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UFC 106: Forrest Griffin to step up and fight Tito Ortiz on Nov. 21 with Mark Coleman hurt

Ortiz vs Griffin

Two former light heavyweight champions will attempt another run at division greatness as Forrest Griffin (16-6) steps in on short notice to fight Tito Ortiz (15-6-1) at UFC 106 on Nov. 21 from Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, the UFC confirmed earlier today.

Griffin, who will look to avenge a controversial split decision loss to "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" in their first encounter at UFC 59, replaces the previously booked Mark Coleman, who was forced to withdraw from the event after tearing his MCL in training.

Ortiz is coming off major spinal fusion surgery to correct a back problem that plagued him in his most recent bouts. His last appearance was in May 2008 — a unanimous decision loss to now 205-pound champion, Lyoto Machida.

It’s been more than a year since Ortiz saw action in that performance, which had him in trouble early only to nearly finish it with a triangle-to-armbar transition that "The Dragon" barely escaped.

After the loss, it appeared that the decade-long tumultuous relationship between Ortiz and White had finally reached its breaking point; however, the pair was able to miraculously mend fences just last month and put their difference aside to start making money together once again.

Star-divide

Ortiz has three wins, two defeats and one draw since he returned to action in 2006 from a brief hiatus. And those three victories have come at the expense of a past-his-prime, Ken Shamrock (twice), and the aforementioned split decision over Griffin.

Whether or not a surgically repaired back will help him return to form and make a serious run at the light heavyweight championship remains to be seen. His latest journey begins on Nov. 21.

Like Ortiz, Griffin has been on a career rollercoaster after they last met in April of 2006. The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) pioneer rebounded from a devastating loss against Keith Jardine at UFC 66 to stun former PRIDE superstar Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at UFC 76.

The scrappy best-selling author followed up that performance by upsetting Quinton "Rampage" Jackson at UFC 86 to usurp the 205-pound crown.

He promptly coughed up his new-found gold to fellow TUF grad "Sugar" Rashad Evans at UFC 92 and was then unceremoniously fed to Anderson Silva at UFC 101 last August.

After dropping back-to-back fights, Griffin is in dire need of a win. Getting a chance for redemption -- not just for the consecutive losses but also for the questionable decision at UFC 59 -- would go a long way in returning him (as it would Ortiz) to the forefront of division contenders.

As cliche as it sounds, this one could boil down to who wants it more.

UFC 106 will feature a main event heavyweight title bout between two absolute monsters as champion Brock Lesnar will look to defend his gold for the second time against his newest challenger, Shane Carwin.

For more on the developing UFC fight card and rumors click here.

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i would have rathered see Rich Franklin vs. Tito but i have no problem with these two fighting each other. I have to admit this make sense right now. Forrest is coming off that huge loss to Anderson looking to redeem himself and Tito is trying to solidify his first win against Forrest as legit, while getting what some might call “a big win” in the light heavyweight division (although i don’t like either one of these guys that much, and don’t consider them THAT relevant in the LHW picture)

by Blunt N' Beer on Oct 9, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

franklin and tito isn’t a fight i would want for a main event, and thats what they would of done.. franklin is still spinn’ from belforts punches.

Evans and Tito was a DRAW!!
thats why that fight would of been better then this one.
i thought griffin took the 1st fight or at least a draw

griffin needs to win and redeem himself!

by Mikeybear on Oct 9, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if your trying to say they would make Franklin vs. Tito a main event over Brock vs. Carwin then you are sadlyyyyy mistaking. If you didn’t know that main event was scheduled or whatever, then i guesssss that makes your comment ok. Otherwise…wake up buddy.

by Blunt N' Beer on Oct 9, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL well said blunt.

by Beaver on Oct 9, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder where Tito’s cardio is going to be because in their first fight I thought Griffin was totally dominant in that last round, possibly 2nd round, (though he got completely worked round 1).

