If you think Machida won that fight you’re retarded. And this whole, “you have to beat the champ to be the champ” is retarded as well. How do you “beat” a fighter that runs and counters? Shogun did the best job you could do against that guy. He was the aggressor and the more effictive striker. Also, the first two rounds were draws with Shogun winning the last three.

I so badly want to see Rampage avenge his loss to Shogun. He should definitely be gunning at the opportunity, he’s dealt with the beastman and silva – only Shogun left (Sakuraba & Forrest dont deserve the spotlight anymore).

AWESOME! Everyone will be for Shogun this time because they feel he was robbed. It was a great fight and we get tto see it again.

Machida will win the rematch decisively and silence all you Shogun nuthuggers.

I was rooting for Shogun but predicted Machida to win… this was even worse judging than in the Bisping vs. The Hammer fight.
Machida lost four rounds out of five and still got the win?
My thoughts goes out to the ones that did bet money on Shogun… what a rip off!

am a huge machida fan but shogun was deifnlty robbed of this fight just like hamil vs bisping

daftmania,in my opinion,machida lost 1st round,won 2nd,3rd and 4th,then lost 5th x

Well the way UFC Judges there fights are if the round is too close to call it automatically goes to the current Champion and rounds 1 and 2 where too close to call so they went to Lyoto. Round 3 Lyoto one at the end with the flurry and rounds 4 and 5 where dominated by Shogun

i feel like the decision was a stretch but Machida very well won 3 rounds. more than half the fight was almost too close to call.

idk guys. i see why ppl are upset but we did see an amazing striking battle for 5 rounds!!!

WE WIN!!

WAR FANS!

everyone needs to rewatch that fight on MUTE so your not listening to rogan brainwash you the whole time.

Are you kidding, what did lyoto do in the whole fight?? tell me that, he had 2 flurries, and 2 knees, thats it. He was getting picked apart, i have the fight shogun winning 4 rounds to 1. Worse dec then when the hammer got robbed. And I do hope this happens again, shoguns already got his timing down and he will rap it up in 2nd or 3rd round

if you watch the fight again with no audio you will see machida clearly wins all that machida got hit with were body and leg kicks and shogun kept taking straight punches to the face when he rushed in witth those kicks even though tthe kicks were effective i think machida landed better counter punches the reason i think people thought shogun won is cos joe rogan kept shouting every time he landed a kick but said nothing of machidas counter puches. In the rematch i think machida will leave no doubt in anyones mind by finishing shogun. Definately was his biggest test thus far though.

i think machida won that fight the reason people feel shogun was robbed is because joe rogan kept shouting everytime shogun landed a leg or body kick but everytime shogun rushed in machida was hitting him with straight counter punches or knees shogun hardly landed any puches either it was only kicks to the legs or body. In the rematch i think machida will finish shogun but he was definately his biggest test thus far.

Please do it at 109, I’ll be their. I’d love to see a rematch, although there is no need for one. I just watched the fight again and Shogun easily won that. That decision was an outrage. Cecil Peoples score didn’t surprise me, he’s never scored a bout right in his life. But all 3 judges? What fight were they watching? Rua is the champion. Shogun showed more aggression, more octagon control, landed more shots,and caused more damage. He left no doubt. Yes, it does help to rewatch the fight on mute to take out the bias, which I did, and I still thought that Shogun still got robbed.

2 important things about this fight?

Shogun – He had a lot of energy even in round 5. The Shogun of old is back. How does this change the ladder for LHW? He looked light on his feet and FAST!

Machida – Why did he continue to take the leg kick over and over? He looked confused and tentative. Plus, his counters were nullified by them. It is clear to me that Machida does not know how push the fight. He relies on the momentum of his opponent.

In short, Machida will not keep the belt.

PS. - Imagine how pissed Dana White is right now?

