I do agree that Rogan was pretty biased towards Rua for the entire fight and I’m sure that swayed a lot of people that were watching the fight on PPV but to watch it on mute would take away the blasting sound of Shogun’s kicks. I’ve never seen or heard kicks like that before and they were more devastating than any punch that Machida threw.

It was close Machida should not be apolagizing as far as the commentators I think they were more surprised like a lot of us that Rua was making it a close fight and made them sound biased Rogan himself believed that no one besides Silva could touch Machida at LHW before this fight.

I hope machida isnt going to be a shit champ like bj… I guess we will know what kind of champ he is after they fight in feb

If I was Macida, I’d be telling myself the same story.

Machida is biased? Say it isn’t so!

Mr. Machida: It is human nature to see what you want to see.

Well Joe Rogan was a Machida nut-hugger “Welcome to the Machida era” remember??

And i thought he was a Shogun hater as he was over the top during the Coleman fight saying how close Mark was to pulling out a win.

No reason for the commentators to be biased..they definately weren’t going into the fight.

Also most of the crowd didn’t hear the commentary and they made it clear they thought Shogun did enough to win

MACHIDA SHOULD STOP DRINKIN ALL HIS URINE AND GIVE A GLASS TO THE ATHLETIC COMISSION FOR DRUG TESTING CUZ HE’S HIGH AS A FUCKIN KITE IF HE THINKS HE WON 4 ROUNDS

Big Machida fan:

1st draw
2nd draw
3rd – machida lost most of the round and then finished very strong.
4th – rua
5th – rua

the fight was called so bad that i turned down the volume during the 3rd. still had rua winning 3-2, but people are getting carried away with this "robbery " stuff. and fightmetric scored bisping the winner of his fight with hamill so lets bring that up again. people should try re-watching the fight with the sound off, FOR REAL.. rogan called a horrible fight and i know that some fans(not all) were grealy influenced by it. it’s happened before in boxing and in mma.

I guess you can’t really expect a fighter to say that he didn’t deserve to win in a controversial fight..but come on..I know Rogan can be a little biased here or there, but it would’ve been for Machida. I can’t tell you how many times I have heard him say how Machida is the perfect fighter, does the most damage without taking any..I even recall the “welcome to the Machida era” comment from Joe…isn’t that a little biased too?

Fans there live might not have been biased by the commentating, but they were more than likely responsible for the end result as they chanted “Machida” for the first three rounds.

I’ve watched the fight a few times. I have no problem giving Machida the first three rounds.

Yeah, Shogun had a great gameplan and executed better than anyone else has against Machida. But I don’t think he did enough to be decisively be the new champ.

I watched it third time with Japanese commentators and still thought shogun won.

machida needs to stop drinking all his piss and save some for drug testing cuz he’s high as a fukin kite if he thinks he won 4 rounds

so they are gonna fight again when?

I watched it live and it really wasn’t that lopsided. The crowd was split 50/50 before the fight between fans of Shogun and fans of Machida. When the fight was over everyone was talking back and forth about who they thought won. It was never cut and dry that Shogun easily won.

When they announced the decision is mostly all the Shogun fans who booed. It doesn’t take many people booing to make it sound loud.

All that said, I don’t think either guy pushed the fight enough, especially in round 4. I would have thought it would be a split decision, with Shogun getting the nod.

kind of a neat face Shogun is making taking that punch to the head though….

the difference between the audio (Rogans love fest) may be the difference in you thinking whether Machida won or lose. Or it may be the difference between you thinking that Shogun dominating or Shogun simply winning, regardless it made an impact on the home audience.

Is it me or are Anderson and Machida starting to develope a holy than thou attitude?

Im suprised Shogun fought the way he did. Now i would love to see Rampage fight Shogun.

I’m glad he spoke up.. and thats exactly how I saw the fight. He did win and he will win again.

LOL

Ridiculous claim.

Many ppl have tried to sell the idea that Machida won. Still not buying it..

Yep, Machida won, and Gomi could knock out Penn. 10/27/2009 = opposite day apparently.

What’d Lyoto say at the end of the fight? “The judges scored the fight for me, so I’m sorry”, and “If we have rematch, I try again”. He knew he lost. Fucking bollocks. This fight still pisses me off. Rua was crying after the fight. Bollocks!!!

Who cares with what joe rogan says… we all have eyes don´t we ?? Off course shogun win the fight … with sound or no sound…Its time to have judges that really know mma.

