Is Tito Ortiz looking past Forrest Griffin for a possible third crack at 'The Iceman'?

by Jesse Holland on Nov 4, 2009 10:00 AM EST Comment 59 comments

Quoteworthy:

"I know I’ve lost two matches. I still think I can beat him, and I still think that’s a big fight. I still want that fight. That would be awesome. I think if I call him out enough times I think he’ll be a man and step up. Why wouldn’t he? That’s a huge fight and a big payday for him. It will be good. I think we can see one more. Why not? I’m down. I’m always game. You know me, I’m not afraid to fight anyone, even though there was a picture that was painted a long time ago that wasn’t true. I’ve fought him twice already. I’m not afraid. He already proved he’s not my friend, so the hell with it. I’ve got nothing to lose. Lets make some money, and this time I’m going to kick his ass."

One time UFC light heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz is still hoping to one day avenge his two losses to fellow former headliner Chuck Liddell. "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" is coming off major spinal fusion surgery to correct a back problem that plagued him in his most recent bouts. His last appearance was in May 2008 — a unanimous decision loss to now 205-pound champion, Lyoto Machida. Does a UFC 106 win over Forrest Griffin propel him back into the title hunt? Or would any fans out there rather see him tangle with "The Iceman" for a third time instead?

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What about this idea fellas? Chuck/Tito 3 following Chuck/Tito coaching opposite on TUF?? Not bad eh? At least no titles will be held up…lol

by McArthur on Nov 4, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t mind at all. Can’t be worst than this season and it could be a huge fight. Tito could finally win and talk sh!t like never before.

by Alpha Male on Nov 4, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They both did well as coaches. And now that Chuck is permanently punch drunk from getting KTFO repeatedly Tito would have a shot in their fight.

by PW on Nov 4, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

OH for FOCKs sake Tito. Are you back or not? Why in the blue hell is he only interested in fights were he feels comfortable.

All the smalk talk in the world and Tito calls out Coleman, Forrest and Chuck.

I hope you meet Bahna real soon Tito. If your serious and your ready for a return to glory you better be prepared for Bones Jones, Bahna and even guys like Brian Stann and Steve Cantwell.

Hell give him the winner of Slice/Alexander for a change of pace.

by Big Zino on Nov 4, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

? I’m sorry but I’m not sure how any of you think Tito has a shot. Like Tito is going to come back better than before after taking a full year off. On top of that he’s going to be able to take Chuck down now all of a sudden? Tito has terrible stand up and couldn’t hold a light to Chuck in a punchers game. Kind of funny that Chuck gets ko’d a couple times and now you think anyone can beat the guy. Tito knows 100% that he’ll get the crap kicked out of him, he’s just looking for a pay day and he knows Dana will only let Chuck fight a high profile fight that is a sure win for Chuck.

by Cogito Ergo Sum on Nov 4, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s why the fight looks interesting to me. Chucky wouldn’t get ktfo with Tito’s stand up, plus Tito couldn’t use his wrestling to get the W. This would showed us if he’s really working to get better in other aspect of the game. A win over Forrest and over Chuck could justified his rematch with Machida or the #1 contender. For Chuck a W would give him his victory that he need for hanging the gloves for good or it could give him confidence to keep fighting for a while. And a defeat wouldn’t be as dramatic than being ko’d like before. I see this as a win/win situation for everyone.

by Alpha Male on Nov 4, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’d actually pay to see this fight… better then Chuck vs Randy yet again.

I have no qualms with older fighters taking fights for entertainment value as it makes them money and keeps title shots for the deserving.

by Arnold on Nov 4, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I see your point Alpha, but also see a downside. These guys are still big names even though I think most would agree their days of contending for titles are over. My fear would be that the winner of this potential fight would lobby for a high profile fight or even title shot. Undeserving as the winner would be, the UFC would cater to milk PPV buys, and we’d be treated to another grotesque mismatch in a main event, while more deserving fighters are passed over.

by CL on Nov 4, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Definitely a good TUF idea. Both were really good coaches on the show and the fight would be as good as any other fight either of them would be in now. That is if Chuck comes back.

by JayJay on Nov 4, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Griffin is gonna send Tito to the back of the line and the hammer is gonna send him packing. You heard it here first. Now can anyone guess what his excuse will be?