Come on guys! How can you expect DETHRONING A CHAMPION only by kicking him in the leg and not even having him limb or fall or knocked down…

when I talk about dethroning a champ, I understand what lyoto did to rashad, st. pierre to hughes etc.

it is not champ’s responsibility to bring it, it is the challenger’s responsibility – to prove himself that he EARNED it and leaving no doubt..

even GSP became boring after winning the belt.. think about it, he became a wrestler.. no knockout or submission ever since.. why? because he is defending..

IMO shogun did not earn it.. machida is still the champ…

Shogun was robbed.

I challenge anyone out there to prove to me that Machida did anything in that fight better than Shogun did….anything.

I had it 4 rounds (1,3,4,5) to 1 (2)….Rua.

I picked Lyoto to win by 1st round TKO, when they announced the decision I almost fell out of my chair. That decision had boxing written all over it. I am now concerned about fight fixing in MMA. 1st Franklin/Belfort now this………Lyoto lost every round in that fight and won a UD??? this is all wrong!!!!!!!!!!

I had Shogun winning 3 rounds to 2, that was highway robbery. Yes, you hav eto beat the champ which i agree with but, the Champ was beat by a slim margin. I still am in shock of this fight. I have two fights in my mind right now where the judges did worse….Jardine vs Bonnar and Hamill vs Bisping. That was a shame. Wasnt so mad at the Cain vs Rothwell fight, rothwell was nailed 4 times with brutal punches and didnt appear to wall climb at first. A night to remember though, gotta love MMA

it was a disappointing matchup, neither one of them ‘brought it’. if you think of it this way, Rua played it safe by doing his leg kicks. sure he hurt Machida but unless he catches Machida’s head they’re pretty ineffective, seeing that he only landed a small percentage of them. He was probably too worried about Machida’s counters. Do I agree Lyoto didn’t do much? yes. but also agree Rua didn’t do enough to get the belt.

This fight was essentially a kickboxing match…and in my opinion Muay Thai owned Karate in this kickboxing match.

Kicks should score more IMO.

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"In a very close fight, the conventional wisdom is, you need to beat the champion to become the champion"

One more thing, just looking at some Fight Metrics and this fight was closer than Hammil v Bisping and Forrest v Rampage.

MACHIDA IS NOT ON THE LEVEL OF FEDOR AND ANDERSON JUST YET hold your horse ladies and gentlemen

Macida was hurt after Shogun landed those body kicks and that inside thigh kick

As a Machida fan, I couldn’t give that fight to him. Shogun won rounds 1, 3, 4 and 5. Constant pushed forward, landed more strikes, controlled the octagon. What more could you want? Shogun won that and pretty much everyone knows it.

I’m a Machida fan, but it was painfully obvious that he lost that fight. SHOGUN IS THE TRUE LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP. Those judges should not only be fired, but they should have to face Shogun for five minutes in the octagon as punishment!

I’m a Machida fan, but it was painfully obvious that he lost that fight. SHOGUN IS THE TRUE LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP! Those judges should not only be fired, but they should have to face Shogun in the octagon as punishment!

Shogun has hairy forearms,

You ask ppl to explain why lyoto won? Or how we could see it as a victory for him?

No need, we have all the proof in the world. Its in the books our way. Not yours. You defend Shogun, lyoto defends the belt. I’m sure he’s okay with that.

It was 2-2 going in to the 5th. With Shogun winning the 1st. Machida winning 2nd and 3rd. And Shogun winning the 4th. You did listen to rogan too much.

The 5th could’ve went either way, & possibly should’ve went to Shogun, but its too close to call. I also, would’ve accepted a draw. Its debatable & champ stays champ.

You ask where in the rule book does it say ya gotta beat the champ? Well sir I’m sure its the 1st rule. Can’t win a fight if you don’t beat ur opponent.

Lyoto has the record, belt, and the score to prove he won. What does Shogun have?