And in reference to everyone calling out how weak Forrest’s run to the belt was, when reviewed now Rashad’s was almost as questionable;

Beat Bisping – OVER-RATED
Beat Liddell – WAY past his prime
Beat Forrest – Forrest was winning, Rashad caught him on the (now highly questionable) chin.

by WB on Oct 9, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

his chin has always been questionable. Seriously who gets KO’d by jardine?

by NameNotRequired on Oct 9, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is a legitamate mach, both guys are kinda at the same spot in their careers, both guys are looking for come backs, would say alot about Forest if he can redeem himself, a loss to Anderson Silva is never a total disapointment, I’ve been saying for awhile that Anderson Silva would walk through most of the 205 division, but now with the new champ skip Lyoto Machida(that would be an awsome fight tho), and walk through a good number of the heavy weight division, he may struggle with bigger guys like Lesnar or Carwin but the again the guy is so talented he may be good enough to dominate with his raw skill. Just think about the savage Muay Thai moves he could let off with the kinda skill and speed advantage he has. I would love to see Silva VS Fedor, I am willing to bet Silva would take that fight. Also I think Lyoto Machida has the same potential!

by TysonLeeHarris on Oct 9, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would take that bet tysonleeharris! fedor has a chin…not to mention hands like hammers and submissions like none other. the difference between silva and fedor is that fedor takes the wins as soon as the appear. unlike anderson who likes to dazzle with his superb striking. fedor would either sleep anderson or sub him. hands down.andy can hit but fedor has been dumped on his head by a zangief like suplex and shook it off only to win with a sub moments after.

by omoplato on Oct 9, 2009 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RE Rashads run to the belt I’ve been saying that for a while now. Not only is Bisping over-rated, I also thought that Bisping won that fight on points. Says it all really.

by Neil on Oct 9, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the UFC LHW division is pretty much irrelevant now that machida is the champion, as there is no challenge to lyotos crown. Even anderson silva has said that machida beats him 8 out of 10 times they spar, so if machida is toying with anderson also who is really going to challenge him.

by dtoto on Oct 9, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is this really a smart fight on the ufc’s part, if forrest loses thats 3 in a row and if tito loses it will mess up his comeback, i thought the whole point of tito-colman was so tito could get an easy win under his belt before he went after the bigger names, forrest could easily win this, he is a much better fighter than when they first fought and it was close back then, tito hasnt changed, i’ve got to go with forrest in this 1

by hughes on Oct 9, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Omo just asking out of sheer , you said Fedor has a chin. Are you implying that Franklin(who has only been tko/ko by Vitor, Silva, and Machida), Leben(one of the best chins in all of mma-who has only been ko’d by silva), Marquardt(who has also only been ko’d by silva), and Irvin have no chins and that Anderson has beaten chinless opponents? I think Fedor has never, ever fought anyone with the level of striking that Silva has. I am not sure that he would win, but I have seen Fedor rocked on several occasions(including to 185 Matt Linland) and have yet to see anyone even phase Silva with strikes. The most difficult part Anderson would have against Fedor is the ground game. In the stand up I think Anderson has an amazing chance.

As far as Forrest and Tito, I really hope Forrest comes back in a big way and sends Tito to the lossers table. If Tito beats Forrest(who is still a top 5 ranked fighter according to Sherdog)we may have to hear Tito piss and moan for a title shot after just one fight.

by Da Monkey on Oct 9, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a good fight. I thought their first fight was a draw myself. Forrest won’t come into this one with stars in his eyes like he did the first time, and a UD loss to a recent champ isn’t going to derail the Tito train.

by PW on Oct 9, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why give Tito easy fights, or anyone else for that matter?! If they want easy fights, go to Strikeforce. The UFC is in the business of making money, and we’re in the business of watching good, solid matchups. I like this fight a ton better than Coleman, who is just over-the-hill in my opinion. I don’t think the UFC should provide any warm ups for proven fighters like Ortiz or anyone else. They didn’t give Shogun any warm ups when he came in, why give it to Tito. Either he’s ready or he’s not, let’s go.

by slim473 on Oct 9, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That being said, I would have loved to see Couture vs Tito instead of Vera. I just don’t see how people think Vera is exciting to watch.

by slim473 on Oct 9, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I cant believe that I am going to bet money on Forrest. Thats how bad tito is! I have NO DESIRE to ever see this fight. I will probably change the channel when this fight airs…I dont even want to see this on my dvr.

