Report: Kimbo Slice vs Houston Alexander in the works for TUF 10 Finale on Dec. 5

Not a chance for Kimbo! Houston will overwelm Kimbo with his pace.. Houston by TKO, RD 1.

I see this fight going to the ground and in one of the exchanges they both somehow end up on their backs. The fight will end when both of them can’t figure out how to get up. Kinda like 2 flipped turtles.

lol! Good one jay!

I’m going to go with Kimbo via GnP.

haha jay that was hilarious

Great stuff Jay!

This matchup makes no sense. Why not find a guy who’ll stand with him but has no power? Houston KO, 58 seconds into Rd1.

The UFC wants to make money and what better way then having the brotha vs brotha matchup! I hope Kimbo wins, Houston has already had his chance.

i beleive its called black on black crime..

Jay, that was a great post!!! Houston Alexander will retire Kimbo. Check out his last fight…he added some nasty leg kicks to his arsenal. Houston Alexander by vicious KO Rnd 1.

This fight is only happening for ratings, both guys are a draw and are guaranteed to have a quick brawl before one of them is KO’d. It’s the only fight that either would win in the UFC. I don’t care about the result as I see both fighters as one dimensional brawlers who have no place in the UFC talent wise but are given another chance because they are draws, particuarly Kimbo. As long as this fight doesn’t waste too much time i.e. there is a KO before they both gas then I don’t mind and this could be a fun fight like the Japanese freakshows.

houston looks like he’s taking the mother of all shits in this fight but this fight is all houston! hopefully kimbo gets lucky

Good call David. For all the crap Dana(and his followers) talk about freakshows, this seems hypocritical. Neither fighter will ever contend for anything, and it’s nothing more than for ratings. Not that I have a problem with it, because both guys work hard, but I don’t want to hear Dana talking about any other promotions for their fights.

i dont know why you guys are whining about this fight. not all fights should be #1 contender matches or title fights. dont you wanna see two guys go at it? sometimes i like seeing good old fashioned brawls and not always having technical fights. its also a good test for kimbo, if he cant beat a bottom ufc fighter who also has the same strengths and weaknesses he does he most likely cant beat anyone then we finally all know hes gotta fade away. quit bitching for the sake of bitching, lifes too short. and remember, its free.

i bet they both look like their pics here when they have the “O” faces too.

All I’m saying is that Dana is a hypocrite. I don’t have a problem with these guys fighting, but you know damn well if Strikeforce was putting this fight on all you would hear is “Strikefarce” is putting on freakshows. Two UFC rejects blah blah blah. Kimbo and Houston are both fighters, and I respect them for that. I really don’t have a problem with them fighting. I’m just talking about how much crap Dana talked about Kimbo, and then decided to cash in himself.

And why are you talking about their “O” faces?

Kimbo via flying gogplata. WOW IM SO FUNNY AND ORIGINAL HUH GUYS?!

Diceman – your blind hate is making you look stupid again, remove Fedors cock from the back of your throat and slide your ass off Mousasis pole and once your eyes stop watering things will become clear.

This is a TUF finale show free on cable TV and the Kimbo v Houston fight isn’t the main event, not to mention that they are evenly matched lower ranked stand up fighters, this is completely legit and good match making, no claims are being made about how great these guys are or that they are anything but 1 dimensional brawlers.

The reason so many people hate the Japan freak shows is bcuz you get giants who cant fight headlining against top 5 opponents (who then go on to claim them as great victories e.g. Fedor v hmc and zuluzingerburger) – its the gross mismatches that are such a turn off for fans, if this was in Strikeforce they would put it on a main card, maybe even co or main event because they have such a shallow ool of fighters.

Heres the pecking order of UFC cards

1. Numbered US ppvs – most title fights
2. Numbered overseas cards – mostly free on cable, rarely titles
3. Fight nights – free – contender decider matches and upncomers
4. TUF finales and PPV Prelims – Free on cable with entertaining fights and rookies.

See how far away from a main event on a ppv card that puts this fight? Are you complaining about Jones Hammill for free (another excellent matchmaking decision by Dana and Joe)?

