Dana White: 'Rampage Jackson is a grown man acting like a baby'

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Quoteworthy:
"Because I got so pissed off at him pulling out of the fight with Rashad, I'm speaking my mind -- he thinks I'm trying to ruin his movie career. It's crazy. Listen, I have nothing bad to say about Rampage, he's a grown man. If he decides he wants to walk away from guaranteed good money right now, he's a grown man, he can do whatever he wants to do. What did I do to Rampage? I talked to him as a friend and tried to talk him out of making a bad decision. He doesn't think it is, he thinks he's gonna have a movie career but there's so many fighters I've met over the years who thought they were gonna have movie careers. It's not like he was going after Machida because he wanted the belt -- he didn't want the belt! He said the belt causes too many problems and he just wanted to fight and make money and feed his family -- that's exactly what he told me. All he's been telling me since he got into the UFC is that he wants to fight in Memphis in front of his hometown. We make the fight in Memphis and then he pulls out of the fight because he wants to go make this movie because it has so much sentimental value to him. He's a fighter, that's what he does for a living. Now I'm going through all this crap where I got another fighter saying 'You know what, this isn't what I wanna do for the rest of my life, I wanna make movies, I wanna be a movie star, this is just a second career for me.' Like I haven't seen this one before. Rampage is a grown man. He's acting like a baby right now but he's a grown man. He wants to be in the movie business? Rampage, good luck to you man. I hope you make it big -- and I'm not being sarcastic because Rampage Jackson is a guy that I do like. But Rampage Jackson is a guy that doesn't always make the best decisions."
UFC President Dana White responds to a recent blog post from former light heavyweight champion Quinton Jackson, who abruptly decided to quit fighting to pursue a movie career. "Rampage" says he was mocked by White and got no support to fulfill the dream of playing B.A. Baracus in the new A-Team movie while Dana says he was just trying to help Jackson make the right decision by going with the guaranteed money in the fight game. What say you? Is there a right and a wrong side here -- or is it just a matter of irreconcilable differences?
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I dunno. We’re seeing the basic arguments as in just one side v the other. I like Rampages character and I think he would be a loss, but not too damaging
I never knew he had this whole sentimental thing with Mr.T’s character. So I can’t judge him on that, but if he’s lying, he’s a douche. I thought he woulda lost to Rashad anyhoo but it woulda been a fight worth watchin
I wouldn’t be surprised if he does change his mind again in the next week or 2
by IrishKev on Sep 23, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
who knows what rampage wants, he wants his belt back, then he doesn’t want his belt back, he wants to settle a feud. now he doesn’t want to settle his feud, he wants to play a part in a movie. the only advice i can give him is don’t go after the devil if he tells you he has brian again.
NO NEED 2 MAKE EXCUSES! IF YOU’RE SCARED, JUST SAY YOU’RE SCARED!
by buttcrack obama bin laden on Sep 23, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage has been given everything he could possibly want in UFC: A warm-up fight, followed by an immediate title fight; Having his ass and reputation saved in The Red Bull Freeway Incident; A second title fight, which he turned down; a high-profile 10-week gig on Spike, followed by a fight with his hated rival; and a fight in his hometown that HE REQUESTED. All of this stuff is worth a few million dollars in salary, bonuses, sponsorships and increased visibility, but he walks away from all of it and leaves Dana and the IFC holding the bag. Real classy.
by PW on Sep 23, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I like Rampage a lot as a fighter and usually as a personality but Dana is absolutely right about this one.
by RedDog on Sep 23, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well put PW…you can’t trust a thing this guy says. It really makes you wonder about his mental stability and I’m not trying to put him down but this situation is completely bizarre. I think I have to side with Dana on this one…the guy has been given everything and anything he has wanted. After losing to Griffin Dana gave him a fight he’s always wanted in Wandy, then Rampage says he wants to fight right away and even though Rashad wasn’t ready he came to fight anyways. After that they gave him a title shot against Rashad…Page wanted time to heal and Dana still said he could have the winner. He turns down the title fight to make more money on a reality TV show and then give him a fight with his “rival” in his hometown and he blows it off for a lame movie. This guys has made no sense since his loss to Griffin and his antics have grown to over the top at this point. Dana lets this do his movie but has some choice words about him bailing on the Memphis that was put together specifically for him and he grabs his ball and walks away…simply stunning from a “profressional”.
by Buster Bluth on Sep 23, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana said it best, “It’s not easy making it as an actor these days, even actors aren’t making it as actors these days.”