I will however admit that this is the level of fights that Forrest belongs in…NOT against top LHW’s….He should be fighting the #6-#15 Ranked fighters!

Actually, considering Forrest’s mental state, Im not sure I want to bet money on him…nw I really wont watch! I refuse to pay for this event..I will watch it at a bar, so this will be my schedued cigarette break!

by john G on Oct 9, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you not smoke and watch the fight at the same time anymore? I know the candy-ass libs in Dallas have forced everyone to go smoke-free. Sad world man.

by PW on Oct 9, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, cant smoke in bars anymore! HOw Gay is that?

by john G on Oct 9, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This should be an exiting fight. I think Forrest will beat Tito this time around.

by belfort_fan on Oct 9, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This time TITO is going to send FORREST crying back to mommy.

by TaPouT on Oct 9, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

john i want to save you some money, don’t bet on forrest.

by roy on Oct 9, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

roy…wake up buddy! every time tito comes up you sound silly, and I like you too much to let you do that to yourself!

by john G on Oct 9, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would bet everything i own on Tito.

by RoBerto on Oct 11, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tito is gonna wreck him… Forrest shouldn’t have taken this fight, too soon. He’s the new Jardine, on again off again… Tito by UD

by Lakota on Oct 9, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ortiz doesn’t belong in the UFC get him out of here. It’s an easier matchup than the Hammer coz forrest can’t wrestle worth a damn but i hope he guts it out and we hear the back problem excuses again.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 9, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ortiz definitely belongs in the UFC… Have you seen him lately? He looked stacked at the UFC 103 Q&A… Best I’ve seen him in years… I think this is gonna be the best Ortiz we’ve seen! Griffin should have taken longer off, and fought Coleman when he’s ready…

by Lakota on Oct 9, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who let Tiki Ghosn start posting comments here?

by ViolentMike on Oct 9, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ortiz definitely belongs in the UFC… Have you seen him lately? He looked stacked at the UFC 103 Q&A… Best I’ve seen him in years… I think this is gonna be the best Ortiz we’ve seen! Griffin should have taken longer off, and fought Coleman when he’s ready…

by Lakota on Oct 9, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually tito doesn’t belong in the ufc he belongs in strikefarce at best. He isnt a main event and is barely a credible lhw anymore and forrest will prove it by beating his a$$.

by mma guru on Oct 9, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF are u guys smoking Tito belongs in UFC, now i hate tito but for some one who been around like since i think it was ufc 12 or 13, and has fought and beat a who is who of mma, and helped ufc get to where it is today defo deserves to be in the UFC.

all you fan boys who have jumped on the wagon in last 2 – 3 years and think your all guru’s piss me off,

as my grandparents say respect your elders, so people like coutour ortiz and coleman who where doin this sport b4 most of use even new what MMA was defo have my recpect at least, as if it wasnt for them i really dont think UFC would be where it is now

by CoNr on Oct 9, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree with ya CoNr.

by brandon childers on Oct 9, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Tito belongs in the UFC because he helped MMA get where it is today? Tito’s last relevant win was against Belfort at UFC 51 which was 2005. You could even go back further to Matyushenko in 2001 as his last solid win. Since fighting Vladimir in 2001 he beat SHAMrock 3 times(wow), lost to Chuck, got spanked literally by Randy. Then he beat a Rookie in Cote who actually stood in there all 3 rounds, a split win over Belfort. Then he had the split with Griffen who many thought he lost, SHAMrock, SHAMrock, lost again to Chuck, draw with Rashad, and lost to Machida. So if you think about it his last real win against meaningful and relevant opponent was Vladamir. I am all for giving respect to the older fighters but they need to remain competetive and relevant. Couture as much as he is handed title fights at least he beats relevant opponents. Henderson is still a winner against top 10 fighters. Look at Chuck do you think Chuck deserves to fight, just because he is Chuck and he did a lot for the UFC? Shamrock helped make the UFC a household name should he be in the UFC? Like I said if Tito proves himself with solid wins then great, but if he just continues on the path he was on, then he really has no place here.

