much out on his feet from the other barrages of punches he took when that last punch put him away.

OJR is dead right. Forrest absolutely did NOT give up. And BNF, if you wanna see other guys get knocked out by a backing-up jab, just watch Chuck’s old fights. Contrary to conventional wisdom, it isn’t the power of the shot that KO’s you, it’s not seeing it coming. That’s why Chuck could KO people all day long with his goofy awkward looking fade-away punches. Forrest was getting hit with sniper-shots from behind the trees. He did his best but was like Chris Tucker in RUSH HOUR.

“Which one o’ yall kicked me?!?”

Andy > Neo. Don’t forget Neo died in the end, Andy’s going to retire undefeated.

shonuff LOL, I still love that movie. David, Andy isn’t undefeated unless you mean in the UFC?

probobly the dumbest comment on this thread… the amount of work and training that goes into these fights is ridiculous.. if your sick.. especially with mono like they say brock has you can be off for 6 months. No one in there right mind would do roids… they can be tested at anytime anyway.

Wow a lot of illiterates on here. Thanks for the genius insight TEX MEX & mike.

Idiots, I was pretty damn FUCKIN clear that it was just a thought. In fact I dedicated a paragraph to that exact cause. And if you think none of these guys use, tell it to the guys that got caught. Maybe watch some of the sport before going around saying that NONE use.

It was a thought not a confirmation. & if that’s the worst thread you’ve ever read you fucking trolls then congrats on learning to read & my post being ur 1st thing u could put together.

Now type a well thought out 2 or 3 word rebuttal and run along, low lifes.

As for ppl who matter on this site:

John g, & jay:

Like I said, I have no great knowledge about roids, & have never given it a 2nd thought til now. Not just cause of Brock, but because of the long list of sudden injuries. I too believe its probs just hard training to succeed in a league that advancing quickly, but I unno about all these guys and it would explain a lot.

Its not like roids are new to the sport, or any sport for that manner. Ya its disappointing & hopefully not true, but I’m not 100% ruling it out just cause.

There’s 2 sides to everything & I just don’t like to close my eyes to any topic. I’m here to learn. And I wouldn’t mind a damned update from Brock himself on here either.

Daniel, people got to stop saying peoples opinions don’t matter. Everyone is a fan in here.

lol I said what I said because you think your an authority..“hes far to big a fit to be out that long”… maybe take grade 1 biology and learn about illnesses.

Jay: I never got that impression, what gives you that Idea, I think the roids thing makes more sense…not that ur wrong

get a clue. He is sick. He lives in Focking Minnesota where its freezing!

Cant a man be sick, without conspiricy theories? Brock loves fighting. He wants to fight more then the UFC even allows him. The man is sick. PERIOD! Nothing to talk about! Do you people really need some sort of contreversy to get through your days?

He just seems to be his way of doing things. Jump from one profession to another. Think about it, he makes say 2 million a fight tops. He was probably making 400,000 a night in the WWE. I read the Rock Biography a couple weeks ago and he said he was making a million for doing Wrestlemania. Why fight for real when you can fake fight for more money? Like I said I hope I am wrong and I probably am, but something just seems wrong about this and I refuse to believe it is steroids.

john, it is a lot warmer in Minnesota than it is here today.

dam right…-6 last night jay…supposed to be up to 13-15 again on weekend…maybe get one more round of golf in

I posted this in another thread.

Maybe you guys may have an answer for my question….

I find it interested that every UFC ‘nugger on the planet accuses Alistair Overeem of ‘roiding every time his name is mentioned, but as soon as someone mentions Lesnar’s name (or any other UFC fighter for that matter) the same people calling Alistair out defend Lesnar.

Why the double standard?

It would be just as easy to cycle off of ‘roids while competing in the US, as it would be to use ‘roids in Japan. The freakin’ tests in the US are a joke. THE FIGHTERS KNOW EXACTLY WHEN AND WHERE THEY ARE GETTING TESTED!!!!!! You would have to be a complete idiot to get caught.

And with that said….at least Alistair is fighting…unlike Crock.

