MMA Quick Quote: Tune in for Herschel Walker versus a cripple -- courtesy of 'jackasses and geniuses'

hahahHAHAHAHAHA BIG zINO, THAT WAS SO FUNNY, YET SO TRUE! PRICELESS!

Tito is salivating at the thought of fighting Hershel.

Tell Dana to STFU…Strikeforce is a small show, so I will give them a pass…but he is the boss of the premier mma organization in the world, and is still feeding us, Ancient has beens like Coleman,Trigg,Baroni,hallman on ppv main cards!..not to mentioin win or lose, Randy gets a title shot in every other fight. Leave strikeforce alone, and straighten your organization out and turn it into a legit sport,,,you classeless FOCK!!!! All the great fighters under one roof, and you still build up bums, and has beens like they are great! Shame on you! where is introvert when you need him? lol

Dana does the same exact crap, he just sells it better!

I thought he was a Tae Kwon Do Blackbelt?

Haven’t you guys heard 50 is the new 40?

That only applies to MILFs.

Wow dude maybe gilfs but milfs? I hear 20 is the new 10 for dilfs haha

nastyy but funny

I’m probably showing my age again, but what’s a dilf? Can I assume it’s not ‘dude?’

daughter? i could be wrong

John- How can you compare Randy Couture to Herschel Walker. The only similarity is their age. Randy has been wrestling for decades, and has been in mma for close to 15 years. Even in losing his last 2 fights, he gave Brock his best fight so far, and was able to escape all of Nog’s sub attempts. In the 2 fights before that, he beat the champ, and the guy who killed Crocops career.

Herschel hasn’t even played football in forever, and is having his first mma fight at 47! Signing him makes it look like anyone can be a pro.

I wasnt comparing Hershe to Couture…I was pointing out all the BS that the UFC does that compromises the integrity of the UFC for a big payday! when strikeforce does something like that, Dana jumps all over them. IMO its much worse when the premier mma organization in the world, puts money over the integrity of the sport…..its not as bad IMO, when a up and coming organization does it, because they NEED TO DO IT! UFC doesnt need to tdo anything like that, yet they stilll do!

He probably will get knocked out and then Dana will sign him to the Ultimate Fighter and make a ton of money.

lol casey, your right if he where on this season of tuff half these people would be praising dana for his marketing.

if he was on this season of tuf, the biggest news would still be Fedor!

what do you mean kevin?

lol, I meant Kimbo…boy am I out of it today roy!!

exactly kevin, and its all a markecting ploy. if hersal gets some people to watch and they don’t put him in there with someone above his level to get him hurt than its great.

Its a crappy marketing ploy because Walker has been out of the NFL a long time.

What viewership are you hoping to attract?

who ever is interested in seeing herschel

LOL.

Who would that be?

His family?

you must be interest, i will watch it i am not saying he is going to do great of even that he whould be doing this i just hope they put him in there with some one with 0-3 fights and see what happens.

I don’t know OJR, my girlfriend doesn’t watch sports(unless I force her to), but she knows who Herschel Walker is. Celebrity Apprentice my friend, he was on the last season.

No he wasn’t. Tito was the one and only celebrity on Celebrity Apprentice.

LOL PW!

I guess guys that have potential are considered better than 50 year old guys that garner press, thats my take. The NFL guys on tuf weren’t heisman trophy winners and didn’t garner a spot on first take or even their local newspaper. Thats the difference. A 30 year old Brock Lesner (who is the UFC champ unfortunately) is a little more relevant than a 50 year old that won’t ever be more than a “side show.”

Yeah and how has that pro wrestler worked out? “Promotes internet brawlers as some huge sensation”. He put him in TUF, a reality tv show where only a small % actually end up fighting for the UFC for any extended amount of time.

Look, my point is that they both are clearly after the money and they’re both willing to sign and promote fighters without a lot of credibility. Don’t even try to argue that DW makes his decisions about who he picks up/keeps on the roster, who he puts on TUF, who he drops entirely based on the caliber of fighter, because I can point out about a million examples to the contrary. Obviously the signing of Herschel is a more extreme example of adding a fighter who has not proven himself but DW does the exact same thing all the time to a lesser extent.

aside from the UFC HW champion and a guy that won’t win TUF (KIMBO) please do tell all these examples of guys signed to make Dana money!!!

