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K-1 draws World GP 2009 Final 8 for Dec. 5 event

The winners of the Final 16 tourney have gathered to partake in the tournament draw to determine the match-up and the bout order for the K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 Final 8 from Japan's Yokohama Arena on December 5.

The fighters picked numbered balls, and in the ascending order of the numbers on the balls, chose the block in which they will fight. There are four blocks, with each block containing red and blue corners that represent the slots in which the fighters enter -- the slots are thus labeled A to H, with the first block containing A and B, the second containing C and D, and so on.

Depending on the luck of the draw, a fighter could pick an opponent whom he has a good chance of dispatching without incurring much damage, while tougher opponents square off against each other in other quarterfinal bouts. As the combat sport truism states, anything can happen in K-1 bouts, but needless to say, the outcome of the draw contributes to how the tournament unfolds.

Badr Hari, who had the fastest finish of the night (KO at 2:15 of round 1), was awarded the first pick. Following Hari, the other seven fighters picked the balls in the order that they fought on Saturday night, as their bouts all ended in decision (Ewerton Teixeira picked last, as his bout reached the extra rounds).

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Ruslan Karaev picked the ball with the smallest number. Predictably, he chose the red corner of block 1, or slot A, for the first fight of the night: By picking the first fight of the night, he will have at least three fights to rest before fighting in the semifinal, should he win the fight.

Badr Hari ended up with the second smallest number, and thus had the next pick. Without hesitation, he chose the blue corner of block 1 for the rubber match with Karaev. Hari and Karaev have split the two fights 1-1: In the second meeting at the K-1 World Grand Prix 2007 in Yokohama, they enthralled the crowd with a fierce barn burner in which they traded knock downs.

Errol Zimmerman had the third pick and chose block G for the last of the four quarterfinal bouts. The reigning WGP champion, Remy Bonjasky picked fourth, and surprisingly, threw down the gauntlet to Zimmerman.

Jerome LeBanner, coming off the memorable bout with Musashi, had the fifth pick and entered himself in the red corner of the block 3 (slot E). Semmy Schilt picked sixth and headed for block 3 for the fourth bout with LeBanner: Schilt has won all three bouts with LeBanner thus far.

The remaining two fighters, Alistair Overeem and Ewerton Texeira, settled in block 2 for the second quarterfinal bout.

Side A:
Badr Hari vs Ruslan Karaev
Ewerton Texeira vs Alistair Overeem

Side B:
Jerome LeBanner vs Semmy Schilt
Remy Bonjasky vs Errol Zimmerman

For more on the K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 click here.

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im hoping hari will fight overeem, with the winner fighting bonjasky

by day1er on Sep 27, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

lol at Overeem and all the steroids he’s taking.

by SHORT_BUS on Sep 27, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

K-1 fighters are tested. It’s not public info usually b/t FEG and fighters but their purse is penalized. Big Names who’ve been caught – Leko and Venetiaan as proof. End thread/

by NameNotRequired on Sep 27, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. Test, but it’s private = they don’t care.

by slap yo mammy on Sep 27, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

K-1 fighters are tested depending on where they fight. Overeem is on steroids, if you’re denying that u deserve to get shot to death literally.

by RoBerto on Sep 27, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Show me proof other than “he looks big to me” and “no one gets that big in 3 years.” Track his weight from weigh-in to weigh-in instead of guessing. Until I see a dirty test then i guess i deserve to be shot to death.

by NameNotRequired on Sep 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look, Overeem knows that we know so stop protecting him. He even laughs when hes confronted about it and says it cuz of horse meat. More like horse sh#t.

by BoBBy on Sep 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

NNR how dare you require proof for these allegations!!! dont you know that if you look big you use steroids! duh!!!

by brendan on Sep 27, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He isn’t just big, he’s BIG! his whole bodytype has completely changed over the years and now he’s almost 30 or something! right now what you need is proof to show me that he hasn’t done steroids

by RoBerto on Sep 27, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t even know what “he’s BIG” means- so is Lesnar or Carwin. He’s always been massive. He use to kill himself tryin to make 203 even after leaning out. He gained 25-30 lbs of muscle in 3 years. Stop looking at pictures and start reading the numbers. Innocent til proven guilty sir!

by NameNotRequired on Sep 27, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest Griffin is massive too but he would never become that big if he stopped dropping weight..
What he weighs in at is not the issue, it’s how he’s become a bodybuilder with so low % of bodyfat being that big..

by RoBerto on Sep 27, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you go by that standard and you’ll be fooled for the rest of your life.. 30lbs of muscle is pretty damn unbelievable for an “old” man like Alistair and how he never gets tired being that big is also unbelivable..