16-0

i don’t see why u guys are bitching, there have been alot of fights than fighters were robbed on, i don’t see any of you complaning about the early stoppage on the cain vs ben fight

yes i do agree shogun won that fight, he lookes awesome, his cardio was amazing, they will fight again probably at ufc 109 or ufc 111 in march

shogun lost. Look lyoto sopped 100% of shoguns takedowns, lyoto had the only close knockout round when he was teing off on shogun. all shogun did was kick like a lil bitch thats all he did thats y lyoto won and will win in the rematch. Fuck bandwaggen fans. Stop sucking on shoguns dick….

if you read every post you all say different things rua won all 5 rua won 1245 rua won 1345 it’s clear that everyone sees it differently some of you see rua winning certain rounds and others see him losing those rounds i agree shogun won i was shocked when machida got the UD a SD would have been crazy enough but a UD i dunno i’d have to watch it again but i think rua squeeked it out but i did notice that when they were in an exchange and machida was connecting rogan was like oooo shogun shogun shogun i think this maybe affecting the way some of it’s seemed aswell either way the rematch won’t go to the decision both will want to shut up the crititcs and all the what ifs

I’d like to offer the perspective of someone who actually did not hear the commentary during the fight (wife is 38 weeks pregnant… yada yada yada… kibosh on the TV volume). I sounds like Rogan was all about Rua (however, i know he is a huge fan of both of these guys). Deprived of the commentary, my instinct at the end was the Machida would get the decision. Not that he ‘won’ necessarily. I felt like it could have gone either way with the judges, but that Rua probably hadn’t done enough to take the belt. He did damage with the leg kicks, but he for the most part wasn’t able to capitalize. Machida landed sneaky head jabs countering those kicks. Those combined with the few significant exchanges were enough to win him the fight. Like I said- it was so close- and those leg kicks were dramatic enough that I understand the pro-Rua sentiment. One thing we can all agree on is that Shogun was able to take it to machida like no one else has…

What did everybody expect. Machida runs shogun cant catch him. Big surprise two guys with no personality who cant speak english who cares about either?

Enough of this B.S. Shogun won the fight in everyway. When someone beats up another person there is nothing else to talk about. Everyone that thinks that Machida won this fight is a retard, just like the judges. People read the comments of others, hear the crowd after the fight, listen to the other fighters that saw the fight, even listen to Dana White. F*** all the analysis and breakdown of the rounds.

I don’t want to see a rematch. I want to see Shogun fight the Spider. That’s the next best fight at 205.

Machida won rounds 1,2 and 3.
and shogun was not robbed it was very close back to back action..shogun never went for the kill in one round, MACHIDA DID ON SEVERAL ACOUNTS..
btw i still shoguns nuts in my hand, but he still didnt win

I just thought it’s great that I went into this fight thinking machida would dominate, and by the end i was rooting for shogun out of sheer amazement for picking apart machida’s game. when they announced machida as the winner I was mad, even though I went in rooting for him. shogun was robbed, someone needs to youtube a strike by strike documentation of this match, eff the rematch, the decision needs to get reversed.

This tells the WHOLE story…

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html

Shogun “kicked” the shit out of Machida. (pun intended)

I have PROOF SHOGUN WON! (hehe)

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html

They show he won too.

Oh, well. Rematch time + Hype

Is anyone truly surprised by this bullshit?

…why are you Machida fans so obsessed with bringing up Shogun’s nutsack? Is this your way of coming out of the closet or something?

Here’s my take on the fight as I have just watched it:
Let me start off by saying I am a big Machida fan, but I respect Shogun as well and would have hated to see either one of them lose. The first 3 rounds were close as hell. I think each one of those rounds could have went either way, I scored all 3 for Machida. Before I get flamed for saying that here is my reasoning, Shogun did have effective counters with body kicks, however, Machida landed some huge knees to Shogun’s body in each round, Machida landed more combinations throughout the fight as Shogun was landing one or 2 strikes at a time. Machida also stumbled Shogun once in round 2 and stole round 3 with a huge combo at the end of the round. Goldy and Rogan were completely biased towards Rua. They neglected to mention everytime Machida threw a strike and got countered that Shogun ate the strike or strikes to throw another back. So basically what I am saying is Machida would hit Shogun, but Shogun would fire back with a body/leg kick of his own and the commentators only mentioned Shogun’s strike. Rounds 4 and 5 were completely in favor of Shogun. So that makes it 48-47 Machida on my card, but I could easily see it scored 50-45 Shogun, that is how close those first 3 rounds were. I think the fight was a great conflict of sifferent technical striking styles and it was awesome to watch these to warriors go toe to toe for 25 minutes.

