UFC Quick Quote: What is Randy Couture going to do with Brandon Vera?

well theres something big coming up.what about a spot on the next tuf opposite gsp?he said its gonna be big so fingers crossed its not gonna be a let down.

Dan Hardy vs Thiago Alves…

Roberto, yes but still too big of an opponent I think. Scott, never ever.

My guess is Kos.

good idea roberto.scrap stun gun from the card and put daley against swick and alves/hardy, 2 cracking fights.strikers paradise!!frees p thiago up to rematch kos aswell.dont ask me about stun gun i havnt thought that far ahead lol

Scott, Hardy is nowhere near a title shot, he’s barely cracked the top 10. I agree that he should take a step-up in competition but he’s nowhere near facing GSP. He’ll probabaly face Kos as he wants to keep busy and doesn’t mind taking a fight in the UK on short notice, he even said that he’d fight in November. That fight could go either way, Hardy would outbox Kos if he goes for the KO but if he fights smart i.e. uses his wrestling, he’ll destroy Hardy with g&p and Dan will end up looking like Lytle by the end of that fight.

Daley might get fastracked onto the show as well because if the UFC is going to fill 105 with British fighters it might as well be with successful fighters and he’s the more likely opponent for Swick because he beat Kampmann. That fight makes more sense and stylistically interests me a lot more, although again I’d have to go with the AKA fighter simply because like Kos, Swick is more well rounded than Hardy and Semtex. Both fights would improve the card a lot though, if we are going to have British fighters competing at least give them some real competition against relatively big names.

Alves would be too much for either English fighter right now, I’d actually like to see him rematch Fitch. That way we can see how close either one is to earning a rematch with GSP because they are the only 2 vaguely marketable rematches and if GSP doesn’t move up will end up being his toughest opponents available, which shows how good GSP is because he walked through both of them.

David agree as always. Fitch-Alves 2 would be helpful at eliminating one of them for a while. The more I think about it the better Hardy-Kos sounds. Kos would probably keep it standing still trying to land that telegraphed over hand.

david i agree totally.hes nowhere near a title shot.maybe im getting ahead of myself but these are words that have come out of his mouth!!he said its big and for his fans to watch out.it could well be kos,hes fresh after his comfortable win,but weve got swick free and alves tentatively pencilled in to fight p.thiago.it could be one of those 2 who knows?id love to see any combo of alves/swick/hardy/daley.as i said stikers paradise!

Kos would be an idiot to fight like that, you’d think that he’d have learnt his lesson after being KO’d by Paulo. He may have power but he has no technique and just throws wild overhand rights, that may work against another grappler with poor striking like Trigg or Yoshida but against a good striker like Hardy that is a suicidal approach. If he takes him down then Josh will destroy Dan but there is a good chance that he will once again keep it on the feet. Should be a good fight either way and a massive opportunity for Hardy to make a statement.

When was the last time Kos came into a fight with a good game plan? If he fought Hardy he would believe he has the strikers edge and try to knock him out. I can’t remember the last time I saw Kos wrestle when he should, can you? Kos doesn’t have a lot of fans and knows he won’t gain any with GnP. He seems to want to put on exciting fights more so than winning a smart fought battle.

True jay haha Kos has awful gameplans or good ones that he ignores, though to be fair he did fight smart against Lytle and destroyed him with g&p leaving him a bloody mess. If he fights like that again then he wins, if he stands and bangs with Hardy then he gets KO’d in the same way as Paulo caught him.

Scott, if he said that then there’s a good chance that he was offered a bigger fight than Kim though it won’t be any bigger than Kos. Daley will probabaly get matched up with another quality striker like Swick or Alves, then Kim and Paulo could fight each other. Both guys need huge wins to even be mentioned in the same breath as GSP and even then they would need a years training in grappling straight to be competetive. Chances are both will be found out by superior grapplers like Fitch, but good luck to them both they are much better prospects than no-hopers like Kelly and big mouths like Bisping.

Is Hardy really that bad at getting up off his back? From the looks of BE, Hardy is going to be fighting Swick. They are fast tracking him after all. GO HARDY!

yeah since gonzaga broke his arm. I just think cutting the weight could be even more of a factor now than it was when he fought chuck.

Vera’s wrestling is underrated? I think its rated right where it should be. The only time we really seen any type of wrestling with him was the Reese Andy fight, which allowed us to gauge NOTHING from him, and the Jardine fight, where Jardine won all the wrestling exchanges. If Jardine can keep him against the fence and throw bombs in his face, then you better believe Randy will do the same thing. I don’t see how you say Vera is suited for Randy’s Greco-Roman wrestling style either. Explain please.

As far as Randy thinking he’s a striker, I’m kind of baffled at that as well. He spent the majority of the fight with Brock engaged in a wrestling battle, and there was plenty of dirty boxing, clinch, and takedowns in the Nog fight too. I’m only guessing here, but with Nog’s Legendary jits skills, Randy wanted to keep it upright where he might have had an advantage.

