UFC Quick Quote: Brock Lesnar still sick, return could be delayed until Feb. 6

"I’m not sure exactly what it is he has, mono or whatever, but I know that he was sick and couldn’t get a good, hard workout in. There’s a big difference between making an appearance and smiling and waving at a football game and going out and doing what he has to do in his training."
-- Greg Nelson, the founder, owner and head coach at the Minnesota Martial Arts Academy in Minneapolis, Minn., tells Yahoo!Sports.com that his biggest fighter, UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar, is still not well. Lesnar was recently forced to withdraw from his upcoming title fight against number one contender, Shane Carwin, at UFC 106 on Nov. 21. It was a difficult decision that did not sit well with most fans, setting off a firestorm on conspiracy theories that Lesnar wasn't really sick, but just preferred to fight on the blockbuster year-end show, UFC 108, which is scheduled for Jan. 2, 2010. Most of those Oliver Stones pointed to Lesnar's appearance at a Minnesota Vikings football game as proof that his illness was hogwash. Nelson defends Lesnar, saying that he has been unable to train hard because of the mysterious malady. In fact, he even indicates that Lesnar still has not returned to full strength and that he may have to postpone his return until the Superbowl weekend event in early February.
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I wonder what kind of shit Carwin will come out saying next…. Brock just wants to fight on Superbowl night?
Brock is afraid?
Brock just wants to hold onto the belt as long as he can?
by Chief on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Probably that he is sick too, but was still willing to fight for “the fans” Carwin has turned into a douche!
by JV on Nov 3, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whats going to be funny now is if carwin has any ailment or injury and has to back out. he may have a leg bone ripped through the flesh but he will still have to suck it and fight or risk looking like an idiot.
by day1er on Nov 3, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya what the hell. Pretty sure a doctor can determine what ails the meathead. Carwin may be coming off a little too righteous but he still isn’t the douche that brock is.
by syncro on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree us fans would like to see a doctors note. But as far Brock being a bigger douche than Carwin your 110% wrong Carwin has turned into the biggest douche since BJ Penn lost to GSP.
by Puck Head on Nov 4, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guys guys…There isn’t a single shadow of Carwin on this thread, and yet you continue to flame him.
I’m goin’ for the upset but I know Lesnar will take this. He’s cat-quick. Carwin is a dinosaur, lumbering like The Melvins’ brand of grunge.
by Syd on Nov 3, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are the haters, not Carwin. Carwin has already said that he WAS sick too and while he is disappointed about having to postpone the fight, he understands Lesnars decision and can use the extra time to recover himself. You guys are flaming a guy based on speculation of what he MIGHT say when he’s already said the opposite. And what has Carwin ever said that wasn’t true. He hasn’t been bashing Brock, he’s just said the same things most of us have said about Brock’s disgraceful shenanigans after his fights.
by shonuff on Nov 4, 2009 7:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carwin stated that if he was sick he would still be fighting. If you have seen any of the BS comments he has made about what wonderful and honorbale man he is and try and use Brock as leverage to gain fame for himself you might understand why there is so much hate for Shane. In the ring Carwin is a great fighter outside the ring he is a brown noseing tattle tale. I try and not judge a fighter on how they act outside the ring and more by how they fight inside but Carwin has been coming off as a wanna be hero with all the BS coming out of his mouth.
by Puck Head on Nov 4, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Brock should see a doctor. There are tests to diagnose mono and influenza.
by DrPepper on Nov 3, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point Dr Pepper.
With Brock’s money, there is no way he hasn’t already been to the doctor already. Probably a team of them.
Whatever he has, I’m sure they have a pretty good idea what it is.
It’s not like me who has no insurance and just rides it out. Brock is diagnosed and being treated already. I’m curious what it was?
by nobody on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re prolly testing theories and seeing what works and what isn’t. I’m sure docs are probably on plan b or c by now.
Chief, i’m excited to see what Carwin says, too. Prolly something along the lines that he beat swine flu, swine flu beat Brock, therefore he is the real champ or some shit along those lines lol.