What is there to like about Rampage anyway? Sure he can be an entertaining character at times but he’s a complete bonehead, who has done some ridiculous things – freeway incident is just one of them. He’s an okay fighter, who really has no chance against guys rashad, machida, shogun, bones jones, etc. He’ll never get the belt back – he’s just too slow and one dimensional. He’s just a thug who probably realizes that he’s not going to beat Rashad or get the belt, so he’s quitting. Who cares? Most of us want to see real warriors who have dedicated their lives to being the best and testing themselves against the best.
by Caknakker on Sep 23, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Caknakker, you should be banned from ever dropping a comment on a Rampage thread again…
Rampage has fought for 39 times over 10 years, he’d beat Rashad for sure! Quinton is a superstar in MMA, and as much of a warrior as you can find!
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
whatever happened to doing your job and shutting the f up? because im pretty sure thats what 99.9% of us do everyday, why should any of us feel sympathy for rampage? the guy makes something like 300-400k a fight plus endorsements, etc. and were supposed to feel bad for him because he wants to go make a movie? give me a fing break, fire this guy immediately
by brendan on Sep 23, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Brendan….I’m on board with that. Couldn’t have said it better myself. But I will add this….see if those movie exec’s bail his a$$ out next time he goes on a Rampage.
by BeerMan on Sep 23, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody is feeling bad for Rampage, they’re pissed because he’s leaving MMA. Rampage could have handled that situation with lawyers and stuff on his own. The UFC took helped him out because of business reasons.
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I see where you’re coming from and agree somewhat. Some may have been for business reasons, but I believe that it was mostly done for personal reasons (like Dana would have done the same for Chuck). Because if you think back, no one was questioning the UFC for Rampage’s behavior. I think it gave them worse press for stepping in to help him than it did good. So I can’t see how it was really good for business other than keeping one of your cash cows out of the pokey.
by BeerMan on Sep 23, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Caknakker… he is way too one dimensional and would get beat probably by Rashad, but would get DOMINATED by Machida
by ---Caesar--- on Sep 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So whats the daily limit on Monster Energy drinks???
by dandeman on Sep 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL, so what does Rashad bring that Rampage doesn’t? worse standup and lesser wrestling.. It’s not like Rashad is a submission master
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
What does Rashad bring that rampage doesn’t? Speed, craftiness, and heart.
by just some dong on Sep 23, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ban me for my opinion? Come on RoBerto, dont be such a drama queen!
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. Your’s just happens to be ridiculous. No offense. Rampage is too slow, and never follows any sort of a game plan. Rashad, although not my favorite fighter, is intelligent and is with the best camp in MMA. His record speaks for itself. Most of his victories were against bigger opponents. Even in LHW Rashad is smaller than most. His only loss is to a guy who is a future legend. Rampage wouldn’t even make it out of the first with Machida. Rampage is a dumbass – you can’t possibly argue with that. He’s tough, but doesn’t have the rest of the package – speed, strategy, athleticism, intelligence. These things make a lot of difference.
Also, you say that Rashad had worse stand up? Come on man! He has great footwork. His hands are real good and he even kicks once in a while. Rampage has good hands but that’s it. You can’t argue against facts.
by Caknakker on Sep 23, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a joke. As i’ve said footwork, speed, athleticism don’t do sh!t if you can’t box and lack some serious technique and defense! you could bring the most athletic guy in the world into the octagon by your standards and he would do great, obviously he wouldn’t stand a chance so that’s whats ridiculous. Rashad’s defense isn’t good, and his composure is questionable so is his chin if you wanna go there..
just some dong: Rashad has bigger heart? whoa, just whoa! what are u smoking dude? Rampage has more heart than most fighters in MMA..