I’m not buying into the Vera hype train just yet. He may win, due to Randy finally being on the decline, but I think Randy has this. Vera hasn’t been overly impressive vs a decent fighter in years. Vera hasn’t showed the ability to end fights since he was a HW (excluding the leg kick tko), and Nog is the only person to outlast Randy.

I’m going to say Randy by TKO in the 3rd round.

Which probably means Vera is going to win, because I’m always wrong.

Vera is going to start with the leg kicks right away, Randy is going to grab one of those legs, bend it backwards and shove it right up his a ss. Randy has this fight in the bag. GNP FTW.

Vera is going to win! It’s physically impossible for Randy to win..

Roberto, why do you think that? Just curious. Randy is going to grind him down.

If anyone hasn’t noticed Randy’s declining reflexes, they aren’t paying attention. Randy may be just as explosive as he ever was, like he says he is and is probably more well rounded than ever, but he just doesn’t see them coming anymore. If Randy can’t see Nog’s punches coming, he will get eaten alive by Vera’s speed.

Gord we aren’t talking stand up though. Randy isn’t going to have the same game plan against Vera as he had against Nog. Vera is not Nog, same as Flo isn’t GSP.(BJ example purposes) Randy may be old and slower but he is still good enough to beat B level Vera. If Randy loses this fight he better retire. I just see this being a grappling match that Vera can’t win.

oh crap, both john and roberto agree with me. am in a twightlight zone episode? anyways, veras striking and reach are way too crisp for aging randy. hes more technical than nog and how many times did nog almost knock randy out. second KO/TKO. probably TKO

You guys haven’t all given up on Randy because he lost to Nog are you? When did Vera become a good fighter? How is Vera gonna keep Randy from dragging him to the ground? Crisp punches and kicks don’t mean anything when you are on your back!

Synyster nailed it. How is Vera one of the only people qualified to deal with Randy’s wrestling? Now Vera is one of the best wrestlers in the HW and LHW divisions combined? Is there something that has happened to Vera since the last time I seen him fight?

Again I agree with you jay, Vera has been outgrappled by all of his good opponents. Sylvia, Werdum and Jardine all nullified his offense and outgrappled him easily. This is the perfect fight for Couture, he is a master at bullying his opponent in the clinch and wearing them down. Vera is a mental midget and can’t handle it when things don’t go his way. He’ll be scared to throw kicks in case Randy catches them and takes him down, while his hands aren’t as powerful. Gonzaga broke Randy’s arm with a kick and was still taken down and roughed up. I see Vera once again being scared to engage against a superior grappler, getting worn out from Randy’s dirty boxing and taken down comfortably. Randy by decision all the way for me, hopefully this won’t be enough to earn him a title fight though as Machida or Shogun would both destroy him with ease.

Hard to believe I have all the same views as a young lad from England. I have never found a post that I could disagree with you on. Well spoken and maturity beyond your years.

Cheers mate, though I’m only well spoken and mature when I’m sober or not watching my favourite teams and fighters.

Go us David, for being young and knowing wtf we’re talking about!

Vera is quick but I don’t think he’s proven anything as of late either. He beat Krystof, BIG deal!

Vera did show some good take down defense with Krystof, other than that, I see Randy winning this one. Randy will eat some of those kick Vera will throw and close the gap, then its all over.

Haha! True words. Vera isn’t beating Machida in this lifetime, or any other. He may beat Randy, which I hate, because Randy is the man, and Vera is a b level fighter who somehow believes he can hold the lhw and hw titles.

Winner of the “I Sound Like a Stupid Moron Every Time I Speak” award is a tie between Vera, Rampage, and War Machine.

Gotta add BJ Penn, Brock and the Diaz bros. to that list. LOL.

Yeah but Brock and Penn have belts and are dominating weight classes to back it up at least. Not saying it is right but at least, =) . No excuse for the Diaz bros. although I love watching the both of them fighht especially Nick. He has become such a good all around fighter.

lol~ mexi!

it seems like we have been agreeing more often lately/

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i definitely give shogun more of a chance than most lhw’s..

plus shogun is my favorite fighter, so i gots to back him!~
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2009 is the year of the gun~

Anderson is without a doubt top in the top 3 at LHW.. I like him as the best, but since he and Machida are so close and have trained together for too long we won’t get to see it

Here here RoB, shame we’ll never see Andy-Lyoto, the closest we’ll ever get to seeing that fight in Andy-Vitor, unless Silva falls out with another of his mates.

The Lil Nog-Cane winner deserves to be a top contender, though the Nog Bros are both good friends with Andy so that may rule out a fight with Lyoto, though Banha doesn’t seem particularly close with any of the top Brazilian fighters as far as I know.