What I’m really worried about is what they’ll do with Nog. By Feb 6, we’ll have winners of both Mir/Kongo and Dos Santos/Gonzaga. Looks like we’re gonna have Nog/Mir 2 before Nog fights for the title.
by rockwell on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As much as Barney loves and respects the fans of MMA, who are the greatest fans in the world by the way, he would never infect any of them with some sort of mystery virus.
by PW on Nov 3, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please People
Dont ya get it. He needs a new source for steroids. You really dont think he is natural. Its DEFINITELY A SICKNESS
by TimothyW on Nov 18, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where are all the CANADIANS??? Its not like Canadians to pass up an opportunity like this to expound on how shitty America is, and to rub it in our poor runny noses that they don’t need insurance and have free health care.
by shonuff on Nov 4, 2009 7:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe while doing some 106 promotions him and jameson had a fling and now he’s suffering the consequences
by Jared on Nov 4, 2009 7:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well i like the trash talking :) gives it a wrestling hype feel to it.
reguardles its going to be a hell of a fight WHEN it occurs.
by ufcfanboy on Nov 5, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I can function sick, but not do any physical activities. I went to hearst castle with either swine flu or pneumonia, no one but my wife could tell.
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*****MY MONDAY THOUGHTS AND RANT*****
I really get a kick out of some of you guys and your conspiracy theories. From what I’ve gathered, Brock wants to fight more, not less, maybe other champs and fighters alike should take a page outta his book. This coming from a 100% NONFAN!!
ther have been some great quotes on this site as of late, from “Mr. T has the rights to a mohawk so rampage won’t have one” to “Houston Alexader is one of the baddest fighters in the UFC” and not referring to how bad and one dimensional he is, to guys really buying into Kimbo is training hard. I guess common sense just isn’t too common anymore… You can’t trademark a haircut, Brock is sick and Houston sucks! I try to spew facts and truths, so I’ll throw this one out there, I’m more excited for this sat. strikeforce card than the last 3 UFC’s and the next couple too. Also if Kimbo makes anymore than 20k to show and 20k to win (which he won’t collect) I’ll lose all respect for Dana considering he said if he WON his contract was different! Sorry for the rant, I’m off to work homies!
by kevin on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ill admit that Im eager to see Strikeforce, but only cause Im hoping for the upset! I hope Rogers catches Fedor, and makes him dance worse that he did when Fujita caught him.
by JV on Nov 3, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First off people making those comments are more than likely joking. Anyway, this is by far Strikeforces best card that has alot of quality fights on it, I am espeically excited for Mayhem vs. Sheilds. I agree this card is more stacked than any of the recent UFC cards but they dont have the depth to consistently put on big shows like this. Also, they do not market their product effectively like the UFC. Strikeforce is solely promoting Fedor and Fedor only forgetting that Mayhem is the most popular guy on the card and he is fighting for the title against one of the best in the world in Jake Shields. Also Brett Rogers is alot more marketable than Fedor, he is a big scary looking guy that speaks english and can relate to the common folk. Fedor on the other hand, can’t speak english, doesnt have the look, nor is he exciting outside of the cage, he is the best fighter in the world but that does not mean the casual fan will want to tune into his fights as shown by his inability to be a draw on ppv. Now on to Kimbo. I think you will be losing all respect for Dana if you dont want to see Kimbo make any more than 20 and 20. Kimbo will be making atleast 100K to show in my opinion but it will only be a one time thing if he doesnt win, and I do not see him beating Houston Alexander, Houston is just as one-dimensional as Kimbo, but he is better at that dimension. Houston has kicks, elbows, and knees to go along with his hands. They both have shown the ability to be knocked out and I see Kimbo getting Knocked out early and having a short lived ufc career. The UFC though got exactly what they wanted out of him, alot of publicity and exposed the UFC to alot of new people.
by matt on Nov 3, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frustrating thing about Strikeforce is their champions will not defend the belt. Specifically Kung Le and Alistar. I know Le vacated and Alistar should do the same. But it will continue to be a problem as long as Strikeforce is so open with cross-promoting.
UFC is always paying big bucks for names and draws before they have proven they belong there. Lesnar jumps to mind. He has proven himself since but he got paid more than some hall of famers from fight one. Why? Because of his fanbase and WWE superstardom. Kimbo will get the same treatment. Why? Because of his fanbase and YouTube superstardom.
by wAyNe on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lesnar though actually had a legimate wrestling background as an ncaa champ, and wrestling according to alot of mma fighters is the best background to have coming into mma. Kimbo on the other hand had no formal fight training and is known for beating up bums in backyards.
by matt on Nov 4, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin, there are plenty of good reasons to lose respect for Dana, but Kimbo-gate ain’t one of em. Of course Kimbo will make more than 20/20. Fighters aren’t paid based on how well they fight, they’re paid based on how many tickets and PPVs they sell. Why? Because that’s how the UFC gets paid. The sad fact is that no matter how far down the undercard they put him, more people will tune in to see Kimbo than the main event. Besides that, Dana has to pay him enough to keep him away from Strikeforce until he’s totally discredited and nobody cares about him anymore.
by shonuff on Nov 4, 2009 8:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Get the Fock over the fact that SF champs dont defend the title. who cares? they are paper champions who won SF titles when their was no competition in the organization. Sure Alistar won the title, but who the Fock cares? it means nOTHING when you now got Fedor in the mothafockin building. The SF HW title will be defended on Saturday in the Fedor/Grim fight, only difference is the belt wont be awarded.
