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Demian Maia still hopeful for a title shot despite 'tremendous error' against Nate Marquardt

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"Depending on the opponents, if they’re tough guys, well known, I think I will get the chance of fighting for the belt in two or three fights. I want a hard adversary to show everything what I couldn’t in the past fight, all my training. I made tremendous errors versus Nate. There was excess from my side and too much confidence in the beginning, that is the most dangerous part of the fight. There was also a technical mistake. I kicked three times of the same way. I threw a kick and went towards him when I had to wait to exchange some hits and put him to walk behind. I wanted to land a kick and made the big mistake."

Former undefeated submission deity Demian Maia (10-1) reflects on his first round knockout loss to middleweight contender Nate Marquardt at UFC 102 back on August 29 in Portland. The Brazilian was headed for a possible title shot opposite Anderson Silva until a "Great" knockout punch floored him — and any immediate title opportunities. Fortunately Maia isn’t making any excuses and will use the loss as motivation to come back better than ever. Does a big win over a big "name" get him right back into the mix? Or will he continue to be outgunned by the top middleweight strikers?

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To the back of the line sir.

by ducknow on Oct 13, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

with a decent win I’d say he’s 4th in line…unless Wand gets a win a MW…then he’s 5th…basically he’s approx 2 years away

by McArthur on Oct 13, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he gets winner of Bisping-Kang.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 13, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I second this.

by Pat on Oct 13, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I would just love to see Maia take Bizzzzzping’s back, sink the hooks in , and then nail the rear naked choke…see that cocky Brit struggle for a few seconds till he is bright red..then tap the night away….

by salamagogo on Oct 13, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

we can’t have everything in life, that would be too perfect! Hendo’s starching is still fresh in my mind, let me enjoy that for another 6 months, then lets hope Bisping beats Kang, and wants of piece of Wand.

by the Slovak on Oct 13, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call NNR both Maia and Bisping are coming of huge KO losses and need to get back in contention and you can not totally count Kane out but I don’t like his chances.

by Puck Head on Oct 13, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here NNR, Maia is a horrible match-up for either Bisping or Kang. Demian will have no problems taking Bisping down and submitting him and won’t be in danger of a flash KO because Bisping isn’t a hard hitter while Kang has made a career of blowing fights by making mistakes against BJJ specialists. A dominant win over either of them would put him right back in the mix.

I’m a big Maia fan, he’s a classy guy who makes no excuses and shows respect to all of his opponents as well as the sport, plus his BJJ is the best in the sport. Hopefully he has learnt from the mistakes made in the Nate fight and will continue to work on his striking technique so he doesn’t get counterpunched again. He has a lot to work on but I’m confident that he’ll continue to improve and if he can beat some big names, starting with the Bisping-Kang winner, then he will be right back at the top of the division. Good luck to him, he’s an excellent role model and an exciting mixed martial artist.

by David W-S on Oct 13, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maia was exposed last fight and will continue to lose to any one with decent TDD. He is cream of the crop on the ground, but bottom of the barrel standing. He should be middle of the pack fighter from here on out. Too easy to gameplan against.

by jay on Oct 13, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suck me solid bro

by Danny on Oct 13, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tend to agree with David on this but if he’s too one dimensional it’s just inevitable that he’s going to get dropped again. I like watching Maia fight and have become a fan but I’d like to see him strengthen his stand up or at least become good enough at it to set up those takedowns. He’s phenomenal on the ground but as we’ve all heard Rogan say time and time again, “Fights start standing up”.

by Greggo on Oct 13, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing i like best about Maia is his meticulous technique- that effortless invisible jui jitsu that Rickson and saulo preach. And he’s transferring that mentality to his striking. He clearly saw that his error was a technical one and not a lapse in judgement or mental thing or coincidence/bad luck for that matter.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 13, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay – Maia’s TD defense wasn’t exposed, his striking was but regardless his wrestling game is deceptively technical and really hard to stop. Sonnen is literally an Olympic caliber wrestler- you saw what he did to Dan Miller yet he got lateral dropped on his head. If he goes for takedowns he always finishes them not by powering but by cutting corners and by pulling half guard to trap the leg.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 13, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maia is easily one of my favorite fighters to watch. I really do believe that he will be a serious contender for the middleweight title for years to come.

I just cant wait to hear who they match him up against next. I would kind of like to see If Maia’s jits can catch Yushin Okami who is infamous for being able to control opponents! I wanted to see Maia/almeida, but Riccardo is dropping down to WW, where he will be a beats!

by john G on Oct 13, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No cutting in line!

by MMA Junkie on Oct 13, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he mite want to consider dropping to 170, he seems pretty undersized at 185

by bobby o'shea on Oct 13, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn’t seem to matter against bigger guys so far. He lost his last fight due to a technical error like he said. Guys with his grappling and wrestling skills don’t get smothered.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say he should go down in weight too but, say he gts a title shotat WW. Theres no way he could beat st. Peirre…

by belfort_fan on Oct 13, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has a better shot at beating gsp than beating silva. Gsp would have to keep it on the feet for once because if he took it to the ground maia would have gsp tapping.

