UFC Quick Quote: Dan Henderson wants a new contract and a title shot to go with it
by Jesse Holland on Oct 1, 2009 1:36 PM EDT
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"I like Vitor (Belfort). He’s a good guy and he’s been around for a long time, but I just don’t understand why he gets to jump to the front of the line, especially when I beat him. I think it’s something that might have slipped their minds, that [it] happened. I’m not exactly sure. You’ll have to ask them on that, but to me, that’s what it seemed like. I feel like I have stepped up for them a number of times and have done things for them. I never turned Marquardt down. I basically made a statement saying that Marquardt and Anderson Silva are my next two fights regardless and I’ve got to beat them both to either become or stay the champ. I’m O.K. with fighting (Marquardt); we just have to come up with a deal. Basically anywhere’s a possibility, but I’d like to make things work with the UFC. I don’t know what they're thinking. They haven’t gotten back to me at all since I flew out last week. I’m not trying to pin them over a barrel or anything. I feel like I was just undervalued before, especially toward the end of my contract."
-- Former number one middleweight contender, Dan Henderson, tells Sherdog.com that he hopes to re-sign a new contract with the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) soon and rematch reigning division champion, Anderson Silva. Company president Dana White indicated that "Hollywood's" sensational knockout of Michael Bisping at UFC 100 was enough to earn him another crack at "The Spider;" however, the Brazilian’s manager, Ed Soares, made the case that Henderson should take on Nate Marquardt first to determine a clear-cut contender. That idea didn’t sit too well with Henderson, who now gets pushed aside in favor of Vitor Belfort -- who lost to Hendo at PRIDE 32 back in October 2006. Does he need to beat Marquardt to face the winner of Silva vs. Belfort? Or did "Dangerous" Dan already do enough to be next in line? Opinions please.
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I love Hendo but he has to realize that the fans want to see Anderson fight someone new. If he takes care of Nate easy, and Silva waxes Belfort….we will want to see it again.
by thetuf75 on Oct 1, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
While I agree with that…
Put yourself in Dan’s shoes. Yea he already got a crack at Silva BUT he has earned his way back to another shot. He was damn near promised another chance if he beat Bisping and then they took it back saying he needs to beat Nate. Which he is ok with but it’s gotta burn a little to watch a guy he beat leapfrog him after just 1 UFC win…
I think Vitor Vs. Silva is a better fan fight but I agree with Dan for him it’s not very fair. I am a Hendo fan and I hope he gets his chance somewhat soon…
by Irishmikey on Oct 1, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree, although i want to see anderson vs belfort dan or nate earned it ahead of him and dan has a win over belfort and would probally beat him again. i just hope they get dan resigned either way i don’t care if he fights nate anderson or hendo first i just want him in the ufc he is a top mw and top lhw for sure.
by roy on Oct 1, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Since when has the UFC been fair with giving out their title shots anyways? This is a business first and foremost. I think they need to get Dan signed and get him the match with Nate…that will be a sick fight to watch and without a doubt the winner should get the next crack at Silva/Belfort.
by Buster Bluth on Oct 1, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to see another Arrested Development character on here
Can’t disagree with anything you said Buster
by Bob Lawblah on Oct 1, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson is the worst stylistic matchup for Hendo if they fight again i will guarantee that he will be the first man to stop him with strikes. Even with Marqy, hendo has his work cut out. Marquardt has good grappling game and is a competent enough striker that he won’t get hit with a cinder block. People need to realize that Hendo has been taken down before by guys with far lesser wrestling games than him. Especially now that i have given it serious thought – i think Marqy wins that fight.
by NameNotRequired on Oct 1, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
dan shoulda got the title shot when they told him he was getting a title shot when he k’d bisping
by JG on Oct 1, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
NNR-Like the “Marqy” reference, hehehe!
In any case, VITOR VIA KO!!!
Anderson’s speed won’t escape Vitor’s power!
by The Negation on Oct 2, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Dan does deserve the title shot over Belfort, but at the same time, Dan can’t really complain too much. Dan had 2 title shots(1 at 205, and 1 at 185) in his first 2 fights in the UFC. Sure, he had 2 worthless Pride belts at the time, but Vitor has a worthless Affliction title of his own.
by naturalshadow on Oct 2, 2009 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Dan lost the 1st fight, but he made no excuses, got back to work, and earned another shot. Following the BizzzBing fight, Dana promised him the shot. Now, like so often, Dana is going back on his word.
