UFC Quick Quote: Vitor Belfort is coming for Anderson Silva
by Jesse Holland on Sep 25, 2009 9:54 AM EDT
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"Vitor is a different person now. He really is. He's not that spoiled kid that we saw back in the day when he was building his career and got ahead of himself. His head is in the game, he's very focused and he's very secure with where he is in the game right now. Rich Franklin is no easy competitor. That told us right there where he's at. We're coming after Anderson Silva and that belt!"
– Xtreme Couture trainer Shawn Tompkins talks to FightHype.com about the future of Vitor Belfort in the middleweight division — specifically his place in line for the 185-pound crown, currently held by fellow Brazilian Anderson Silva. "The Phenom" is coming off a first round destruction of former division champ Rich Franklin at UFC 103 on Sept. 19 in Dallas. The stoppage — coupled with his wins in Affliction — were enough to convince Tompkins that "The Old Vitor" is back and ready to face "The Spider." But was it enough to convince the fans?
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I think he has a great shot. A lot of you will say it’s too early but he’s not some new guy. He is the old Vitor only a mature & patient one.
I still think hes a HUGE underdog but I hope he can pull it off…
by Irishmikey on Sep 25, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions
I see no reason not to give him a title shot…he’s proven himself in Affliction and since the other top 2 contenders Nate and Hendo have already fought and lost to Silva…this match up makes the most sense and is probably a lot more appealing to fans than seeing either Nate or Hendo have another go at it.
I think Belfort has a really nice chance in this fight. He showed against Rich that he’s a patient and calculating striker. I think that there would be lulls in the fight with Silva with both men waiting out the other but when they engage there will be fireworks.
by Buster Bluth on Sep 25, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to see this fight, but come on its a little early. He should have one more convincing fight first.
by UFC Champ on Sep 25, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
He needs a good win at 185, not a catchweight. Then he gets Andy.
by PW on Sep 25, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough but from a fan’s stand point I’d rather see Silva face someone new and exciting like Belfort then watch Hendo or Nate give a repeat performance that we have already seen. I’d like to see Belfort/Silva and Nate/Hendo…both awesome match ups but really any combination of those 4 fighters is fine by me. The key here is that Andy only has a certain amount of fights left on his contract and according to him he’s done after that so that’s why I’d rather see the most exciting matchups for Andy now rather than see a repeat fight we’ve already seen…not that Nate or Hendo don’t have a chance against Silva a second time around but as a fan…I’d rather see what Belfort can do.
by Buster Bluth on Sep 25, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
he doesn’t need to anything! Vitor is Vitor and he’s had what is it 5 straight wins? Let’s do it! He’s the only real challenge that’s ever gonna come at 185 for Anderson Silva… I’m sure he knows how to avoid the thai clinch and IMO Vitor has better boxing than Anderson Silva
by RoBerto on Sep 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
If they have this fight they should put on the Henderson & Marquardt fight the same night winners facing off. I would like to also see if Vitor can avenge his loss to Henderson.
by Puck Head on Sep 25, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
What NEEDS to happen is Vitor vs. Anderson for the title. If Anderson wins, he NEEDS to vacate the title and spend his last few fights against tOP LHW or to whoop on mir at Heavyweight!
No disrespect to Dan or NATE, but they had their chance and DID NOTHING WITH IT, getting outclassed, and please no one bring up how Hendo won the most boring round one in the history of mma. Hendo did nothing to Anderson…Nate did even less.
Winner of Nate/Hendo can fight Vitor for the vacant MW title assuming Anderson wins. If Vitor wins the title, Nate/hendo winner can fight him anyway.
This is what needs to happen:
Anderson vs. Vitor for the title
Hendo/Nate for #1 contender
If vitor wins, winner of Hendo/Nate gets 1st crack at his title.