by mma guru on Oct 13, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he would tap GSP. GSP has excellent BJJ defence. Not that he would need it, the odds of Maia taking GSP down or knocking him out are slim to none. GSP would kill Maia 99 times out of 100.

by jay on Oct 13, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah its more like 70 out of 100, gsp cant help but take fights to the ground these days and maia could just pull guard. GSP doesnt have one punch ko power like Nate and gsp may have good bjj defence but maia is on another level. This fight is alot closer than 99 out of 100.

by mma guru on Oct 13, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

GSP’s bjj defense is a little overrated. Yes he did smash BJ but i can’t seem to get the image of him getting flying armbarred by Leo Santos in ADCC. Also BJ is a sweep to take back and sub kinda guys, he doesn’t really attack from the bottom. I think GSP would win but Maia’s BJJ would by far be the most dangerous he will have faced.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 13, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

99 outta 100?! Gimme a break. MMa guru’s figure is more accurate…

by Syd on Oct 13, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

maia vs gsp would be good. I thought bj would have had a ground battle with gsp but he was outmached.

by Icantthinkofanything on Oct 14, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

bobby, great idea, he and gsp after a few fights at ww, that would be a good fight. gsp can’t seem to one punch anyone, and takes fights into later rounds.

by the Slovak on Oct 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Maia vs GSP!!!
EXACTLY what I’ve been saying, Slovak! The top of MW is too crowded. If Maia wants a quick title shot, he should go down to WW where they’re dying for respectable contenders. Maia’s jits would be a great challenge to GSP’s wrestling and force the champ to show us some of that amazing standup talent we used to see before he won the title.

by shonuff on Oct 13, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

GSP can’t seem to punch anyone? Did you see him fight Fitch? He fights to his gameplans and to his opponents weaknesses. He would destroy Maia in the stand up.

by LJ on Oct 13, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

LJ, but didn’t the Fitch fight go to five rounds??? not sure, I only have a few drivebys, and you guys are much more knowledgeable than I.

by the Slovak on Oct 13, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

LJ, you are correct he would destroy Maia standing. Way too fast for him. I think that guy meant one punch people, as in knock people out with one punch.

by jay on Oct 13, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slovak- The fight did go five rounds, and you are indeed correct on GSP’s fights lasting to the later rounds. It may be more of an indication of his competition though. His fights w/ Fitch and Alves went 5, but he finished Serra and Hughes early. Maia’s BJJ makes him a dangerous opponent for anyone!

by LJ on Oct 13, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Maia is a pretty small MW.. He would do good at WW but when he gets to GSP he would lose…

by belfort_fan on Oct 13, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Completely agree!

by LJ on Oct 13, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably, but can you think of anyone left at WW who can offer GSP a better fight than Maia? Moving down in weight is good for Maia, good for the WW division, and good for us!

by shonuff on Oct 13, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maia either wins by Sub (highly unlikely), or gets pounded quick. I don’t think it would be a good fight either way, but I wouldn’t mind seeing him drop to WW.

by LJ on Oct 13, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact of the matter is he needs to work on his stand up REGARDLESS of his weight class. I think he should at least be testing the waters (at the gym) with trying to cut down to 170.

And even though his stand up is clearly lagging his ground game, I dont think we were able to see much of it in his last fight, apart from his 3 kicks (which he admits was a huge mistake).

by WB on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

super huge maia fan, but his jits and gsp’s wrestling would nullify each other, leaving it on the feet, where maia, is out matched. Very similar(only poor man’s version) dos anjos and griifin.

Maia is a true MW, who got caught, no need to panic, losing to Nate, is no shame. If not for A.S. would probable be the best(or at least has the potential), in the world at MW.

We do live in the era of Anderson, and as long as he is motivated, and paid, is untouchable. It is what is is. He has spanked the MW division thus far, and I don’t see Belfort, being an different.

by petition on Oct 13, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

“Does a big win over a big "name" get him right back into the mix?”

Yes.

“Or will he continue to be outgunned by the top middleweight strikers?”

Yes.

by JB on Oct 13, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not hard to get back into the mix at MW as long as your name is not Okami.

by DolFan on Oct 13, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point, DolFan. Is it just me, or does the UFC seem heavily biased against Japanese fighters. I can tell if this is a bias by the UFC execs or if it’s an indirect bias because they think American fans aren’t interested in Asian fighters. Or is it just that Japanese fighters dont’ want to come to the US because with the money they make in Japan there’s no motivation to put up with disrespectful obnoxious Western fans who boo every time the fight goes to the ground and mispronounce their names.

by shonuff on Oct 13, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okami would get a shot if he wouldn’t stay injured all the time.

by peazy on Oct 13, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

So true.

by Jerrolds on Oct 13, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maia ain’t all that. If Nate could get one good shot on him when he threw a kick, the spider would have hit him atleast three times before putting him out.

by Rubberman on Oct 13, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Maia would get NOWHERE with Silva, think Thales Leites at best, Forrest Griffin at worst.

by Jerrolds on Oct 13, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Maia vs GSP i like it more and more… by the way, would it kill Maia to do a couple of push-ups?

by Robert(1) on Oct 13, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

i love his belt

by AzCombat on Oct 13, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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