by Da Monkey on Oct 9, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Monkey. Belonging in the UFC has nothing to do with how you’ve impacted the sport, otherwise you’d see severn, royce and the likes still mixing it up. Ortiz and his contemporaries passed up the older generation and now the new one has passed up Ortiz. He simply doesnt have what it takes and his resume in the last few years certainly shows it.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 9, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not like Forest got any work in his last fight….

by sudnvictory on Oct 9, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha! well said

by vincenwc on Oct 9, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh he got worked alright!

by ---Caesar--- on Oct 9, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not really at all is he the “new Jardine”….Forrest stinks! He beat an over rated and fat Shogun who had a busted up knee at the time and then beat a lazy Rampage Jackson which was nearly to close to call a win IMHO….other than that what has he ever done thats so great?1?!? The dude was KNOCKED OUT by Gumby the submission specialist lol. I used to like Forrest, and although I do think he’s funny and I admire his heart, I just think that as a fighter he is grossly over rated and he has never had the BIG decisive win like a Jardine followed by a devastating loss like Jardine…

by Chadx23 on Oct 9, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW…I will be cheering Forrest on in this fight, I cannot stand Ortiz 99% of the time. He runs his mouth too much!!! I can’t wait to see Tito try to stand up and be a striker now that he has been boxing with Freddie Roach, he will get smashed by any decent striker.

by Chadx23 on Oct 9, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

am in the same boat chad. I can’t stand Ortiz 100% of the time. I was hoping to see Luis Cane wreck him or Coleman LNP him out of the ufc. But i’ve been calling forrest overrated forever.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 9, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes I was actually looking forward to old man Coleman sending Tito packing. I would like to see Randy give him a spanking again as well just for kicks…it would have been so great especially since Tito thinks he’s so cool for beating an old worn out Shamrock twice in a row. Oh well, this fight shoulod be intersting but even more interesting in my opinion is the Thiago Silva and Rashad fight…Thiago has been a beast lately besides the KO loss to Machida. One thing I dont like about the Rashad/Thiago fight is that YET AGAIN, Rashad fights someone his partner has already fought!

by Chadx23 on Oct 9, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The MEAN1 is the official greg jackson scout, the man should have a trademark next to his name. They’ve already gameplanned for T but he wrecked their plans by watching a little vid on Jardine and realized he drops his left when he wades in with side to side punches. I wanna see Thiago come out like a beast in his next fight and show that he’s cleaned up all his bad habits.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 9, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tito is working with Freddie Roach?? well, wasn’t Arlovski working with Roach too before Fedor starched him???

Hey tito, no flying knees, k.

by the Slovak on Oct 9, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most people whining about it but i think its a good fight for both at this point.

by Tony on Oct 9, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Definitely better than Ortiz-Coleman. Go get him Forrest!

by Five Finger Death Punch on Oct 9, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This might be to big of a jump for Tito off the hop I played forrball and wrestled for ten years when I got a knee injurie that kept me sidelined for over a year and lost my starting job at football for half the season when I came back and lost my first match as a wrestler then three more with the layoff before I got to were I was before the injury and Forrest is no joke no matter how bad he looked against Silva.

by Beaver on Oct 9, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really…..are you seriously comparing pro athletes to YOUR high school or college days injury? Im pretty sure you didnt have an eight of the amount of physical therapy, training, and everything else associated.

by krave on Oct 9, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When is the last time you seen a pro athlete come back after over a year out and look the same? The answer is never its common knowlege Tito’s timing, reaction and being in the real thing nothing training has to offer kave anyone with that knows shit knows training is no werte near the real thing. Have you ever played a sport man?

by Beaver on Oct 9, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesnt matter what shape tito is in forrest has developed into a much better fighter and will whoop him. Forrest is top ten lhw Tito aint this fight will prove it.

