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Shinya Aoki: 'I think I am the better fighter and capable of beating' UFC lightweights

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"I am not concerned about my opponent. It does not matter who I face -- as long as I let my style shine and fully express myself in the ring, everything will be fine. Yes, I want a belt. Actually, let me rephrase that: I just want to win and do not want to lose. For every fight, it simply boils down to my wanting to win, or rather, my dogged determination to win. The belt will follow my victory, so I am focused solely on winning and do not allow myself to be distracted by belt or all the other frivolous stuff.... I am interested in fighting in a cage since a lot of the major promotions hold their fights in the cage nowadays. I am aware that some people raise the question about my viability in the cage -- it upsets me whenever I hear them say that I will not succeed fighting in the cage under a different set of rules. I think I will not be beaten by anyone. It is often said that UFC is the pre-eminent force in the MMA world with the best fighters and BJ Penn is number one: (Raising his voice) It does not anger me, but it makes me want to challenge the assertion. I acknowledge their major league status, financial power, the caliber of their fighters, but I do not consider them the number one. I think I am the better fighter and capable of beating their fighters... so yeah, regardless of the opponent, I cannot afford to lose."

Brazilian jiu-jitsu wizard Shiny Aoki is reluctant to elaborate on his impression of his upcoming opponent, DREAM Lightweight Champion Joachim Hansen, at DREAM 11 on Oct. 6. Aoki, however, is not as shy when it comes to talking about caged competition in the west. He acknowledges the UFC is a major force in the MMA world; however, he sounds rather irate with the constant trumpeting of its number one status. He states that he would love to challenge the fighters in UFC and implicitly harbors a "me against them" mentality. He certainly has his work cut out for him against "Hell Boy" on Tuesday night, but is it possible that "Tobikan Judan" could someday take on top fighters outside "The Land of the Rising Sun" such as Penn in the future, and if so, is he well rounded enough to win? Thoughts, please. Share them below.

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I think Aoki has as good a chance as anybody against BJ. When is the last time BJ has fought anyone with arguably better BJJ than him? I think Aoki would beat BJ.

Flame away……..

by introvert on Oct 4, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

BJ would beat aoki so bad his pants would come off……that sounds pretty bad lol

by JG on Oct 4, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

and dana is gunna start doing the video blogs starting at the next PPV

by JG on Oct 4, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not only is BJ a more well rounded mixed martial artist but he has better BJJ than Aoki. Seriosuly Aoki’s BJJ is way overrated and the fact you think it’s better than BJ’s is well laughable and shows how much you know.

by Keko on Oct 4, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aoki would get beat by Diego, Maynard and almost all guys that have good wrestling in the UFC well except for maybe a guy like Clay Guida that likes to mess around on the ground way too much.

I think Nate Diaz would beat Aoki with ease too.

by RoBerto on Oct 4, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, Aoki has crap wrestling and would lose a kickboxing match to a heavy bag. He’s ok and getting a TD from the bodylock but trying to get anywhere near BJ with that would end badly for him.

BJ has heavy hands and excellent boxing technique, is incredibly quick and agile, has excellent TD defence and has at WORST equal BJJ to Aoki. Also BJ is just as flexible.

And rainbow tights are illegal in UFC (where the fight would have to happen since BJ is the champ).

Still though, would be fun to watch!

by Neil on Oct 4, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t even think AOKI could beat someone like DIEGO SANCHEZ or TYSON GRIFFIN. But until he steps up and steps into the Octagon, we’ll never know.

by RedDog on Oct 4, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, and you have to take away the “even” from your post cause Aoki wouldnt’t stand a chance against someone like Diego. He would be beat by atleast 4-5 UFC LW’s and that’s for sure!

by RoBerto on Oct 4, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shinya Aoki must be in dreamland. He can’t go head on with BJ. He’ll get murdered!

by Johnny Drama on Oct 4, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, RoBerto, I was trying to be nice :D

by RedDog on Oct 5, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

you guys are kidding if you dont think Aoki would knock of a few UFC fighters. For example: He would TOy with Joe daddy!