Dan is definitely getting the short end of the stick. At least he will still get another crack at Silva, after the spider destroys Belfort.
by Cole on Oct 1, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Cole Henderson was able to control Silva the first round last time they fought then he gased in the second much like he did against rampage in a close fight I gaurantee his cardio won’t be a factor so early in the 2nd fight but Silva does wear down wrestlers but not that early in a fight. As soon as Belfort won as Dana jumped on the opportuniity to get Silva in the octagon again against a fresh exciting fighter rather than go with the man that has earned it I can’t blame him though because he went with what the majority of fans wanted to see even before the Franklin fight a lot of fans stated Belfort had the best chance after belforts fight against Lindland.
by Puck Head on Oct 1, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
From a business standpoint I understand why Dana wants to match Silva with Belfort. I just think that Dan is the rightful opponent and has earned it. In the end, it is what it is. I just honestly don’t see Belfort being competitive in the fight. I think Dan will bring a much tougher fight.
by Cole on Oct 1, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
irishmikey, it works both ways hendo, was basically handed a LHW title shot, and a MW shot when he first came here from pride, without having to prove himself in the UFC, so what is wrong with vito doing it. Belfort is not the same fighter from yrs ago, he has destroyed evry fighter in his last few fights, even franklin, a fighter that was picking hendo apart, and should have won that fight was destroyed within a fewe minutes. The fans want to see someone new face anderson. JUST like anderson leapfrogged when he fought franklin for a title shot, it was because people realized he was a new breed of fighter, and regardless of record, he deserved a title shot. I personally dont want to see hendo try and take andy down, and cover his mouth, and once they stand get destroyed again, i think andy would do it quicker this time. ITS A 5 ROUND FIGHT WHICH MEANS the fight starts standing, i just dont see hendo keeping andy down for five rounds, in a few seconds in the standup, hendos wild swinging, put ting his head down and charging would be met with a brutal beatdown by anderson.
by dtoto on Oct 1, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Spot on mate, if anyone has been given preferential treatment regarding title fights in the past it’s Dan. He has to beat a top 5 MW (a dubious decision over the now 205 Franklin doesn’t count and wasn’t as impressive as Vitor’s win over Rich anyway) to earn another crack at the belt, which is why he should fight Nate. Both are at the same level ranking wise and match up well with each other so it would be a sick fight and would make a rematch with Andy for the winner a lot more meaningful so more people would buy the card than if either man was fastracked to a title fight.
by David W-S on Oct 1, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
dtoto is 100% correct. I forgot how easily Dan got the title shots.
by Natas on Oct 1, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nate hasn’t fought the quality of fighters Henderson has the best fighter Nate beat is Maia and the best fighter maia has beat is who? The talent that Nate has faced isn’t even close to what Henderson has faced Bisping and Nate would be a good fight.
by Puck Head on Oct 1, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Marquardt will beat Dan so all of you hoping he’s going to get another shot at the belt can keep holding your breath.
by Team Greg Jackson Fan on Oct 1, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
marquart will get knocked the fuck out by hendo, but the winner will never get another crack at anderson if he retires after this contract. this is anderson’s last fight at middlewieght and it should be against henderson.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana’s makin a mistake with this move. Think about this scenario…Dan walks…Anderson destroys Belfort…and Marquardt is left standing in the cold until April…May. Give Dan what he wants and make him happy but don’t piss him off to the point he wants to walk. People want to see him fight and Strikeforce will grab him up without hesitation.
by knowone on Oct 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Belfort has only lost by ko/tko twice in his career (out of 9 career losses) both to Randy Couture.
by JRE on Oct 1, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
he held on to dan for dear life in their fight.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yes conan, but how many yrs ago was that? Im sure chonan also beat anderson several yrs ago, but does anyone think he , along with any other fighter Anderson has ever lost to could beat him today? The point is fighters evolve at different rates, clearly belfort is a different fighter, and has improved tremendiously the last 3 yrs, in the meantime hendo has only gotten older and slower and hasnt evolved at all. I think if they fought today vito would win, but regardless of that, fights are about styles, and i think most fans would rather see two exciting strikers, than dan doing nothing on the ground, and getting beat up in the standup. If Hendo beats marquardt he gets the next title shot, so what is he whining about. He got two immediate title shots when he first came over from pride, now he is crying that someone with a more exciting style is getting a shot, even though he was destroyed bt andy the first time? Realistically what has hendo done to improve himself, and make anyone think the outcome wouldnt be the same, or even far worse this time if he fought andy.