He is the most obvious roider in sports that i know of.. He is huge, ripped with no body fat!

don’t tell me he’s training harder than anyone in the world cause he isn’t, if it was that easy to gain muscles we’d see tons of athletes getting huge..

by RoBerto on Sep 27, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you tell me that gaining 30 lbs across 3 years which he began at 26 is impossible then i don’t know what to say. You don’t need to train harder than anyone else to do that. Everyone around here knows that i am the first person to shut up if you bring me the evidence. Everything seems to line up with the timeframe. He has consistently increased by 5-6lbs between each weigh in since pride collapsed(i checked when i got into it with some else here, you can too). Once He went heavyweight he said he would change his workout regiment because he didn’t need to lean out first and drop the remaining water weight to get to LHW. But we will see after the GP when he fights here in the states.

by NameNotRequired on Sep 27, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

the thing about him consistently increasing 5-6lbs between each weigh-in isn’t much to defend him with, more the other way around if u ask me. I also never knew becoming that muscular would give u that much better cardio either, I thought it was the other way around.

by RoBerto on Sep 28, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

my prediction btw, is that he never fights in the US again.

by RoBerto on Sep 28, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

roberto and nnr, u both make very valid points in ur debate..

well i personally suspect overeem to be using, it doesn’t take away from the FACT that he has never popped a test..

plus it is possible to gain that type of muscle mas over 3 yrd..

i have to side with nnr on this debate, on account of facts..

but~ imo, overeem is juicing and will most likely not fight in the US~

by stinky~fingers on Sep 28, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

All of these posts are absolutely hilarious. My buddies and I were just talking about how Overeem’s clearly on steroids now and said everything that’s been said. I think one of the best ways to visually see the change in Overeem is to watch how he looks when he fought buentello and then look at him now. His head and neck have slowly come together as one. This picture I found shows even better his body’s evolution in time.
a href=“http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/9ho1oha1/mma/Overeem-Timeline.jpg”> Overeem Timeline

by TheGovernor11 on Sep 28, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha this is funny because I was just having this exact same conversation with a few of my buddies. Just check this picture. It shows that nice metamorphosis that Overeem takes. Overeem Timeline

by TheGovernor11 on Sep 28, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pictures at different angles and different lighting of him at different weight classes. Inadmissable proof!!! Maybe the world doping agency should replace their testing methods with your eyes.

by NameNotRequired on Sep 28, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Overreem from Strikeforce doesn’t even look like the same guy who beat Aerts, usually I’m not one for accusing fighters of being on the roids but man he has to be, you don’t look like that just by training hard. The fact that he only fights in Japan these days sums it up for me, if he was clean he would have had some recent fights in the US.

by David W-S on Sep 28, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

the world doping agency should keep an eye open at Overeem, he’s easily the biggest K-1 fighter, not the tallest but the biggest in terms of muscle mass..

by RoBerto on Sep 28, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

War Badr!

by Synyster on Sep 27, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

War Badr!

by RoBerto on Sep 27, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

they spelled opponents wrong on that picture on the far right.

by DirtyML on Sep 27, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

That is hilarious that you could notice that. LOL.

by jay on Sep 27, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Karaev
Overeem
Le Banner (hoping for the upset)
Bonjasky

by Belisarius on Sep 27, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

keep hoping, Schilt, Hari, Overeem, Bonjasky… all favorites of course!

by brendan on Sep 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the way the fights are picked is unfair and wrong. Curious about one thing though…this is an MMA site, so why are there always articles and stories about K1 and grappling tourneys but never boxing updates or Collegiate wrestling videos?? MANIA?? This isn’t KickBoxMania or AbuDhabiMania. Why do those two sports get so much love?

by jay on Sep 27, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Not only are they awesome, BUT both tournaments have mma fighters in them.

by Bill Maher on Sep 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be a lot of potential future MMA stars in a lot of sports that get no mention here. I’m not complaining in the slightest bit, just curious. All other major sports sites mention minor league scores and college scores, why not here?

by jay on Sep 27, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrestling is much harder to enjoy because the technical nuances are much more difficult to see and the result isn’t as dramatic as in sub grappling and kickboxing. Also the fact that a lot of MMA entrants come from these two is probly why mma site give dap to these two.

by NameNotRequired on Sep 27, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because they are all martial arts smarta$$!

by RoBerto on Sep 27, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay ur a clown. K1 is bigger than collegiate wrestling, its more entertaining, and its televised internationally.

