Wagnney Fabiano: Injury helped faciliate WEC 43 submission loss to Mackens Semerzier

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Quoteworthy:
"My mistake was to fight. I was passing by problems, I didn’t want to say, to don’t keep giving excuses, my mistake. He got me on the triangle and I don’t know when was the last time that someone got me on that position in Jiu-Jitsu and Sumission’s career, even in training. Nobody ever caught me on this position because I stand up fast. Because of a little injury, my rib cracked when I was going to stand up and I came back. My mistake was to fight, but he did his work and I congratulate him."
WEC featherweight jiu-jitsu ace Wagnney Fabiano faults an injury for his shocking upset loss to promotional newcomer Mackens Semerzier at WEC 43: "Cerrone vs. Henderson" on Oct. 10. The former International Fight League (IFL) standout also mentions a possible move down to the 135-pound bantamweight division in order to avoid a potential match up with friend and training partner Jose Aldo, which could be a smart move on several accounts.
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He doesn’t want to give excuses before the fight but after he loses he’ll sure as hell give one…
by Steve on Oct 19, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree steve, I’ve said this before if your going to fight injured don’t bitch when you lose. I only lose respect for fighters like this who take away from the legitimacy of a win by another fighter. If you can’t come into the fight 100% drop out, the UFC has a big enough roster to find another fighter and when your not a huge name fighter they don’t really care that you dropped out so don’t act like they’ll never let you fight again if you dropped the fight due to injury. This guy totally gets a fail and no new fans thats for sure.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Oct 20, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was a great sub.. As for this whole “I don’t want to fight my friend” thing, ENOUGH!!! I am tired of that excuse!!! If they ask you to fight your friend, fight them!!!!I think some of the best fights are between partners.
by iagoof22 on Oct 19, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IKD, In the gym maybe but i don’t think they can go for the kill when it comes to it.
by NameNotRequired on Oct 19, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You definetly can go for the kill. It has nothing to do with hurting their friends because they all know they are capable of doing it. It has to do with hurt feelings after the fight is over, a grudge or even the possibility of injuring and sidelining a teamate. These guys don’t want to fight each other because they don’t want it to cause a rift in their friendships down the line when one friend stomps another friends dreams of becoming champ. For example Fitch would beat Kos who in turn would beat Swick. Swick doesn’t even belong up there imo but his friends refuse to fight him and refuse to put him in his place. If I ever see Swick against GSP I’ll throw up. total waste of money unless its on a fightnight and then I can watch the overrated Swick get stomped for free which would make me happy.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Oct 20, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well he doesnt have to worry about a fight with aldo for a while after this
by AzCombat on Oct 20, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I admit I haven’t checked anything about Fabiano before this fight, but if he fights like this on a regular basis, I’d feel bad for him fighting Aldo. and like AzCombat said, I wouldn’t expect him to be fighting Aldo for a while anyways – Aldo will be the new champ IMO
by GreenStar on Oct 20, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still like Mike Brown vs. Aldo. I think his power and size are going to be to big of a factor.
I hate when guys loose and go on the record saying something like this. Just give the man his fair share. you got caugt, you underestimated the rookie and got caught…
by Da Monkey on Oct 20, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but maybe what he’s saying is true.
If you lost due to some extenuating circumstances wouldn’t you want people to know it?
Especially MMA fans because as soon as a good fighter loses we’re all over them about how they were overrated and shitty and we retroactivley diminish their previous wins/career.
We’re fickle bastards.
by ShaiZ on Oct 20, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s true that he’s screwed both ways. If he says nothing people will say he is overrated or whatever. If he says he was injured, people will get pissed because he is making excuses.
Personally, I prefer it if a fighter just congratulates the winner and moves on. But I can imagine what goes through the mind of fighter after a loss and feeling the need to explain themselves.
by RafaelDeLaGhetto on Oct 20, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are some of the most fickle fans there are, but I also think a lot of mma fans, or the ones on the sites and really know what they are talking about, are a little more educated then a lot of other sports fans. I mean educated on the sport itself. With that in mind, if you have an injury that may play into the outcome of a fight you should probably not fight or just not say anything. People don’t want to hear excuses. When I was getting scouted for baseball as a catcher nobody gave a shit whether I was playing hurt or not, just if I could do my job behind the plate and if I couldn’t I was expected to say I need the game off. If I blew the game because my knees were in bad shape and someone got into scoring position off me (stealing a base) my coach, the scouts, and the people in the stands didn’t want to hear I am just coming off of major knee surgery. I don’t know I am starting to ramble now, but the point is-if it the injury is a factor before the fight, don’t fight or if you lose just don’t say anything and go out wit a little class.
by Da Monkey on Oct 20, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually find the main stream fans are not fickle, but only us hardcore ones. I have friends who still think Chuck’s the fucking man even with the losses. Hell, most people who are fans barley know about this sight or others. They probably get most of their news from yahoo, espn, or org websites. If they see Fabiano fight again they will barley remember the triangle, they’ll just be like, yo this dudes usually pretty good. It’s only us most hardcore fans that are little bitches, at least in my neck of the woods.
by lazepunk on Oct 20, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know, all of those casual fans in Philly who booed Andy at the start then cheered him once he’d clowned their hero seemed pretty fickle to me.
Speaking for myself, I only turn on fighters if they act unprofessionally in or out of the ring and making excuses for a loss is one of my pet hates in a fighter, it shows disrespect to the opponent not only by devaluing the win but also to suggest that you thought that you could win when not 100%. Fabiano isn’t doing himself any favours by blaming an injury, that was not the reason he got caught in a triangle it was simply sloppiness on his part.
by David W-S on Oct 20, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
David it is Pet Peeves. Where did pet hates come from?
by jay on Oct 20, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s so annoying when a person fights,before the fight doesn’t say anything,then he loses,then its all about this injury,i mean dude,you lost,simple,get a rematch or something,stop bitching!!
by Hot Lil Whore on Oct 20, 2009 2:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny how hardly anybody got on Big Nog for doing this exact same thing after the Mir fight.
by Sleven on Oct 20, 2009 2:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1st off fabiano isn’t big nog, he doesnt have the reputation that nogueira has… it isn’t like Nog or his camp came right out and made the excuse. dana white himself said that big nog was recovering from a staph infection coming into the fight with mir.
by ItsNormlToSmokePot on Oct 20, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nog made it clear on several occasions that he had a staph infection prior to the fight and was not at 100%. And no he didn’t come right out and make the excuse…he waited a couple weeks just like Fabiano.
Dana White confirmed the fact that he had a staph infection. He wasn’t the first to announce it. Plus he did it to better hype to Couture fight. If Dana White came out and confimed Fabiano’s cracked rib it wouldn’t make it any less of an excuse.
by Slaughterhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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