I dont think Aoki could beat BJ, but he can compete at the uFC’s highest level…This guys jits is just so damn crafty!

by john G on Oct 5, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

bj, kenny, would finish him
tyson griffin would beat him by split or UD

by Mikeybear on Oct 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This just shows your bias there’s absolutely no way in hell Florian would finish Aoki. How, with all that KO power? Or his superior grappling skills? lol.

by frosnt on Oct 4, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

frosnt, to Mikeybear’s defence he probably never heard of Shinya Aoki until this Mania article :)

And since Florian is in the glorious UFC, he MUST be able to destroy Shinya. Oh…those kids nowadays

On a different note, I would love to see Shinya and BJ fight. At lightweight there is hardly anyone else in Japan for him to fight, since he decimated Alvarez

by Footprints on Oct 4, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course you think that. you think anyone NOT in the ufc would beat anyone in the ufc

by ---Caesar--- on Oct 4, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

He might be better at crossdressing than a lot of guys in the UFC.

by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Oct 4, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? BJ wouldn’t even have to go to the ground to humilate Aoki. This would be BJ vs. Uno all over again with a huge KO reel I think both you and Aoki have been drinking a little too much saki.

by xxBAxx816 on Oct 5, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

…btw, mania….can you get rid of that pic with the three queers showing their abs, please?

by introvert on Oct 4, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

No I can’t. It’s from Adsense.

by MMAmania on Oct 4, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I asked about that stupid pic a few days ago. It doesn’t make me want to go to that web site or purchase their product.

by PW on Oct 4, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha I totally agree with you guys. I know how it works with adsense tho. Can be a pain sometimes…. That picture is horrible tho. Looks like a few dudes that are really into each others bodies lol

by enzo-enormous on Oct 4, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They look like tools on the verge of homosexuality, not that there is anything wrong with that.

by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Oct 4, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think its an ad for something called astroglide? i dont know what that is, and the restrictions that my parents have set on my browser wont let me open that website. can anybody help a brother out? is astroglide like steroids?

by an 8yr old boy on Oct 4, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

8 year old boy???

Lol I nominate your post for best of the year. Ha ha ha

With the combination of ur screen name, and the parent block on ur computer speel? Ha ha so funny! I can only assume ur indeed not 8 etc, which makes it all the much funnier, great sense of humor.

And if you are 8?

Buahahaha even more!

by Daniel worby on Oct 5, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

now thats funny shit!!!

by joe daddy on Oct 4, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not!!! but even if his bjj was better then bj’s how the hell would he get it to the ground?

by joe daddy on Oct 4, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

you ever here of a little technique called: PULLING GUARD?

by john G on Oct 5, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen BJ’s GnP?? I hope we would consider pulling guard unless he wants 20 pints of blood gushing from his forehead like Joe Daddy! lol

by haglnuts on Oct 6, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow. he wouldn’t consider

by haglnuts on Oct 6, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Introvert!!! I have been thinking the same thing. Their holding each others shirts up??? Fn gay….not that there’s anything wrong with that

by BOW on Oct 5, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

those guys look like the three biggest douche bags ever.

by boz on Oct 6, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he is too much of a one dimensional fighter to challenge BJ .BJ would pick him apart on his feet .Their ju jitsu would off set one another.In my opinion he would be in big trouble against alot of UFC fighters(BJ,Florian,Edgar,Maynard) just to name few.But it would be intresting.
PS : I second that Please take off that ab pic !!!!!!!!!

by Chris on Oct 4, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree about BJ but every one of those other fighters you mentioned have shown that they can be caught in subs. There aren’t any submission fighters at LW as dynamic as Shinya so i do believe he catches everyone of them if they play the ground game with him (pants or no pants). Standing though they’ve all shown cleaner abilities.

by NameNotRequired on Oct 4, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

AGREED!

anyone know if he would be allowed to wear the tights in America?