This isn’t jayisaclownmania.com

by Jake Roberts Jr on Sep 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t ask a serious question? When you don’t know the answer to something where do you go to find the answer, smart guy? Of course it is bigger, they are professional athletes with sponsorships and it’s on tv. It still isn’t MMA is it?? There has to be sites devoted to K1 is there not? Just asking a question and if you don’t have the answer than skip me.

by jay on Sep 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

These match-ups were decided by lottery, each fighter drew a number and chose which slot they wanted to fight (red/blue corner and in which pool). Karaev drew first, Hari drew second and decided to fight Karaev. Zimmerman chose third and chose to fight in the last bracket. Bonjasky drew fourth and Zimmerman challenged him so he chose to fight Zimmerman. Le Banner 5th chose to fight in Pool B, Schilt went 6th and decided to challenge Le Banner. Since Texeira and Overeem were the last two left over, they were put in Pool A.

by Belisarius on Sep 27, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

The fight arrangements should be made with no influence from the fighters. You could go far in the tourney just from the pick you make. Seems unfair to the top guys who have to fight 2 top guys before the final, when you could fight two of the bottom tier guys to make the final. All because of the way the brackets are decided.

by jay on Sep 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like how the matchups are decided. It’s interesting to see who the fighters choose to face given the option. The tournament should be awesome this year. I’m hoping for a Hari/Overeem/Schilt/Remy final four.

by Metalnick on Sep 27, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think completely random is any more fair. This actually resulted in very fair matchups except for Lebanner who didn’t draw well. Tournaments based on rankings actually tend to put higher ranked guys vs lower ranked guys otherwise the match that determines the tournament would happen before the final or semi final and someone who doesn’t deserve could be in the final.

Badr is 1-1 vs Karaev, he’s probably favored to win but it isn’t an easy road. Then he could face Overeem who already knocked him out. How is that easy? Texeira looked bad vs Jadeep and I think he lost that fight and the judges robbed the other guy but the matchup with Overeem could be different. And that fight was made by default so its not like anyone chose an easier fight. Bonjasky already beat Overeem, Overeem already beat Badr. He will face Badr again if he’s good enough to win and that won’t be an easy fight despite what happened the first time.

Semmy vs Lebanner is a good fight for Semmy but it’s not like Lebanner would have an easier time dealing with Bonjasky. They could have made him face Zimmerman but Bonjasky wanted to fight him as did Zimmerman. Semmy also beat Bonjasky before and he would probably face him in the next bout anyway, else he faces Zimmerman who could use a strategy similar to what Badr used vs Semmy to knock him out just recently.

The only other option is to make Lebanner fight Texeira and make Overeem go to the other bracket but I don’t think that makes compelling fights at all.

by quidnunc on Sep 27, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

how come this isn’t jayisaclownmania.com

by Jake Roberts Jr on Sep 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Funnier the second time around for sure. Did you get worried that your awesome joke may have gotten caught in moderation and you didn’t want us to miss your big break into comedy?

by jay on Sep 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

how come this isnt jayisaclownmania.com?

by brendan on Sep 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I vote for the name change. It does have a nice ring to it.

by jay on Sep 27, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that Karaev seems to have learned a little defense, I like his chances to take the rubber with Badr. Very little hope for JLB in a rematch with Semmy, Overeem is going to murder Texeira, and Remy shouldn’t have any problems with Zimmerman. Definitely a great tournament this year.

by Speedy on Sep 27, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d have to totally agree.

by Mr. Jitters on Sep 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Badr Hari vs Tito Ortiz or Brendan Vera
Remy vs Dos Santos or Cain

Imagine if UFC could sign some of these guys.
The best strikers are still in K-1

by hatteras on Sep 27, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would anyone care if he was taking steroids? People need to get over it and accept alot of the best do things to get an edge. I think they should incourage steroid use to get better fights. Id buy a steroid league ppv.

by GINNY MCEYTIE on Sep 28, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Well it probably pisses people off to see a someone cheat and win against a legend and very obviously NOT a cheater like Aerts.

by Lester The Pimp on Sep 28, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, those are the worst drawings possible.

Its set up to have cheater Overeem and boring Bonjasky fight in the final.

Id like to see Hari or Bonjasky take out the most obvious case of steroids in the history of martial arts in the quarterfinals.

by Lester The Pimp on Sep 28, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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