DREAM 12 results and discussion thread for Oct. 25 event

The "Cage of the Rising Sun" is now officially in the books. DREAM unveiled its white, hexagonal cage for the inaugural caged fight card in promotional history.
The implication of the event on the future of the promotion and Japanese MMA will unfold in the coming days, weeks, and months: For the time being, DREAM 12 delivered a fist full of action in Osaka-jo hall.
DEEP veteran, Tomoya Miyashita and fast-rising ZST prospect, Keisuke Fujiwara experienced a milestone moment as they became the first two fighters to step into the brand new cage.
Miyashita and Fujiwara kicked off the night with a fast-paced grappling action. In the first and second rounds, Miyashita scored the takedown and kept his foe on the ground, switching periodically to side control and half guard. Fujiwara kept Miyashita in check with upkicks when Miyashita postured up and defended well from submission attempts. In between positional transitions, Miyashita flattened Fujiwara with knee kick on the ground.
The third round proceeded in a similar fashion until Fujiwara locked in a tight triangle choke with two minutes left – he seemingly turned the table the most emphatic finishing attempt in the fight. Much to his dismay, he ultimately fell short as Miyashita survived and took a unanimous decision victory.
In the second fight of the night, UFC veteran and Cage Force lightweight champion, Kuniyoshi Hironaka, squared off with the Korean prospect, Won Sik park.
Hironaka had his takedown attempt stuffed while he and Park tested the water on the feet throughout the first round. Park started to find his rhythm toward the end of the round, countering Hironaka’s leg kicks with quick jabs. He landed a stiff counter with right hand and a punishing knee to the body as Hironaka back pedaled to the cage.
The round ended with Park’s taking rein of the stand-up exchange. Then, in a puzzling turn of event, Park’s corner threw in a towel, forcing the bout to end with an anticlimactic TKO victory for Hironaka. It appeared that Park sustained an eye injury that has rendered him unable to continue.
Yoshiro Maeda emerged triumphantly in a "survival match" between two fighters in desperate need for an emphatic victory.
Maeda opened the first round with stinging punch-kick combos. He used the nimble movement he has honed from his days as a ping pong whiz in secondary school to piece together multiple-punch combos followed by a kick. Beebe failed to capitalize on his lone takedown as Maeda got back to the feet with the aid of the cage. Maeda then returned fire with a takedown of his own – he pushed Beebe toward the cage and postured up to rain down hard punches. Then, in one swift transition, he took Beebe’s back and sank in a tight rear naked choke.
The jubilant Maeda expressed his gratitude to the hometown crowd and appealed for his slot in the New Year’s Eve Dynamite! Show.
On the other hand, former WEC bantamweight champion, Beebe, continues to be plagued by the recent spell of losses and mishaps: He has lost his fifth straight bout, including his controversial split decision loss to Mike Easton at UWC that was recently overturned to No Contest.
To the delight of the citizens of the Dong-bar nation, Korean judoka Dong Sik Yoon snapped his three-fight losing streak by edging out Team Quest prospect, Tarec Saffiedine. Saffiedine, a last-minute replacement for Paulo Filho whose whereabouts remains unknown, controlled the first round with crisp strikes on the feet. After repeatedly stuffing Yoon’s takedown and holding his own in the clinch, he maintained his momentum to begin the second round.
Finally securing a single-leg takedown, Yoon initially struggled to advance the action from the half-guard. After a scramble, Yoon took the back and worked for a twister. In the most thrilling portion of the fight, Yoon threatened to cork Saffiedine’s neck off with neck crank and rear naked choke attempts and ended the second round with a barrage of punches from the back mount.
After a lackluster third round, Yoon walked away with a split decision victory.
In the showdown between two pro wrestlers, Katsuyori Shibata faced his pro wrestling idol, Tokimitsu Ishizawa.
In an action-packed round, both fighters kept busy with a spirited albeit ungainly punching exchange. Shibata landed a left hook flush on Ishizawa’s chin with thirty seconds left and followed up with a flurry of pound to finish off his opponent.
Japanese MMA demigod, Kazushi Sakuraba returned for the second time this month and earned another quick submission victory -- this time against Croatian striker, Zelg Galesic.
After circling around briefly to kick off the first round, Sakuraba changed level to grab Galesic’s ankle for a takedown and immediately transitioned into a heel hook and then Achilles lock. Galesic showed a flash of his grappling prowess to wriggled free and reverse position. Sakuraba persists and works for toe hold but Galesic pounds away from the back. Galesic remained relentless with the punches; with his face badly swollen, Sakuraba snuck a knee bar. Galesic grimaced in pain and tapped out, sending the crowd at Osaka-jo hall into elation over Sakuraba’s victory.