by NameNotRequired on Nov 4, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Only other rematch I wanna really see after the Forrest fight is a rematch with Rashad. Rashad’s a big draw these days especially after TUF. If they both win or both loose I think the match up makes sense. I’d love to see tito get ko’d again. Hope he looses to Forrest though, hate Tito. Questioning Chuck’s manhood after getting his ass handed to him twice. Reeeeeal classy Tito

by IrishKev on Nov 4, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I hope you are right NNR, but I really have no idea what to expect out of Griffin. Like him or not, Tito will come in highly motivated and ready to brawl. As for Forrest, that used to be his strong suit. After the Silva debacle, I’m wondering if Forrest has lost his desire, or if his head is right. I root for Forrest, but I haven’t liked what I’ve seen or heard coming from him for quite a while now. Both guys definitely have much they need to prove.

by CL on Nov 4, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Titi won’t stand a chance. Look at the picture. He seems afraid to engage as it is. I doubt that Chuck has lost any power in those hands…

by The Negation on Nov 4, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Disagree…I have no interest in this fight, as the 2 previous fights were not close and Chuck is not relevant anymore, why fight again becuase they hate each other again, although I like the idea of no implications of titles.

by Robert(1) on Nov 4, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Given that it’s TITO, I’m surprised he isn’t calling out Ken Shamrock for round 4!

by shonuff on Nov 4, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I TOTALLY AGREE!

Tito is just in the game to feed his ego. Look at his girlfriend…Look how he runs that mouth…Meh.

Shame on you UFC for bring back this mutton head.

by DubNub on Nov 4, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

At least Tito still comes to fight and pushes the pace.

by JayJay on Nov 4, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Tito lost the first fight from Chuck’s thumb in his eye…don’t believe me? watch it again, its obvious

by McArthur on Nov 4, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And he lost the second fight via butt raping. He was crushed both times.

by naturalshadow on Nov 5, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

nothing better than kicking a lion when’s he down eh

by ruanfiy on Nov 4, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Beating Chuck does somehow propel guys to title shots

by McArthur on Nov 4, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Except for jardine…poor guy lol

by SoCalStunNa on Nov 4, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

wasr tito!!!!!!!!

by Grok on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

You would have looked like a prick with that bullshit comment, but your so dumb you spell a three letter word wrong, what a thick shit, retard.

by Insain on Nov 4, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!!

by day1er on Nov 4, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

HEhehe! Fingers must be too fat…

by The Negation on Nov 4, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just pathetic…Tito now wants to fight a semi-retired and out of prime Liddell…not to mention that the first two fights were massacres. What a joke.

by Shayne on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

same thing bumpage did to Wand the 3rd fight

by d*locc on Nov 4, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, but Rampage had beaten up a lot of guys since his losses to Wandy and had even unified the UFC belt with Wandy’s old title. The timing made sense for him to avenge those losses. He wasn’t calling out a retiree from Dancing with the Stars.

by shonuff on Nov 4, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No point in it. Chuck already defeated Tito twice when it was relevant.

If they fought now and Tito won it wouldn’t do anything for Tito’s career, he’d just be beating on an old man way past his prime.

by Stu on Nov 4, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

It’s not like he hasn’t done that at least three times before.

by PW on Nov 4, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It would be all about the money. Why not? They are on the down side of their careers, trying to top up their retirement fund. Better than average fight, that would fit nicely on to any card.

by JayJay on Nov 4, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

pretty chicken shit calling chuck out now if his back is all healed and he thinks hes gonna make an impact why not call out someone who is relevant in the title picture instead of someone who has lost all but one of this last 5 fights so tito finally thinks he can beat him

by rylie on Nov 4, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

He is stepping up to fight Forrest. So you cannot say he is simply calling out and fighting has beens and bums. Forrest is still top ten even after a couple of crap fights. They aren’t going to give Tito a title shot right off the bat. Tito is simply trying to create some buzz and I’ll bet you that if Liddell does come back, he’ll be all over this money making fight.

by JayJay on Nov 4, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

screw that. Didnt hear tito calling out chuck after their last fight, but now that he sees that chuck is on his way out he thinks this is the time to beat him? Come on tito, why not call out Shogun, or a Machida rematch? Oh, wait, because you’ll get your ass handed to you worse than what your wife does to you in bed!

by tylerS on Nov 4, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Would Shogun or Machida agree to fight Tito? Exactly. He is simply trying to call out a guy that will help him make the most money. He would definitely fight Machida again or Shogun if it was an option and he could make some money.

by JayJay on Nov 4, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why wouldnt they accept a fight w/ tito? He is a huge draw. PPV numbers would be super high, therefore shogun or machida would stand to make huuuge money off of that fight!