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
rampage has so much heart and will, they have to drag him to train! he has no heart except for a pay check!
by kevin on Sep 23, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
actually Rob he brings faster standup, kicks, and better wrestling!
by ---Caesar--- on Sep 23, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Spot on brendan, I have no sympathy whatsoever for a rich professional athlete walking out on his employers to do something else, breaching his contract as a result, despite being backed by them when he broke the law. If an ordinary person did this they would be an unemployed convict, so all of the “I did it for my family” nonsense is complete BS, the only thing Rampage cares about is money, not his family/friends/fans/opponents/employers, just himself and his cheques. I can’t support or feel sorry for a man like that.
I’m not criticising Rampage for taking advantage of a big movie role, as landing the role of BA is huge. I also can understand him being annoyed at the way that Dana has acted, because his comments in the press conferences for 103 were unneccessary and unprofessional, but delaying, then bailing on a fight and a career is not the way to go about business and quitting over the Internet, crying about your family is childish.
I’m honestly sick of these grown men acting like babies, it makes MMA look bad. One of the main things that attracts me to this sport over something like football (soccer) is how these are not primadonnars looking for a paycheque whilst rolling around on the ground faking injuries and showing disdain to the fans who support them, but about men of honour competing to be the best and sacrificing a lot in training and fighting to win. I don’t expect 2 grown men to argue over the Internet like children because one decided to change careers and the other couldn’t settle a non-issue without making silly insults. Dana and Rampage are both a couple of whining babies and need to grow up, as at the moment all they are doing is damaging the reputation of a great sport.
by David W-S on Sep 23, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
kevin – training has nothing to do with heart. He does train, but he’s over 30 now with 39 fights so how much he trains won’t make that much of a difference, how he performs in the actual fight is all that matters and from what i heard he was overtrained for his last fight.
David: I can’t agree with you on your comparison between football (soccer) and MMA. Football is still so much better, I like watching MMA too but it’s completely different and the business side of the sport is under the ice!
by RoBerto on Sep 24, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
There are two sides to very story and this one is no different. Rampage is doing what he thinks is best and Dana is doing what does best, chastizing anything that goes against the grain of the UFC.
by DJ on Sep 23, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So lets break it down then and look at both sides.
Rampage is mad because…
- He wasn’t given a shot against Lyoto immediately after TUF
- White called him names
- His “secondary” career is being jepordized by his primary one
- The fans are making fun of him on the internet
Dana is mad because…
- Rampage skipped fighting Lyoto for Rashad before TUF and then wanted to fight Lyoto instead or Rashad after TUF
- Rampage signed a movie deal after his fight was scheduled changing the scheduled date of the fight out past February
- The UFC card was placed in Memphis because its his hometown and for no other reason
- Rampage is retiring because he can’t handle being an adult
imo it seems like a lot of Rampages problems were caused by his own dillusional self. Just saying Dana is a prick but Rampage is an idiot. Who would you rather follow, the guy who helped build up the image of MMA or the guy who wears a giant chain and helps to degrade the image of the common black man. Seriously Rampage is making himself into more and more of a joke.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 23, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana didn’t do anything more for MMA than Rampage did… get over yourself
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I never said anything about myself so I think I am over myself thank you. and what has Rampage done for the sport please do tell.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 23, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
RoB…c’mon man. You can’t honestly believe that Rampage and Dana have had equal parts in the successes of the UFC or MMA…
by McArthur on Sep 23, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
no, I don’t. but the fighters/athletes is the main focus in every sport…
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The athletes are the ones we see, but Dana is a huge reason that we are able to see them. He was the one who got a TV deal/show with a solid cable network. without the exposure he brought to the UFC, nobody would have had any interest in Strikeforce cards or even the EliteXC fights on network TV. He has also worked tirelessly behind the scenes to get MMA sanctioned in so many states. Now not only is UFC able to hold events in a lot of different places, a lot more up-and-coming fighters are able to compete in small local shows without incurring massive and possibly prohibitive travel expenses. Ramage is a very good fighter and an entertaining fighter, but it’s not like MMA would never have gotten off the ground without him. There is no way you can compare what Dana has done for the sport to what Rampage has done.
by PW on Sep 23, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol? Dana didn’t do anything more for MMA than Rampage????