DREAM Welterweight champion, Marius Zaromskis again demonstrated the dynamic striking prowess that took him to the apex in the DREAM welterweight grand prix.
In a non-title bout against Myeon Ho Bae, he kicked off the round with a hyper-acrobatic jump kick. After absorbing a left hand counter from Bae, he backed away and several seconds later, unleashed a lightening quick left head kick to shut off Bae’s light -- another stunning high kick KO and déjà vu from his recent past.
DREAM lightweight grand prix semifinalist and Bellator FC champion, Eddie Alvarez showed his trademark grit and unveiled another glimpse of his continuous evolution into a formidable fighter.
In the semi-final event of the night, Alvarez found himself in trouble early as a botched takedown attempt trapped him in Kikuno’s standing crucifix. Seemingly wilted from escaping the submission, Alvarez looked more sluggish than usual throughout the first round, as he landed several swinging hooks but absorbed his opponent’s hard body kicks. In the second round, the back-and-forth action continued with both fighters connecting in a striking exchange. As the action started to slow, Alvarez passed Kikuno’s guard on the ground and locked in an arm-triangle choke, forcing Kikuno to tap.
With the victory, Alvarez improved to 19-2, continued to cement his status as a top flight lightweight, and notched the fourth consecutive submission victory.
In the final event of the night, Overeem continued his winning streak amidst his trek outside Strikeforce. His opponent, James Thompson suffered his fifth straight defeat and continued his devolution into a curious relic from the Pride FC era.
Thompson kicked off the round with his trademark "gong rush." Not falling into his same old trick, Overeem moved out of the way, and seconds later, launched a flying knee kick that almost vaulted him over the cage wall. After several clumsy attempts at landing punches and takedowns, Thompson got trapped in Overeem’s standing guillotine choke: A quick and unsurprising victory for the Strikeforce Heavyweight champion came at 0:32 of round one.
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can’t even get excited for this event. i was so pumped after the main event and i was like yes SHOGUN did it everyone in the room agreed and than of course the fucked up judges gave MACHIDA….. the win even tho he LOST. this isn’t boxing you don’t have to dominate the champ to get the belt, all you have to do is win the fight and SHOGUN did that. he dominated lyoto with his kicks and even landed a solid shot in the forth, machida got two good flurries in but when you look at the whole round shogun still would have won it. it almost sickens me to be giving money to the ufc when as a fan you see screw jobs like this. in the 104 discussion thread 90% of the people said that they felt shogun won… if there isn’t some form of justice and get the decision overturned or an instant rematch(which lyoto could win now that he knows shoguns gameplan) i won’t pay for another event again.
by jared on Oct 25, 2009 1:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When you leave it to the judges that will happen even though I feel like you and I thought Sho scored more it was close and a great chess match of a fight that was left in the judges hands and as much as think we are the majority a decision the other way would have many critics too. Sho did enough to get another shot and I’m happy with that.
by Beaver on Oct 25, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much every time Shogun landed a kick Machida landed a punch. I think that people were too busy getting excited about the fact that Shogun didn’t gas and actually managed to land something that you couldn’t see how close this was. Having said that I was REALLY impressed with Shogun and how much he has improved, but there is no way in hell he out struck Machida as bad as everyone on here is saying. I had Machida just edging the first three and Shogun winning 4 and 5.
by Alex on Oct 26, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude. Watch it without Rogan. R 1, 2, and 5 are complete toss ups. R 3 was Machida,s, R4, Rua’s.
Every body kick Rua landed, Machida (mostly) countered and hit him Rua in the face through his guard. He also landed over 10 straight knees to Rua’s stomach. (Not counting the flurry at the very beginning of the fight). Rogan was very biased.
by jimmy on Oct 25, 2009 2:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dude read every play by play, everyone i’ve read even called a shogun decision. i trust mmamania and sherdog alot more than i trust your decision. not to mention i have my opinion and its with the play by plays.
by jared on Oct 25, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was a good fight, Rua definetly won, statisticly and it was plain to see because he had an answer for every attack Machida threw by the third round, and dominated from third on,the first and second round where close, almost even.
by TysonLeeHarris on Oct 25, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
buddy i did watch it without the rogan commentary….couldn’t tell you anything he said. I do know for a fact that Shogun won that fight, NO QUESTION. Machida did nothing substantial to win that fight. He did not push the pace and most of his counter punches MISSED and Shogun capitalized the majority of the time. Nobody can dispute that Shogun was the aggressor in the fight and landed the more significant shots.