He dishes it out but don’t say anything to him, he is a very sensitive young man.

No one on this site is as annoying as Intro. Junkie has Nick H, I think it might be the same dude.

this john g guy pretty much thinks he owns and operates this site, i have read some of his coments where he basically says fock you when he dosent agree with someone, he’s a child, everyone here knows it and as jay says, he is sensitive so i better be carefull that he dosent take his ball and leave this site again, for like a day! GROW UP JACKASS

Relevance, do you remember that? He left and wouldn’t come back, saying BE is his only MMA site now. I hope he doesn’t see any of this or he won’t respond to any of our posts again. Must take a major dbag for a bunch of people who don’t know you to hate you. LOL at John.

he made his own bed, everyone knows this type of person, very sensitive prima donna persona, that whole fock you thing really pisses me off! im surprised BE even had him for that long, ive been coming to this site for about 3 years and rarley post, but seeing the evouloution of this jackass is just crazy, when did this turn into johngmania.com???

Guru: God, I was focking Joking. Sorry if I offended you, those werent my intentions at all man…Just poking fun. Attack me if you wish….but Im not into that!

Have a great day Jay

Relevance, same exact thing with me. I have been coming on here religiously for about 3 or 4 years and rarely post, I have always hated reading anything he says. There are a lot of great people in here but he sort of ruins it for most readers. He is just a young guy though so you gotta cut him a lot of slack. Bashing him and wasting your time and Manias threads bickering about him really bothers a lot of the other guys though so you just have to ignore him. John all my days are great days, thanks for the sentiment.

cheers my mma brother!

no hard feelings John. You do come off as a spoiled teenager sometimes though.

David, Kris is a bit better than a C. If Vera is B so is Kris. Vera just had him rattled in the head a little in that fight, fighting a ‘name’ opponent for the first time in the UFC does that to you. I am a fan of Kris and think he will continue to improve and impress. Didn’t everyone see Vera fight Reese? The way he was all tensed up and just standing there looked really weird to me.

Give Vera a pass on the Reese fight, it was his first time cutting.

Maybe it’s because of his stupid pranks on TUF but I can’t buy into Kris, he doesn’t have that great a record and hasn’t shown anything special in his fights. He’s got decent stand-up and a good kimura, but he’s only ever going to beat one dimensional fighters like Stann, Kingsbury and Bruchez and will always get found out by superior grapplers like Vinni or strikers like Vera. He’ll always be a solid fighter that the UFC can depend on to take a fight on short notice and try to make it exciting but he won’t ever give good well rounded fighters any trouble.

All true David. I just want the Canadian boy to do well. As I know you guys over there like seeing your boys do well. I guess I’m lucky though because at least we still have GSP. Hopefully Kris can continue to improve and impress as he is a nice guy who brings it.

The lighter weight classes are still exciting and proven draws, look at how well the PBF-JMM fight did compared to UFC 103. It’s the heavier classes where the problems arise as other than the Klitschko Bros there aren’t any boxers worth talking about, maybe Haye but since his CW days he hasn’t done anything other than talk. Boxing is still a big sport but the money is in the welterweight division not heavyweight.

MMA fans in general have a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately attitude. Because Wand has been on a bad streak losing to legends, he gets no respect.

So true, Jay! And so pathetic! It’s so annoying how so many fans on here rewrite a fighter’s net worth based solely on the W/L of his last fight. I’ve always hated Wanderlei, but the guy has paid his dues and earned his respect. IMO Wanderlei’s last 4 losses have been to 4 of the best guys in the history of MMA. No shame in that! If Randy really is on his way out, he deserves to go out with honor, losing to the best, not being used as a stepping stone for wannabe up-n-comers who have shown inconsistent potential at best. This was exactly what I feared the UFC would do to him when I heard they’d signed him for SIX more fights. And Rashad claiming that he turned down the Couture fight because it did nothing for him was outright disrespectful!

Ya but Randy gets a boat load more ppv buys for him vs machida then a hendo andy rematch would. Yes wandy is a legend but he hasn’t done shit in the ufc besides get ko’d so its its just dumb mentioning him as a contender.

Surivived as in getting his face bashed in until the ref pulled lesnar off. Your saying Machida isnt as dangerous as Lesnar I think you need to get your head checked.

Machida has only KOd 2 of his last 8 opponents. Brock has pounded everyone he’s fought into Jelly, Randy included. But Randy walked out of the cage on his own two feet. If Lesnar didn’t kill him, nothing Machida has is going to be life threatening. Besides which, Machida has way more maturity and control than Lesnar and isn’t going to keep pounding a guy once he knows the fight is over. Machida just wants to win. Lesnar likes hurting people and is 80 lbs bigger than Machida. If you’re talking about opponents’ health, Lesnar is most definitely more dangerous.