The difference is his marketing scheme, he wisely promoted Lesnar, and had him fight hard competition right away. He is also forcing Kimbo to go through TUF which will generate draws, but won’t tarnish the legitimacy of the UFC since its like a course for beginners. I agree however that its somewhat of a double standard, only Strikeforce really did corner themselves with this because they never thought further out than one or two freakshow fights for Herschel. The only real bad thing I see about this is now Dana’s eyes are on Strikeforce and he’s looking to take another org down. This is the first time I’ve heard Dana talk this much smack about Strikeforce which isn’t good for them.

examples of guys signed to make Dana money!!!

baroni, tank ect.

lol, yeah they are big draws Roy!

imo Dana signed most of these guys to prevent Strikeforce from getting them. Strikeforce is next to go for Dana and then he can finally move to the land of the rising sun. UFC manifest destiny!

No different then hershel walker. Your comparing Brock to hershel. I think a more fair comparison is trigg, baroni, or tank being brought to UFC. Ya there not huge draws but they were picked up for a reason. Its a signing frenzy. Make the news etc.

If you think STRIKEFORCE is betting the house on hershel making them money ur sadly mistaken. Lol I think if ur comparing cash cows? STRIKEFORCE may argue that FEDOR is there ticket, not hershel. Glad ppl decide to take their own spin on it tho, as if coker thinks this is his cement for success. Wow

he signed tank when he knew he sucked just for ratings and it wasn’t to block strikeforce. i agree that some of the recent signings where for that but i don’t even know if they where trying to resign baroni he wasn’t even winning there.and kevin i never said they where big draws just guys he signs purely for marketing or what ever draw they have and not based on being able to compete do you think hersal is a big draw?

Tank, Baroni, Brock (unproven), Chris Leben, Drops Thales Leites, Kimbo (if he wins 1 fight), Frank Trigg, Royce Gracie just off the top of my head without any thought.

But more importantly, beyond that he promotes fighters within the organization not based on ability but on marketability. Brock Lesnar goes 1-1 in the UFC and gets a title shot whereas Lyoto Machida and Jon Fitch have to win 6 and 7 times respectively before they get title shots. This sort of incredible inconsistency in the treatment of different fighters is why MMA as it exists is not a real sport.

Fighters like Wanderlei Silva, Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture who are on serious losing skids still get only “elite” competition and will never fight anything less than the main or co-main event.

The UFC is not a legitimate sporting organization and Dana should turn his focus inward before he goes around calling out smaller shows on doing the exact same thing he does every day. John G has a good post above where he basically says the exact same thing.

I think hershal getting directly put on the ticker on espn the second he signs is bigger news or a bigger draw than Baroni, yes!

Look at the depth of their respective divisions first. I’m not saying that one win at HW is equal to 5 or 6 at LHW or WW, but when Brock came in the division was pretty thin. Not the case for Fitch and Machida. Besides, Fitch is boring.

fact is frost everything he said is correct how he said is a is arragant but does anyone expect anything less? As far as Brock goes before he even fought his first fight I was telling everybody he was going to be the champ in the next year or two with his abilities and I got laughed by 70% of the posters on here who most of that 70% only knew Brock from the WWE but fact is anyone that knew about Brocks wrestling ability, athletic ability, endurance and his competitive nature knew he could do well in this sport not all of us agreed on how fast it would take him to get to were he is but we all agreed he had the tools to get there at some point. Kimbo is going through TUF at least but even so he has more fights under his belt in MMA and way more in street fighting how well will he do? The UFC is a ligit sporting event by the way that has held more fights in a month than Strikeforce can put on in a year with much higher calibure fighters anyone that thinks Strikeforce is not below the UFC calibure is pa plain and simple fool that doesn’t understand MMA.

bigger draw than Baroni, yes!

well thats probally why there doing it.

They should just sign Cansenco too and we can have the football player against the baseball player.

yeah maybe the ufc will sign canseco since they have more football players and you will be praising dana for it.

C’mon guys, anyone that completely agrees with Dana, and doesn’t think he does the same thing are just blinded. By the same thing, I mean do business based on marketing and money. You all can’t just brush frost’s good points to the side. Fact is, there’s not equal treatment of fighters in the UFC. They do things based on marketing, and there’s no arguing that. For Dana to act like Strikeforce is desecrating the sport is hypocritical. Look, Walker said he has always wanted to fight in MMA. He already trains in martial arts, and he’s an outstanding physical specimen along the lines of a Randy Couture. And by that I mean as far as the shape he’s in and the physical ability he still has at his age. Obviously I’m not comparing him to Randy as a fighter. My point being that we’re not talking about someone that’s going to fall over and break their hip. We’re talking about one of the best natural athletes of all time. Of course this is a marketing ploy on Strikeforce’s part. Just as having Kimbo on TUF is for the UFC. You can say it’s different because he’s on the show, but Dana is putting someone that he called a freakshow in the UFC, and you all know it. It’s not for the money or a freak show in Walker’s mind though. He wants to prove something to himself. And as the top MMA organization in the world, shouldn’t the UFC be held to slightly higher standards than Strikeforce anyway? I mean, Dana can say whatever he wants about what he’s done for MMA, but he didn’t event the sport and he certainly doesn’t have a patent on it. He’s not the MMA police, and he shouldn’t be trying to call out corruption in another precinct when he’s got a bunch of rats in his anyways.