Same goes with cung Le. He won the title fighting guys like Sammy Morgan and Fryklund which means nothing. He didnt win the title when the division had top guys like Lindland,Jacre,Sheilds,Mayhem…Cung’s title means NOTHING. Sheilds/miller willl battle it out, but the real champion wont get crowned until Miler/Sheilds winner fights JaCRE!
cURRENT Sf BELTS MEAN NOTHHING. Real SF champions will be crowned in the up coming year~
by john G on Nov 4, 2009 8:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fock! I gotta wait even longer for Brock to shut Carwin the Fock up!
Sure Brock had a meltdown after UFC 100, but Carwin is much more disrespectful then Brock. Leading up to fights, Brock doesnt even like talking trash about his opponents and usually is respectful until he has had enough of his opponents running their mouths.
I used to be a big Carwin fan, unti he got an undeserving title shot just by running his mouth…once he got the tite shot, he kept running his mouth acting like some moral, defender of all that is good! Fock yoou Carwin…unproven, over rated FOCK!
At thihs point, whats the difference between Carwin and Duffee? Not much! Only difference is Carwin ran his mouth and got attention, and he closed his eyes and landed one flush on Gonzaga!
Fock it, Book Carwin vs. Nog! Normally I would want Nog to sit out and wait for his promised title shot, but he would easily dispose of Carwin, so bring him on!
by john G on Nov 4, 2009 8:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
john, when was Nog promised a shot? I don’t remember anyone saying that Nog-Handy was for the number one contender slot. Nog is punch drunk, he has looked like a 60 year old since joining the UFC. I know he is a really nice guy and has a lot of fans, but I really don’t want to see him killed by Brock. Other than that I agree with everything you said. Shane was still suppose to fight Cain when he opened his mouth and got a free title shot, without having to earn it.
by jay on Nov 4, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
After Brock dismantles and humiliates Barney, his next defense HAS to be against Nog. Nog has the credentials and the body of work over the course of his career to deserve a shot, and once Brock beats him too then all the anti-Brock whiners will finally have to accept the fact that Brock is a bad-ass.
by PW on Nov 4, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brock is a bad ass and I like the guy, but Nog will make him tap!
by john G on Nov 4, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carwin has bought a little more time before his death.
WAR BROCK ………. and get well buddy
by JT on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WAR BROCK IS RIGHT!!! Im glad he didnt take the fight like that. I want him to smash Carwin into (bolivion) <- a Mike Tyson reference.
by JV on Nov 3, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. You know I can’t help but post a few times on a Brock thread. Barney, the governor is on line one. You’ve been granted a new trial, so your death sentence is waived for the time being.
by PW on Nov 3, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol i can’t wait to see Brock knocked out cold and imagine the tears streaming down PW’s face if it happens.
by frosnt on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep dreaming frosnt Brock knows that training is a huge part of how you do on fight night and not being able to train and stepping in the octagon you could of been right. brock knows Carwin is no joke and is leaving no excuses on the table and I’m glad look at all the NOG fans after mir beat him?
by Puck Head on Nov 4, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PW, we are slowly turning this into a pro-Brock site. 6 months ago we couldn’t find 3 other guys who liked him, now almost everyone has seen the light. I love it.
by jay on Nov 4, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Most people are more anti-Barney now than pro-Brock. Still, I must say: MUA-HA-HA-HA-HA!
by PW on Nov 4, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if all those steriods he taked over the years wrecked havoc with his ammune system and organs.
by bigmcmac on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
its reeking havoc and immune system, nice try though.
by Egads on Nov 3, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually it is wreak havoc and immune system so you’re both wrong. LOL.
by MK on Nov 4, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MK he was using past tense. I doubt the sentence should have read:
I wonder if all those steriods he taked over the years wreak havoc with his ammune system and organs.