by john G on Oct 5, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he would fair well against anyone but Penn. Penn has beat Renzo Gracie and Gomi he are all amazing BJJ fighters. I think BJ’s stand up would be to much for Ayoki. Those silly little pants that help him grip a super sweaty opponent won’t be in play either. BJ will pummel him on the feet and make him pay. Aoki has no standup and that is what would kill him in the UFC. Every fighter in the LW division in the UFC have become well rounded fighters. I also don’t think he Ayoki has fought wrestlers like Tyson, Edgar, Sherk, Maynard, and Guida who can completely nullify his jits. He did beat Eddie ALvarez, but I don’t think Eddie has the wrestling pedigree of the aformentionted fighters, he his really known for his boxing. I am not saying they are better then him, but their wrestling can nullify what he has to offer. That would leave him in a standup battle, with anyone in the top 10 of the UFC, where he will be exploited and exposed. Even Maynard and Tyson have become very effecient and effective boxers. It would be interesting to see how he would do in the UFC though. I would love to see BJ and him go.

by Da Monkey on Oct 4, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Great point man. I know Aoki has some of the best BJJ in the game but i dont’t think he’s is better than BJ Penn’s. Also Aoki does train with Eddie Bravo sometimes and he uses rubber guard and some 10th Planet jiu jitsu but that would not be enough even against strong wrestlers like Sherk or Maynard. The thing is that Aoki is a good fighter and a super slick grappler and wizard on the ground but the level of competition in the UFC is not the same as in the organizations he has been fighting not to mention the cage factor and so forth. Plus is not a grappling contest is MMA which mean u have to use Kickboxing, Wrestling, Boxing, Judo, BJJ, Karate, Muay Thai etc. Aoki has never really shown spectacular stand up or punching power he even barely uses wrestling ur takedowns he mostly pulls guard or sets them up just so he can end up on the ground or on his back. Aoki vs. Bj would be a great fight but i defintly see BJ winning no doubt. BJ is the more experienced fighter, he is just as flexible, has a little better Jiu Jitsu, has better wretling, better boxing, stronger and is capable of taking a great amount of punishment (see his 2nd Matt Hughes fight and the 2nd St Pierre fight @ UFC 94) while Aoki has been untested as far as taking damage and has not fought the type of fighters as BJ has, maybe with the exception of Eddie Alvarez but other than that no one else as good as the fighters that are in the UFC 155 division. If Aoki came to the UFC they should let him fight Edgar first then maybe Tyson Griffin, Joe Stevenson then granted he wins he should fight Kenflo or Diego Sancez eventually to determine the # 1 contender and then he can fight BJ. It dosen’t matter who u are anymore u should fight up the lattern in the division like everybody else does.

“The ice man the ice man with ur belly u look more of the snow man.”—Tito Ortiz trash talking Chuck Liddell @ UFC 46

by G-Man on Oct 4, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what absolutely pains me about Aoki, is when he scoots around on his ass trying to grab you with his legs. He did it in the Alvarez fight, it looks so silly, and it makes the other guy just run away from the crab man. I hate the way that looks. Palharese did that to Hendo, it is like please jump in my guard. You are an mma fighter, engage, jump guard if you have to, but that doggie butt scooting kills me. I have been taking bjj classes for a bit now, I see it in grappling, but mma. They should allow you to soccer kick to the head if someone does that, a la Rua or Wandy.

How many of those slick subs do you think Aoki pulls off without the tights? I suppose he can tape off the ankle and the wrap the knee, to keep some grip, but I awlays wonder, if he would be able to pull of some of those subs,with sweaty legs.

by Da Monkey on Oct 5, 2009 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aye I understand u gotta make money to keep the site going.. but that ab pic with those three douches is pretty gay

by zack on Oct 4, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I have to agree with Chris. BJ, Edgar, Maynard, Griffin, Florian would all have the submission avoidance skills to offset Aoki’s BJJ, and all would kill him in the standup.

by ToeLock on Oct 4, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

so does he have any plans to fight in the UFC? I think he would be top 4 if not champ in UFC.

by hatteras on Oct 4, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

HAHAHAHA! Never dude.

by RichT on Oct 4, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by petition on Oct 4, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I can think of at least 10 ufc lightweights that would destroy Aoki. One dimensional fighters don’t make it in the ufc buddy.

by Josh H. on Oct 4, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey mania… Shiny Aoki? I must be tired but that cracked me up, hahaha

by Wingblade on Oct 4, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

keep juicing and wearing cheap pants..