by mma guru on Oct 9, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO yeah i have played a sport or two. Never said tito was gonna come back all diesel like and dominate. I just think its laughable that you really compared his situation to that of your old “glory” years. I mean u and your “I played forrball and wrestled for ten years when I got a knee injurie that kept me sidelined for over a year and lost my starting job at football for half the season when I came back and lost my first match as a wrestler then three more with the layoff before I got to were I was before the injury” Again not saying injuries dont take time but who care how your knee injury prevented u from being home coming king?

by krave on Oct 9, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm are you slow krave I didn’t see any bragging how good Beaver was just that he was a starter and with a year off he wasn’t wich very similar to any sport on the level you come back at yeah Beaver might not of been pro but the time off effected the level that he played at compared to what he was playing at? Did you get picked on in college or high school by the jocks are something LOL. Ayway I agree beaver Tito may be physically ready to compete against the best but when your out as long as he was it might take two or three fights to get back yor techinque and timing back.

by Puck Head on Oct 9, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW krave your ignorance is showing LOL.

by Beaver on Oct 10, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Much better fight anyway.

by naturalshadow on Oct 9, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes.. way better than Mark and Tito.. im lookin forward to this one

by vincenwc on Oct 9, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been wanting this fight since…. umm… oh yeah UFC 59 when Tito squeezed out a decision win, I swear the judges were either blind or high when they scored that fight… Tito (known for his cardio) was gassed… and Forrest wanted Round 4!

I am neither a Tito or Forrest fan but, Griffin won that fight hands down and I hope Griffin puts Ortiz away in devastating fashion… make him think twice about fighting in the UFC again.

I’m looking forward to this fight more than I am Lesnar/Carwin

by ironfist_55 on Oct 9, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How can you be looking forward to a comeback fight with no idea how Tito’s game is over the two best fighters that weigh over 250? Are you a chick or dude that thinks Tito is hot?

by Beaver on Oct 9, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mania should filter its comments from dbags like this guy…

If you put down the crisco and soda for one minute and actually read my post, i thought Forrest Griffin got robbed in their first fight. So no, that does not mean I think Tito’s hot… I want Griffin to beat his face in.

Seriously, Mania… block this guy only dbags would name themselves “Beaver” and call other guys chicks on this site.

by ironfist_55 on Oct 9, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tito was not robbed in their first fight as he clearly won the first 2 rnds

by McArthur on Oct 9, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tito won round 1 10-8, according to Eddie Bravo… but I thought Forrest did enough to grab rounds 2 and 3 10-9, possibly 10-8 in the 3rd round.

At very least, that fight should have been a draw. Forrest wanted round 4 and Tito was happy just to get that fight over with.

This next fight will say a lot about whoever wins.

by ironfist_55 on Oct 9, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Tito won round 1 10-8, according to Eddie Bravo… but I thought Forrest did enough to grab rounds 2 and 3 10-9, possibly 10-8 in the 3rd round.”

Possibly 10-8 in the 3rd round? Tell me exactly how someone wins a round 10-8 by avoiding takedown attempts and throwing about 5 punches that actually connect?

Your bias is glaring.

by introvert on Oct 9, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was a close fight and could of went either way. Ironfist stop being a little B^tch mania is not your mommy LOL.

by Puck Head on Oct 9, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone is saying first fight,close fight, close fight, so what do we do when we have a close fight? that’s right, you have another one, this will be a good fight, we’ll see if the head is back in shape and if Griffin can get back on track.

weak card though imho, not as knowledgeable as most, but I like 4-5 strong fights on a card, and this one doesn’t have it. Where the heck is Dana hiding Jon Jones????

by the Slovak on Oct 9, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a bad match-up for Tito for the reason that Tito was never that good and fighting Forrest after almost a 2 year lay off is not smart. Even though Forrest looked bad against Anderson, his game has gotten drastically better and evolved since their first encounter. I expect Forrest to use the same approach he did with Rampage and out work him on the feet. With that said, Forrest via a one-sided Unanimous Decision and Tito blames it on his back.

by Kilby on Oct 9, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

does forrest present more problems for tito …or was colman the stiffer test. im not sure

after forests post fight tantrum at 101 i wouldnt mind seeing tito pull this one out.

if you cant be gracious in defeat you dont deserve to be elated in victory

if tito wins the production staff is needs to lock the cage

by dia mette on Oct 9, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Forrest?