How do people say Machida won that fight? is it not based on ring aggression, octagon control etc?
Did Machida ever show any ring aggression accept with counter punching…DON’T FORGET HE MISSED SOOOO MANY PUNCHES/KICKS WHILE TRYING TO COUNTER. and Shogun landed manyyyy more kick than Machinda, also with more substantial damage.
Bottom line…Shogun pushed the pace and there is no possible way that Machida won that fight under the 10 point must scoring system. Absolute robbery, no other way to put it. Just dissapointing to see this in the UFC, i thought they were better than this but apperently not lol
by Blunt N' Beer on Oct 25, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what happened last night was a disgusting travesty. Just terrible. TO me it was the absolute worst moment in the history of the UFC. Machida knew he lost, Dana knew it, the crowd knew it, and Bruce Buffer knew it, Notive when he announced the winner, he never said: “and STILL Champion”! He couldnt even say it!
Props to shogun for rising to the occasion putting on a memorable performance. Props to him for even after getting robbed HE SHOWED THE SAME CLASS AND HONOR THAT HE ALWAYS SHOWS!!! Lost a little respect for my boy Machida last night. I thought he had more class then that. If I were him I would have given shogun the belt or at least rasied his hand.
IMO Shogun is the champion today, and the UFC is just basically giving machida an immediate rematch!
Still think Forrest beat Shogun? Still think injuries are excuses? Still think Shogun peaked a while ago? Still think he isnt Phenomenal? Still think he needs roids to have good cardio? Dont hop on the bandwagon now!
by john G on Oct 25, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS IS THE DREAM THREAD!!!!!!
If you havent’ seen the Sakuraba fight or the Marius Z KO then you need to get on it right now!!!
by ViolentMike on Oct 25, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too sick to watch mma right now! lost a ton on Shogun!
by john G on Oct 25, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
vm saw whitemares headkick that dude is so impressive, and alvarez fought a war solid fights!!!
by Jared on Oct 25, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marius is the man, 3 times he’s won with sick head kick KOs. I’m officially declaring him as our best MMA export even though technially he’s not even British. I can’t believe he got beat by Che Mills twice, either he’s evolved a lot since those defeats or Mills is his Hallman. The UFC dropped the ball letting this guy go to Dream and pushing rubbish as British posterboys (Bisping, the UK card cans, Grove, Al-Turk), even Hardy and Semtex aren’t as impressive as Marius.
by David W-S on Oct 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re going to try to make your point, at least the close rounds correct. The only rounds that were even remotely debatable were the first 3. Round 4 was decisive for Shogun, along with 5. The round that you gave Machida was also a toss up.
by Jono on Oct 25, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fight was a toss up. shogun seemed to push it on at the end of the fight. everyone at my house including myself felt shogun won the fight. personally wasn’t at all surprised that machida got the nod, the fight was close enough that i felt the judges wouldnt allow the belt to switch hands in such a close fight.
on a side note, just found out i get HDNet which shows Dream 12! Hopefully these fights will take my mind of 104’s main event and knowing of the drama will the be come as a result of 104.
by pwilson on Oct 25, 2009 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rewatched the fight muted. Rnd 1 toss up, Rnd2 Shogun, Rnd3 Machida, Rnd 4-5 Shogun. I think Shogun won but it was alot closer while watching it with Rogan screaming everytime Shogun lifted his leg. Machida got beat…plain and simple.
by knowone on Oct 25, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The compustrike showed Shogun outstriking Machida nearly 2-1, he was the aggressor and did the most damage.
I couldn’t hear the commentary while I watched the fight. But I’m pretty sure Joe Rogan talked up Shogun’s performance because of how he performed. He didn’t outfight Machida, just ’cuz Joe Rogan said so.
by MongoMan on Oct 25, 2009 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, Rogan was telling it like it is; not only that, everyone thought Rua was going to get steam rolled, so of course when he goes in there and out strikes Machida it’s understandable that Joe was surprised/excited about the performance. I for one loved the fight, Shogun showed everyone that Machida isn’t on par with the legends that A. Silva or GSP are; Machida war wagon just got derailed imo.
WAR SHOGUN
by O damn he got caught on Oct 25, 2009 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jimmy, your right dude. Joe Rogan only ever spoke about Shogun, like everytime a kick came in, sometimes not even landing, Machida punches Shogun in the face everytime, but everytime Rogan is sayin how amazing the kick was (they were kicks, but they were not as powerful as they were made to look, Shogun is no hardonk).