by guyverbob on Oct 4, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I didnt know much about Aoki but I watched a couple of his fights before I posted. His BJJ looks good but he was going to get knocked out by Eddie Alvarez and you could tell he wanted no part of the stand up. The top tier of the UFC lightweights are much too well rounded for this guy to beat them. If he couldnt submit them he would get knocked out. Lets bring him in the UFC and give him to Nate Diaz and see what hes got.

by bassy on Oct 4, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

…didn’t this guy just lose?

by pbdb on Oct 4, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

As much as I enjoy watching Shinya fight, I just can’t see him fairing well againt even the second tier of UFC LWs. I don’t know if his destruction from Sakurai (WW GP), and to a lesser extent Hansen (Dream LW GP final), has tainted my opinion of him but I just consider him to be lacking in toughness. As long as his opponent isn’t sucked into his ground game I believe he can be consistently ko’d/tko’d.

by Matt on Oct 4, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

He has lost 2 of his last 5 fights.

by bassy on Oct 4, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

BJ WOULD SMASH HIM ANY TIME ANY PLACE

by RichT on Oct 4, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that, like most Japanese imports, he’d end up getting severely out-muscled by most of the top UFC fighters. It seems to me like most Japanese fighters are a bit undersized by UFC standards and don’t cut very much weight.

But it’d be interesting to see – the UFC needs some new faces to shake things up.

by MattNY on Oct 4, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Aoki is actually big for the lightweight class. He is 5’11 and cuts alot of weight. and he has fought at middleweight before. But I agree he would get smashed in the UFC. He would be another Marcus Aurelio.

by steve on Oct 5, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aoki is just ducking Marius Zaromskis!

He saw what he did to Sakurai.

by DirtyML on Oct 4, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

UFc LW divison sucks donkey balls compared to Dream/Strikeforce Shinya is 100%right he would pwn everyone there.

by Khaos_Warrior on Oct 4, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

the ufc lwt division is the best in the world hands down!!!

by joe daddy on Oct 4, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Word
There still is some guys outside that are tough but ufc has the top 5 best

by phenomenal angel on Oct 4, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aoki would only have a chance if he can his opponent to the ground…but that’s only the average UFC lightweight. He will lose for sure against Penn, Sanchez, Florian. Tyson, Maynard and Sherk would probably beat Aoki too.

by anom on Oct 4, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Penn would murder him!

by broncos12405 on Oct 4, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

go and fight in the ufc then you pencil necked geek

by Dave on Oct 4, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

i can understand his frustration, but if it bothers him that much then he needs to go sign with the ufc.

by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 4, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Aoki would be champion sooner than later!!!!

by Spyder on Oct 4, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

i used to like this duue, but his mouth is writing checks his ass can’t cash. aoki is just another jake shields, antonio mckee type fighter. calling out names and fights that he knows he will never have to back up. last time he fought hansen he got his tail whipped, so he had better keep his mind on whats in front of him. he also just got decimated by sakurai, who is basically a ufc lw that doesn’t cut weight. plus he couldn’t wear his magic pants in the ufc, they are illegal, so i doubt if will ever see him try and back his words up. sure he will always be able to make more money in japan b/c he’s japanese and no one knows who he is in the states (aside frome hardcore fans), but if he were able to back up what he says and beat fighters like bj, diego and maynard, the money would follow. iv’e never heard bj, kenny, grey,diego or any of the top ufc lw’s talk smack or call out aoki or any of the lw’s who fight overseas. they know they are in the best lw division the world has to offer. most fighters like him and shields and jay heiron and so on CHOOSE to fight in these other orgs, b/c they know they can be big fish in smaller ponds. in other words-PUT UP OR SHUT UP AOKI!

by j.b. on Oct 4, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Shinya is awesome guys. I think only people with KO Power would beat him. Hes not a heavy hitter.

He is a better version of Nate Diaz.

Anyone stupid enough to grapple him would lose. Just that simple.

