pat barry earned alot man!

If shogun had been given the nod, the main event would surely have been given the fight of the night bonus! Sh*tty judges cost both of them 60k. That hurts if your Shogun, lost the belt and 60k as a result of doing what no one believed he could do and defeating the guy previously considered #1 @ 205 and in talks for p4p…

Tho it seemed slow or boring, seeing machida vs shogun live was extremely intense.
Loved it.
Pat berry is sick definatley great fight

Vegas and the “Machida Er-ror” really screwed people.

for those who have been to a live ufc event, are the hosts’ voices (rogan) broadcast to the audience? i watched the ppv, but scored the fight at the least 3-2 shogun. i’m curious how rogan’s commentary affected my decision. i’m usually good about being objective and not letting the commentary getting to me. that why im wondering if the audience heard anything (because they sure as hell boo’ed at the decision too).

Hello to all my fellow Shogun fans….today is a good day!!!!!!
Cain also showed he is the real deal altough Ben impressed me.
Welcome to the Shogun era!!!!!

never impressed me

I’m not going to repeat my points on Machida-Shogun as that fight has been discuseed to death so instead I’m focusing on the other fights.

Rumble’s an idiot, that Yoshida fight was a mismatch the size difference would have been acceptable if he’d have made weight but he was 6lbs over the limit. That fight was effectively a MW v a WW and as soon as Johnson came in overweight I knew that this fight would be like Alves-Hughes, where the bigger man has extra muscle and destroys his opponent. He didn’t deserve any bonus because of that, beating a small WW when you can’t make weight is not impressive. The fact that he bashed Machida-Shogun for their fight makes me dislike him even more, those two are disciplined athletes who fought for 25 minutes and pushed each other to the limit, not some wifebeating thug who can’t even make the weight.

I knew Cain would win, he’s a world class wrestler and doesn’t get the credit that he deserves. He may not have the strongest hands in the division and has a silly tattoo but he is still a class act who gets better every fight. He was always going to take Ben down at will and ground and pound him to death. The stoppage was justified because of the damage but the timing was ridiculous and all it did was undermine Cain’s win. Hopefully he fights a top contender next for the title shot, I’d like to see Cain-JDS and Big Nog-Mir/Kongo.

Huge win for Sonnen, so much for Okami getting a title fight. He may be a boring fighter and personality but you can’t take anything away from a win over a top contender like Okami. After the Miller and Okami wins, Chael should get a top 10 fighter at the least as his next opponent.

Im losing faith in MMA. Im shocked that Lyoto was handed victory. I have seen every UFC in the history of the UFC and last night my faith in it was rocked with that decision, I dont know man!!!!!!!!

Come on guys! How can you expect DETHRONING A CHAMPION only by kicking him in the leg and not even having him limb or fall or knocked down…

when I talk about dethroning a champ, I understand what lyoto did to rashad, st. pierre to hughes etc.

it is not champ’s responsibility to bring it, it is the challenger’s responsibility – to prove himself that he EARNED it and leaving no doubt..

even GSP became boring after winning the belt.. think about it, he became a wrestler.. no knockout or submission ever since.. why? because he is defending..

IMO shogun did not earn it.. machida is still the champ…

So Dana says Johnson isn’t eligible for KO of the Night bonus because he missed weight.

But guess who got KO of the Night bonus at UFC 85? Thiago Alves, after KO’ing Matt Hughes and MISSING WEIGHT.

Nice.

In my opinion, you can only be outmatched for so long before you have to give the opponent the win, and Shogun outmatched Machida. Whether you’re karate chopping their forearm or taking your leg and stomping the living crap out of their head, if you’re doing it so repetitively and your opponent can’t stop or contend with you…. Then you win.

Machida couldn’t stop the leg kicks, only a couple were blocked. When Machida struck with punches, like Machida did to Rua, the majority of the punches were countered. I saw maybe 3 leg kicks by Machida, 2 of which connected, and as far as punches go he had to charge forward to land them… Which usually resulted in what I believed to be Rua’s victory. Machida landed minor punches, and little to none legs and knees. Rue countered Machida multiple times, devastingly destroyed Machidas legs and ribs, and came out with stronger punches in every exchange.

I’m sorry, “Need to defeat the champion to win…” That statement doesn’t exist when it’s pretty obvious he was defeated. Machida countering two of Rua’s takedown attempts, attempts that resulted in an against the wall, knee and leg kick bashing to Machida’s legs and ribs…. Does not give Machida a win.

Terrible decision, and I’m assured Dana White upholds some responsibility in it due to the high market franchise Machida’s reputation can bring to the UFC as a champion. Pathetic.