Shogun turned on the kicks in this fight but i never saw Machida limping for more than 2-3 seconds after it landed. Nothing like how people feel vera’s kicks – people wobble and you can see in their face they want to quit. machida was coming forward all day long, shoguns kicks were just not hard enough.
by Insain on Oct 25, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida looked sluggish in the championship rounds, you could see the damage the kicks had done to him, it took away his footwork and kicks and at that point Shogun had the fight in the bag, very bizarre decision but at least there’s going to be an immediate rematch. I do agree that Rogan was biased though, everytime Shogun did anything he started screaming it was really distracting.
by David W-S on Oct 25, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow Jimmy you watched with the sound off to not get a biased decision??LMAO
Agression was what should have won that fight. Macheesda just ran like a scared little girl
by budsykind on Oct 25, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about this at this point?? Maybe they have blind judges in Japan too!!
by Slam City on Oct 25, 2009 2:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lmao NNR^ i don’t think a single question mark comment has ever been more warranted than that one you just blessed us with.
by Blunt N' Beer on Oct 25, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I care and quite sure most real MMA fans who enjoy watching great fights!
by pwilson on Oct 25, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright so i think NNR question mark was at the absurdity of Slam City’s post because i fully agree with you pwilson. Judges are mass important, they did just rob my boy Shogun of the belt!!!
If NNR was agreeing with Slam City, then i hate to say it, but i lost all respect for him :P
by Blunt N' Beer on Oct 25, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NNR…What’s up buddy? What’s your thoughts of DREAM 12?
by Alpha Male on Oct 25, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven’t seen you around alpha. Well i thought i was a great show. Saku did his thing and the refs still keep on letting him take massive beatings. But i was very impressed with that single. For a man with no knees, that was as explosive as you could get. Overeem simply did his thing nothing surprising there. Maeda – i was happy with the way he handled himself on the bottom. Stayed a bit patient then exploded out Faber style. Excellent offense but we always knew that. We didn’t get to see any of his defense though. Kikuno impressed me a lot though – Great defensive wrestling, he was still getting tagged upstairs but he was doing a decent job of throwing punch/kick combos. Showed a good chin. He was tearing up eddie’s body. I was kinda surprised by his grappling game though. Maybe he was just way too gassed from defending the guillotine but i would think that a protege of my boy TK would be a good grappler.
by NameNotRequired on Oct 25, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah! Who cares about karate? They’re all blind in Japan anyway.
by MongoMan on Oct 25, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All in all not a bad event. Didn’t think I would like the cage at first, but didn’t really make a big difference, Dream fights are still awesome. Overeem vs Thompson is forgettable, but it was a tune-up fight and he fought last weekend.
I was hoping Kikuno would come out victorious, love the guy’s style, his karate style is much more entertaining to watch than Machida’s, all because of that devilish grin. Saku looked good as well, good fight.
by Belisarius on Oct 25, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can complain about it all we want, but the only thing we can do from here is look forward to an immediate rematch in the near future.
And guess what, we’ll be even more hyped up about it because of the controversial decision. So let’s just sit back, watch Fedor for FREE and Couture for FREE in the month of November.
If we don’t see a rematch, then I’ll be seriously ticked.
by SupaflySteve on Oct 25, 2009 2:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aggression =Shogun
Octo Control =Shogun
Effective STriking =Close but id favor Shogun
Takedowns(none from both)
Subs(none from both)
According to the way fights are SUPPOSED to be scored in THE UFC ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR SHOGUN TO HAVE LOST THE FIGHT.
Shogun didnt need stiches after the fight…..Machida did…
WATCH THE REPLAYS Machida didnt land half of his ‘flurries’ he came in and hit 1-2 times, yes it looked nice but looking nice and landing effective strikes are two very different things.
by Khaos_Warrior on Oct 25, 2009 4:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
most of his strikes hit nothing but forearm, he very rarely got through; watch the instant replay on the flurry’s and you’ll see that he wasn’t landing anything clean; I agree w/ you on that one.
by O damn he got caught on Oct 25, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, thats not the way fights are judged.