by dtoto on Oct 2, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
His first fight back was for the belt and also his second. He had two back to back shots at either belt and he blew both. I’d rather give him more money than a title shot next.
by Michael on Oct 1, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Dan (although the Pride belt holder) jump to the front of the line too?
by Jeff on Oct 1, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Money is tough to comment on…he was making somewhere in the range of 200,000-300,000 per fight/base…imo thats fair for someone in the UFC thats not a title holder…he apparently wants more. That being said, I also feel as though he deserves the next title shot. Dan/Andy followed by Vitor. Nate is in a tough boat. As much as I would look forward to Vitor/Nate, I don’t thinks its viable as someone would need to lose thus the UFC loses another contender for Andy/Dan.
I also wonder if Dana/Joe/Lorenzo actually knew (or remembered) that Dan had beaten Vitor before. I can’t see how that would be something they didn’t know or remember.
by McArthur on Oct 1, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
Dan and the UFC are having a hard time finding a opponent that will please the majority of fans. I think hendersons right and I guarantee if the UFC can’t keep him happy Strikeforce is desperate for fighters and would be willing to give a legend like Dan a big contract. I agree with Dan he should be the next in line and Marquardt and Belfort should duke it out for the next opportunity.
by Puck Head on Oct 1, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
hendo vs rashad at 205 is a great matchup
hendo vs randy 205
hendo vs forrest
hendo vs wand 3
hendo vs rosholt
hendo vs luiz cane
hendo vs stann
hendo vs nate
plenty of fights that would be exciting to watch, maybe dan wouldnt fight a couple but still all fights with intrigue to them
by randy murders on Oct 1, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I like all of those fights other than Rosholt and Stann as neither have any business fighting Hendo. I may dislike him but he’s still a top 3 MW and arguably a top 5 LHW even if he’s past his prime and overrated by some, so he should only be facing quality fighters. I’d also like to see Hendo-Belfort 2 at some point to see how much Vitor has improved, personally I think that Vitor is a much better fighter now than he was when they last fought and Dan hasn’t gotten any better.
by David W-S on Oct 1, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
hendo made a 100,000 grand for his fight with bisbing not 200 or 300 get ur shit right.
by keef on Oct 1, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
How bad did Henderson beat Vitor? Did he kick his ass, or did he just lay on him? I’ve heard alot of people use the argument that Dan already beat Vitor, but I never saw the fight.
by djn720 on Oct 1, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
HENDERSON VS BELFORT PRIDE 32
http://static.youku.com/v1.0.0057/v/swf/qplayer.swf?VideoIDS=XMTA0NDk2NDg4&embedid=MTMwLjE3OS4yNi4xNTQCMjYxMjQxMjICd2luZ24uY29tAi9zdG9yeS5waHA=&showAd=0
Watch Hendo lay on a sweaty dude for 30 minutes!
by Colin D on Oct 1, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I figured, I wouldn’t use this to back up my argument if I was Dan. This was worse than Roy vs Kimbo. at least Roy finished the fight!
by djn720 on Oct 1, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
get the fuck out of here. he won a couple of those rounds 10-8. that was hardly lay and pray. vitor was stalling like a little bitch. votor got his ass whooped standing up and on the ground. watch the fight again.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the lack of respect some people have for controlling fighters from the top. Don’t like it? Don’t watch MMA. Try K-1.
by Demtor on Oct 1, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Decision I believe. But I do not remember the fight in Pride…
by Bob Lawblah on Oct 1, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hendo deserves a shot for sure, If he goes and wrestles Anderson down for 5 rounds with out standing and limiting thestriking he can win the title. Nate would not be able to do so.
by Austeen on Oct 1, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
i thin anderson’s people think that is a real possibility, which is why they refused to give dan a rematch. bitch by silva even faked an injury to get out of that fight.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think what really cemented the deal on Vitor getting a title shot was the direct shot to the back of Rich’s head when he went down. I mean come on, you can’t deny someone who blatantly punches a guy while he is down, in the back of his opponent’s head, a title shot.