Dana is not a hypocrite for putting Kimbo in an evenly matched fight on the card of a 4th tier ufc event when his competition had Kimbo fighting paid off OAPs as their main event of their big shows and promoting kimbo above Shields, Arlovski, Carano, Daley, Nelson, Rogers, Silva etc. not to mention they paid kimbo 10x as much as Seth got. If anything Dana is sticking to his word by doing this.

In my opinion this is the perfect way to handle Kimbo and is about as even a match as either of these fighters will get.

Tell me Diceman – do you think the Fedor v Rogers is a more even matchup? In my opinion it is a bullshit match with a grossly outclassed rookie being sold as a #1 hw contender. In fact – go and look at the fight lines for the upcoming M1Global presents Strikeforce card on betus – Fedor and Gegard are both -500 FFS which is just a reflection of the fact that these fights are one sided record padding.

See dana can say whatever the fuck he wants cuz his competition are selling you a bag of shite (just because Diceman buys it doesnt stop it from stinking) while he is putting on great evenly matched fights at all levels and building the MMA talent pool and viewership at the same time.

I kinda agree with u Diceman, but on the other hand, D. White is not using Kimbo to spearhead his organization and he’s not going to lose $$ promoting him. Going on TUF gives Kimbo some credibility, as a hardworking rookie. Even though Houston’s not among the elite he is a dangerous 1st rnd standup fighter. It’s not a freakshow designed to have Kimbo fight a slouch, it’s a test to see if Kimbo can at least hang with the big boys. IMO Houston wins by 1st rnd TKO.

Come on mania, i so enjoyed writing that post ripping into diceman, please put it up and share the love.

“mother of all shits”…. hah hah!! Pure Jared…Pure.

I disagree and agree with diceman….Dana is not making this a PPV event, if he did, then he would be a hypocrite. Dana points out bad fights with other orgs when fights are the main stage, this is a TUF final, so I will give him a pass, i agree this the whole Kimbo thing is sad, Dana made fun of this guy and now is promting him! But I love this fight for what it is pure fun, I like both guys, yes they will never be contenders but it will be exciting to watch.

This will be an entertaining slugfest, and I normally wouldnt have a problem with this match up because its not on a UFC ppv main card where it DOESNT BELONG! However, the UFC is going to market this fight as if its Machida vs. Anderson. The marketing that will accompany this fight will make me sick. Both will be marketed as 2 of the greatest strikers in the world!

agreed

Wow paniczoo I don’t even know what to say to that post—you need to try to look at matters with this thing called “objectivity.” Since you probably don’t know what that means I’m saying you should take you’re head out of Dana White’s a$$.

That you can even compare this fight to Fedor-Rogers is mind-blowing. Rogers is a consensus top tenner, undefeated with a win over AA. The only reason he’s a huge underdog is b.c he’s fighting Fedor (who’d probably be like a -1000 favorite against Couture). Almost any fight involving Fedor could be considered a “mismatch.”

This might be an “even” fight but you could just as easily have gone to the local bar and picked up a couple of bikers to give you a good brawl if that’s what you wanted. Or gone to the local dojo and picked up a couple of little karate kids who are evenly matched to put onto the card.

And they might not be “headlining” it but you know full well as John g said they are gonna market the hell outta this fight. You must see the hypocrisy of DW involving Kimbo, don’t you? He insults him continuously, then eventually relents that the only way he’d get into the UFC is through TUF. Kimbo loses in a horrible fight now he’s in the UFC? The obvious truth of the matter is Kimbo represents everything wrong with the UFC and MMA in general—the tendency to value “draws” over actually talented fighters.

John – did strikefirce and shammy marketing Rogers as #2 he in the world make you sick? It made me laugh.
Frost – do you realise that Rogers has the exact same skillset as Kimbo and Alexander?