Its a round by round basis. So..overall, maybe Shogun was winning his rounds more impressively, but Machida just won more rounds.
by WholeMilk on Oct 25, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love machinda as a fighter, but also am a big shogun fan. I went out on a limb at work and bet against machida with some of my buddies mainly just because they didnt know who shogun was, which really iriatated me. Anyway one of the worst ufc decisions in ufc history. Right up there with bisbing hamill if you ask me. Anyone who says machida won that fight is a fool and is just trying to get some attention and make real mma fans pist
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by Gusto on Oct 25, 2009 5:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some good fights on Dream, Alvarez and Sakaraba made great comebacks. After almost getting submitted in the first round with a painful crucifix that seemed to bother him for the rest of the fight, Eddie showed real grit and improving BJJ to submit Kikuno. And as for Sakaraba what more can you say about the man, he was getting beaten up badly by Galesic and was close to being stopped, his hero status and reputation for surviving beatings pretty much the only thing saving him, only for him to submit Galesic with a beautiful heel hook. That fight showed why he is Japan’s biggest star in the sport, he is the Japanese Big Nog and even well past his prime he can still take a beating, survive, and submit his opponent.
As for Overroids-Thompson the less said the better, once again Alistair smashed a can who had no business being in the same hexagon as him, the fact that Alistair caught James with a standing guillotine says it all really. It baffles me how he can take K-1 so seriously and take joke opponents in MMA, yet he allegedly is more bothered about competing in MMA than K-1.
by David W-S on Oct 25, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
David, Alistair doesn’t really preferred fighting in K-1, he had contract disputed with Strikeforce in 2008 and he fought else where during that time. In fact, he fought 4 times in 5 months. This year he was getting on track to comeback fighting in the States when another problem appeared…(M-1 Global). Since then, well he fought 2 fights in 8 days. It doesn’t matter in my eyes where he fight (MMA or K-1) he’s got more balls than a lots of fighters. No need to keep blasting the guy with those roids allegations or for his choice of opponents IMO. Sometime you got to take what’s available on the market if you want to stay active.
I think that now is the time for him to get a big fight though. Maybe Verdum or Fedor.
The first part of your post was spot on though. Glad to see you part of the minority who watched the fights last night.
by Alpha Male on Oct 25, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alpha, it’s been an MMA day for me, catching up on 104 and Dream 12. The only MMA we get over here, other than the occasional British card or Strikeforce repeat on obscure channels, is the UFC. I’m up for watching any MMA so I’m always watching the videos online as soon as they’re posted. Dream always put on sick fights and you’ve got to love the Aussie announcer, Schiavello always cracks me up.
As for Overroids I’m sick of him facing piss poor competition abroad, he blatantly does it to avoid getting testing. I’ve got nothing bad to say about him K-1 wise but fighting the likes of Sylvester and Thompson is a waste of time and won’t help him improve at all, instead it just taints his record. There’s been too many dodgy pull outs of fights for my liking in the US and any champion who doesn’t defend his belt should be stripped, the fact that he’s had it for 2 years and not defended it once is a joke and makes Strikeforce look as small-time as Dana claims that it is. I support all MMA promotions that put on good fights but I can’t defend the way that Strikeforce deal with their champions and that has always been their weakest point as an organisation in my opinion.
NNR, that flying knee was crazy. I don’t like Overroids but he is a freak of nature, I’ve never seen someone almost jump over a cage in the middle of a fight. He’s talented but the steroid accusations aren’t going to go away until he fights in the US and passes a test. Personally I don’t think that his inflated physique is natural at all and the fact that he hasn’t fought in the US since bulking up backs up my suspicions. I doubt that he has any intentions in defending his belt against Fedor, Grim or Werdum whatever him or his manager claim.
As for Eddie and Sakaraba they both impressed me as they had the heart and experience to get out of trouble and knick a win. Kikuno and Galesic both performed better but in the end they were beaten by 2 men who are great at overcoming adversity, if you can finish a fight without performing at your best and being in big trouble of losing then you have the heart of a champion and you’ve got to respect that.
by David W-S on Oct 25, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see the athleticism when he went for the flyin knee. The man has ups. Now he can get back to his serious run in K1. Can’t wait to see him battle teixera.
Also the sakuraba fight would have been stopped anywhere else i think. But i was just as beautiful that he got it done. And i was very impressed that he still had the pop in his shot. Maybe he had just reserved everything for that one takedown but absolutely amazing single from serious distance.
Kikuno burned himself out trying to get out of that guillotine but he was lighting up Alvarez standing which is impressive. Those crescent kicks had eddie’s gas tank zapped. Like i said it was too early for him to be facing such a guy but he did enough to show that he has a great future in this sport. Maeda did his thing too – beautiful offense but am not sure if he fixed any of his issues defensively. Sucks for Beebe though.
by NameNotRequired on Oct 25, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a surprise, Thompson loses again, how many chances does this guy get – im sure the average hard guy off the streets would have done better.
by Insain on Oct 25, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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