by Get Donkey Punched by Vitor on Oct 1, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
Lets face it Dan got screwed by Dana White. If I was Dan I would go fight elsewhere. If you have watched the way they treat Henderson from the begininng it was as if he was seen as a nobody. I think the UFC has screwed with him since day 1. Henderson and Marquardt would be a great fight but not before Henderson got his shot at the Spider that Dana said was his. This is a business Hendo has nothing to gain fighting Marquardt if he loses he is screwed and if he wins he gets what should already be his “a title shot”. I like leaving Hendo and Marquardt as contenders against Anderson. If they fight each other we have noone at 185 to watch basically what has happened at 170.
by Long John on Oct 1, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
They didn’t treat him like he was nobody. He came in advertised as the man that stopped Wanderlei. The man who holds two belts at the same time in two divisions. Then he went on to lose both belts one after another. That didn’t look good. Dana White never said Dan gets the title next, he just stated that it is a possibility. It was Silva’s management that wanted him to fight Nate first. Now as far as Vitor fighting Silva, he deserves it. Vitor is on a five fight winning streak. Both Dan and Nate have won three fights in a row. Sure Dan beat Vitor, but Anderson hasn’t. Aderson has beat both Dan and Nate. Vitor has stopped four out of five fights. So yeah, Vitor should fight him first.
by James on Oct 2, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he derserves it but i really don’t wanna see a rematch i would rather see silva face belfort but yes id he faces nate and wins then i do think he is clear cut choice but right now there is no clear cut choice
by bryant on Oct 1, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
Should of give him a Bisping rematch in the UK im guessing not many of you would say you don’t want to see that rematch ;)
by Tony on Oct 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions
Dana should just forget about Hendo. I for one do not care about him at all. The only decent performance in recent times was against the most overrated Nothing-Fighter in Michael Bisping.
Henderson will never hold the title in the UFC and should not get paid a lot since he just isn’t worth it. No loss for the UFC.
I would like to see Dan get signed by Strikeforce and fight Mousassi, so that Gegard can beat his old ass into retirement.
Dan’s good times are behind him. Let Belfort have a shot and then a younger, hungrier Nate who is actually improving. I believe UFC fans like the Great better anyways.
Hendo is a historic great future Hall-Of-Famer. But history is past… Nate is the future.
by Instant_Noodle on Oct 1, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
And I think Anderson, Nate and Vitor would all hand Dan a loss. Dan thinks he is worth more than he is.
by Adam T. on Oct 1, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, silva is the only guy out of those three with a chance of beating hendo.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that all may be true, but it would nice to see it proven or proven untrue.
by roy on Oct 1, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone would love to see Henderson vs Marquadt.
Give him big money, he deserve it he is a veteran then winner get Silva/Belfort.
I think all the talks is only for negociations. Dan is not going anywhere fuck that.
The real question is :
is he thinking about taking a break and wait after 108 to fight ?
by Daddy Lupo on Oct 1, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
i’d rather see spider get marquardt next. OR hendo v marquardt for the next shot.
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i don’t care for hendo. (many reasons)
but he is right.
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vitor SHOULD NOT get the next shot.
by frank on Oct 1, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
Since the loss to Anderson, here are Hendo and Marquardt’s records:
Marquardt: 4-1 wins over Horn, Kampmann, Gouviea, and Maia. Split decision loss to Leites
Hendo: 3-0 wins over Palheres, Franklin, Bisping.
It’s tough to call because both have gripes to fight Anderson.
Level of competition is tough to call. Marquardt lost earlier to Silva, so naturally he’s had more fights since. I think Hendo would defeat all of the guys Marquardt has fought. I think Marquardt would defeat 2 out of 3 guys Hendo has fought (Franklin would beat him in my opinion).
I’d be upset too if I was Dan. First, Dana promised Bisping a title shot if he beat Hendo. Hendo KO’s him and Dana promises Hendo a Title shot. Then Marquardt ko’s Maia, who has zero standup, and Hendo is passed up simply because he fought Bisping earlier than Marquardt fought Maia. Both KO’s were sick. Both are deserving for a rematch with Maia.