PanicZoo strikes again with inane whining about non-facts and tries to justify his stance by comparing apples and oranges. You accuse me of being a Fedor and Moussasi nuthugger. Yes, I think Fedor is the best HW in the world, for very realistic and rational reasons, so I defend him against haters like you. I do like Gegard’s fighting style and his demeanor, but I’ve never once on this site(or any other for that manner) said anything about how I like him before now. Your desire to “rip me” is once again clouding your rationale. You talk about the Japanese freakshows and how the fighters or companies use them to try to build a fighters name by claiming it was a huge victory. From my experience this is nothing more than a blatant lie. I’ve never heard anyone from Fedor’s camp say that his victory over HMC is the reason he’s the best in the world, and I’ve never heard Ed Soares talk about how Big Nog is so great for his win over Sapp. These things just aren’t happening, and the fact that you need to falsify reality to support your views, shows that you don’t have a leg to stand on. You for some reason feel the need to to come up with a rankings system of UFC event types, and then ask, “See how far away from a main event on a PPV card that puts this fight?” My question back is, what the fuck kind of question is that, and what relevance does it have in this conversation? When did I ever say anything about Kimbo being on PPV? Kimbo wasn’t on PPV with EliteXC and he’s not with the UFC. That was never a point I tried to make. The reason that Dana is a hypocrite has nothing to do with PPV buys. Dana talked about how terrible EliteXC was for propping Kimbo up as a great fighter, and for putting him on TV for the ratings. That’s exactly what Dana has done. As others have mentioned this entire terrible season of TUF was built around Kimbo because of his drawing power, obviously not his ability to fight. Even after being dominated and bounced from the competition at the beginning, he’s fighting on the main card of a UFC event because of his drawing power, no other reason. You would never see a fighter of Kimbo’s quality in the UFC if they weren’t popular. Is this a business? Absolutely. Do I have a problem with two fighters chasing a dream? Absolutely not. Am I stupid enough to not see DW and his hypocrisy like you? Hell no. The hypocrisy doesn’t have shit to do with with whether or not this is an even match-up. Frostn already handled you on that one. As far as the Fedor-Rogers fight, it’s two consensus top-10 fighters fighting. Only a an idiotic hater would say that fight makes less sense than Kimbo-Alexander. Then again, that’s all you’ve ever proven to be. Strikeforce isn’t selling me anything, they’re giving me high quality fights on national TV for free. If you want to come at me, come correct. Don’t come with a bunch of hater-inspired bullshit that a 9th grader’s logic could burn holes through.

Saying that Rogers has the exact same skillset as Kimbo and Alexander is like saying Roy Jones Jr. has the exact same skillset as a Golden Gloves winner.

I thought you made a good point PZoo, and Egads as well. I think I have a good point for Frost to consider. I agree that both Kimbo and Houst are low level fighters, but far from what I would consider “everything wrong with MMA in general”. They are just hard working fighters that unfortunately haven’t developed a well rounded set of skills. Obviously, Dana will try to over-hype or over-promote this fight to some degree, which is hypocritical based on his past remarks. But the reason that I have absolutely no problems with him doing this is that he is not marketing this as a main event, ala EliteXC, and he is using this bout as a tool to attract people who may not normally see fighters like Frankie, Hamill, Bones, Batman and Howard. IMO, its actually a super smart move on the part of Dana, who I feel does actually care about mma in spite of some of the odd things that he says and does sometimes. The Kimbo Houst fight has a pretty important purpose, and it may actually turn out to be a good fight. To the die-hard mma fans, there is no need to get too bent out of shape about this; just enjoy because it will be over before you know it.

Diceman, maybe you’re right, Dana White is a terrible evil man and there’s no difference between appearing on a reality show finale and headlining a promtions marquee event also Brett Rogers is a well rounded fighter.
Ahahahaha dry your eyes and tame your imagination, you are wrong!

I don’t know about terrible or evil, but hypocritical for sure. Never said there wasn’t a difference between the venues either, but once again you’re just too damn dumb to get the point that everyone else gets. I don’t know whether or not Rogers is well-rounded since he’s knocking everyone out on the feet, but I think it’s certainly short-sighted and extremely presumptive to assume he has no ground game just because we haven’t seen him on the ground. My eyes are as dry as ever, you’re ignorance is world class.