He spelled steroids, took and immune wrong anyway. So wreak or reeking or whatever is not a big deal really.
by jay on Nov 4, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he’s got the butt flu
by SluggerCitySoldier(Shogun got ROBBED) on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
so 108 has now lost 3 possible main event title fights LOLOLOL
by nelson on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the ufc has hit some hard times when it comes to the injury bug. I do not think any champion will be available for this fight if brock is unable to, as Ed Soares has said that both Machida and Silva will be unable to compete on this card due to recent surgeries. Penn is fighting on 107 and I think GSP is out until atleast February. I dont see any oppurtunity for the ufc to create an interim title either, this is when the loss of a guy like Dan Henderson really hurts, the ufc could potentially get away with a Henderson vs. Mardquart main event as henderson is a decent draw, if there is a decent co-main event that card would do atleast 400,000 buys, not bad for a card with no title fights. This would be the perfect time for Chuck Liddell to make a return from a money stand point for the ufc, but i dont see that happening as he is still undecided on his retirement and has stated before that if he does return it wont be before April 2010. I guess we will just have to wait and see how deep the ufc roster really is.
by matt on Nov 3, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the UFC really needs to start thinking about keeping alternates on tap and having fill-in matchups on standby.
by shonuff on Nov 4, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GSP plans to return in March or April. Hopefully April in Montreal.
by jay on Nov 4, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Duffee-Buentello fight off with Duffee injured – UFC looking to replace Duffee with Struve.
by jayshogun on Nov 3, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hell to the f’ing yes! Now my superbowl card finally may have a decent fight on it. 108 has got enough fights anyways.I was starting to worry about 109. I’ve already got my flight booked for 109 and have been sick to my stomache about the line up rumored so far. This would make it worth it.
by Josh H. on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
UFC 108 does not have any main events Josh. Machida went down, Silva went down, now Lesnar went down, I know you dont care and are in fact pretty happy as some of these fights will now probably take place on 109, but for the ufc and the other fans, this is not good.
by matt on Nov 3, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damm i was going man they better have a main event i don’t care if they put lidell vs coleman and add a belfort vs marquadt match but no belt for year end event is a crime
by bryant on Nov 3, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hehe, funny you should mention that! I was just thinking that Coleman would be a logical fight for Liddell if he comes back. They’re worried about his safety now that his chin is shot to heck, but he could still fight big-name grapplers like Coleman and Tito or pillow-punchers like Forrest.
by shonuff on Nov 4, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brock most probably caught something from his wife’s nasty cooter.
by Jack on Nov 3, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Brock should take 6 months off! Hell, take a year off! Maybe then Brock will feel better. I don’t want to hear any excuses when he gets knocked out!
by nicky on Nov 3, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Quote from Carwin “He’s sick. What the hell! I’m dying of SMALL POX but will fight him behind my trailer.” Ok.. I might have made that up.
by DolFan on Nov 3, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
as big of a redneck as he is, i can diff see that. if you hunt it becomes an addiction. that better not be what it is he better be really sick. not sure what he could have
by FatAttack513 on Nov 4, 2009 8:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
heheh. Yeah, why aren’t they asking BRICK about hunting bears with a knife and fork instead of Fedor. I could totally see Brock wrestling bears in a circus! Oh wait, I DID see that! It was called WWE!
by shonuff on Nov 4, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he’s waiting for Fedor…Strikeforce should be bankrupt by Christmas…
by daveisyourhero on Nov 4, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i think brock might be injured, not sick. he is delaying to see if he can get better. if not, then he may really be sick with something serious. i agree with some other posters though, we need to find out what is wrong.
by Conan the Barbarian on Nov 4, 2009 12:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
WHY? It’s none of our freakin’ business if the guy has siphilis or whatever!
by shonuff on Nov 4, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No one knows for sure it could be that his stand up is not were he wants it and wants more time to train it could be because Dana wants to push him back and Brock is playing the game it could……. Really now unlessthere is proof of some kind I’m thinking he really is sick! WOW not everything has to be a conspiracy LOL.
by Puck Head on Nov 4, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carwin is sick also…he is suffering from flu also
by michael on Nov 4, 2009 12:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I had mono and couldn’t even eat for almost three weeks. After that I was weak as fcuk for like 2 months and had some minor flu’s. So if it’s mono like they’re speculating I wouldn’t be surprised we didn’t see that fight until Feb.
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by OJR Is King (formerly Introvert) on Nov 4, 2009 11:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Most things come down to one thing, $$$$$$$$$$. I think Brock wants more money from Zuffa. He was complaining about the sponsor, bud lite, during his postfight interview at UFC 100. He in staging this sickout trying to get a highter percentages of PPV buys.
by jmcguire on Nov 4, 2009 11:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
stop faking already crock & defend yur title !! who do u think u r alister overeem ??? u no barney carwin is guna punch a hole thru yur big ass head !
by d*locc on Nov 4, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn’t surprise me if he has the Swine considering he lives out in the middle of no where considered to be farm life. Hanging out with too many pigs hehe.
by Vic De Zen on Nov 11, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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