But it does come down to ratings. If Belfort – Silva is a bigger payday, so be it. I think Anderson is gonna pick apart Belfort. In my opinion, the only man who can beat Anderson at 185 is Hendo.
by Bob Lawblah on Oct 1, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions
Dan is 100% correct. I dont think he would be as mad but Dana always promises guys title shots with impressive victories. Vitor Belfort has done nothing to deserve a title shot and has never been that good. Dan Henderson or Nate Marquardt will not get a title shot until Anderson Silva is out of the UFC. When Anderson smashes Vitor, he will be back up to LHW or even HW. Dana wants big money fights and thats always the way it will be.
by Kilby on Oct 1, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions
Exactly Kilby. The UFC doesn’t really need to hype up Hendo. His record and his opponents speak for themselves. He’s fought everybody.
Honestly, I don’t see Belfort having much of a chance. One of Belfort’s greatest strengths, his aggressiveness, plays into Anderson’s gameplan. Hopefully I’m wrong(I want to see Anderson fight at 205 consistently)
by Bob Lawblah on Oct 1, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The UFC goes with what the majority of fans want wich usually is the best fight anyway but in this case not many of the casual fans realize what Dan has done in the past and is capable of as many didn’t even know Dan has beat Vitor. with Dan coming in with a bad performance against Rampage and his loss to Silva then a close win and lack luster performance over Silva Dan didn’t gain a lot of attention from the casual fan or newer MMA fans. A win against Marquardt will bring a lot of much deserved attention back to Dan. For those of you that have seen him fight in Pride know he has the ability to beat the Spider but he needs to prove that he has the endurance that is going to be needed unless Silva sticks his head out like he did against Forrest were Dan would make him pay by putting him to sleep.
by Puck Head on Oct 1, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
above should read -lack luster performance over Franklin
by Puck Head on Oct 1, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No chance Andy tries that tactic on a heavy handed puncher like Dan, he only did that because Forrest was out on his fight, throwing wreckless punches that wouldn’t have hurt him even if they did connect.
I haven’t seen Dan show anything in the UFC to make me worry about Andy’s chances, sure he has a big overhand right but the only guy he’s caught with that recently was Bisping when he basically ran into the punch. He’s got great wrestling but hasn’t finished anyone recently on the ground and wouldn’t be able to finish Andy as he’s too good off his back. Cardio has been a concern in all of his fights, other than the Bisping one where he hardly broke a sweat and the fight never made it to the final round. In a 5 round fight Dan’s going to gas and get picked apart on the feet before being finished on the ground, just as he was at UFC 82.
Since the Pride days Hendo’s not improved and Andy’s become a world class well rounded fighter, Hendo will always be dangerous at 185 or 205 but isn’t good enough to dethrone Andy or Lyoto and would have a hard time with other top contenders like Nate.
by David W-S on Oct 1, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You probally right but I think Henderson can still beat Belfort and Nate Hendersons defence and counter punching against strikes is very underated and one of the best in MMA to say he’s going to beat Silva is naive on any fighter for that matter at 185 but I believe he has the best chance. I don’t think he’ll have any problems with Nate even though nate is a good fighter his strikes would not be effective against Henderson and if the fight was to get to the ground it will be with Hendo on top. Belfort would be a close one as the are both experienced fighters that know each others styles I just feel Henderson has the ability to control Belfort as well.
by Puck Head on Oct 1, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan and Nate both had their chances and they were both totally destroyed. Dan won the 1st round against Silva(by laying on him) but was totally out-classed and finished in the 2nd. Vitor knocked out Franklin cold and alot of people thought Franklin beat Henderson (me included). Why should Nate or Dan get a 2nd chance when others haven’t even had their first yet. I didn’t see Vitor/Henderson fight but I’m guessing Dan layed on him for three rounds, which is hardly impressive. (If that’s how it happened). Dana said Dan would be next in line, but that was before Nate’s KO (which was more impressive), and then Vitor comes along. That changes things and rightfully so. Who ever the champ is is going to have to beat everyone anyways so Dan should hurry up and sign so he can get started.
by djn720 on Oct 1, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
So Dan is whining again, despite being given two consecutive title fights, both of which he lost, before he’d even had a fight in the UFC. People criticise Randy for getting so many title fights without doing anything to deserve it but if Hendo got another then that would be 3 title fights in 6 UFC fights. Laughable, Hendo is so arrogant it’s unreal, he is one of the best paid non-title holders in the company and has already had 2 UFC title fights yet he refuses to fight the top contender to earn a shot and complains when a guy he beat 4 years ago is getting the fight instead, ignoring the impressive wins Vitor had over Lindland and Franklin and bringing up an irrelevant fight. He gets on my nerves the more I hear from him, acting as if it’s his right to rematch Andy without having earned it.
