Lyoto Machida hand surgery to postpone UFC 104 rematch against Shogun Rua
by Jesse Holland on Oct 31, 2009 10:43 AM EDT
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On the heels of the controversial main event finish at UFC 104 between Lyoto Machida and Mauricio Rua, UFC President Dana White promised disappointed fans an immediate rematch.
The general consensus coming out of the event was that "Shogun" did enough to win a decision over the undefeated light heavyweight champion at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California back on Oct. 24.
The only problem is he didn’t, losing two rounds two three. In fact, all three judges — Nelson Hamilton, Cecil Peoples and Marcos Rosales — scored it 48-47 for "The Dragon."
"I thought Shogun won the fight," White remarked at the post-event press conference.
White also appeared to be a little upset that both fighters didn’t lay it all on the line in the fifth and final round. That’s probably because both of their respective corners told them they were ahead on the judges scorecards.
Despite a lip laceration and some very sore legs, Machida was ready to prove to the world his win was no mistake -- just as Rua was ready to prove he was deserving of the 205-pound title.
There were rumblings of adding Machida vs. Rua 2 to the main card of UFC 108 on January 2; however, Yahoo Sports is now reporting that Machida will require surgery on his hand to repair damaged sustained in the five round battle against Rua.
As of now, the future of their planned rematch is up in the air. The extent of the injury, as well as the duration of the recovery time, has not been established, but it's hard to imagine a rematch happening earlier than mid 2010.
Stay tuned to MMAmania.com for more updates on Machida's surgery as they become available.
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Please don’t hold Shogun out on us now that he’s the ‘old’ Shogun again. Don’t have him wait. Let whoop on someone big like the Silva/Shad fight or another good fight. And bollocks to your convenient comment Lester, Machida ain’t ducking no one. He’ll come back stronger and better
by IrishKev on Oct 31, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if shogun would’ve got the win like he deserved we wouldn’t have to worry about this.
by Jared on Oct 31, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed Jared. And it sucks that to get the belt Shogun will have to beat Machida twice, especially since Machida is going to come back much better prepared and be much harder to beat the second time. Shogun has already showed his hand and he had Machida lost and confused in the first fight. Now Machida will have months to solve the “Shogun Riddle” and come back way more elusive and effective than the first time. It sucks for Shogun, cause I don’t think he can pull that same rabbit out of the hat twice, and he will probably never get to wear the belt that he so deservedly earned last Saturday.
by shonuff on Oct 31, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe shogun will storm right out of the gates and try and finish machida in the first minute, no one would expect that
by brendan on Oct 31, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just more evidence of the beating that SHOGUN gave Mashida. Face,body,legs,and now hand,SHOGUN GOT ROBBED!!!
by TaPouT on Oct 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually hand injuries tend to be indicative of you hitting the oter person. Unless you do something stupid and try to slap a kick
by connor on Oct 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this hand injury came from all the counters he did to Shogun everytime he ate a leg kick. Shogun’s face must’ve hurt because Machida’s hand got broken from all that punching!
by Syd on Oct 31, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone was too busy watching Shogun’s balls to see the fact that on top of his own striking points, Lyoto was getting points for counterstriking damn near every kick Shogun landed.
You get points for defense, also. Shogun nut huggers are just pissed that Lyoto is certain to destroy him next go around.
by Morganti on Nov 11, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun will win this rematch, Machida has no answer for Shoguns lunging attacks and devastating kicks.
by Bmo on Oct 31, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t. But now he’ll have six months to study the tapes and find one!
by shonuff on Oct 31, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enough with all the injury announcements lately!!! It’s postponed some damn good fights. If Fedor or Grimm get hurt this week I’m gonna be pissed!
by split decision on Oct 31, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s convenient about hand surgery?
They shouldn’t be expected to fight so soon after 5 rounds anyway.
Shogun needs the time to get some Hardonk power in those weak ass kicks of his.
by Insain on Oct 31, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is BS!!!!
j/k he prob really does need surgery after that @ss whoopin he took!
by tylerS on Oct 31, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An injured hand would mean he gave the whoopin….shogun didn’t hit him in the hand with his head…it was the other way around. think about it.
by think about it on Oct 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought about it, you are correct sir.
by tylerS on Oct 31, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah from shogun constantly running into his fist.
by ShaiZ on Oct 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enough. Shogun lost the decision. Let it go already.