Eh. Just have a rematch asap and end this madness.

I totally agree with Machida. He easily won the first 3 rounds and immideatly after he was given the decision i thought about how biased rogan was. I then watched it over again like 3 times without audio, and 3 of my friends watched it with me and it is clear that Machida won this fight.

Did anyone notice the acne on Shoguns back? I’m interested to see the results of his drug test.

Shogun needed to take Machida at the end of each round to seal each round. Machida can’t be finished, he runs way too fast and chasing him would only get knocked out. There no way Machida won that fight, it should have been a Draw. Machida don’t have to finish Shogun to stay the champ, Shogun needs to work on taking Machida down and unload visious GNP.

as much as i think shogun won the fight – i think it was a great fight and i hate to see all the former Machida fans jump off the bandwagon so quick

do you not remember the destruction he put on thiago silva and especially rashad evans?

im happy shogun finally was able to showcase his skill and the judges probably robbed him

but dont hate machida for justifying keeping his belt – it was a close fight

Ah yes…

The Michael Bisping defense….That ought to go well with the public.

Other interesting Machida tidbits from the interview:

-The Washington Nationals were the best team in baseball during the regular season

-Foxnews is liberal and MSNBC is conservative

-Steven Seagall is a great actor

Machida cleary lost, even if you have to “turn off certain senses” to try & rationalize him winning. The only thing that would make that fight “different” with the sound off would be the lack of the giant baseball bat-like “CRACK” that everyone heard every time Shogun kicked Machida in the ribs & legs, as well as the silencing of the boos that echoed through the arena from everyone who saw the fight (without this alleged Joe Rogan “biased” towards Shogun).
   Maybe we should watch the fight with our eyes closed too, so we can’t be “biased” by the sight of the giagantic welt on Machida’s floating rib, or the split, swollen lip, or the the way he was hobbling on stiff, swollen, salmon-red legs through rounds four & five from the constant, destructive leg kicks, or the look of utter deflation on his face before the decision, or the look of utter amazement on his face after the decision… would that help make for a better perspective, too? Please.
   Would Shogun have been smarter to press for a big finish in the final round? -Sure.
   Did Machida win that fight? -Ah, no.

i watched it without audio and so what?? ://

Machida sucks, he ran most of the fight. and shogun was hitting him still. Machida sucks I hope he goes on a serious losing streak and gets dropped from the ufc. I cant stand any of his fights.

LOL " I almost finished the fight 3 to 4 times LOL ya my ass machida. you ran in with a flurry which only a couple landed then hugged shogun once you got nailed with a punch.

i watched it without audio and so what???

Rogan was not being bias he was just telling it how the fight was for once. usually Joe Rogan is all over Machida saying " He so Elusive! when infact he is running.
Joe usually is the guy overhyping machida, but how can you over hype someone when he is clearly gettting beat up. lol Machida saying he wasnt that hurt..sure buddy go drink some more of your piss.

I know how to fix this, get rid of Rogan.

They should both demand the rematch ASAP and fix this mess. I want to see the rematch by Superbowl weekend. Im partially upset because Shogun new damn well that Machida was completely drained and dumbfounded by the 5th round and he should have went in for the kill. His corner was telling him that he was winning. They should have said you are winning but not by a large margin get a nice takedown with a little GNP and it will secure the win. The same flury that Machida KO’D Rashad with didn’t work on Shogun. I might have called the fight wrong but the part where i said that there was no way in hell that Shogun would get KO’D was right. I sort of wanted them to go to the ground to see who has better jits. If you watch the Thiago vs Machida, Machida clearly avoided the ground game makes me think if his jits is as good as people say it is. Either way good fight on both parties and im glad Shogun had his cardio back in control. Wether he fights Machida or not for his next figth i will still order his PPV.

Well here in Sweden we don’t get to hear Rogan, and i thought Rua won every round.

But maybe the swedish commentators were “biased” aswell?

Lmao.

Everybody’s making their arguments regarding the Machida Shogun fight. A rematch will be the best solution to all of these. Brock is out of UFC 106. Put the rematch there! Just kidding. But I do hope the rematch happens soon.