If Vitor loses, Anderson should vacate title and have an 8 man tournament to crown a new middleweight champion:
- Hendo
- Vitor
- Nate
- Okami
- Goran Reljic
- Maia
- Bisping
- cote
3 round tournament, 1 round per every 4 months. That way the UFC spends an entire year crowning a new middleweight champion, and although anderson vacated the title, the winner of this stacked tournament would really deserve the title, after spending an entire year fighting for it!
by john G on Sep 25, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Check out what Dana and Lorenzo had to say abut Kimbo:
“Are you going to see Kimbo Slice fight again in the UFC?” Dana White rhetorically asked the Los Angeles Times. “Yes.”
“The ratings do not influence our decision,” White noted. “The guy can either fight or not.”
UFC co-owner Lorenzo Fertitta added, “We’ve been very impressed with Kimbo’s performance.”
by john G on Sep 25, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Won’t Xtreme fashion ever learn that they can compete with Anderson? This matchup isn’t even competitive. Stylistically the only worse matchups for vitor would be Hendo or Marqy. It’s nice to see him do good things and be on the comback trail but yea Anderson straight murders vitor. People will get on his wagon though just like they did with fn Forrest and point to all kinds of irrelevant advantages that Vitor’s got. This matchup is only interesting in the fact that Silva gets to add one more scalp to his beautiful collection of top 10 fighters.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 25, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
NameNotRequired — Highly doubtful that Anderson Silva walks through Vitor. Whether Vitor can pull off the win remains to be seen, but I’m convinced that Vitor would pwn Hendo or Marquardt. So, we’ll see.
by MMACrossfire on Sep 25, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Vitor can’t handle people that can get him down and gas him. He won’t sub anyone coz as a Black belt he’s mainly a positional grappler who beats up people from the top. He has a shot at catching Nate but he can’t defend his shot or that of hendo. On the ground, they’ll outwork him until he quits then either get the UD or actually finish him. Silva would like nothing more than people to exchange with him. He would indulge in standing and no amount of power/speed will compensate for his technical deficiencies especially now that he’s experimenting with footwork/timing in Karate. May have worked on Rich’s simple striking but silva’s level is different. None except fo chida times and properly counters like Anderson, who will just accumulate shots on him until he KO’s him.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 25, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Vitor, but everyone needs to take a step back and look at things objectively.
Vitor’s last 5 fights: Franklin (Legit); Lindland (Middle-tier); Martin (terrible, lost 2 of 3 coming in, and the win was by DQ); Zekic (decent middle-tier guy); and Serati (Lower-tier, only had 5 fights when he fought Vitor).
This is not exactly the kind of resume that warrants a shot at Silva. The Franklin fight was a good showing, but in no way should vault him over either Hendo or Nate.
Since entering the UFC, Anderson has fought some of the hardest hitting guys out there, and has been rocked a total of zero times. This match-up would be a horrible move by the UFC. Everyone says that Vitor is now metally tough, but what would it do to him to be absolutely destroyed Silva? Give him 1-2 fights at 185 then start talking Spider matchup.
Maybe Belfort/Okami or Belfort/Akiyama or the winner of BizzzBing/Kang? Bottom line, he needs a little more time.
by Cole on Sep 25, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
COle, you hit it, now I hope Bisping wins, oh my goodness, to see him against Belfort, just thinking of watching Bisping getting starched again is a dream come true.
If Henderson got him, and by no means saying Henderson is slow, not at all, but Belfort will mug bisping.
by the Slovak on Sep 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
cole i disagree with you, franklin i feel won that fight against hendo, if it was a few more rounds hendo would have been knocked out. hendo and marquardt both brutally lost to anderson. this fight makes sense
by dtoto on Sep 25, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Well Anderson’s last 5 fights before getting a title shot were Leben (Win), Fryklund(Win), Okami (DQ loss), Curtis Stout (Win), and Jorge Rivera (Win). Take out the DQ loss to Okami, and his previous fight was a loss to Ryo Chonan.
Now none of those guys is even top 10. Vitor’s recent streak is plenty deserving of a shot. Fact of the matter is there has only been one other guy to own Franklin like that, and that was Anderson. And Lindland is perfectly capable of being in the top 10, his inactivity and the destruction by Vitor is what is keeping him out.