I know that if I were a big Brock fan, and purchased tickets to go to this event…I’d be pretty pissed about the fact that I spent my hard earned money to see him fight and he pulls out without one single word from him directly, the UFC, or any medical people involved in his diagnosis. All you get is some rumours and some PR from his agent…you get nothing out of his or the UFC’s mouth to clear this issue up.

Like I said…if I were a fan and bought tickets…I’d be livid about the lack of respect from Brock and the UFC regarding this issue.

Shouldn’t you fans demand better?

Statement from Brock: I sincerely apologize for not personally calling you, Introvert, a complete stranger, and tens of thousands of other complete strangers, to explain that I contracted a serious illness that typically takes 2-3 months to recover from, thus lowering your already-dim view of the UFC.

Happy now?

Considering how much money we pump into the UFC I think a statement by someone would nice

Intro: I am livid that I am going to have to wait to see one of my favorite fighters fight. I say that Lesnar/Carwin was going to be a cake walk for Brock, but the truth is that is going to be a very close fight. I could see either guy winning. I am suspicious of the fact that no one has come out and given us a diagnosis about Brock’s health. Where is Brock? Why are we getting updates from Chris Tusherer(sp?) and not Brock? I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he is done. I think that Dana talking to him the way he did after 100 is not sitting well with him. He doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who likes being told to toe a line. The reason I get mad about people saying stuff about Lesnar and roids is because I don’t think he looks like a juicer. Overeem is continually getting bigger and Lesnar is continually getting flabbier. I, like Daniel above know very little about steroids, but Lesnar is a worker and has always been massive. Like I said I know nothing of steroids and refuse to believe no matter what that GSP or Brock are on roids. I don’t care if they both test positive 10 times, I won’t believe it.

And as far as your roids question goes, not that it matters anyway since your mind is made up and you refuse to accept the possibility that you don’t know everything, here goes: Overeem used to fight at 205 before suddenly packing on 50 pounds of muscle at an age when such muscle growth is highly unlikely. This, coupled with the fact that he fights in promotions that do not drug test, makes lots of people highly suspicious of him.

Lesnar, on the other hand, has always been a very large and very strong human being, due in part to a genetic predisposition for size and doing heavy farm work from a very young age. He was a HW wrestler in high school, a HW wrestler in junior college and a HW wrestler at the University of Minnesota. He weighed more in college than he does now. He has been tested repeatedly in JuCo, NCAA, allegedly in the WWE, in the NFL and now in UFC. He has never tested positive. Ever. Matt Hughes made a Hall of Fame career out of being bigger and stronger than everyone else in his weight class. GSP is doing the same thing now. Are they on roids too? So I say the same thing to you that I say to every nimrod who blindly accuses Brock of steroid use just for being big and strong: Produce some hard evidence or STFU.

Dana has said Brock is the sickest he’s ever been. Kenflo confirmed that he saw Lesnar sick and even Carwin said he doenn’t blame Lesnar for backing out. I’m generally a very healthy guy with a great immune system but I’ve had a flu-from-hell this year that made me miss almost 2 months of work, and my job isn’t even physically challenging. I would break into a cold sweat walking up a single flight of stairs and be sapped for the rest of the day. Germs can kick your ass, boys! Do we really want our fighters fighting with dead batteries? I for one have had enough of bullshit matches like Mir/Nog and am tired of hearing you couch potatoes tell fighters to “Man up” and fight injured or sick. I think the UFC shouldn’t let fighters fight sick or injured, because then we don’t get what we paid to see. Who cares if Mir can beat a comotose Nog or Belfort can beat a one-armed Silva? We have fights to see who’s the best and those questions are left unanswered when fighters fight sick or injured and it’s we, the fans, who get robbed.

shonuff, PW. Great posts!!!

Oooooh…the “STFU” post lol.

So basically you are saying Alistair does roids and Brock doesn’t based on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!!!!

“Brock has always been big”…“Alistair gained weight”….THAT IS NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING!!!!!!

Maybe Brock has always done roids….maybe Alistair has dieted like a mofo to stay at 205 and finally said ’I’m sick of cutting weight’.