I was at the fight, didn’t hear Mike or Joe, and Shogun won the fight. Shut up Dragon

I’m boycotting playing as Machida because of that fight on the UFC game as a result until the rematch that is

WOW look at that, machida just pretty much quoted my comment on the recap page. ive said for years that joe and mike are biased(consciously or not)during a fight quite often, go watch a diego or bisbing fight with the sound on. i also said machida won the first 3 rounds. in terms of people booing, most are drunken idiots who know nothing about mma, and just wanna see blood and knockouts. the sound was off at the bar where i watched, and nobody bood when the decision was announced

The crowd didn’t hear the commentary and they seemed to think that Shogun got robbed. And as far as the comment goes that he had 3 or 4 opportunities to finish the fight…what fight was he watching? The only time I saw Machida really go after Shogun is when he backed Shogun up against the fence and took a big right for his troubles which made Machida go for the clinch.

Yeah try drinking your own piss then watch the fight and tell me who you think won the fight. I think all that urine has blurred his vision.

At least it was a decent fight. Dana screwed us on the card, throwing in Rothwell last minute and hyping him up on the preview show. 104, 103, 102, and 106 are brutal and this fck has the nerve to rip Strikeforce and who ever watches it. I will enjoy my overpriced ticket at 106 and then am only renting good cards from now on.

i was at the fight sho gun got robbed !

Cecil Peoples on scoring:

“First of all what you need to understand is that from where the judges are sitting, we get to see things that the fans at home may miss. Mauricio Rua was being aggressive but it wasn’t effective aggressiveness which is what we as the judges look for when scoring a fight. The way I saw it, Lyoto was landing the more cleaner and damaging strikes throughout the fight – if you take a look at the judging criteria clean strikes are valued more-so than the quantity of strikes landed. Although Rua threw a lot of low kicks they were not as damaging as Lyoto’s diverse attack in the earlier rounds which is why I scored the first three rounds for Machida. You have to keep in mind we always the favor the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don’t do that.

When both fighters are engaged in a striking match what I always look for is the fighter who is being judicious, picking his spots, being accurate and landing the cleaner strikes which ultimately is what Lyoto did more effectively than Rua. Lyoto made Shogun come after him, he determined where the fight took place which in my opinion constitutes as effective Octagon control. I recognize the fact that Rua did have a few takedown attempts during the course of the fight however Lyoto defended them all successfully which counts as effective grappling in his favor, where as unsuccessful takedown attempts are not scored at all. Therefore going by that criteria, I believe Lyoto won the fight clearly. I’m just glad the other judges on the panel saw it the same way and I’m sure the fans who understand the technicalities of the sport agree with the decision too."

You shogun bandwagoners throwing out the “the crowd didnt hear rogan and they knew whats up” are right you know. Remember its scored round by round; and who were they cheering and chanting for rounds 1, 2 and 3? thats right, machida.

Lets not bring up the crowd again please, it’s a stupid argument – we all know how a mass of people love to cheer on the underdog, also the last round (clearly ruas) left the most lasting impression for obvious reasons

even if you disagree with it try watching with a judges mindset, score nothing for take down attempts but give points for TDD (effective grappling) and consider machida to be controlling the octagon by leading rua (i know, it sounds bizarre but apparently its what they saw, i can see how they’d think it) also watch everytime rua lands a kick and how he takes a punch or two to the face for it

fight wasnt as boring as people made out either, i enjoyed the clash of styles.. interesting stuff

Does he drink his piss raw, or does he boil it first?

This fight reminds me a lot of Chuck Liddell vs Vitor Belfort, where Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg were all over Chucks nuts much like they were for Shogun in this fight. They yelled and screamed every time Shogun landed anything and when Machida would land a good shot they wouldn’t even acknowledge it. Im not saying that Machida won, but Rogan and Goldberg were both very biased.

Shgun only landed kicks in the 1st 3 rounds, machida had a shitload of punches that landed evan had shogun hurt. machida won.

First of all i was at the fight and i wanted lyoto to win but after the fight being in the stands with audio i thought shogun won for sure and i was rooting for macida so listen up you foooz i was at the fight with with no sound and going for macida and i thought shogun won for sure so shutup all of you saying turn your audio off shut the hell up because shoguns the real champion!!!!!

Dear lyoto,

no.

the fight was close… if shogun wants the title he has to finish lyoto… it’s simple…

People seriously fail if you think Rogan was biased IN THIS FIGHT….Why is Rogan going to call out every time Machida comes in and misses like hell??That wouldve been retarded….

Rogan:Ooo niice misses by Machida wow he just missed 4 and landed 1 AMAZING!!!