Nobody got given as big fights as Dan did when they debuted after fighting in Pride, even Lesnar had to have some fights to earn a title fight, so the UFC have already given him great opportunities and paydays. I don’t see why he won’t fight Nate and to me he’s showing a lot of disrespect to Marquardt and Belfort by dismissing their title credentials and trying to get out of fighting the former.
It makes me laugh how the same people who whined when Bisping was promised a title fight for beating Dan claim that he deserves a title fight for beating Bisping, neither of them deserved it in all honesty.
by David W-S on Oct 1, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
Again, those weren’t title “shots”. Dan was the standing champion in both those divisions when PRIDE was subsumed into the UFC. PRIDE wasn’t some 2nd rate org like SF or EliteXC, it was an equal superpower. It only made sense to unify the titles. Those weren’t favors for Dan, they were long awaited dream-matches that fans had been begging for for a decade.
by shonuff on Oct 1, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally understand what Dan is saying about fighting Nate. He has no problem fighting Nate, but where’s the guarantee that he’ll get a shot after that. He was already guaranteed a shot if he beat Bisping. Dana renegged. He knows that now while he’s negotiating a contract, is the only way to get a written guarantee. Otherwise fighting Nate is a waste of his time as there are much more important and better paying fights at 205.
by shonuff on Oct 1, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
As far as statements from a fighter – this has to be the most intelligent I have ever read. Hendo manages to spell it out without being offensive. Diplomatic and to the point. I definitely agree that Hendo deserves the fight.
by TapedUpPair on Oct 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
Tapedup, you’re right on. Hendo is a pro who articulates his points well. He does deserve it but most people dont’ want to watch it again. I really don’t care to see Vitor vs silva either.
by Blood Clot on Oct 1, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks BC. I dont understand why people did not like the first fight (I guess I need to go back and watch it?) When I consider how he went up and down in weight classes and fought while his wife was getting ready to give birth, I think I give Hendo a pass on focus and conditioning. When one considers the totality of Hendo’s work, his last three fights, and how he went up and down in weight classes, I think you have to give it to him. I really like Vitor, but I rather he fight Marquett and prove his metal over a few rounds rather than jumping to any conclusions by assessing the fight where he landed an early punch.
by TapedUpPair on Oct 1, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
lets see nate ko henderson it wont happen jackson wasent able to do it silva wasent able to do it either he is like hitting fire hydrant I say scew it henderson should take on the shogun machita winner and if henderson moved over to strikeforce he could have the biggest match in mma history against fedor yes he would match up good against fedor
by alpha on Oct 1, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
The UFC is pissed off that Hendo knocked out the Bisping (the UFC/UK’s golden boy). This is their revenge…..lol
by ducknow on Oct 1, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
why doesn’t Hendo fight the winner or Shogun vs Machida for that belt? or even Evans to replace Rampage?
by Luis on Oct 1, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
I think the only thing keeping Hendo at MW is that he thinks he’s closer to a title shot there. If Dana & Silva keep screwing him over, he’ll move up to LHW. He has as good a chance against Machida as he does against Silva, there are just more guys standing in his way. At least there were. With Vitor now in MW and Silva ducking, and with Rampage out of the picture at LHW, he might get a shot at Machida sooner than he will against Silva.
by shonuff on Oct 1, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Hendo, Belfort does not deserve a shot this quick. He should need to win two or three fights, Nate definitely desrrves the shot first. Silva will kill Belfort quick and easy. I still think there was something fishy about the Franklin Belfort fight, Rich does not lose like that EVER!!! I think he took a dive for one reason or the other or so that Belfort could have his shot. 1st time in the history of the UFC I have ever felt sketched out about a fight or how it ended or why it ended the way it did.
by Spyder on Oct 1, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
Silva got his title shot after one fight in the UFC
by djn720 on Oct 1, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Eventually every fighter can lose in an unexpeted fashion. Everyone thought Mike Tyson was unbeatable and then a journeyman Buster Douglas knocked him into next week. Saying Franklin took a dive is frankly ludicrous. He got caught by a guy with very fast hands who has KO power. No big mystery.
by MK on Oct 1, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
he also has had alot of tough fights lately and he is getting older.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 1, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally would rather see Dan leave the UFC and go work for Dream/Strikeforce. I’m sure there is a barrel of cash waiting for him over in Japan and he would own the Middleweight Division in Strikeforce. It’s pretty apperent he is never going to be treated fairly by the UFC.
by markie on Oct 1, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
Belfort absolutely does not deserve a titleshot.