Cmon Diceman the day Strikeforce signed Fedor they started a war with Dana everybody knew that even though Strikeforce is no were near the UFC in quality,calibure and quantity of fighters they signed a guy they new the UFC wanted along with the UFC fans and most MMA fans by Strikeforce signing Fedor it showed they wanted to compete with the UFC and theres no argueing that fact as M1 & Strikeforce have both stated there are just as good fighters outside the UFC but the UFC doesn’t have the best fighter in the world. Not those exact words but somewere along thos lines. So Strikeforce wants to compete so be it they are going against Dana and the UFc so we all know there is going to be some words said by Dana no sense crying about it now Dice we seen what happened to Affliction didn’t we? I almost think Fedor and M1 are actually working for Dana sometimes?

You completely missed and/or avoided the entire point of the argument. I’m not talking about them being in competition with each other. Re-read and then re-post on topic.

not a bad point about dana being all about the dollars !

And that’s why STRIKEFORCE has challengers. Where in this column did it say that herschel is guaranteed a title shot? Where did it say he’s guaranteed a ppv slot? You guys are jumping all over FROSNT and he’s clearly just saying give coker a lil reach around when ur done with Danas balls.

Their doing the same thing. That’s all he’s saying. Its about signing em before some1 else does. More names on the roster. That’s it

it dosn’t?

o ok, he has taekwondo. Big difference, he’s gonna do awesome being a pure taekwondo fighter, cause everyone know how awesome taekwondo is for mma. He’s gonna do taekwondo to take another HW down, then taekwondo them to submission, or gonna KO a striker with taekwondo. Oh wait, when was the last time the guy practiced or used taekwondo? Did he even win a taekwondo tournament? He’s the best taekwondo guy ever right? LOL. I don’t care if he’s a 69th degree black belt in taekwondo, it wont mean shit when he’s on his back eating elbows and fists as his last meal, or getting bashed in the head with his own arms after getting them ripped off. Is taekwondo supposed to be better than tai or boxing for striking? And pushing 50yrs old isn’t helping any of that either. Randy and Coleman are about as old, but they have decades of experience, and decades of real mma training. Your saying a 6th degree black belt in taekwondo, is valid combat training for mma? Yes, i agree taekwondo is a form of combat but it doesnt give the old guy any better chance of winning in an mma fight. If you think a guy almost 50 yrs old, is gonna win with taekwondo, your fukin’ retarded. Football is not a fukin’ combat sport, your running like a ram and push/pulling a guy down, throwing a ball around, or kicking them. Being skilled at kicking balls, don’t make you a good fighter, it gets you disqualified. Tackling and wrestling is 2 different things, yes, there is a difference. Tackling is pure offense, wrestling includes defense. To bet on a guy in an mma fight ‘cause he’s a better football player than his opponent is retarded. If walker was fighting anderson silva, would you bet on walker? cause he’s a better football player? LOL. You would bet on a guy with 0 mma experience over another football player that has won a few mma fights? And i believe 1 or 2 of them have about 2-3 yrs mma training with greg jackson. Yet you’d bet on the better football player… Good luck with that…

i didn’t read all that but i got the jist of it, would i bet on walker vs a mma fighter no, aganist one of the guys i have seen on tuf so far- i wouldn’t bet but i would give him a good chance to win. i guess we will have to see him fight to see if he has anything.

If you land one, good, solid testicle mash on someone you get a warning, maybe even a point deduction, but you sap the other guy to the point that he is easy to finish.

LMAO!! Walker will taekwondo your ass LOL with some mother f&ckin taekwondoies moves jaime! Walker is going to do to taekwondo what machida has done for Karate.

Jaime and Puck you’re just being ignorant. No one’s saying that TaeKwonDo is going to make him a champ. Jaime said he has no combat sport experience, which was wrong, and was pointed out. Being a running back in the NFL I promise he’s gotten hit just as hard as anyone in MMA will be able to hit him. Point is, he’s a martial artist that wants to fight. So the fuck what, get over it.

In DW I trust. Couldn’t love that guy more. Rampage got his little, bitty fewings hurt. Tough sh*t. The truth hurts Quinton. He’ll come running back to Dana’s nuts just like Titty did, I mean Tito.

No kidding Puck Head. To be honest, I didn’t even notice until you said that. I was so pissed at his comment.

he was comparing the age.