BJ would win probably 65% of the fights vs him. Most being draws 50% and 10% being ko and 5% being subs.

by SHAMWOW on Oct 4, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Aoki would crumple under the hands of BJ and 5 or 6 other LW in the UFC. Aoki should be cutting weight and fighting 145. He is too small to fight 155 in North America.

by jay on Oct 4, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ could beat him, but these 5 or 6 guys you speak of would no way in hell “crumple” Aoki…not a chance.

by introvert on Oct 5, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s a lot of big talk, how about he backs it up?

by kitsunex on Oct 4, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

If ufc for some reason does not take huerta back, huerta should go challenge aoki
That would be crazy fight

by phenomenal angel on Oct 4, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

all i can say is step in the ufc and find out

by bryant on Oct 4, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

How do you guys think Joachim Hansen would do in the UFC? I don’t know much about these fighters in these Japanese leagues, except that I keep seeing their names on everybody’s top ten list for LW. Most rankings list 4-6 of the top 10 lightweights as guys outside of the UFC. So how do you guys who’ve watched those guys think Hansen would stack up to the UFC talent?

by shonuff on Oct 4, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

hansen looks like he should be competing at 145. he looks way to small to compete witht he ufc’s lw’s. there are alot of fighters that are ranked in the top 10 of alot of mmawebsites rankings, simply for the fact that they ARE NOT in the ufc. gomi was #1 at lw for years over bj, even though bj destroyed him at rumble at the rock and he stayed #1 even through losses and inacticity. mma weeklys are the worst, they still don’t have bj at #1, and have never had sherk in the top 10, even when he was the ufc champ. some fighters get cut by the ufc due to several losses and go to another org and wammo! they are automatically ranked in the top 10 with a win over a nobody. robbie lawler was ranked as high as #2 at mw with wins over trigg(who by miracle was ranked as a top 10 mw himself) scott smith, and ninja. lawler couldn’t beat any of the ufc’s top 10 current mw’s, just like trigg couldn’t beat a top 10 ufc ww’s. so don’t be surprised to see travis lutter( who just beat j-mac) to pop up in alot of top tens at mw. woudln’t surprise me to see kalib starnes in mma weeklys ratings with a few wins over a couple of cans. as far as hansen,aoki and alvarez are concerened, the only way to find out is to see them grow some balls and fight in the ufc, to see how they would fare. you’d think they would get tired of just fighting each other over and over again. for a straight up answer, i don’t think hansen could beat clay guida, tyson griffin or nate diaz, the lower half of the uf’c lw division. he might be able to beat the sam stouts or the matt wimans of the division, but other than that he is just too damned small to be a legit threat at lw in the ufc imo. he and aoki would be a holy terror in the wec’s 145lb division i think though.

by j.b. on Oct 5, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

cool, thanks for the info. I’ve never seen any of those guys fight, so I’m kinda in the dark when it comes to comparing UFC to other LW’s.

by shonuff on Oct 5, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

just to follow up, i think both of these guys are great fighters, just too small for the ufc’s lw division. hansen just weighed in at 150 and aoki 153. i seriuosly doubt that they are cutting weight (why would they cut that much?)

by j.b. on Oct 5, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like watching Aoki and think he is a good fighter, but I think he would lose to the top tier of UFC lws mainly because they are all horrible matchups for him..

In no order

Diego
Edgar
Maynard
Tyson
Penn
Ken Flo

I think all these guys either have too good of wrestling, or have good enough bjj not to get subbed and I think all of them tool Aoki on the feet

by Tony the Tiger on Oct 5, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

big mouth, cristal chin, UGLY FIGHTING STYLE ,so is this guy, hocicon, quijada de cristal y un horrible estilo de pelea basada totalmente en el jiu jitsu, bj peen destoy aoky in 1 or 2 rounds if fighting one day si es que pelearan algun dia, shynia sucks, the ufc fhighters its the best of the world today, aoki and all dream fighters SUCKS

by duckman on Oct 5, 2009 3:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Isn’t shiny aoki the guy that got decimated by the non ranked Hayoto Sakurai in 27 seconds lol …Quite amusing don’t get me wrong hes a talented guy but lol ..0 stand up