I can’t stand Tito but he’ll win this one the second Forrest has Anderson Silva flashbacks. Tito wins via Mental Breakdown.

by DubNub on Oct 9, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Forrest has a huge name were he can gain respect back even though Tito is almost two years out of the game his name is still huge and a big opportunity for forrest to gain some confidence and respect with that said count on forrest coming out like a man scorned to put the past behind him.

by Beaver on Oct 9, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fear you may be right, DubNub. Forrest at his best is certainly capable of beating Tito at his (and did, IMO) but right now Forrest’s mental state is highly questionable, and for a fighter who’s 80% heart and 20% skill, that’s not the right time to take on a guy lik Tito Ortiz, because for all his bitching and whining, Tito is mentally very tough from bell to bell and can smell an opponent’s fear and doubt and will take full advantage of it. I hate Tito and hope that Forrest comes out hungry and dominates him, but based on the interviews I’ve seen them do lately, I think Tito is hungrier and more determined and Forrest needs some more time to exorcise his inner demons. Great matchup but bad timing.

by shonuff on Oct 9, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

War griffin!!!!!!!

by alan on Oct 9, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’ll be good to see Forrest back. I like Ortiz too, but Forrest is one of my fav.

by Pamirec on Oct 9, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

War Forrest!!! I hope he picks up right where they left off in their previous fight.

by Spitforce on Oct 9, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see Forest as too big a challenge for Tito. Tito was a former champion who held the belt for a lot longer than Forest did. Even coming in with ring rust, this is Forest he’s facing not Machida. It might be a closer fight but it’s not like he has to worry about being dominated.

by sudnvictory on Oct 9, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Im shocked. Neither fighter can afford a loss here

by PP on Oct 9, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hes had the best comment out of everyone. they both stand to lose alot more then they gain. ortiz franklin or even forrest franklin would be much better

by brandon on Oct 9, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

after thinking about it they should scrap the rashad/silva fight and put together tito vs rashad since there was no winner and put tiago against forrest

rashad vs tito would be huge especially with all the air time rashad is getting every wed night

by dia mette on Oct 9, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea i agree….

am i the only one who wanted to see thiago and vera? that match just seemed inevitable since they both fought on the same card and gave dominant performances…just seems natural…and have shad/tito…and maybe have randy/forrest…or randy vs loser of machida/shogun…

i was so 100% certain that vera would be fighting thiago next….that is a fucking match id love to see…

by HellaHectic on Oct 9, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pp, indeed. though is there anyone who wouldn’t rather see this than coleman-ortiz?

i’m not sure what i think of franklin-ortiz. franklin’s much smaller. i have trouble imagining him in lhw now…

by pants on Oct 9, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tito has the most to gain if he wins he will be close to a rematch with Machida.

by Jennifer on Oct 9, 2009 1:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lol you have taken more shots in the mouth then jenna jameson if you think that.

by mma guru on Oct 9, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it isnt that far fetched…anyone who puts together a 2 fight win streak right now against legit opponents in the 205 division has a chance to fight machida…everyone at the top has lost recently…

with rampage gone look at the top guys:

1. shad – loss to machida
2. thiago – loss to machida
3. shogun – probably will lose to machida
4. luis cain 5. rogerio nogueira – one of these guys is about to lose to the other
6. vera 7. randy – one of these guys is about to lose

so its not far fetched to think that whoever gets 2 good wins could get a title shot…tito beats forrest convincingly and then beats one of the guys above he could get machida…

a good 2 fight win streak against quality opponents at the moment in the lhw division can get u a title shot

by HellaHectic on Oct 9, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, love him or hate him, Tito is still a pretty big draw imo. So I’m going to have to agree with Jennifer also.

by brandon childers on Oct 9, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this statement.

