machida won and you lose ben…

did this guy not get the shit kicked out of him for like 8 minutes, or was i watching a different fight?

That was the worst point of the fight for Maz to step in and call it for sure but there is no question that fight was already in the books, it was just a matter of when. Rothwell was so gassed he could barely even answer the bell, I am guessing whatever he managed to “throw back” would be basically useless anyway at that point.

He is right.

It was a bad stoppage even though Cain was dominating, it doesnt matter, a bad stoppage is a bad stoppage no matter what.

And this is MMA, anything can happen at any time.

Rothwell could have knocked Cain out in the next minute even though it might have been unlikely, but thanks to the referee we’ll never know.

100% early stoppage…but Ben was getting crushed all the same.

“lost the first round by a small margin”? Riiiiight..

I actually thought that was a good stoppage. He had nothing for Cain.

Cain destroyed Rothwell, the only problem with the stoppage was the timing. Mazzagatti already warned Ben that he was close to stopping it and the second round was going the same way as the first. I actually thought that the fight should have been stopped earlier and the ref’s indecision meant that it was stopped just as Ben was getting to his feet, Cain was always going to win but the timing was ridiculous and shows what a poor ref Mazzagatti is.

As for Ben he was anything but robbed, he was given a lot of time to recover and got dominated by Cain just like I said he would. He needs to work on his TDD rather than making excuses for the defeat, bad timing or not he was done.

Not the best time to stop the fight considering all the opportunities there were to stop it up to that point but a stoppage was pretty inevitable even if not at the time it was stopped.Rothwell was being dominated!

Man, he was on his way out & probs wouldn’t have made it another 30 seconds but, nonetheless you have to give him the opportunity to lose the fight, not the ref. I truly feel he would’ve lost. But its not like we haven’t seen it before when some1 is getting destroyed only to land a clean one and end it ala leben or carwin etc who have been destroyed to one punch a Guy & steal it.

Very poor stop. I mean its questionably in the ref’s favor if the fighter is on his back when u stop it. But when u allow him to take the punishment he did thru out that fight, only to stop it while the fighter is on his way up rather than down is nonsense since it proves his legs are underneath him not giving out.

Unfortunately no one will care, as he was all but certain to lose, & he doesn’t have a cult following of diaper wearing fans like Shogun. No one cares about Ben.

It wasn’t a good stoppage, but rather than call it an early stoppage, I’d call it a late stoppage – I’m suprised it was allowed to go on as long as it did.

LOL at rothwell.
big baby rothwell.
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yes, mazagatti is an idiot. a horrible ref, who had no business stopping the fight when he did.
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but rothwell was definitely getting his ass kicked.
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questionable stoppage? no doubt.
was rothwell also “robbed”? lolololololololololol

shogun was robbed

Talk about poor sportsmanship, just be gracious in defeat.

This goes for Machida as well. i love the dude as a fighter, but he should stop substantiating his win with bogus claims that he won the majority of the rounds; just man up, admit it was a botched decision, and let things go. Just prove to us it wasn’t a botched decision in the rematch. Simple, respectful and sportsmanlike.

i do think it was stopped early but i dont think it would of made any diff, Cain would of just taken him down again and continued with the GNP

I wonder if, 25 years from now, any of these “robbed” fighters will send ref’s like Mazagatti a thank-you card for the fact that they can still speak English and walk unassisted.

Bad calls are disappointing. The Cain/Rothwell fight did NOT end on a bad call. If you are not willing to accept that a blown decision by an official will cause you to lose (the Super Bowl, the Stanley Cup, the match, etc.) then do not step into the cage.

People rip on Mazagatti, Goldberg, Rogan, Dana, etc. and all without ever putting themselves in their shoes. Some fighters have the attitude that they want to die in the ring (Forrest, Sakuraba) but fortunately the ref is there to save them from themselves.

I agree it was a bad stop, it was an early stop the fight could have continued for a short time longer, but it was a fight Ben was going to lose, it was either going to be stopped a short time later or he was going to lose a dicision if he did manage to continue….

I agree that the fight was stopped to soon, that said the stoppage did not and would not have changed the outcome of that fight. Cain is to much for Ben, he was all over him like a cheap suit. I think Steve stopped Ben from being KO’d or even worse………..CAIN IS A BEAST!!!!!!

Machida and Shogun was so so close.
But Ben’s fight, not so much. I can’t see how allowing that fight to continue would have been to Ben’s advantage. I have seen a few instances where a fighter was being completely destroyed and turns it around with a submission. Like Lesnar/Mir pt.1. Ben wasn’t doing nothing though. Not even trying a submission. If nothing else, he doesn’t have to drink out of a straw for a week following the fight.