Id like to see Hendo get the next shot followed by Nate.
Belfort needs 1-2 more wins.
But the UFC loves padding Silvas record so here we go.
by Lester The Pimp on Oct 1, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions
Any other rematches you would like to see before we get some new blood in the cage with Silva? Perhaps since Cote didn’t really lose to him he should be next? What do you think will happen differently when Silva fights Nate and Dan this time? At least we will get to see how Silva’s style matches up against Belfort style in this fight. Dan didn’t get screwed, he will get a title fight if he beats Nate. He needs to be patient, would you shell out 45 bucks to see Dan vs. Spider? I wouldn’t, but I will for Spider vs. someone I haven’t seen him embarrass already. Why hasn’t anyone cried about Okami not getting a shot after he’d won 7 or 8? Okami can’t sell against Spider either.
by jay on Oct 1, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, Lester, the UFC has definitely been padding Silva’s record. Dan was the last decent challenger he had. (No disrespect to Forrest, but he was stylistically hand-picked to make Silva look good.)
by shonuff on Oct 1, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a bigger Vitor fan that Hendo fan, but I have to agree that Dan deserves the title shot over Vitor. Keep it as fair as possible, please!
by poyb on Oct 1, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions
Belfort gets a title shot after one fight in the UFC, at catchweight? If Henderson and UFC don’t come to terms, I would like to see Henderson fight Filho in Dream or Strikeforce.
by Belisarius on Oct 1, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions
belfort almost didnt make waight at 195, now hes getting a shot at the 185 title? what the fuck is this? what a fucking joke.i think dan has done a lot for them! first he comes here and puts his 205 title on the line without a warm up fight and loses and then comes right back and puts his 185 pound title on the line without a worm up fight and loses that and never complained, i think he was used!! dana’s pissed at rampage for not sticking to his word so he should live by the same standards! fuck dana
by joe daddy on Oct 1, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions
If hendo beats Marquardt and then the winner between Vitor and Anderson, then he really is the man. I agree he should have gotten the first shot. Anyway, I hope he stays in the UFC. Since there is so much talent in that division, they should fight more often.
by capt doug on Oct 1, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
ok look when ufc bought pride. henderson was both the middleweight champ and light heavy champ ok so thats why he junped to the front of the line. he was ahead of everyone becuaqse he wasa champ of an organization that was took over by ufc so thats why they gave him title shots at the top of line so we could find out the undisputed champ.
why does every one forget bout this? it was only a few years ago or you people just obvisoulsy don;t pay attention and just talk shit
by keef on Oct 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
just another way dana white is messin up the ufc. after all the shit he is putting rampage through. and brock gets a title fight after 2 fights. its all about who dana likes, gets to fight!!! its really makin me not want to even watch anymore. the people who deserve a shot dont get it cuz what?? dana said so. thats such bull! F*** dana white.
by b-dog on Oct 1, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
dana is pissed that dan knocked out bisbing in such a devastating fashion. dan pretty mush single handedly derailed ufc’s brittish expansion, which is gonna cost them hundreds of millions in the long run. i think dana is out to screw him now. how the hell do you not even give a fighter like hendo a call to let him know what is up??
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 1, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
nate will beat hindo and he will also beat vitor. vitor is old and just because he went through franklin another old fighter just trying to hang on and figure out where he belongs anymore, does not mean he deserves a shot, those punches were sloppy. anderson silva would crush vitor, he is not the same vitor he once was he is a lot slower. nate is over looked because a lot of people dont know anything of him the guy was k.o.p 7 years in a row he is a new person after his loss to silva, he has crushed every opponent since then except the loss to thales, but that was B.S.. the second point that was taken away was not even an illegal blow. nate dominated that whole fight and his hand should have been raised at the end. nate gets over looked because he does not fill seats. nate is the best well rounded fighter of the three and just because he does not sell the tickets he gets bumped around all the time. bottom line it should be hindo vs. nate winner gets silva, vitor needs to prove himself some more with a few more fights… in the end nate will end up with the belt he was the only one to take anderson down twice and he was winning that fight untill one little slip, but thats all it takes in the ufc… bottom line nate the great will be champion soon enough and he deserves it… but vitor is gonna look like a fool like franklin, griffin, and irvin…
by rodgangeles on Oct 2, 2009 1:14 AM EDT reply actions
Anderson is 2 years older than Vitor and only 5 months younger than Franklin!