Actually, based on the judges scores, Rua beat Machida – See round for round scoring at: http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/ufc-104-results-and-live-play-by-play-20487

The final score when totaling the rounds was

Jordan Breen – 48-47 Rua
Brian Knapp – 48-47 Rua
Mike Fridley – 50-45 Rua

Yet they gave all three gave the fight to Machida. Mike Fridley for instance scored every round for Rua, but then he gives the fight to Machida. Makes no sense.

I must premise my comments by saying that I am probably the biggest Machida fan ever. During this fight, Rua did his homework and executed the best strategy possible against Machida. The fighters prior to Rua failed miserably at taking the fight to the ground, and those that threw handstrikes got countered and got their faces smashed. So what other strategy does that leave? Leg strikes! What a rediculous bombardment of legstrikes by Rua! He held his guard high to protect against Lyoto’s punches and countered with the leg strikes beautifully! Lyoto won round 3 definitively because he tee’d off on Rua’s face. Round 1 I’d give to Machida by a small margin. Round 2 was very close, but by rounds 4 and 5 Rua’s annihilation of Machida’s legs and body were clearly evident. I agree that the scoring was close, but the judges should use their eyes and fuck the points. Lyoto at the end of the fight was hurting far worse then Shogun, hence, Shogun should have the title.

I must say the what is most profound about his fight is psychological. Pior to Rua, everyone was in awe of Machida’s dominance, and it really made fighters doubt themselves and have reservations. Now, I think people will see little gaps in Lyoto’s armor, which humanizes Machida, making him vulnerable. This could be the premature end of “the Machida Era.”

Here’s how the judges scored the fight after totaling each round.

Jordan Breen – (48-47 Rua)
Brian Knapp -(48-47 Rua)
Mike Fridley -(50-45 Rua)

Yet, then they give it to Machida. Makes no sense.

Dana White should be very concerned regarding this decision. Decisions like this is why many of us gave up watching boxing. The only way a judge could have Machida winning this fight was if the judge had already decided for whatever reason that unless Rua finished Machida that Machida was going to hold on to his title. The problem here is that somehow all three judges had this opinion. What are the odds of three out of three judges having that much bias for Machida. It’s impossible, so we Dana has to ask his self what the motivation was for decision. People wager on these fights, people profit from the business of who holds the belt and who fights who next, and certain fighters are more marketable than others, so it makes one wonder why this happened. It clearly did not happen because Machida won that fight or even came close to winning that fight. Let’s all hope that the growth of MMA as a sport and the business that backs it hasn’t corrupted it’s purity like we’ve seen in other sports.

that fight was closer then people think. machida countered most of shoguns shots and shogun countered most of machidas shots. i would like to know how big blocking a take down is. machida stuffed shogun a few times. this was n awesome fight by 2 awesome fighters and neither one of them should be ashamed. the only rounds that were for sure woulda been round 3 to machida and round 5 to shogun.

Well, we have ALL posted. Screamed, got angry, hit the keyboard, kicked the dog, ect…I for won am ready to chill and wait for the rematch. God willing the next one will not go the judges so both Shogun and Machida fans can feel good. Take a deep breath fight fans…and relax :)

no reason to relax. the same crappy judging system will be effect probably by the time they rematch. the fight is one thing but these bad decisions have ruined enough already. that fight would have been better if was called a draw rather than a W for machida. that was insulting to more than just the fighters.

looks like the UFC gets more time to build a lhw contender and has a gauranteed main event for down the road. possibly the only light on this situation.

Nice strategy by UFC. They can still market machida as an undefeated champion and shogun as a top contender. Rematch and rubber match sell $$$$. If you really believe UFC or Dana has no say or power over the NAC, you’re cluess. Corrupt judges are common in every professional and even in amateur sport.