I know that’s a lot of “?” but i can’t really emphasize the ? enough.
by frosnt on Sep 23, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
the fact that we even have to mention his name and speak about him is embarrassing, that’s just a sign of how small and pathetic the MMA business is! That is why Rampage is leaving and i couldn’t be happier.. Dana taught all the guys to fight too right so he could attract fans?
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Essentially Rob is saying without out the parts (fighters) how can the builder (Zuffa/Dana) make the machine (MMA)? Well thats the whole thing is Dana didn’t even need amazing fighters like Rampage to do it. He used TUF to bring in noobies who ended up getting the show mainstream. People like Diego, Florian, Forrest, Kos, ect. from TUF truly are the fighters who brought MMA to the main stream. I figured you could explain how Rampage helped benefit MMA because he never has. Rampage was in PRIDE which is responsible for knees on the ground which caused controversy with legalizing MMA here(early day fighters for the UFC were part of the same barbaric problem). on top of that Rampage got love drunk off energy drinks and ran from police while simultaneously damaging property and causing stess to a pregnant women who ultimately lost her baby. and he got a slap on the wrist for it which shows how well our court systems work. Then he goes and dry humps a reporters leg. He likes to talk trash to hype a fight even tho its not the way he feels. On top of that he is a terrible ambassador for TUF and a terrible coach thus far. I’m glad I’m not black otherwise I’d have more reason to hate him for the way he portrays the black man as some loud mouth, chain wearing dog. but yeah that all portrays well in the media and helps MMA go a long way. You need to start thinking more deeply when you retort
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 23, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Roberto you have now just joined the ranks of Introvert. You have absolutely no ground to stand on and you argue your points like some drunkard talking about the state of the economy. If you think that comparrison doesn’t make sense, try reading your own comment. My comment is currently being moderated but it proves how terrible Rampage has really been for the sport. Look at the UFC poster boys, they play by the rules and make bank money, get the fights they want, fight in their hometowns, get good PR events. Dana bends over backwards for these men, just because they aren’t making 8 million a year like in football you expect me to act like he’s shafting them? Rampage could have went to any other dirt org that would have folded or promoted him terribly but he chose the elite group. but as a matter of fact this is like trying to explain something to a cat… just go play with some string or something.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad u think so, cause intro is one of my favorite posters.. the fact that you believe they made it mainstream which they haven’t even done yet with TUF is some crap you got feeded from TV to hype the show which is at it’s tenth season now! Tito, Chuck, Randy and all the other entertaining and good fighters and the sport itself is the real reason as to why ppl watch and that has got them to where they are today, it was always gonna happen..
- Rampage is great at hyping his fights
- he is great on TV which is why they wanted him on TUF nobody cares about his coaching skills.
- He was a poster boy for the UFC, nobody cares what happens in a pro athletes personal life either so don’t try to make a deal about that, fans tune in to see Rampage at work…
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana and his friends at Zuffa made a machine that is called UFC not MMA… do you watch good MMA or the UFC?
