U know buentello would have gotten stopped on strikes maybe in the 2nd round right. Maybe he could have gutted out a 3rd beating like herring against Lesnar. The kid is a massive wrestler with longer reach, good cardio and ridiculous power. Buentello has technical advantages in the standup but cardio and chin are suspect while his wrestling is a convicted criminal.

WTF!!! The UFC shouuld just cancel all its events and postpone mma for a few months until all this injury bad luck boils over. I mean its ridonkulous! every time there is an exciting mma season, it never pans out. Just think about how Big this summer was supposed to be for mma, then comes the Barnett Fiasco.

Only winner in this situation is paniczoo, who wont be sing any money on his Buemtello donation. Betting Buentello iisnt a bet, its a donation.

I want to see Struve/Buentello

Buentello/Barry would be cool, but I think Pat is son the shelf with an injury!

Hardonk/Buentello woud work as well!

Theres almost no difference in height/reach between the two (1" on both and 5lbs weight difference) and duffman is an overated rookie, noname and john just watched his 7 second win over a sloppy jits guy and got a boner over his hot pecs and abs. Go watch the rest of his fights before spewing your ignorance all over the page.

noname – In the last five years Buentello has only lost to Overeem and Arlovski, two guys who can ko anyone with a clean shot, he does not have a suspect chin. As far as offensive wrestling, sure thats not pauls game but his td defense is excellent, go watch the baby fedor fight again, Kiril is a Sambo prodigy and trains with Johns idol Fedor so you will agree his takedown pedigree is top notch. Kiril was stuffed on every single takedown or throw he attempted and brutaly picked apart and outworked on the feet (stamina and cardio? check). The reason i was so excited to put this bet on was precisely because chumps like you two jump to conclusions when you don’t know shit and would have made buentello a massive underdog. alas we will never know now.

Hopefully they have time to get a replacement but with less than a month probally not. The UFC is having some bad luck but I also think it’s a sign of the times as fighters are now training harder than ever to simulate the actual fight but getting injured from pushing themselves to far? Hopefully your right and it’s just a curse but I’m thinking it’s more about their training?

Panic zoo: I am the last person to talk on a subject I know nothing about. I am one of the few people on thhis site that keep it real when I dont know much about a subject being discussed, If you ook in the archives you will often find me write something to the effect of:

“I dont know enough about this fighter to make a prediction or take part in this debate and I willl have to take a backseat and defer to NNR, or VM, or Alpha, Pw and countless other bloggers who’s opinion I actually respect.”

Im the ast person that says a word about fighters I havent studied or at the very least seen fight on numerous occasion…so i am the last person that talks out of his ass, or posts just to post.

-THE MMA GOSPEL OF JOHN!!!!!!

i want to add to my post – noname – i dont even think dufee is a wrestler at all.. can you elaborate on your claim of him being a huge wrestler when from my knowledge he has no wrestling credentials and is only 1"taller 5lbs heavier?

look at his last fight before the ufc – Assuerio Silva stuffed every takedown attempt by duffee in the whole fight and in the first round reversed one of his td attempts straight into full mount, it was only silvas eagerness to pull off the armbar that let duffee escape into his guard where todds innefective gnp and inability to pass guard led the ref to stand them up. It was power shots standin where Todd wins his fights.
Buentello has better TD defense that Assuerio Silva and would have been the quickest, most powerful, most technical and most experienced striker duffee had faced.

I think what you meant to say was “hes about the same size as buentello and not a wrestler, ummm ok ill shut up as i have no clue who this guy is, sorry for opening my mouth panic”

A quick, record setting knockout against an inferior opponent doesnt actually mean much in the long run, just ask James Irvine

I don’t know if Duffee is the goods or not. I do know Buentello is an experienced, intelligent fighter who would have provided a legitimate test. Bad news, as this was a fight I wanted to see.

OK, apart from your disturbing crush on fedor, u know your stuff john, which is why im surprised to see you write off buentello. also you are wrong on rogers and carwin being on the same level. but i can wait until nov8 for you to admit it.

As far as what they’ve proven in the ring, Carwin and Rogers are on exactly the same level: Undefeated records with one quality win each.

First of all thank you for pointing out that my MMA knowledge simply comes from watch a 7 sec KO of a guy who clearly doesn’t belong in the UFC. After watching MMA for all these years, a flash KO is what gets me jumping on hype. Let me tell you that i was on this damn site tell cats to keep an eye on him since watching him beatup Silva last year. I was also there when he posted on the UG that he did it on 3 days notice without training which i think says a lot about him(I bet you knew that). You wanna talk about spewing ignorance. You watch one fight of Kiril and declare him a sambo prodigy? Really? Please stop embarrasing yourself and start watching some god damn M-1 shows if you wanna be taken seriously with your fighter knowledge. The man can only slug, burns himself out quick, and most obviously worst of all in all his fights can’t wrestle worth a damn. You’ve probly only seen him fight at affliction and that nickname so you’ve made him to be some kind of dominant fighter. You have to see all his fights in M-1 to see that he was just a young kid with a sh!t ton of grit but way in over his head. That fight should not be indicative of Paul’s defensive wrestling.

2) In the last five yrs he’s only lost to Overeem and AA. Ok so what seeing how he wins are against guys like Warpath, Tank, Goodridge. Oh yea, this guy is a beast. Paul is exactly what he is. A gritty veteran with a ton of experience but large gaping holes in his game becuase he’s never had to face guys that are equipped to deal with him or take him otu of his fighting zone.