Does that make sense to anyone???Pretty sure it does not, thats why Rogan wasnt shouting out what Machida did because he didnt do shiiit, on the other hand Shogun was doing damage Machida stated it himself after the fight.

Machida STFU LOSER your gonna get pwnt hard in a rematch, you better hope for some of that Forrest Luck and have Shogun come in with another major injury…

I agree with Lyoto. I like Rogan. but he only commented on Shogun(as he did in Nog’s last fight) BUT, Rua won rd. 4 and 5.. after rewatching the fight I seerd 1,2 and 3 for Lyoto Machida. Shogun made rds 1-3 competitive enough that he could have won himself imo.

“majority of fans were hypnotized by the pro-Rua ramblings of Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg? Or has Machida been looking at the replay through urine-colored glasses?”-Jesse Holland
what a joke.

K iw watched the fight several times. It never changed, Shogun was the agresser and landed way more punches, kicks u name it. All you people who think Loyota won that fight where probably smoking the same shit the judges where. Thats not the first BS decision in the UFC and def not the last. Get off the CRACK!!! OR WHATEVER it is you all are sniffin or smoken. UFC had made Loyota there little Golden Fighter even before this fight and will continue to do so

Think it was the fight with Dimitri Wanderlei where he got all busted up – had to stop the fight for a cut over his eye…as close as Machida has ever got to a flat-out brawl.

I honestly dont think ROgan was bieng biased at all!!! I mean come on, this was the same guy that did the whole “Machida Era” deal. Look if it seemd that way, the only reason Rogan kept saying Shogun, this and Shogun that was becasue he was the one attacking and landing! When Machida did land, Rogan gave him his props too! Machida is an idiot for saying that. It just proves Shoguns name was said more becasue he was landing more. When Micheal Jordan scored 50 points in a game who knows how many times, his name was said over and over becasue he kept scoring, the commentators werent bieng biased. Its that simple .

Rogan does suck. He’s annoying.

If Machida thinks he won 4 rounds I can only assume his brain is fried from all the urine he drinks. I had him winning round 3 only.

When Machida’s name was read out as the winner you could see the utter shock on his face. He thought he lost the fight. Fighters always try to save face later by saying stuff like “well looking back at the fight I think I might have actually done enough”.

And then you get Bullshit from Cecil Peoples about Shogun’s strikes not being damaging compared to Machidas when Machida’s sides and legs looked like hamburger meat and he had to be iced down in between rounds.

SO NOW MACHIDA JUST HAS TO RUN AROUND & SURVIVE ALL THE ROUNDS THEN THE BELTS HIS FOREVER!!

well, i guess machida has no honor. he is finished. rua showed the world the gameplan and machida has lost the mental edge he had going into every previous fight. the dragon is slayable, in fact, he has already been slayed.

The look on Machida’s face when his name was read out as the winner is all you need to see to judge who won that fight. He looked like he had just found a naked Jessica Alba under his Christmas tree. Even Machida thought he got tooled. Obviously a few days later most fighters would try to save face by proclaiming that they actually thought they had really won the fight after all when you think about.

This fight was pretty much break even. But since lyoto is champ it goes to him. I think the main reason people see shogun as the winner is because Lyoto never had trouble with anyone before.It gets into our head that lyoto is struggling. Plus the last two rounds shogun won quite decisively but not 10-8 dominant. Last impression is what we remember.

I had Shogun definitively winning with or without sound but that aside, this was a boring fight. That’s the real story here. Both guys dicking around for 5 rounds.

To me Machida lost all 5 rounds as the fight went on after every round I would say wow machida is down 1 round,wow machida is down 2 rounds,that went on for the whole fight yeah 2 rounds were close but rua won in every round alot of people r sayin you got to beat the champ to be the champ that is absurd like d*locc says now machida gets to run around for 5 rounds get beat up not do anything back and still win the fight I have never been so sure of a decision like I was with this one everybody that says machida one is a machida nuthugger,personally I dont like either so dont say Im a shogun nuthugger but after seein him get robbed like that Im gonna be a fan I hope shogun destroys this urine drinkin paper champion whos also delusional if you ask me after hearing these comments

Why do people jump on Rogan all the time? He’s the best commentator in the bizz. He’s knows more about fighting that Trigg and he fights! And it’s his job to talk about the fight. Also, you get a better perepective of the fight when you’re that close.