Machida landed as many punches to the face as shogun landed as many kicks to the body as shogun did. Watch the fight again i bet you that’s what you will all see. That the same amount of points scored by both fighters. And Machida landed more effective knees and puches in the clinch and was very effective in his takedown defence, which also scores points in case some of you didnt know. Sure i know it was a very close fight ill agree with that and i would love to see a rematch but Machida won that fight watch it AGAIN if you dont beleive me. P.S the ufc has to fire that douchebag Joe Rogan he is such a biast idiot and should lay off the red bull’s before commentating!

As much as judges were biased, so was Joe Rogan. He was favoring shogun from start to the end. IMO, Shogun won a close decision but Rogan made it sound like Shogun won every exchange and round.

Shogun needs to do something different next time.
Overall, he was staying back waiting to counter.
When Machida looks to be pushing the pace more, you’re not engaging enough. I can see how the judges would lean toward Machida for ‘Octagon Control’. Machida seemed to attack more, and a lot of Shoguns kicks were blocked/checked or glancing blows, & stuffed takedown attempts. It was a close fight that could have gone either way. If Shogun had more octagon presence and would let his hands go, he would have gotten the W.
He needs a better gameplan instead of waiting on Machida to engage, and throwing kicks for 5 rounds.
I’m willing to bet Machida will come back with a different gameplan, I hope Rua does too. Next one won’t go the distance, neither fighter will let it.

I have lost any and all respect for the UFC. I have watched every single UFC bout since its origins and never thought I would witness what I saw last evening. Shogun Rua was completely robbed, and it makes me sick to my stomach. It reminds me of why I stopped watching boxing a long time ago. I have no interest in seeing rigged fights…none. The UFC has completely lost its integrity as an honorable sports franchise and has turned into a corrupt monkeymaking piece of shit. I will never pay for another UFC fight again unless the decision is overturned.

I was stunned and guttered. Yes, the fight was close, but I thought Shogan did more than enough. It looked like Machida could barely walk by the 5th. He was a wreck. And Rue looked fresh as round 1. Unlike no other fighter right now, he has Machida’s number, and next time he’ll be more aggressive and finish it.
To me, Rue had this one in the bag. How all 3 gave it to Machida blows my mind.

COme back strong Rue, ill be cheering for you again.

arguably i can give shogun all five arounds …the only thing Lyoto did that hurt Shogun was a few knees …shpogun was never close to being finished whoever said that needs to stop sniffin glue…lol…….. Chute boxe 4 life…..

CRIMINAL RESULT!

2 words cecil peoples

CECIL PEOPLES THIS MUST’VE BEEN SET UP. I THOUGHT I WAS WATCHING A DON KING PROMOTION. I SCORED THE FIGHT 4 ROUNDS TO 1 FOR SHOGUN. MACHIDA LOOKED LOST WHEN HE GOT HIT, ALMOST SURPRISED. SHOGUN IS THE IS THE LIGHTHEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPION IN MY MINE. MY BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT THE UFC IS GETTING TO BIG AND THE FIGHTS ARE GETTING FIXED. WHY IS CECIL PEOPLES EVEN NEAR THE UFC HE’S KNOWN TO SET UP FIGHTS. ANYONE WITH ANY KNOWLEDGE OF MMA WOULD TELL YOU SHOGUN BEAT HIM AND HE GOT ROBBED. MR. WHITE THE FIX IS IN, ARE YOU LIKE DON KING??? I WAS WATCHING THE FIGHTS, AND I ALMOST THREW UP, IT MADE ME SO SICK TO HEAR THAT DECISION. IT GOT ME ANGRY AND DISAPPOINTED TO THINK MY SPORT THAT I LOVE, CAN BE DIRTY!!!