Dh- very level headed and insightful post, using kimbo to draw in casual fans then hooking them with great matches like bones/hamill is a master stroke from Dana. I’m so happy he’s the man running MMA ;-)

the difference in venues is what stops it from being hypocritical, if dana had kimbo on a main UFC 106 card headlining against Mark Kerr or Jason Guida – then he would be a hypocrit. dana said kimbo was shit, didnt deserve to headline and would only get in the ufc through tuf – kimbo went through tuf and is now fighting an equal level of fighter – it seems that following through on your word EXACTLY is your idea of hypocracy. Duh

The fact that Rogers has zero experience on the ground in an actual MMA fight is all you need to know, in fact the only fighter with any ground game Rogers has faced was Arlovski and hes only had one submission win in 9 years. If you think Rogers can stop Brock, Cain, Carwin, Randy, Gonzaga or Fedor from taking him down and demolishing him you are a fool. I would be willing to bet that Roy Nelson could put Rogers on his back and tool him too, if Rogers gets into the UFC that should be his first test. Rogers even lists himself as a standup fighter only. HOW YOU CAN SAY HE IS A TOP TEN FIGHTER WITHOUT HIS WRESTLING OR GROUND GAME EVER BEING TESTED IS BEYOND ME!!

just to reitarate that, Rogers doesnt know how it feels to be on his back in an mma fight, he has never defended a sub attempt in an mma fight, he has never defended a takedown in an mma fight, he has no ground game dude face it, he will lose by sub in the first, even though its -500 im putting all the money my Betus account on Fedor to win, its a gimme – a no brainer.. free cash.

Panic: keep my name out of it! I stopped respionding to the nonsense that you type a long time ago!

Since you still don’t get it, I’ll try one more time…DW has been hypocritical in his handling of Kimbo. Even your buddy DH who you agree with said so. It’s hypocritical to dog out a company for their promotion of someone you call a worthless fighter, and then base all of your promotion for a TV series around the same fighter. If you don’t get that you really are just plain stupid. If Strikeforce had this fight on the main card Saturday night instead of Werdum-Silva you would be throwing a hissy fit in your usual fashion and you know it. Assuming someone has zero ground game simply because they’ve knocked out all of their opponents is foolish, I don’t care what imaginary matchups you want to play out in your feeble mind. Do I think he has a great ground game? No. But I don’t have a crystal ball either so I’ll be wise enough to refrain from calling his ground game garbage without ever having seen it. Rogers is a consensus top-10, and has proven as much as Carwin, Cain, and JDS. How you don’t understand why I call him top-10 when almost every ranking does is beyond me. Your lack of rational thought is terrible. You’ve always been a troll, simply posting anti-Fedor and anti-anything non-UFC. It’s not worth arguing with someone like you. To reiterate, the ONLY problem I have with this matchup is DW’s hypocrisy. I’ve defended Kimbo and his right to fight numerous times. You will show your colors when Herschel Walker fights and you hypocritically bash Strikeforce for allowing him to fight when he will never compete for a title. That’s the type of guy you are. H-A-T-E-R.

what dana did was take a guy who was headlining for another orgs biggest show and getting paid half a million$ per fight to beat on cans, called him out on it and humbled him by putting him on the lowest rung of the ufc ladder and testing him against real fighters – that is not hypocricy.

Just because lots of people tune in to see the results of these tests doesnt warrent hatred towards dana or the ufc, IN FACT HE SHOULD BE APPLAUDED.

There is a big difference between a headline on the big show and a spot on a reality tv series.

John – it was a rhetorical question, i didnt expect a response but was trying to point out your double standards when it comes to Strikeforce overhyping a one dimensional brawler to sell their main event being acceptable to you, but if the UFC might do it that would make you sick.. now thats a hypocrit

He’s in his mid-30s too. I think that cliche about old dogs and new tricks applies to Houston as well.

Also, they brough Alexander back for this one fight because they know it will be exciting. If Kimbo is gonna win, they want as many PPL to see it as possible. If he’s gonna get KO’d by a UFC washout, they want as many PPL to see that as possible, so that by the time they release Kimbo to Strikeforce, he will have lost to so many cans on TV that nobody will care about him anymore. They can’t afford for the competition to get hold of Kimbo while his name still means anything.

Personally, I think he’s a rediculously inept fighter, but I really like the guy and admire his heart and humility. I’d love to see him learn some skills from Jackson MMA and work his way up the ladder. I can’t see him ever being a contender, but it wouldn’t break my heart to see him learn a few things and have a healthy career as an undercard fighter.