If this is the first controversial decision you’re ever seen, welcome to MMA.
by KS on Oct 31, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They wanted this rematch at 108? Why. 108 already has Dos Santos/Gonzaga, Miller/Griffin, Silva/Evans, A. Silva/Belfort, Kampman, Lesnar/Carwin,Condit/Daley. Screw you ufc, what about my 109 card? Don’t blow your wad on the year end card and leave me with a trash superbowl card like you did at 81. Move some of these fights to 109 or I’ll slap you.
by Josh H. on Oct 31, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting , he must have been hitting rua harder than you shogun fans thought to require surgery to his hand
look at it this way it gives shogun more time to prepare again , i look for machida to come out in the rematch and prove all the doubters that say he didn’t deserve the UD wrong!!
With that said Shogun was very impressive, look like the shogun of old! even if he doesn’t beat machida in the rematch i’m sure if he keeps it up he will remain at the top of the heap for sure!! Shogun/ortiz shogun/evans shogun/T.silva shogun/couture shogun/bones jones and the list can go on with great match ups
by TheDragon on Oct 31, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You don’t break your hand from clean hits to the face. You break your hand from glancing blows off a guy’s elbows or punching him on the thick boney plate on the top of his forehead. Machida breaking his hand isn’t a testimony of how hard he was hitting, it’s proof of how well Shogun was blocking.
by shonuff on Oct 31, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so the thick boney plate at the top of your forehead is a good way to block shots huh???
by TheDragon on Oct 31, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe instead of urine in the morning he should have a glass of milk
by Kayo on Oct 31, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, if they throw a jab, head-butt it. Foolproof
by connor on Oct 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This actually kinda works in Shogun’s favor. Now he can possibly get another big win (winner of Lil Nog/Cane please?) and get a new strategy ready for Machida. Not to mention the obvious rest factor. Machida, on the other hand, can possibly look into finding a new strategy, but I don’t know how he can win with the new “old” Shogun.
by n4tacon on Oct 31, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Page should come back so shogun can beat his a** again, id love to see that
by phenomenal angel on Oct 31, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be nice to see but Rampage the Asshole doesnt deserve to fight Shogun.
If he comes back he should start from the bottom.
by Lester The Pimp on Oct 31, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What we saw last Saturday was NOT the OLD Shogun, it was an entirely NEW SHOGUN! The NEW SHOGUN is much smarter and more patient than the Shogun of PRIDE. The OLD SHOGUN got completely schooled on the feet by Lil’Nog and had to use desperation TDs to keep Lil Nog from knocking him out. The Old Shogun would’ve come straight at Machida, guns blazing, and would’ve gotten counterstruck into oblivion. The NEW SHOGUN was smarter than that and patiently and almost flawlessly executed a brilliant strategy against a fighter everyone thought was untouchable. The OLD SHOGUN wouldve gassed by rd 3. The NEW SHOGUN got better with each successive round and looked like he could’ve gone another 5 when the fight was over. Forget his lackluster UFC career so far, forget his PRIDE glory days, this is a totally new fighter we’re seeing now, the best Shogun we’ve ever seen. One capable of leaving Machida in total bewilderment. That said, I think now that Machida knows that and has months to prepare for it, I think Shogun will have a much more difficulty beating Machida the second time.
by shonuff on Oct 31, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Considering Shogun blocked the punches really well, I’m not surprised about this injury.
by Hooner on Oct 31, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah it’s really those blocks that would hurt machida’s hands. punches to the face will not hurt someone’s hands like that unless they were huge punches which they were not.
by remedy on Oct 31, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when you guys say machitta will be more prepared how by changing his style of fighting if any of you know how machitta always fought it always been the same he does not like to be hit he uses karate still in all of his fight shogun won because his style is better than machitta.
by joey on Oct 31, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lyoto Machita=Jaime Varner. Shoulda lost and now has a hand issue. Machida Era my ASS!
by Yo Mammas Chin Whiskers on Oct 31, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czSTND6U6xA
says it all
by hatteras on Oct 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czSTND6U6xA
now show me a highlight of shogun against Machida and we will see who landed harder shots
by hatteras on Oct 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, now let’s see a highlight of shogun attacking machida only with no repeats, I bet it’ll be a longer video.
by phenomenal angel on Oct 31, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol if you want the Shogun highlights that’s all they were showing after each round and even after when he lost the decision. Did you watch the fight or just type in Machida highlights on youtube. If you did I don’t blame you its hard to watch your idol get outclassed for almost an entire fight. Its kinda like when the ufc was trying to hype jardine and they kept showing that one punch/slip that knocked houston alexander down before he got his ass whooped hahaha
by Kayo on Oct 31, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are u talking to me?