This is a fight we haven’t seen yet, and Vitor is the only guy in the division with the hand speed to strike with Anderson. I say book the fight. It’s the best title match up that division has had for years.
by MongoMan on Sep 25, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it fun that everyone thinks that striking is the key to defeating Anderson. Everyone who has stood with him has been embarrassed. Bottom line, unless Silva stands still, drops his hands, and blatantly allows someone to tee off on his face, no way another striker comes remotely close to beating him at his own game.
GSP has shown time and time again, that great wrestling can nutralize striking. It’s going to take a top-level wrestler who can control Silva and negate his striking, to pull off an upset. Sorry to say Vitor doesn’t fit that profile.
If Vitor/Silva is the fight that everyone wants to see, thats cool. But after Vitor gets destoyed, I don’t don’t to be on here reading about how Vitor “should have had a few more fights before challenging Silva.”
Book the fight, then book a hospital reservation under the name Phenom.
by Cole on Sep 25, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re everyone that has stood with Anderson has been embarrassed. But non of those guys have Vitor’s speed. Very few guys have the wrestling ability of GSP. And if GSP were bigger, I would actually pick him to beat Anderson, cause Anderson’s wrestling sucks.
I don’t know what game plan Vitor would come with. But at some point in the fight he would more than likely have to trade, and right now he’s got the best chance of handling those exchanges of anyone in the division. Hendo’s too slow and one dimensional, Nate’s looked great against guys that aren’t that great at striking, or are really undersized.
Anderson has displayed a much more versatile striking game, and a more varied set of tools on the feet. He’s become very confident in his skills and rightfully so, but he drops his hands a lot, mostly because no one can hit. But if Vitor’s speed can allow him to connect…well who knows?
by MongoMan on Sep 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Buster completely. Vitor is coming off 2 KO wins over two of the toughest middleweights in the history of mma (lindland, Franklin).Not many people can say they KO’ed indlland and Franklin, and no one has done it in back to back fights. Most of the fans like mysef, dont even want to see Anderson fght Nate and Dan again…but EVERYONE wants to see Vitor/Silva!
VITOR is great friends with Silva and his camp, so props to him for being willing to fight his friends unlike those AKA homo;s who have known each other for 2 years and refuse to fight!
Thats a MEGA FIGHT if you ask me!
by john G on Sep 25, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah longtime mma fans want to see this happen. Especially the way Hendo/Nate lost to Silva the first time.
Vitor has a better shot than anyone else at 185. I think
he hits harder than silva… might be his only advantage.
by Big Zino on Sep 25, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Vitor is the only fighter in his division who has the speed to go toe-to-toe with Anderson Silva. He really is the new dark horse of MMA… his new attitude, weight, and focus has been flying under the radar for a while now, & is just coming top the surface with the quick wipeout of Franklin, which I fully expected. Look out Anderson Silva.
by erba on Sep 25, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
Never though of him as a spoiled kid and always seemed VERY respectful even in defeat…anyways, I’m not sure about giving him his shot quite yet. I believe Dan should get his chance fist as unexciting as it may seem as he was 1st in line and is getting up there in age. How many fights do you guys see Andy having left in the UFC???
Dan v Andy
Nate v Vitor (although it may be counter productive to have one of these guys lose)
I honestly believe Vitor has the best chance to win BUT if he does beat Andy, will we have to wait for an automatic rematch before the winner defends against Nate or Dan? And what about Okami? Jeez…what a difference a year makes in the MW divi!!!
by McArthur on Sep 25, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions
I agree that Dan is probably the most deserving out of the trio of Hendo, Nate, and Belfort but like you said…how many more fights does Andy have? If he’s serious about leaving after his contract is up then I don’t want to waste his last few fights in the UFC against guys we’ve seen him beat already.
Okami is 7-1 in the UFC and only lost a decision to Ace. It’s too bad this guy can’t get some more high profile fights than Dean Lister. I’d like to see him get a #1 contender match after he beats Sonnen.
by Buster Bluth on Sep 25, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Book Dan vs. Spider, and Vitor vs. Okami. Winner fight winner.
by jay on Sep 25, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions
Jay: 1st of all, Nate would have to be included in the foursome.