Ben Rothwell is a CAN, the only thing he has going for him is that he is huge, being that big makes him hard to handle. Most of you called Cain overrated before this fight but Ben Rothwell is all hype, thats all he is!!!!!!!

All I know was that fight was stopped too early. Who knows what might have happened. Rothwell decisively lost the first round but Mazzagati shouldn’t have stopped it.

Ben you got owned! Yeah the punches may be a bit sloft but he was dominating you all throughout!No way was rd1 close. It may even be a 10-8! Shogun Machida was razor thin! Your fight on the other hand is was and will always will be a blowout! Stop making excuses boy.

whatever… that was one of the biggest ass kickings I’ve ever seen. You just looked big, slow and had terrible takedown defense

What are you people talking about big ben got owned, perhaps, but dam mazagati stopped the fight before the classic grappler vs striker highlight real in favor of big ben. Ben was on his way back to what could’ve been a HR the next time Cain would’ve shot in for a single or double. Ben would’ve KO’d him with a knee ala the sandman vs some dude, or the King fisher vs the guy from tuf, or a more leathel version of kongo. Yes, ben, you got robbed!

I remember a beer commercial from a few months back where the ref announcing the penalty says “We really blew it on this call, but don’t worry. We’ll give the other team a penalty in the next quarter for no apparent reason, just to make things even.”

If there was ever an MMA equivalent, this is it. It was a terrible stoppage, but it certainly wasn’t early. Pornstache knew he should have stopped it in the first so he was just looking for any excuse to give Hands of Silk the TKO he deserved from round 1.

It was a just stoppage as Rothwell actually looked like he was on his way out when the punches connected, he obviously wasnt that badly hurt but it LOOKED like he was

maybe it was “bad timing to stop the fight”. But he was warned by Mazaggati at the start of the round. He was getting schooled from the ring of the bell. What? was he gonna all of a sudden change his strategy and turn it on for the last round after he got tooled? He was even asking his corner “how do i stop the signle mike?” He was gonna get taken down, and get tooled. IF Cains punches didnt have any force, then why the hell was he all bloodied and bruised??? Ben, you got whooped from start to finish, move on. Mazzagatti saved you from taking an even worse ass whoopin.

Ben is delusional.

Love how artistic the title of this story is correlating to the picture of Cain practically ramming his genitals down Rothwell’s bloody, beaten down throat, how poetic.

I agree the fight was stopped too early! There’s no real need to “intelligently defend” soft blows! Ben was definately getting owned! But, imo Ben was not in any real trouble at the time Mazz stopped the fight! We’ll never know what would have happened now and it no longer matters to most!

we cud tell by yur face the punches wernt doing any damage ben!! if kongo wasnt so black his face wud of looked worse then big ben!!

Match this big fella up with Crocop.

Mazzagatti is THE worst ref there is and some of the other refs in the ufc are horrible. Bring back Big John. He’s one of the best if not the best, like him or not. And by the way Ben, you were gettin handled in a bad way.

Maz is terrible, and he did an awful job with that stoppage. But the silver lining is the Ben wasn’t gonna win that fight. Could have been worse.

The fight should not have been stopped when it was, Rothwell is absolutely right.

no way he’ll dominate back over Cain even thru 3 rounds but he’s seems to gassin out early already and Cain’s already puttin more effort than him and Ben prob gonna lose anyway. Ben’s just a tough fatass with no gas.

‘the punches didn’t hurt and definitely weren’t doing any damage, at least not enough to slow me down, but then he [Steve Mazzagatti] calls the fight? Please, my grandmother hits harder that that.’ – yea right how the hell you get cuts on your face? maybe you’re just high on adrenaline which increases tolerance to pain. you were slowing down after constantly bein grappled and toppled by Cain so quit sugar coating yourself.

‘Come on, if you would have seen me the next day you’d have hardly thought I was in a fight – I woke up the next day with barely a scratch on my face.’ – liar, what happened to those cuts on your face? they just don’t dissapear just the next day idiot.

I agree with Ben. That fight was called to early and Steve Maz should be fired

lol @ ben. yes, he was clearly inteligently defending himself…. hanging over the shoulder of the opponent, pinned against the cage taking unanswered shot, after unanswered shot to the face is no need to a stoppage call.

it was a good stoppage…
we were counting the undefended punches at the end … 6 undefended blows. that’s enough for me.
I would sooner see 100 premature stoppages, than one late.

“Quick stoppage” Mazzegati strikes again…..nonetheless, Rothwell looked horrible. Seems to me referees should take into consideration a fighter’s power and in Cain’s case, let the fight go a little longer than somebody who actually hits hard.

I totally forgot about this with all the Machida / Shogun controversy. I dislike Steve Mazzagatti so much, that guy shouldn’t be allowed to ref! Big John McCarthy needs to make a comeback.