All I’m saying is that Chuck SMASHED tito twice, but now that he is well past his prime and his reflexes are shot, NOW tito thinks he has a chance. It’s just lame if you ask me. There are so many other big name fighters who are relevant in the title picture! Come on tito, call out someone at the top, not a former champ!

by tylerS on Nov 4, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Chuck would beat Tito’s ass again. Lets see tha fight it will have to be better than the Shogun vs. Machidia fight was.

by War Machine on Nov 4, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

lmao tito looks like hes crying in that pic, maybe its just the fear of getting ktfo

by DanTheMan on Nov 4, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

wow man tito is really such a fag. why is he even tryin to call out chuck when he was the one making excuses to not fight him the first few times they did fight. and we all know what happened when they actually got together in the cage

by Rusty on Nov 4, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Dont do it Chuck, let Tito’s legacy be what it is, nothing!

by torresisawarrior on Nov 4, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

This is awesome!!! Would love to see it again…why not let tito fight the best out there,well chuck is no slouch wether hes older or not.att::dana make this happen! In all honesty would be a great undercard but not a main event….would sell like crazy if you have a title fight as the main card…what do you think MMA fans agree?

by Ortizzz...is back baby!!!!!! on Nov 4, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Agree 100%, if Chuck decides to come back.

by JayJay on Nov 4, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

clearly jayjay is a tito ’hugger and wants revenge on chuck now that he is DONE!

On a side note, cant wait to see forrest decision ortiz, and watch him fade into irrelevancy!!!!

by tylerS on Nov 4, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

How about he calls out machida to avenge his loss (lol)

oh wait yeh, he’d get annihilated

i get that these guys (chuck etc) love the sport, but enoughs enough at some point surely!? (RANDY)

by Sawn on Nov 4, 2009 2:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

it might have something to do with the fact that machida is the champion…he wont be getting a title shot for 2 years at least…if he keeps winning

by HellaHectic on Nov 4, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Go figure, now Tito wants to fight chuck………phhhhhh. You couldnt beat him in his prime and now that he is past it you start talknig again. Tito is the biggest bitch in MMA!!!!

by Spyder on Nov 4, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

They are both past their prime. If Chuck cannot handle a fight with Ortiz, than he definitely should never come out of retirement.

by JayJay on Nov 4, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

“COMBINATIONS!… UPPERCUTS!”… “OHHHHHHH!” “AND DOWN GOES TITO ORTIZ”

by lemoore on Nov 4, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

YOUR TELLING ME IF TITO AND CHUCK WERE COACHES ON TUF AND THEN FOUGHT AT THE END OF IT NO ONE WOULD BE INTERSTED? I SURE AS HELL WOULD BE!

by JR on Nov 4, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

ppl always come on here talking shit about fighters even tho they themselves have probably never had a fight in there lives, if they had theyd respect all fighers, especially ex champions like tito ortiz, look at his record win or lose hes fought top notch competition. if it werent for “has beens” like tito, chuck, shamrock and randy there probably wouldnt be a ufc today. ufc took off at ufc 40 and has given the fighters of today a platform to perform on. so if there after some last pay days i say good look to them and i’ll tune in for sure.

by horndog on Nov 4, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think there’s a bunch of armchair quarterbacks who want to bag on someone’s career, but that fight absolutely makes sense to me. Dana would see a) an opponent whose number Chuck seems to have had the last two times, and b) an enormous payday for the UFC, and for his friend Chuck. Both fighters have been through a lot, and this fight would be a big payday for both of them in the twilight of their careers. I’d even bet that’s a fight that Chuck could really get up for.

by Matt from Houston on Nov 4, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Tito Burrito is washed up. Give him Bones Jones to get retired by!

by roberto on Nov 4, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think Tito wins if him and Chuck fight again. I honestly think Couture would beat Chuck if they fought again. Chuck is not the same fighter as he used to be.

by LJ on Nov 4, 2009 5:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Even a way past his prime Liddell will own Tito. Chuck just has his number and nothing is going to change that. It will end like every one of thier other fights. Tito backed up against the cage praying that Mazagatti stops it just a bit prematurely, so that he has somethig to blame the loss on. Chuck’s days of title contention are over, but he’ll still roll the huntington beach fagboy.

by BadVibes on Nov 4, 2009 6:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

the only rerason he wants chuck is because chuck has been looking terrible now, its just like josh barnett vs pedro rizzo the second time, avenging a lose in a unfair way//