Silva is serious about retiring from mma. If thats the case, wouldnt you rather see him take big fights at 205? Personally, I am dying to see him fight guys like: Rampage, Rashad, Shogun, couture, Mir. If i had it my way, I would book Silva vs. Vitor for the middleweight title, win or lose, I would then make Anderson vacate the title, and spend the rest o his contracts taking Mega fights at 205 , or whoop on mir at Heavyweight.
If Anderson was going to fight for another 2 years, I would love to see him defend his title against Vitor,Okami,Nate,and Hendo….but since time is running out, I dont think it makes sense to be rematching guys like Hendo and Nate.
Just my 2 cents!
by john G on Sep 25, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that its ever gonna happen but it would be cool to see him vacate the title now then have an old school tournament for the middleweight title. All in one night, Vitor, Nate, Hendo, Okami, Maia, Akiyama, Bisping or Kang, and Wanderlei!!!!!
Never gonna happen, but it would be pretty cool to see
by Eagzy on Sep 25, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Eagzy: see my post towards the top of the page
by john G on Sep 25, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he’s going to retire dude.I think him and Soares are angling for more money.
by JT on Sep 25, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW…just WOW
I can’t believe Vitor is getting a shot at Anderson. He has absolutely no chance of even touching Anderson. Both Nate and Hendo would destroy Vitor.
I don’t mind seeing another 2 minute Silva destruction, so Ill watch and love it, but poor Vitor…
At least Forrest had size advantage against Anderson… Vitor looked slow and sluggish against a retiring Franklin with no chin. He will not last as long as Forrest did and the fight will be over with Anderson not being hit once in about 2 minutes.
One more for the Silva highlight reel…he must be laughing so hard right now. Vitor LOL
by Skope on Sep 25, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions
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by jbone on Sep 25, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions
Anderson will probably evade him for the first 60 seconds until Vitor’s adrenaline has leveled. This he will start countering and picking him apart.
I don’t see Vitor threatening Anderson but I hope I’m wrong. I’d really like to see AS challenged for once.
by kibbled_bits on Sep 25, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t just want to see him challenged I want to see him beat. I still think Hendo’s wrestling and chin have a better chance of beating Anderson than Vitor’s speed.
by shonuff on Sep 25, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, Vitor, Hendo, or Franklin would all destroy Nate! Nate’s a great fighter, but he’s just not on the level of those guys yet. Hendo was the clear top contender and Vitor one-upped him by defeating Franklin much more decisively than Hendo did. I still think Hendo is owed a title shot though, and the ONLY way he should agree to fight Marquardt is if he gets it IN WRITING that his next fight will be for the belt against the winner of Vitor/Anderson. Otherwise, he gains nothing from fighting Marquart cause the UFC is just stalling with him and he should move up to 205 where there are much bigger fights to be had.
by shonuff on Sep 25, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions
half jab knockin guys out at 205…ridonkulous
by BudsyKind on Sep 25, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
“In my opion” Vitor Belfort should have to earn the number one contender spot. Dan Hederson and Nate Marquardt have collectively cleaned out the middleweight division. I say Marquardt and Hendo bang it out for the title shot an Belfort gets the looser. A win over Hendo or “The Great” would give him more legitimacy as a contender.
by Mike on Sep 25, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t understand people who talk like beating Rich doesn’t mean anything. In 30 fights, the only guys to decisively beat Franklin were 1)The current Lightheavyweight champion 2)The current Middleweight champion and P4P best and 3) Vitor Belfort. Rich is one of the best there is. When Marquardt beats someone like Franklin, then talk to me about what he deserves. He hasn’t fought anybody close to that level yet.
by shonuff on Sep 25, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
I agree that Rich Franklin is one of the best but I still don’t believe that Vitor “deserves” a shot at the title. My problem is not with Vitor Belfort but with the manner in which the UFC is handling the middleweight division. If Michael Bisping would have beat Hendo he would have got a shot at the title. If Damien Maia would have beat Marquardt he would have been in line for a title shot. Both Hendo and Marquardt decisively beat both of the fighters who would have been the number one contenders and they have been pushed in back of Belfort. Anderson Silvas last title defense was a joke. The only fight that really qualified Thales Leites as a contender was against Marqurdt and Leites didn’t really win that fight. I’m getting off on a tangent but I don’t understand the process in which the UFC is coming up with it’s middleweight number one contenders. I don’t see these problems in any of the other weight classes.