I think Seth would kill Houston.

Seth is kinda underrated! His only loses are to matt hamill and wilson gouveia…. He by no means is a word beater but he deff is step above guys like huston and kimbo!

not to mention he’s fought some k1 bouts

I know about Seth and you see he has lost to pretty good guys but then he hasn’t beat anyone if you count Kimbo as a relative no one. So, I still would take Houston.

They won’t release Kimbo with 1 loss. The guy is too big of a draw to let him go to Strikeforce. The UFC will do more than other fighters to keep this guy on the roster.

Alpha…long time no hear, posted ina nother thread asking where you have been? Was told you had been in jail (JK) was told you had been busy. I agree that they wont release him, but it just kills me. I mean how many of those other fighters on TUF that lost their first match are going to be on the finale. I really don’t enjoy watching him fight.

alpha, I tried emailing you, did you shut down email? I got a return to sender failure to send message!

other then the 2 finalists and kimbo, i bet we will see at least 2 other tuf 10 guys on the free show. just a guess though.

idk man…i know we havent seen marcus and wessel fight yet but im honestly more impressed with kimbo in total than most of the other fighters in the house…obviously schaub would demolish him and nelson already beat him but like other than maybe mcsweeney or the black dude that schaub beat none of the fighters in the house really impressed me as much as kimbo…if he learns ANYTHING on the ground i feel like he could be decent

strikeforce didn’t want kimbo lol

Thanks for the concern brothers, lol! I was kind of in vacation… I was in reality working with my cousin on a Salmon project in the north of QC. That helps me keeping a foot in my field(biology). I was compiling data, fishing and hunting for 5 weeks then I when to the keys for a week. I could’ve go on the net or texting with my phone but I’m not there yet.In FL though I was just too busy to come on mania.

Kev, I put a freeze of a month on my account so it might be why you had problems, but it wasn’t supposed to do that. You are the first that I heard that you couldn’t send me an email. Sorry bud, you can send me one now, it should be working and I’m not leaving for vacation before another 2 months, so now it’s the time if you want emailing me.

As for Kimbo… I rather see him on the TUF finale than see him highlight a main event on a UFN or worst on a UFC main card. He won’t be the first and he won’t be the last that lost his first fight and be brought back on the finale b/c of it’s popularity, (Jeremy Jackson)comes in mind. I’m not TUF expert so I might be wrong though.

Paul and stvo – good to see rational and knowledgable opinions from both of you but stevo – decision? really? A triangle is more likely.

B_HOS Dana never said “the ONLY WAY he would ever fight in the ufc is if he WINS the ultimate fighter” plain and simple didnt say that so your whole arguement here is based on made up bullshit and clearly motivated by personal hate.

As far as fighters getting into the UFC after losing their first fight on TUF – it happens all the time man, Elliot Marshall didnt even win his initial fight to get into the house, then lost to Bader on the show, but through a bit of luck and a lot of hard work at Jacksons has gone on to get 3 straight wins in the UFC… so whats up now?

Kyle Kingsbury, Dave Caplan, Rolando Delgado – all lost their first round fights in that season too and went on to fight in the UFC so whats wrong with Kimbo doing the same? In fact the precedent was set when the very first guy to lose a fight on the very first TUF (Lodun Sincade) went on to fight in the UFC so check your facts or STFU dummy.

-1 to Diceman

Don’t Ask – had to look this up the other day. To funny not to post.

bad

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  — PHRASES to the bad to ruin or downfall. too bad informal regrettable but unable to be changed.

  — DERIVATIVES badness noun.

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I agree he’ll win, but they put him up against Kimbo for a reason, because he sucks and Kimbo could possibly beat him…even at HW, WAND would destroy kimbo.
it’s at 215 pounds, what part of that did you miss in the write up?

Houston is aight. I wouldn’t be surprised if Houston could kick the crap out of Bisping. Bisping is an okay fighter.

wand beat a prime fujita who was alot bigger than him, even a past his prime wandy would murder kimbo within 20 seconds

Could be, hes 37 kimbo is 35. whoever loses probably wont be seen in the ufc again.