Nate has not yet beaten anyone that would put him on the level with Vitor, Hendo, or Silva. It remains to be seen whether or not he can hang at that level. Maybe so, but he hasn’t proven it yet.
by shonuff on Oct 2, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
and one more thing who is bisping? nobody? he lost to hamil but the brits gave him the win cause it was on his home turf i dont even think the guy is top 10 middle weights… he has not fought any quality fighters and when he did ko first round, by what over hand right, who the hell is his boxing coach, hello…. thats one of hindos strongest moves, he looked like a chicken with his head off running around that whole fight.. im so pissed the axe murder has to get surgery or else he would have smashed him again…
by rodgangeles on Oct 2, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions
Soooooooooo sick of Dan Henderson and all the the yanks whining on he shud get a title shot!! Why shud he! Hes had 2 title shots already…He would get SMASHED of silva if they ever fight again hes guna get beat off Nate no question. He was very lucky to get the decision win over Franklin and it took him til the 2nd round to knock out Bisping who was baisically walking into his right hand for the entire fight! Maybe his fat american head will shrick a little when Nate put an end to his Title shot claims!
by Robbo on Oct 2, 2009 5:17 AM EDT reply actions
No way does Hendo deserve another shot at silva unless he fights and beats nate, which he won’t. He’s duckin nate cos he knows he’ll lose and his last chance at a title in the UFC will be gone, he pretty much got two title shots back to back for the LHW and MW belts and lost both, everyone knows he lost against rich aswell so he’s basically he thinks he deserves a shot based on beating palhares and bisping (who was shot to shit with nerves and more or less let hendo beat him, bisping would win a re-match). All this talk of wanting a contract which shows how much he is worth is bullshit, outside of the hardcore fans he’s not a big draw, let him piss off to strikeforce and fight nobodies until he retires, call his bluff Dana!!!!!
by Big C on Oct 2, 2009 5:40 AM EDT reply actions
Hendo should make the jump to Strikeforce and put a serious dent in the UFCs armor.
Both he and Rampage deserves a fair amount of respect for their records and shouldn’t have to deal with being treated like punks. Add Wandy and Nog to the mix and the core MMA audience would be jumping ship faster than Dana can say “f**k me”.
You don’t treat warriors like slaves Dana…
by Tom on Oct 2, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions
If Dana was seriously interested in keeping things fair and even he should’ve let Hendo fight Vitor for the title shot btw. Why feed him a guy who’s already lost to Hendo as well as losing to Hendo himself?
by Tom on Oct 2, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Well if they had Henderson vs Vitor you know Henderson will win again and it will be another Anderson vs Henderson match again…
And to tell you the truth I don’t want to see Anderson own Henderson again, I’m sure he learned from the first fight how Henderson fights and will switch it up on Henderson and win again…
What I been waiting to see is Anderson own Vitor!!! Just because Vitor has the fastest hands don’t mean he’s an all around good fighter like Anderson…
by Json on Oct 2, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
i’m sure hendo has made adjustments as well. silva doesn’t want to fight him, that alone should make this fight happen. hendo is the only guy in the world that silva doesn’t want to fight! no one can argue against that. silva has fakes an injury and HIS OWN MANAGEMENT came up with the hendo vs. nate fight!!!!!! wake up people. hendo is dangerous as hell for silva. he has the wrestling to give silva trouble and he is always one big punch away from ending a fight.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 2, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions
i’m sure hendo has made adjustments as well. silva doesn’t want to fight him, that alone should make this fight happen. hendo is the only guy in the world that silva doesn’t want to fight! no one can argue against that. silva has fakes an injury and HIS OWN MANAGEMENT came up with the hendo vs. nate fight!!!!!! wake up people. hendo is dangerous as hell for silva. he has the wrestling to give silva trouble and he is always one big punch away from ending a fight.
by Conan the Barbarian on Oct 2, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions
conan ur right. everyone else on here talks shit. becuase their on andersons dick. henderson has the capability to defeat anyone he is hands down one of the best wrestlers period. and is always one shot away from ending a fight and not only with his right hand. how did he knock out wand? with a left.
by keef on Oct 2, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
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