by Bruce Leroy on Sep 25, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly shonuff Henderson has been in top 5 ranking battles for some time now that he has won more than he lost equaling proven experience Marquardt appears to have the tools but until he beats at least two proven top calibure fighters like wandy, Henderson, Franklin or belfort.
by Puck Head on Sep 25, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Mike. Having beat Franklin, who I’m a fan of, does not give him the position to ask to fight for the belt. Hendo has earned that opportunity in my opinion, and needs to be given first shot. I don’t have a lot of hope for him beating Anderson, but he earned the chance. Vitor needs at least one more serious, and decisive fight before I’d support saying he’s back, and has earned a shot at the title.
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by jbone on Sep 25, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions
Belfort has a better shot than anyone else at 185lbs but I would expect that Silva will win the match up. Should be worth watching
by mmantini on Sep 25, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions
Guys don’t forget here he has not had a fight yet at 185 – He’s was also over weight on the catch weight! One fight back in the UFC does not put him in line for Anderson (atleastit shouldn’t) one more fight at weight then lets talk!
by pete on Sep 25, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
196 for a 195 pound non-title fight = making weight. There simply wasn’t a need to cut the extra pound. Happens all the time in non-title fights. He’s made 185 before with no troubles.
by MongoMan on Sep 25, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Belfort has a better shot than anyone else in the 185lbs division but Silvia will likely win. Mike does make a good point and I am not sure he should be given a title shot based on the Franklin victory and he may need another win before he gets his shot. Either way it will be a fight worth watching
by mmantini on Sep 25, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
Vitor isnt as legit as Dana and everybody else thinks he is. Every time he has ever won a big fight it has been some straight bull. 1. The only reason they call him the former lightheavy weight champ is because he poked Randy in the eye during their title fight, not even one minute in and Big John had to stop the fight. They had a rematch 3 UFC’s later and Randy ran train. 2. He dropped Rich with a flush left hook to the back of the head and then after Rich wilted he ate 4 or 5 more shots to the back of the head. Wow your so good Vitor your just this unstoppable wrecking machine arent you. 3. He beat Wanderlei in his first ever UFC fight when Wanderlei was really green and was no where near he is today or was in Pride. Vitor wouldnt stand a chance against Pride Wanderlei and everybody knows that. Also on another note Rich didnt get his ass beat like Tito did to Ken for 3 rounds and didnt just get his face played like Anderson did to Forrest. Rich was just unlucky that night and I would love to see a rematch.
by flossinbigbossin on Sep 25, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
Well he didn’t poke Randy in the eye, his glove cut Randy’s eye lid. Yes Randy owned him in the rematch. He was going through a lot of well documented personal troubles at the time. And since when is a loss to Randy a shameful thing?
Also the SLOW MOTION REPLAY, made it extremely clear that it was a glancing shot to Rich’s temple that dropped him. And that there was maybe one questionaable shot by the back of one of Rich’s ears, that landed there because Rich turned his head.
When he beat Wandy it was the 7th pro fight for both. Same level of experience. Yes if they had rematched about 5 years ago Wandy probably would have gotten the better of him. But not now.
Vitor looks great right now. He might get owned by Anderson. But it’s a more interesting fight than, matching Andy up to guys that he has already owned. Give the guy his props.
by MongoMan on Sep 25, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He has a better shot than anyone else? That is ridiculous. In fact he has less of a shot than pretty much anyone worth mentioning at the top of the MW division.
He is a striker… Is he going to try to out-strike the best stand up fighter in the UFC? Or is he gonna try to take it to the ground, where he is nowhere near as good as Hendo or Nate?
How does he have the best shot? Doesn’t make any sense.
Silva in < 2 mins.
by Skope on Sep 25, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
What Hendo is better on the ground than Vitor? Ummmm…OK. LOL. Vitor has pretty good jits. He just doesn’t use it too much because he can KO people standing. Hendo is a better wrestler but that doesn’t equate to being better on the ground.
by MK on Sep 25, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes it does.