3) The only fight we’ve seen Paul forced to use his wrestling recently was against Overeem. The demolition simply abused him until he quit by using his brilliant wrestling skills honed on the dutch kickboxing circuits. If overeem could simply latch on to him and shoving him around i would bet a rookie wrestler (you don’t need to be credentialed to be one) can easily do it IMO. He didn’t get any chance to get going simply because he didn’t know how to get a striker off of him in a wrestling bout.

4)Now Duffee only has 5 fights so there is still plenty of time to see him develop and yes we can only go on by three of his fights so far. But i would rather take him that a guy that i know who will keep doing the same thing over and over.

5) As far as his size, i didn’t say he was bigger, i said he was massive but his reach i can say i was wrong about that. Regardless, like i said this fight would be decided on the ground.

6) Finally please kindly go f@ck yourself for making me waste all this time schooling your ignorant @ss.

lol, nice NNR, good post!

massive = WRONG
wrestler = WRONG
reach = WRONG
Buentello has no cardio = WRONG
Buentello has no chin = WRONG
Buentello has no takedown defense =WRONG

Noname – That was the most long winded way of admitting you are wrong I have ever read. And you want me to go and fuck myslef for showing you up infront of your little faggot click, well i understand you are frustrated and embarassed so i will forgive you. But if youre man enough to apologise it only takes one word. Im waiting…

Noname – I had to laugh at your suggestion that Overeem is a rookie level wrestler who fights and trains mainly on the Dutch kickboxing curcuit.
 
Overeem has 6x as many MMA fights as kickboxing matches you idiot, 5 of his 6 other most recent MMA wins were subs and he has faced twice as many dangerous grapplers as duffee has had fights, but you reckon Duffee is as good a wrestler!? Duffee the same guy who had every takedown he tried stuffed by Assuerio Silva and ended up on his back mounted against the smaller man!? Are you kidding me!? you are a joke!

First of all it’s kinda sad that you actually believe that a man who has trained all his life at Golden Glory and suddenly made the jump to the highest levels in K-1 onlys has 5 kickboxing matches. Even more sad is the fact that you don’t realize that people obviously don’t train their wrestling in kickboxing matches. Overeem simply was pulling him down on the ground as opposed actually wrestling him down. Duffee beat up a rugged but to the point more well rounded veteran than Buentello on two days notice. It’s sad and pathetic that you’d be willing to sling trash like defend Buentello’s cardio, his hyped up record since leaving the UFC and wrestling just because you can’t admit that you’re wrong. Now I don’t know if i’ve exposed you before and you’ve been patiently waiting to get me back so you’re bent on making ridiculous statements bashing a talented kid and taking shots at me while lying to yourself about sambo prodigies and one dimensional fighters. But I suggest to let go of it if that’s the case- you will feel much better. It’s too bad that this fight isn’t happening because i would have loved to hear your excuses.

NNR via FATALITY!!!!

Wow, you were wrong on every count and you still insist on making a dick out of yourself.

Overeem hasnt trained all his life at Golden Glory, he started out trainig under Chris Dolman, a submission wrestling expert and competing in MMA was always AlastairS focus, he had a handful of amatuer Kickboxing matches when he was 17/18 , he didnt join Golden glory until 2000 and has only had 7 pro kickboxing matches not 5. Mathmatics isnt a strong point for you either noname, how did you devide 43 by 6 and end up with 5? LOLZ

“people obviously don’t train their wrestling in kickboxing matches.” If you had any idea who Golden glory are you would know they have been promoting and training MMA since their inception, they have wrestling and BJJ coaches and more recently Sergei Kharatinov has brought in top level Russian wrestlers, on the striking side they are not a “kickboxing” gym but a muay thai gym, it just so happens that i train muay thai and if you had any fucking clue you would know that clinch grappling and takedowns are also huge part of muay thai and are trained almost every session. Go watch Tum Madsua and educate yourself you halfwit.

“Overeem simply was pulling him down on the ground as opposed actually wrestling him down.” HAAHAAHA WTF WTF WTF!? the stupidity of that statement is beyond belief! Double underhooks and an outside leg trip isnt wrestling? Turning the corner on a double leg isnt wrestling? Man you are clueless!

You go on to tool yourself by saying Assuerio Silva is a “well rounded veteran” you mean the same Assuerio Silva who was taken down and controlled from the top by Chiek Congo of all people? The same Assuerio Silva that got submitted by Brandon fucking Vera!?! You are clutching at straws.

And you cling to your assertion that Duffee has better cardio? Is that based on the fact that Todd has an average fight length of 2 minutes 40 seconds? Or that Buentello outworked his last 2 opponents over 3 rounds? Its pretty obvious that Duffees cardio hasnt been tested and you are just making this stuff up based on his physique, you ponce.

Im not bashing Duffee at all just pointing out that he is untested, not a wrestler and is similar in weight, height and reach to Beuntello, and I think Paul wins that fight. Todd has potential and I look forward to seeing him fight, im just pissed that i wont get to rake in some cash on this bet.

I am bashing you though, I have no clue who you are nor do I care but youre clearly completely full of yourself and completely full of shit.

Checkmate bitch.

It seems alot of these guys are training waaayyyy to hard without the proper recovery….boxers of the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s kept it simple, never got hurt and never gassed. Either that or ur point being "I’ll fight anyway’ is a thing of the past

No. Tito was irrelevant a long time ago.

Lol sorry wandy stays right where he is. I mean irrelevant to the belt. And with his long layoff & going 1 of 6 he is not looking great. Don’t get me wrong he’s a ton of fun to watch and ppv wise he’ll bring the noise. But he may be getting out of the pic.

And tito was least deserved of being on the list, but I did throw a maybe in there, we’ll see how 106 turns out that’ll answer some questions.