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m beginning to think that you are introvert which wouldn’t suprise me. Somebody needs to agree with you, why not let it be yourself. Its not a hype that was falsely created, it was a way for people to take a look at the inside of the sport and see that it was possible for the common man to accomplish. The shows on cable television helped to get MMA to the mainstream and see it wasn’t just cockfighting anymore because if you remember it was banned in most states. I’m talking TUF was a huge deal and anyone who disagrees is being ignorant, no doubt that Randy, Tito, Chuch, ect were a big part in raising the MMA community too but I’m saying TUF was the straw the break the back in terms of really getting it out there. The WEC was an amazing idea as well, not to mention Dana and company have been having fights in other countries. Its amazing to think how far they have brought the MMA community and your one sided logic that Dana is evil and the fighters are being held under his thumb against their will is blinding you. Rampage really isn’t all that good at hyping fights, he just tries to create controversy. He doesn’t know anything but that. And in doing all of his wreckless stunts, he gives MMA a bad name. He makes it look barbaric and backyard. He is trying to take it toward WWE wrestling instead of a respected sport.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 24, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
“Roberto you have now just joined the ranks of Introvert. You have absolutely no ground to stand on and you argue your points like some drunkard”……….“I’m beginning to think that you are introvert which wouldn’t suprise me. Somebody needs to agree with you, why not let it be yourself.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Classic Cogito Ergo Sum!!! That was freakin’ hilarious!!! hahahahahaha Way to go man. That’s why I enjoy reading your comments.
by RedDog on Sep 24, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
go read a few of the articles on bLoodyelbow and tell me if you still feel that way
by john G on Sep 23, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
There are about 4 articles about it on the main page. Pick 1, they are all good and worth reading IMO
by john G on Sep 23, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I read them and my opinion on this subject still hasn’t changed. I sincerly hope you are not trying to defend Rampage here. I understand the need protect his body and family but the man chose the wrong way to go about it. Now we have a giant mess and finger pointing. Sorry but Rampage is bad PR.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 23, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i wouldn’t defend rampage but the article was spot on for dana’s behavior. he can act like that all he wants but it will come back on him.
by roy on Sep 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, the Dana articles are spot on.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 23, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats all I was trying to say Cogito. I am not defending Rampage at all! Believe that! If I actually believed that I would never get to see him fight in the UFC again, I would be furious…but I dont believe that at all! Thats why I dont even think that this should be an issue that we should be talking about, because it will be resolved in no time….I do however think the bigger issue that we should be debating is what the articles about Dana pointed out. again, dont take this post as me defending page and blaming Dana….I just think that a much more serious issue is Dana’s behavior that those articles pointed out!
Eventually his behavior is really going to COST us Fans!
by john G on Sep 23, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt, I agree that I think if worst comes to worst Lorenzo will step up again and take care or Rampage like he wants and we’ll get to see the fight we want. I also agree that Dana is getting a bit wreckless at times. They need to start cutting his time in interviews or give him a PR person to start controling his answers or the questions he’s given. In short Dana needs to start acting more like a president and start averting more of the questions away from himself and his own personal opinion. But as you can tell he can always forgive even his worst enemies, like Tito so we at least know its possible for him to see the light as thick as his head may be.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 24, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Let it always be said tho, that I still wanted to see Rampage fight Rashad and in no way am I saying Rampage isn’t good as a fighter, I personally think he beats Rashad and can take Lyoto which is why all of this crap he’s pulling is really confusing me.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 24, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Blodyelbow sucks @ss. It’s a perfect place for UFC haters and Fedor Nuthuggers.
by Natas on Sep 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I am also on Dana’s side….If Rampage really wants to make money and feed his family, wouldn’t he choose the fight over the movie? Dana said he was missing out on millions. If Rampage really cared about the money he would see where his bread is buttered. The money he could make off the pay per view, his endorsements, and residual income from the show should squash any type of would-be movie aspirations. I think he just doesn’t want to fight anymore, he’s been more of a clown in his interviews then serious. I my opinion, the shape shape and condition he was in was under Juanito.
by Henderi on Sep 23, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Rampage knows he is not evolving as a fighter.
by matt on Sep 23, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana is just too much. Rampage did him a favor on being in TUF 10 !! this is how he repay him..
Rampage wanting the money more for his familiiii, yeah, he said that from day 1. what’s wrong with that ?
by Sean on Sep 23, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Bottom line… it’s all part of the business and a fighter who fights pro is no longer a purest he is a product, a product that makes Dana and his partners way more money than Quinton will ever see. In business one has to protect his interest so Dana’s is always the UFC first and Quinton’s has to be himself a pro fighter is like any other payed celebrity they are an Incorporated product and they need to earn as much as they can while the light still shines. So the big screen is just another fight for him to take and if he does not fair then he can make a lucrative come back to MMA.