I can’t believe that machida has the nuts to make such a rediculas statement, I have been doing a little research and found this about lyoto’s name lyoto loosely translated means kalib, the dragon in portugese when translated actually means running man and machida actually means starnes, do you see the similarities.
I was going to refrain from mocking machida but he obviously needs fucking glasses, I think all that urine drinking is clouding his mind. Machida you have no class, what a pathetic attempt at trying to get your nuthuggers on board, machida you suck.

ps, dana thought you lost and so did every other fighter except you bumbuddy

great point, right on! thanks mmamania

The people in attendance also seemed to feel Shogun won the fight and they couldn’t hear Joe or Goldie!

Most people just like me are still waiting for the 1st round KO that Machida was supposed to deliver…or the schooling. Anderson is next in line to fall! Come on Dana make Shogun vs Anderson happen.

For me its when they asked him (Machida) right after the fight and during the presser, if he won or not, and instead of saying yea I thought I won, he put up a good fight but I feel I was the better guy and I won, he instead said, well 3 judges said I won, so dont look at me. LOL

But hey, it is what it is. So looking forward to the rematch.

“This fight was judged by professionals, so I’m pretty much comfortable with the result.”

Cecil Peoples a professional? Professional what? Has the guy ever gotten a fight right? Off with Peoples’ head. That guy’s an f’ing nightmare for gamblers. Everytime they announce him as a judge on one of my wagered fights, I about sh*t my pants.

yes, because my eyes dont work. neither do the eyes of 99% of the people in the world watching.

Rounds are based on grappling, striking, agression, octagon control….
Machida won all 5 rounds grappling first of all..
I judge rounds by splitting them in half (2:30/2:30) who won the first half, who won the 2nd half of the round, if 1 half was pretty close, winner of other half gets the round…if its up in the air, then its anybodys, but i would give it to the champ (which will come later).
 I think, respectively, striking should be scored the highest of all other aspects, then agression/grappling depending on how the fight goes, in this case aggression had more of an impact than grappling, then octagon control.
i agree with Rylie how u can always tell who Rogans goin for…Goldie has a mind of his own, but this was a case of dbl bias.
However, i also strongly thought a lot opinions were altered due to all the hype given to machida…B4 the fight, the UFC made it sound like Machida was invincible (i.e. He is the least hit opponent in mma averaging only getting hit once every 2 rounds), i, myself thought it was goin to the championship rounds and told many people that its waaay closer than the poll told…13% for Shogun??? i gave it a 65% chance w/Machida which turned out closer than that.

1st rd. – Machida both halfs…strikes were pretty even, shogun got a few better landed, but the other aspects (A {aggression}, G {grappling, and OC {octagon control}) were all Machida…so u gotta give it to Machida.

2nd rd. – Was very close, i called it a draw for the first half of the round, and gave the edge of the 2nd half to Machida
because he was more dominant again on everything else…i did start giving the edge of striking (soley) by the end of the round to Shogun, but he wasnty clearly dominating the striking yet, so that in itself was not enough to take the round when he wasnt impressing me with the other aspects

3rd rd. – U could make a few arguments for Machida, but i thought the judges were off on the next 2 rounds.. Shogun was taking over striking in an efficient manner & starterd to surpass in the aggression aspect as well…(Note*none of the rounds were a 10-8), and as stated above…those 2 aspects were a strong part of this bout..even OC was more important than Grappling..So this shouldve been a round in favor of Shogun.

4th rd. – Now u could tell Machida’s legs were done at this point, but he was still being aggressive (which shows what a champ he is cuz he’s still attacking), i gave the A and G aspect to him, but Striking was still in favor for Shogun, and OC was swaying toward Shogun as well… and since i feel if its close like that i would favor Striking + any other aspect that is judged as the superior scoring: thus, i gave this to Shogun.