Vitor’s jits is not better than Silva’s. But Hendo did a pretty good job against Silva on the ground.
by Skope on Sep 25, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Vitor’s jits is almost certainly better than Sliva’s. Vitor even took bronze at Abu Dhabi in the Absolute division. Anderson got mounted by Travis Lutter although his jits has improved a lot since then. It’s unlikely to be better than Vitor’s though.
There is no absolutely no logic to saying because Hendo done OK on the ground against Silva for a couple of minutes that he would then be better than Vitor on the ground.
by MK on Sep 25, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Vitor’s jiu-jitsu credentials are certainly better than Anderson’s. When Vitor was only 19 he was ranked #2 in the world in JiuJitsu, just behind Rickson Gracie (and ahead of all the other Gracies).
HOWEVER, Vitor hasn’t used his jits offensively in many years (that I’ve seen), Silva’s been training with the Nog Bros, and JiuJitsu guys tend to neutralize each other in MMA fights, whereas wrestlers often give them trouble on the ground. Plus jits guys rarely have takedown skills comparable to wrestlers. IOW, I do think Hendo’s wrestling poses more of a threat to Silva than Vitor’s jits.
by shonuff on Sep 25, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think so too but the fact that Hendo and Vitor have great stand up and ground skills as does Silva what makes Silva so good is his ground defence wich is better than any MMA fighter in the world he exhausts wrestlers and causes just as much damage on his back against the JJ fighters. His long strong legs allow him to control any style of fighter from his back.
by Puck Head on Sep 25, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
wat!! how can anyone say vitor has no chance at stand up with the SPider!!! have you seen his fights!! if anything the only thing i would worry about vitor fighting anderson is that he comes in with the same confindence hes had in his last fights… if he comes in like he did with couture then its a short night for vitor BUT if he comes in like he has been then i KNOW Vitor will give a hell of a fight and problably THE NEW MIDDILE WEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.. VITOR BELFORT..WAR!!!!!!!!!!
by Phat E on Sep 25, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
Vitor has always been and will always be one of my all-time favorites. But in all fairness, none of the guys he’s KOd were strikers of Anderson’s caliber. I hope Vitor’s speed is up to par with Anderson, but I haven’t seen him against any opponent that would prove that yet. What impressed me against Rich wasn’t Vitor’s offense, but the fact that Franklin never laid a glove on him!!! Not one punch! I’d say Franklin is the 2nd most technical striker in MW history and he couldn’t get anywhere near Vitor. Vitor/Silva could be a preview of what Machida/Silva would be like.
by shonuff on Sep 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
First of all Flossin big Bossin Look at the fight again Closely!!! Vitor first shot that dropped Franklin was on the side of the head!! and where the hell were you for the rest of the punches.. LOOK CLOSELY!!! A HAMMER FIST TO THE JAW AND A PUNCH TO THE SIDE OF THE HEAD AND THE LAST BABY PUNCH I ADMIT WAS TO THE BACK OF THE HEAD BUT FRANKLIN WAS ALREADY OUT!!! GET UR FUKIN FACTS STRAIGHT.. VITOR WILL BRING A WAR TO ANDERSON.. WILL HE WIN?? A STRONG POSSIBILITY?? HE HAS A VERY GOOD CHANCE.. STOP HATIN BITCHES.
by Phat E on Sep 25, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
O AND VITOR DID NOT POKE RANDY IN THE EYE!! HE FUKIN PUNCHED HIM IN THE EYE THAT GRAZED HIS EYEBALL.. PEOPLE NEED TO GET THERE FUKIN FACTS STRAIGHT…
by Phat E on Sep 25, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah Vitor threw a punch and the edge of his glove grazed Randy’s eye. He did not “poke” him in the eye.
by MK on Sep 25, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
MK is right. Vitor did not poke Randy in the eye. Nor did he punch him in the eye. The punch missed completely, but the velcro strap thingy on the glove sliced Randy’s eyelid from top to bottom, requiring immediate surgery. It was a fluke accident and should’ve been ruled a NO CONTEST. The belt should never have changed hands. HOwever, Vitor still earned the right to call himself a UFC Champion because he won a UFC Heavyweight tournament at UFC 12. He’s just as much a UFC champion as Royce Gracie and Dan Severn were.
by shonuff on Sep 25, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Vitor doesn’t even stand a punchers chance…
How do people still underestimate Anderson? Vitor looked sluggish against Rich and is certainly not the “OLD Vitor”.