I think I may have caught a virus from looking at your little boobies, though lol.

by introvert on Oct 9, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell yeah it’ll be good match

by phenomenal angel on Oct 9, 2009 1:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, exactly the match up i was waiting for, something we would actually care about as fans!! lol War TITO!!!!!!!!!!

by Jon on Oct 9, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now this is more f**kin’ like it!

by Syd on Oct 9, 2009 1:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD ROOT FOT TITO, BUT I HOPE HE SENDS FIRREST RUNNING! TITO BY TANTRUM.

by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 9, 2009 2:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i honestly thought id never say this but after forrests last performance im going with tito… i think he will use his wrestling effectivly and out work him.. forest isnt as hunger i dont think

by sugafoot on Oct 9, 2009 2:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Forrest just endured two losses in a row and is now getting the opportunity to avenge a loss on his record. This should motivate him. Tito better come with a vengence if he wants a chance. It sucks because I don’t want to see either of them lose.

by RyanHobbs on Oct 9, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if both were the same fighter the last time they fought (forrest vs a silva and tito vs machida) then most def tito will take the win…my prediction its gonna be UD..judging by tito went 3 round with machida and 1 possible sub attemp..while forrest got finished in a round with no punch landed at all..IMO silva and machida almost had the same skill and technique also both are the best P4P in my book..

by indoMMA4609 on Oct 9, 2009 3:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tito’s in trouble

by Brian Jenkins on Oct 9, 2009 3:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Forrest is a bad matchup for Tito right now. He’s experienced a lot more since their last meeting, & is gonna be more than hungry to redeem his last loss. Tito WILL be rusty in the cage. Forrest has improved his standup immensely since their last meeting, despite his showing against Spider. I think Forrest will take Tito into the third round, & then TKO time.

by erba on Oct 9, 2009 5:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope Forrest beats him again.
Maybe this time they will have judges with sanity.

by KS on Oct 9, 2009 5:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

explain how you think Forest win…he lost the first 2 rnds of that fight and the 3rd was close….your dislike of Tito clouds your reason…

by McArthur on Oct 9, 2009 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you not see that even eddie bravo had forest 2-1 over tito.

  i would also like to just say
    RUN forest-RUN!
 i really dont care who wins this fight, in the long run it really wont matter

by f*ck it on Oct 9, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bravo had round 1 10-8 for Tito…and he was on glue for round two, because Tito won round 2 IMO.

by introvert on Oct 9, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yours must be clouded.
I watched the fight live, and 2 times since and I don’t see how anyone could say Tito won that fight.
Explain exactly how you think he won 2 rounds.

by KS on Oct 9, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my thoughts exactly. well said.

by ironfist_55 on Oct 9, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I reckon Griffin v Bonnar (Both with much to prove after bad losses) and Rashad (with no Rampage around) V Tito would make an excellent joint main event for a UFC, I’d watch it!

I think the latest UFC event was the worst I can remember, the mid-week fight night was 10 x better and would have made a great main show if it wasn’t for the lack of big names… We need more of these old rivalries to spice it up a bit.

by Jimrod on Oct 9, 2009 7:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

eh…Rahsad vs Tito was not very exciting…Tito would have won if he didnt get that point deducted for the fence grab…anyone know when the last draw was in the ufc prior to tito/rashad?

by salamagogo on Oct 10, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok which Forrest Griffin is going to show up?? This is going to be the major question. Forrest needs to clear his head and get back on track, again he steps up to the plate for the company and takes stiff competition. I am at odds for this fight cause he was a ass after the Silva fight, which I see no reason for cause you got knocked out by the best fighter in the world. But anyway which forrest is going to show up????

by matt on Oct 9, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i do think forrest is damaged in his mental game, two knockout in a row to him especially will linger in his head no less
and tito is business right now, i think he will bring it
i hope a 6 week camp is enough for forrest

by bryant on Oct 9, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

because Forrest lost the first one and I thought he had one? I guess Ill want to see that fight? Not really though this fight has no impact on anything. Not sure I even care

by BudsyKind on Oct 9, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hate to say I told you so, but…..

by introvert on Oct 9, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whats your take intro? how do you see this one ending?

by McArthur on Oct 9, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see Tito winning this one…again.