5th rd. – This was suppose to be the defining round…This is where Shogun needed to show he wanted the belt…Get out there and fuckin finish the rest of Machida (not just the left leg and left abdomen)..it didnt happen..Also b4 the round, it only showed Shogun’s corner, saying, “U Won, u Won”, meanwhile I heard thru the grapevine that Machida’s corner was telling him likewise as well, but thats what happens with camera men is they pick a corner to side on in each break between rounds..
This round was the closest of them all.. i could not really decisively say, “Yes, Shogun won that round or Yes, Machida took that round.” i broke it down in 2 halfs like i do….the striking was pretty even, but what upset me about Shogun is he never pulled the trigger…U have the champ hurt limping, barely leaning on his leg, and u dont pursue him? yet Machida was still giving the most valiant of efforts that a wounded warrior could attack with…I gave the A aspect to Machida again, OC was too close to call so i said even Stevens, G like i said was all Machida (and some might say there was none, there was a bit…the only edge Shogun had was when MAchida slipped and Shogun went for the takedown and Machida nullified it which voids it…a mistake/slip shouldnt deduct ones ponts..points should be awarded if the mistake was taken advantage of and granted Shogun tried, but couldnt…which showed that despite his leg and roast beef-looking abs, Machida was still capable of putting up a fight..
Then, there’s the Striking which Shogun shouldve tooken over, but it was close again..and as i said b4, strikes were pretty even, though Shogun had more snap to it (obviously) the number was close, and i wouldve given a slight edge to Shogun…
So where does that lead us?
-> A – MAchida, G – Machida, OC – Draw, S – Shogun, and i said above Striking + any other aspect = the round, but alas, the dilemma lies there…it comes down to
Striking vs. Aggression/Grappling, i say the round was a draw, and since u cant give it a 10-10..tie goes to the champ..
I know ill get the peeps that’ll say throw that Boxing BS out the window, but i think my judgment of the fight is more detailed reasonable and accurate than even the judges scorecards above…but i would hate to be the judge in this bout…cuz they dont have the time to break it down like us.. and i honestly thought Shogun was gonna take it that nite, but it wouldntve been impressive…I thought Rampage won the Forrest fight…but at least they both came very close on closing the deal..Forrest more dominant with the kicks AND guillotine choke, AND dominant ground position (in that fight round 2) whereas Shogun only gave Kicks and never sought to end the fight at all…Granted not at all Machida’s best performance, but enough to defend it with a lacksadaisy pursuit from Shogun.
i think the loss for Shogun is actually better cuz now he has way more support etc..and i believe the rematch will be better and will go to the ground!
-Ruda

Nope same fight. maybe if you take away my sense of smell it will be different!

BEST COMMENT EVER!

UFC should do fight rematches that went the full rounds and were contriversial and call it…

The second half.

As much as I wanted my boy Shogun to win (been a nuthugger since pride days, just hardly blog) he lost. Its true what Machida says, watch it without audio and its a much dif. fight. Goldie and Rogan talk about Shogun winning the entire time. I think people were just surprised to Machida actually get hit as much as he did, so they felt he was losing. Sure he got tagged more in this fight alone then he has his entire career, but I feel he still etched out the win. Shogun never had Machida in trouble but there were a few times that Shogun was back peddling or up against the fence on potentially on the verge on being finished. People were all about Shoguns big body kicks because they made a lot of sound, but at the same time nobodies paying attention to Machida tagging him each time. I replayed each and time they exchanged and sure Shoguns connecting with those body shots but Machida catching him with the punch too.

I agree with the call, I’ve got Machida winning the first 3 rounds and Shogun coming on at the end to take the next 2.

Ya I watched at a BWW in Houston couldnt even hear it was so loud in there.. and everyone was shocked when Lyoto won except for the ones who were talking shit about how Lyoto would smash Shogun but before the descion they were quite as hell

I normally lurk; however, I have to say, I watched the entire fight (and the whole card actually) without the benefit of Audio, as I was at Staples. I can’t comment on what the fight looked or sounded like on the PPV, but I didn’t have sh!tty seats (on the floor) and from where I sat I watched Shogun beat Machida up for rounds 3-5.

I don’t think the entire crowd would have reacted as they did if it was as close a decision as Lyoto thinks it was. It’s not like they were broadcasting Joe and Goldie’s commentary over the PA. All we heard was buffer’s intro and the sounds of the fight.

-Chris

P.S. I’m a total Machida mark. I was really disappointed he wasn’t more aggressive in this fight (but I understand why not…he was up against Shogun…I, for one, welcome an immediate rematch)

To the people who said about the crowding booing Machida and that evidently shows that Lyoto is wrong in his analysis is BS! I was there at the fight and you have no idea how many people attending were not educated in MMA or is even a fan of this sport. There was a row of chicks behind me and may I add, annoying as F**K, had no clue why they were cheering and they seemed really happy and drunk to do so.

To add to Lyoto’s comment, I do agree it is a much different fight when there is no commentary.

Even popular fighters like Anderson Silva get booed with victories; Cote and Thales fights. So no surprise here.