I’m never buying a UFC event again robbery. IMO I really think like said b4 that the judges went in tere with a decision that machida would win unless he was TKOed or KOed. Maybe the UFC is corrupt maybe because Not too many of these mainstream newbies knew who shogun was or what he was capable of hahaha they were booing the guy at first then cheering for him at the end. So of course after that more people know shogun and how he got robbed and more people will want the rematch when shoguns next fight shouldn’t be a rematch it should be a title defense…BULLSHIT it’s courrpt

Just watched the fight and clearly SHOGUN WON… However the judges were obviously threaten by the mafia with (give the win to machida or you die…) hahaha

WAR SHOGUN!!!

I think all three judges need to go to a few K-1 events to see how to judge a kickboxing match.

I don’t think it was a conspiracy….I just don’t think they understand just how affective leg kicks are.

If I go to my gym tommorow night and my Mauy Thai Kru kicks me that many times….I’ll need to get him to carry me to my car afterward.

Anyone who thinks Machida won that fight has never practiced kickboxing or Muay Thai….that’s a fact.

just like bisping and hamill got a rematch right? In a couple of weeks everyone will forget about this and there wont be any rematch. I cant believe this.Ive been to four events live and ive ordered every ppv for the last 4 years.I know its not gonna matter but they lost my money. Good thing there are actual legitimate sports out there to watch eg. hockey, football,baseball etc… I think all combat sports are always gonna have shady people behind the scenes sucking the money out of honest hard working people. What a shame it could have been a great sport.

TERRIBLE DECISION!

The stats have been posted already Shogun got robbed its a fact not anyones opinion anymore. Shogun unless he reinjures himself should TKO/sub Machida in the rematch.

I justed watched the post fight interview with Shogun and Machida. Both very classy and happy to have a rematch. Nothing like most of the crying little bi#ches on here. Go out and get laid you pathetic losers. Better yet find yourself a sport that doesn’t have judges because obviously it turns your who world upside down when things don’t go your way.

What a load of crap all this “you have to win the belt from him”. Oh and how do u do that? By winning the fight. Oh and who won the fight? Shogun, err which equals??? Goddamn is Rogan a retard or what.

shogun mus kil machida in order to be king. jus like in the animal kingdom.when a yung male lion wants to take over the other king lions pride along wit al the females in it. the chalenger must kil the king and al the kings cubs in order to be the new king.which is what sho has 2 do & he didnt do that. i have been a shogun-fan since Pride but the reality is he did not finish machida.he injured machida but not hurt him near to the point of ko/tko. that is a fact. u must kill king to be the king!

it should have been a draw!!!!!!!!

That bull shit…..if you think Shogun was close….it was a competitive fight but Machida definately had the edge……watch the fight on mute and count the number of strikes landed…

arguably i can give Shogfun all five rounds…..and im not being biased cuz im a chute boxe trained student…..he won..hands down…and i know alot of people say u have to literally beat a cahmpion to becomje the champion meaning a submission or knockout…but come on Shogun definitley won more rounds…..and for those of u saying Lyoto almost finished him…hat fight were u watching….lyoto is one of my favorite fighters but he lost …the only thing he had were his knees a few times he hurt Shogun with his knees escpecially at the beginning of the fight..but Shogun was faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from being finished…

…Chute boxe 4 life….(even tho he has his own Universita luta now

now that there is going to be a rematch? perhpas the rematch was dana white’s intention all along? wouldnt have been much of one if shogun won would there?

The odds were too much in Machida’s favor. Had Shogun won a lot of money would have been lost. Shogun was not supposed to win, not if the judges had anything to do with it. In the rematch the odds will be closer and Shogun will be given a win for a similar performance. Mark my words.