by Wtf?lol on Oct 5, 2009 3:34 AM EDT reply actions  

YEAH ¡ ¡ ¡ shinya aoky SUCKS, its the best in all the world, but talking, not fighting JA JA JA aoki = UGLY FIGHTING STYLE, BIG MOUTH, CRISTAL CHIN, NO STAND UP FIGHTER, so is this guy, the BEST of the big mouths ¡¡¡¡

by duckman on Oct 5, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aoki has 0 stand up he wouldn’t be able to cut it in the ufc

by Spideysilva on Oct 5, 2009 3:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Funny how some mediocre wrestlers and failed boxers from KOTC-level promotions get brought into the UFC, and suddenly they are considered good fighters. Longtime MMA fans know what the truth is: Sanchez, Guida, Maynard, Griffin, Stevenson, Sherk etc are not top 10 fighters, and they would get killed against elite lightweights like Aoki or Kawajiri. With the exception of Penn, no lightweight in the UFC today is good enough to even finish a fight, which tells you alot about the level of the competitors. Open your eyes, and try watching some real MMA people.

by Dr. MMA on Oct 5, 2009 6:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Whether they finish fights or not they are MMA fighters. The reason fights don’t get finished alot of times is because of the level of cometetion. Fighters in the UFC are not falling for flying armbars, jumping into Ayoki’s guard, smart enough to counter most grapplers submissions. I think Diego and Florian would cut through any lightweight division out there in no time at all. Ayoki is a 1 dimensional grappler and we have seen time and time again how 1 dimension works in every organization but the UFC. Maynard, Guida,Griifin, Stevenson, Sherk, are such amzaing wrestlers(far from sub par wrestlers) that they would completely nullify most of the grapplers outside of the UFC. I am not saying they would be perfect outside of the UFC, but what I see is fighters becoming multi-dimensional fighters in the UFC because that is the only way to compete. With the exception of Guida all the names you listed would completley do well and be top level in any of the LW organizations if not champions, outside of the UFC. If you don’t think that the UFC LW’s are the best in the world then who is? BJ decimated Gomi, who was the number 1 fighter in world even after he got beat. How do you figure that works? Diaz, who was unranked, beat him as well even though they took the fight away from him, cuz he smoked weed, what a joke. Most commentators/mma shows around the world consider the UFC LW and WW division to be the supreme divisions overall. I am a longtime mma fan, since nov 93, the first UFC. I think most people on this list, who are also longtime mma fans, consider the LW and WW divisions of the UFC the Cream of the Crop. Who do you consider the best LW’s in the world to be?

by Da Monkey on Oct 5, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I can’t argue with you guys that say BJ would beat him (he most certainly could), but you guys that say he wouldn’t stand a chance against the other UFC fighters are completely stupid. And, it’s debatable who has better BJJ between Aoki and BJ…not sure why you all think that BJ’s is so much better without seeing them grapple…have we learned nothing?

by introvert on Oct 5, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

BJ for sure 10 out of 10 fights. He could prob take out ken flo though lol.

by mak on Oct 5, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

The problem is, unlike the HW division, the UFC’s LW division is so incredibly deep and stacked with talent that they have no motivation to reach out to these top-10 lightweights that Amercian fans have never heard of. Only the most serious fans are begging for guys like Aoki, Gomi, and Hansen to challenge the UFC ranks. 95% of American fans have never heard of those guys and are perfectly happy watching the current UFC lightweigh crop duke it out. I think the LW’s deliver Fight of The Night as often as all the other divisions combined. So Dana and Co just don’t see the need to offer the kind of $$$ it would take to lure these guys away from Japan where they are top-paid headliners.

by shonuff on Oct 5, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

japanese lightweights >>>>>> ufc gay americans

by beatingupkittens on Oct 5, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

AOKI #1.

AOKI > Penn anyday!

by Hilton Herrera on Oct 8, 2009 6:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Aoki would do well against anyone except BJ Penn. Some of the stronger wrestlers would give Shinya a challenge, but eventually his rubber guard would neutralize. Shinya took out Eddie Alvarez, an awesome wrestler.

by eurasian on Oct 21, 2009 2:30 AM EDT reply actions  

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