Poor, poor Lyoto all he had to do was keep his mouth shut and ride out the media storm
until the UFC announces the rematch but instead he decides to actually justify this ripoff by blaming biased commentary. Unfortunately when he watched the replay he didn’t bother to notice the stunned look on his own face when he was announced the winner or the fact
shogun showed little to no damage on his face and body compared to lyoto’s trashed legs and cut face. Sometimes it’s just better to just take the gift and run.

machida just rode off on his fans’ excuse blaming the commentating team for the backlash the decision is getting, short of saying that 90% of home crowd & 99% of arena crowd that includes Dana of course) have no brains of their own and just agrees to rogan & golberg. haven’t been to a live event but its only now that i learned they can also hear the commentary…

hhmm thats interesting cause i was there in the arena not hearing any audio, and everyone in that goddamn place thought that shogun should’ve won.

Regardless of each sides arguments Just look at there facial expressions when they announced the results.Shogun was happy and pumped and Machida was depressed looking with his head down and totally surprised his name was called like he had just won the lottery.Machida knows in his heart he lost and if he was a real man of honor he would personally deliver it to Shogun.

They will rematch again on Jan 2. Shogun will kick his ass even more. Anyone that thinks that Machida won needs to get their eye’s checked.

He is UFC’s biggest wuss champion running away all the time with his sissy Karate style and actually believing that he won the fight.

That run away dummy is going down Jan 2nd

People should definitely watch the fight again regardless, WITHOUT biases. And watch with an intelligent mindset, not a mma junkie mindset.

i actually watched the whole show without audio thanks to the so called “sports bar” i went to and i could see shogun rua winning the bout as almost everyone else, then when i got home i watched it with the mexican commentators and it was pretty much the same impression… then i watched it once again with joe rogan and mike goldberg and i have no doubts that even though it was a close fight, shogun should’ve taken the belt…

After the first round, my brothers and I looked at each other, “10-10,” we both said simultaneously.

When rounds are a dead heat, they go to the champion. Rua might have done enough to win a 3 rounder, but not enough to take the belt.

MMAFan1981 have the best (and right) comments about this fight

MMAFan1981 is totally right

Joe Rogan was kissing Rua’s butt.

Speakers turned off. Machida won 123 and 4 was very close I gave it to Rua only because Machida gassed out. 5 is for Rua.

Tally 123 – Machida, 45 – Rua

How come no one is mentioning that Machida only sustained those cuts in the 5th round, when you look that picture where he has his arms around shoguns butt defending the takedown his face has no cuts

Rogan made me sick.
Even when a kick was blocked/missed/glancing blow he was making it sound like a devastating shot. Same thing I said in the fight thread when it was over. He’s usually pretty good at calling fights, but in this one he was just a failure. Totally biased. Rua stood around waiting too much.

There is no doubt that Goldberg and Rogan have puppylove for Rua. That’s the first thing I noticed in the first round, and by the second round it was obvious that they seemed to see Rua’s strikes while practically ignoring Machida’s. It was love, I tell ya! These guys were in love with Rua.

YOU GOD DAM RIGHT I THOUGHT THE SAME THING…..SERIOUSLY JOE RO IS NO JERRY LARLER (WWF) AND IT WASNT FUNNY HEARING HIM SAY RUA/ DELIBERATELY REPEAT RUA…..ONNA NOTHER NOTE, RUA IS THE SHITHOUGH. POOOAHW

so does takedown defense count for anything?

Joe Rogan has become a running joke amongst my friends who watch UFC.

“Who will Joe cheer for this time?”

“OMG, Joe’s going nuts! Someone probably pulled guard.”

Joe Rogan’s opinion shouldn’t matter. As with any controvertial fight, there is always going to be people looking for reasons why their favorite fighter lost/won. As some of you guys said, watching the fight on mute may change your perspective on the decision.Either way, a rematch is destined!

Joe Rogan does it again! His biased comments blinded everyone in MMA! hahaha…

He was biased also with some previous fights…tsk tsk tsk….Joe dont be biased! Or else get out of MMA! :P

Rematch may have to wait, there are so many waiting in line to kick Machida’s ass….Thiago Silva’s one of ’em! hahah…

At least now, fight fans know the solution to counter the mystery of machida karate!

Word to Lyoto, you’ll have to reinvent yourself or else next fight, you’ll lose your belt, definitively. :P

Congrats to Mauricio, you’re back in fighting form! We missed your ferocity from Pride! TBH, i thought it was long gone! :D