Rich has never been the same since easting dozens of knees from Anderson. his chin is non-existent. Anyone could have defeated Rich on that night just like CroCop.
by Skope on Sep 25, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
He looked sluggish? WTF? Were you watching it in slow motion? There were several people I was watching with that didn’t see the shot that dropped Rich. It was a blink and you’ll miss it punch.
I don’t see many people underestimating Anderson. I’m certainly not. But I think Vitor has the best chance of anyone in the division right now.
There’s nothing wrong with Rich’s chin. It’s not legendary, but not non-existent either. He’s taken stiff shots from guys since that fight and recovered. If anything the Silva fights made Rich better. He’s just fighting tougher competition now than he was before he got the belt.
by MongoMan on Sep 25, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. Rich is a better fighter now than he was when he was champ!
by shonuff on Sep 25, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Vitor will get demolished just like everyone else who steps in the cage with Silva. Silva will retire undefeated in the ufc.
by mma guru on Sep 25, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions
WAT! RICH WAS A LEGIT OPPENENT FOR VITOR.. HE DESTROYED MATT HAMILL WHO IS ON A TEAR.. WENT TO A CLOSE DECESION WITH HENDO WHICH MANY PEOPLE SAID RICH WON.. AND DESTROYED VANDERLEI.. HE WAS A TOUGH OPPENENT FOR ANY 1 AND VITOR LOOKED GREAT!! WAT R U TALKIN ABOUT SKOPE!! VITOR MADE RICH LOOK LIKE SHIT.. CANT WAIT TILL ANDERSON VS VITOR.. DONT GET ME WRONG ANDERSON IS BAD ASS AND WILL PROBLABLY RETIRED UNDEFEATED BUT LETS GIVE VITOR A CHANCE.. HES EARNED IT AND I BELEIVE HE WILL PUT UP A BETTER FIGHT THAN ANY 1 ELSE IN THE MIDDLE WEIGHT DIVISION PERIOD
by Phat E on Sep 25, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
Was Couture in Belforts corner last Saturday?
by xxBAxx816 on Sep 25, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve been saying all along that Dan deserves the next shot. I agree that Vitor ought to have another big fight before a title shot. If I were making the matchups, it would be Hendo/Silva and Vitor/Marquardt or Vitor/Wanderlei (but they may be saving this rematch for a rainy day). But I understand what the UFC is doing. They want to strike while the iron is hot and capitalize on Belfort’s momentum coming off this win. Beating Marquardt or Wandy would not garner as much hype for the title fight as neither of them are as popular as Rich. They can justify it because Vitor just KOd a guy that Hendo couldn’t. Plus Anderson is ducking Dan and the fans are screaming for fresh meat. So Hendo gets screwed and has to choose whether to fight Marquardt or move up to LightHeavy. I hope he’ll move up. So many more great fights for him at LHW, but less chance at winning UFC gold.
by shonuff on Sep 25, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
what would happen if vitor and hendo fought??? :) :) :) give dan his shot.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 25, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions
That’s a fight I’d love to see! Maybe Dan will be Vitor’s first title defense! Wouldn’t that be beautiful!!!
by shonuff on Sep 25, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
they already fought at pride 32. watch how the announcers hype up vitor. you’ll hear alot of the same old “vitor is back” lines. anyway, dan whoops that ass bad!!!!!!!
dan has the best shot at beating anderson and anderson knows it.
watch the video:
http://ikrazy.com/mixedmartialarts/index.php/topic,2556.0.html
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
dan already beat the dogshit out of vitor. vitor isn’t as good as dan.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 25, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
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