I’ve watched their first fight 20 times and I have absolutely no idea how anyone with any knowledge of MMA figures that Forrest won that fight.

Round 1 – was arguably 10-8 Tito…at least 10-9.

Round 2 – was 10-9 Tito, as Forrest did nothing but stuff some of Tito’s takedown attempts, and get up from getting a 2 minute beating on his back. As far as striking goes it was a close round, but octagon control and agression was definately Tito’s.

Round 3 – Another close round and I’d give Forrest the edge in striking….10-9 forrest.

The only thing that made that fight as close as people like to think was Joe Rogan and Stephan Bonnar doing the commentary for it. Every time Forrest threw a punch or got up from taking a beating on his back, those two guys started to orgasm into their microphones and blatantly cheer for Forrest…I found it quite disgusting as an MMA fan TBH.

Forrest’s wins over Rampage and Shogun were based on footwork and leg kicks…especially the Rampage fight. Rampage doesn’t shoot for takedowns…he stands and bangs. Tito, on the other hand would shoot on Forrest after timing the leg kick, then beat him up like round one of the 1st fight on the ground. Tito is working with Freddie Roach on his boxing, and as improved as Forrest’s stand-up is, he can’t hurt Tito with his punches…I think we all know this.

In short, Forrest’s biggest weapon in his last two big wins (leg kicks) won’t work against Tito, and I don’t see what else Forrest could possibly do to beat Tito…unless they decide to compete in the 100 meter dash instead of MMA.

Tito is hungry again…Forrest seems to have turned into a mental midget lately….

Tito by domination.

by introvert on Oct 9, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed…Forest couldn’t bust a grape and won’t be able to put Tito on his back…the only way forset wins is by points but I still don’t see it

by McArthur on Oct 9, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or if Tito makes a mistake or too many mistakes wich could easily happen with the time off Tito has had remember when Tito was on top of his game they had a close battle

by Puck Head on Oct 9, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s alot of “if’s” Puck Head.

I’ll bet you some dough on this one.

by introvert on Oct 9, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody said it up there and kind of ticked me off… why do we as fans care what the ufc puts it front of us. If i recall some guy said is it smart on the ufc part to face forrest who has lost two fights in a row agaisnt tito who is trying to make a comeback. Really?? we are worried about that. This guy probobly wants forrest to fight a can as well as tito. this is a Good fight in my opinoin and if one loses fuckin go train harder. Go Tito by the way…

by Gil on Oct 9, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good call

by UK_Chris on Oct 9, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hate rematches. a lot. but i suppose enough time has passed. and i enjoy watching both of these guys. for best they could do in the situation, as a fan i look forward to it.

by UK_Chris on Oct 9, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am pumped! I hope this fight is awesome! lol

Honestly though I think it’s gonna go 3 rounds but that’s my opinion

also got tito!

by pbdb on Oct 9, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tito vs Kimbo. 2 losers that will draw that nobody really wants to see in a serious fight.

by bob jones on Oct 9, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“2 losers that will draw that nobody really wants to see in a serious fight.”

If nobody wants to see them then they wouldn’t be draws lol.

Wow

by introvert on Oct 10, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bouche!

by pbdb on Oct 10, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FOREST FOREST FOREST!!!!!! ALLLLL DAYYY

by JROK on Oct 9, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Forrest better not fight like he did against Hector Ramirez…what a boring 3 rounds…nothing but leg kicks, jabs and running away…granted he wanted to win, but guh…that was one lame fight

by salamagogo on Oct 10, 2009 3:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tito takes this everday. Tito by G & P knockout. War Tito!!!!

by Rilly on Oct 11, 2009 5:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s going to be a great fight! I hope Forrest can bounce back from his last defeat!

by Daniel Contogiannis on Oct 16, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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