You have no more on Alistair than I have on Brock…which is exactly why you are a hypocrite and you should…um how do you keyboard warrior douchebags say it?…STFU?

I am convinced that Brock did roids while in the WWE.

Now? I am not so sure. Google some images. Big difference in physique.

Overeem? Its obvious that he has done something unnatural with his body. Roids, HGH, etc.

Don’t you think that maybe, just maybe, you are backing up Brock on this issue because you are an MMA fan and always, at every turn, feel the need to defend your favourite sport and it’s athlete’s?

Brock was a collegiate wrestler when a needle could be pretty much stuck in your ass right on the field, ice, court, or wrestling mat.

Brock Lesnar was under the tutelage of Vince McMahon (a steroid user) for years…a guy who not only allowed his employees to roid up, but actually purchased and helped administer the drug to his wrestlers. This fact is too much to look passed…..Vince WANTED HIS FIGHTERS TO ROID UP TO LOOK AS BIG AS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!

Why do you keep saying that “Brock passed all of his tests”? I’ve stated a million times on here that when you now where and when all of your tests are, you’d have to be an idiot to get caught. Google “Steroid cycling” and see the thousands of hits you get explaining just how easy it is, and stop eluding to the fact he passed some tests….because it means nothing when he knows when the test is. You say you don’t know enough about steroids to talk about it, then….like I said …Google it, and familiarize yourself with the FACT that tests can be easily passed with “cycling off”.

Let’s just make it known that I am in no way stating that Alistair isn’t roiding. He may be. But, for those of you who are basing your accusations about him as “a matter of fact”, but then turning around on me and telling me I’m wrong about Brock…you are basically pointing your finger at me, but doing the same thing I’m doing.

We are both accusing without actual proof…that’s all I’m sayin’.

Reading comprehension skills, Intro. At what point did I say Overeem roided? I didn’t, I said packing on 50 pounds of solid muscle in his late 20s while not fighting anywhere with drug testing is suspicious. Typical Intro, anything that doesn’t fit into your pathetically narrow view of things must be derided, even after your weak arguments have been defeated. Maybe you should go apply to be the CSAC and NSAC. Not be on them, just be the actual commissions themselves, so that you and you alone can decide who’s on steroids based solely on your own preferences and complete lack of experience in the subject.

If I were on NSAC or CSAC I’d you could be rest assured that I’d be instituting random testing, and just like Football and Baseball….there’d be 100’s of MMA fighters either losing a lot of wieght or getting suspended.

Have you not considered the fact that Alistair may have been cutting a lot of weight to get to 205 and decided he didn’t want to anymore? Or is that impossible, because Alistair is not in the UFC?

Neither of those Commissions could perform random drug tests to anyone. There is no way of knowing who is going to be fighting in those states ahead of time. Random testing does sound great so that the Sherks and Overoids of the MMA world couldn’t cheat. But those commissions have no power to do that no matter who is running the show. Alistair was never bigger than a LHW. There is pictures of him growing up that I’ve seen (I’m sure you’ve seen them too), he was never big and losing weight or cutting to get to the division he was fighting in. He has grown almost daily, never shrinking.

He can’t be a douche and win fights? BJ is by far the biggest douche.

Bisping is the biggest d-bag. Not even close.

bj is the man, don’t hate BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ !!!!!!!!

Now where the fuck is Adam G?

Rashad Evans gets my vote for one of the biggest d-bags, and I cant wait to see hik ktfo again

He’s a mental midget. He always has been. He needs to grow the hell up. Look at Tito…he balled his eyes out when he knew Couture decisioned him…but, he still had the decency to perform his duties as a professional fighter even with the loss.

Mental midget-Very good.

I don’t agree i think we should realise that this is these guys bread and butter so a Loss has massive impact on them. So to lose a second fight on the trot, would mess your mind up.

We shouldn’t expect so much from these people they are fighters at the end of the day.

They aren’t people, they are fighters darn it! I don’t pay 50 bucks to watch people fight. I pay 50 dollars to watch fighters fight. They have no right to have feelings, time off, illness, injuries or personal lives.