You didnt have to BEAT the champ when forrest fought Rampage, Alright guys so cut the BEAT the champ crap

You didnt have to BEAT the champ when forrest fought Rampage, Alright so cut the BEAT the champ crap

Man talk about getting cheated out a fight. I don’t know what is going on with the judges but that was the worst call i have ever seen!Machida landed maybe 5 hits in the whole fight two knees and a kick and maybe two hits to the face. Other then that nothing all you needed to do is look at his cut up face to know who won. He couldn’t even catch his breath after the kick to the ribs and they said machida won… hahahahah what a bunch of BS!! The Joe even said in the final round that it was Machidas desperation round so what happened? Plus Machida kept backing up the whole fight that was a pretty boring fight and Machida did not defend his belt! So i hope next time Showgun knocks his cocky ass out!!

shogun “solved the so called puzzle” you see machidas face when he gets popped? not ready for it! hahahahahaha

the only round shogun could have lost but still didnt was the 3rd,cause he got tagged a little.but still answered back.I think shogun won at least 4to1.Let me just say to all you guys who dont know shogun,most dangerous guy in lh division,nobody expected this but me,i took a bet where 5 guys took machida i took shogun,after the desision the guys still paid me what does that say.shogun is the new lh champion of the ufc.fuck judges.

ok..ok…this is fuckin b.s!!! yea it looked like shogun won because he just kept leg kicking the “champ”!! if shogun really wanted the title he wouldve tried harder to finish the dragon!! but he was scared to rush because he knew he would get knocked out..so his game plan was leg kicks and hopefully machida goes down and then he would rush in and finish!!!! but his plan didnt fully work the way he planned…because machida didnt go down and kept stuffing his takedowns and kept countering hahahahah!!!! so the dragon rightfully defended it!! why the fuck would machida be the agressor? hes defending …shoguns the one whos after the belt!! and all he did were leg kicks!! did yall see how machida won the belt? knocked out evans!!! did u see how mike brown won the belt?? yea now what!!!!! all im saying is if shogun really wanted the belt..he didnt try hard enough!!!! machida will destroy in rematch!!!!!

I think Machida did not perform well during this fight however I think it really could have gone either way. Too bad for Shogun. All Joe Rogan saw were Shoguns kicks, I think he had a thing for Shogun’s legs! Did he not see that while Shogun was landing kicks he was also getting punched in the face by Machida? Really, try watching this again with no audio.

Can’t wait for the rematch. Definitely both fighters will need to be more aggressive. Machida in a rematch will be too much for Shogun IMO.

Machida will destroy Shogun in a rematch

Who cares who won. Yes I had it scored for Shogun. The judges say different. So sorry Machida fans your boys fucked when he steps back in that pit with Shogun again. And I hate admitting it cuz I like Machida but after watching him basically run and try countering the whole match i got pissed. Look it was not a good fight for the main event. especially after all the attention it had gotten. But as I said before the rematch will be quick and Machida will be going down! Unless he completely changes his fighting style for the fight I don’t see him retaining the title after a rematch.

As deserving as a rematch would be, Machida will probably end up winning it unfortunately. At least we all know that Machida is able to be chopped down and it’s good to see that the Pride version of Shogun is back!

Anyone that says Machida won any round knows nothing about MMA and does not need to post anymore. You don’t belong in an intelligent conversation about this and you need to get your Bitch the Drago’s nuts out of your mouth.

I SAY THE FIGHT WAS WORKED NEITHER FIGHTER WAS SERIOUS ABOUT GETTING IN TOGEATHER AND HITTING EACH OTHER.. THOSE PUNKS WERE TOO BUSSY BACKING OUT ALL THE TIME!!

DONT DIRTY THE GOOD NAME OF MUAY THAI WITH FOOLS LIKE BOTH OF THESE BALETT DANCER RUNNING AROUND..

I SAY AGAING THE FIGHT WAS WORKED ..

CICEL PEOPLES AND NELSON HAMILTON ARE BOTH KARTE KEMPO HEADS AND THIS COULD LEAD THEM TO FAVORING LYOTA..

REMEMBER PEOPLES GOOD JUDGEMENT ON THE BENNY THE JET RETIREMENT FIGHT ?..ANOTHER DEBECAL !!

BRING SOME RFEFEREES FROM BRAZILE OR THE G-R OLYMPICS ..
SOME THING MUST BE DONE AND QUICK..
CANT FOOL ME I WONT PAY TO WATCH A REMATCH IT SHOULD BE FREEOR I NEVER LOOK AT UFC AGAIN ..