Shogun is my fav fighter, fyi I was there live so hold ur comments
That video is totally biased, has none of shoguns attacks on lyoto.
by phenomenal angel on Oct 31, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the vid could be biased but so is anyone who says shogun “clearly” won imo.
by theboydave on Nov 1, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see there be an interim light heavyweight title.
by vcamp on Oct 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see Shogun finish a top 5 fighter, before we start crowning him with anything.
by JoshuaThomas on Oct 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well he pretty much defeated the no 1 ranked guy in many peoples eyes.
I wanna see him avenge the forrest loss
But even if they decide to throw someone at shogun till machida heals, who can it be everyone has a scheduled fight and for time recovery it won’t be till a long time machida and shogun meet again.
Jardine, houston, bader, bonnar, kristoff but none are even up there yet, how bout a 3rd fight vs coleman
by phenomenal angel on Oct 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winner of Luiz Cane/Rogerio Nogueira. We either end up with an exciting new fight (Cane) or an exciting rematch (Lil Nog). Either way, a great fight.
by n4tacon on Oct 31, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he pretty much defeated the no 1 ranked guy in many peoples eyes.
Well in the eyes of the three people who mattered Shogun LOST!
by Tiger Mike on Nov 1, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun should fight winner of Rashad/Thiago in early 2010. Winner will be clear cut number one contender. After Spider knocks out Belfort almost untouched Shogun vs Spider would be a huge PPV draw.
by Cory B on Oct 31, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no, machida should have to fight one of those clowns to prove he deserves to be in the ring with shogun. get the hell outta here. shogun doesn’t need to prove he is the number one contender, he is the REAL CHAMP!!!!!!
SHGUN GETS ANOTHER CHANCE TO WIN HIS TITLE AND THEN MACHIDA HAS TO FIGHT THE NUMBER ONE CONTENDER TO DECIDE IF HE IS WORTHY OF ANOTHER SHOT.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 31, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida has to prove hes worthy of fighting Shogun?
Only one of these guys is the Undefeated Champion.
Shogun was HANDED a shot to start with considering the crap performances in the UFC so far, just like that punk ass bitch Cock Lesman.
by Morganti on Nov 11, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun wins next fight, end of story. Machida’s gimmick style is over.
by oskarbravo on Oct 31, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
first anderson ducked hendo with an injury and now machida is pulling the same card. machida is praying he can stall and have someone else knock shogun back down the ladder. the convenient injury is the best move the coming out of the spider/dragon camp nowadays.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 31, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahah yeah you’re are talking about to guys that are considered the best in the world, both of which are unbeaten in the ufc and are champions of there division hahahaha
yeah good move faking surgery…… you are retarded
SHOGUN LOST A UD plame CP all you want with his bad judging say it’s not the first time , but what about the other 2 Professional Judges that were ringside that also gave the fight to machida???? just cuz everyone wanted shogun to win , doesn’t mean he was robbed ! he gets an immediate rematch and opened alot of peoples eyes with this fight, given his last 3 fights were far from spectactular!!
by TheDragon on Oct 31, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don’t tell me Machida is hurt now.
This only makes things more suspicious.
by Vern on Oct 31, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here’s a solution for an immediate rematch: forget using hands. they should fight asap just using kicks. oh wait…
by remedy on Oct 31, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A lot of you are assuming it’s a broken hand. I don’t believe it’s confirmed yet. It might be a tendon or cartilage issue. He certainly didn’t look to be favoring the hand in the fight….unless I missed it. Whatever the injury is, it could also be a defensive injury (him trying to block a strike).
Nonetheless, it does give him more time to come up with a better gameplan for their 2nd match. I look forward to whenever that is. And for the record, Shogun’s hand should have been raised after that fight. Judges got it wrong. The argument for the challenger having to win convincingly to dethrone the champ is BS.
by sudnvictory on Oct 31, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for the record, Shogun was too scare to let’s his hands go…he didn’d throw much punches on machida….all he could do was throwning leg kicks and pin Machida against the fence…and fail to take him down if you ask me…
by Tim-chida on Nov 1, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is lame. It’s just more bad luck for Shogun.
by Vic De Zen on Nov 10, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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