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by Ali on Oct 16, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Tough call on this arguement…both Dana’s and Page’s points are equally irritating and immature
by McArthur on Sep 23, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
They are both spoiled…I have a harder time feeling bad for Rampage though…it seems as though he puts himself in rediculous situations…if not for Dana Page could possibly be behind bars. The UFC spent millions marketing TUF and Page bailed on them. Something should be said here about loyalty. I don’t agree with the way Dana bashes guys but he does have valid points
by McArthur on Sep 23, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
C’mon Dubs…poop-face??? Watch your language man. lol
by McArthur on Sep 23, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, just a momentary elementary school relapse. LOL
by PW on Sep 23, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Buster: I am curious to hear what you think about the articles about Dana’s behavior on BE. Im not being sarcastic, I just read those articles this morning and it gave me a lot to think about. when you get the chance, read those articles and give me your thoughts.
and thats not just for Buster, I would be curious to hear what many of you have to say about Dana’s behavior and how it hinders the future of the sport. to me that is a much more serious issue, then this silly beef between Page and Dana that will be resolved in a week!
by john G on Sep 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I read them John and have mixed emotions! I got to admit you are having an open mind to this subject and it’s nice to see! Here’s my 2 cents, take it for what it is… my true feelings!
Roberto is crazy to compare what Rampage and Dana have done for mma. Dana has buit mma from basically the ground up and turned it into a billion dollar company. He and his friends/business partners took a chance and it panned out.
Now on to Rampage… He optimizes what not to be when I raise my son! He’s not smart, rude, craves attn. and is lazy! He wants to act (I have no problem with that) but his secondary “dream” is interfering with his profession. That said, it’s been widely reported he doesn’t like to train and needs to be baby sat during training. He’s giving up an estimater 3 million dollars minimum on the hope that the A-team will have a sequel (which proves he isn’t getting paid shit for this one). He cannot fight in any other organization (to answer ur question John) until his UFC contract is honored! So if this movie bombs (which it’s already projected to do) and the UFC locks him out, he’s screwed!
Now on to Dana. You can’t say he helped Rampage because of star power only because he also helped out and was loyal to: Neer, Sherk, Guillard etc.
Dana is a very loyal guy as long as your loyal to him (mob ties and rules show)! He stands to lose more money in this than Rampage does… the real loser in my opinion, and is being overlooked is Rashad! Dana will rebound, but Rashad is losing a pay day and a big one at that.
Dana will be Dana and thats why you either love him or hate him, he speaks what he’s thinking and those kinda people there is no in between (I know, I’m like that)! You either agree or disagree.
I blame Rampage for turning down 2 fights, begging to fight in memphis and backing out and for actually believing he’s done anything for the UFC! The UFC was doing fine pre-Rampage and will be fine post-Rampage!
by kevin on Sep 23, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with most of what you wrote there kevin, and as a person i don’t have a problem with the way dana talks but don’t you feel in the long run talking like that to the media or public will hurt him,the ufc and in the end the fans?
by roy on Sep 23, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe Roy,but I respect someone who tells it how they really feel, over someone who spins it in their favor! I respect him more than someone who sugar coats it! He’s in business and it’s “high profile” look at the crap goodell took for suspending Vick after he already served prison time, he felt it was justified and that’s all that mattered. Dana flew to LA and bailed Rampage out../ did he have to do that? NO, he must genuinely like him!
by kevin on Sep 23, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
here’s the guy who really loses in all of this..
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/9/23/1051902/ultimate-fighter-coach-rashad
by kevin on Sep 23, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
NO, he must genuinely like him!
i wouldn’t dout that he likes him but i am sure he bailed him out more becuase rampage is a star for the ufc more than he did it as a friend.
by roy on Sep 23, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i like the way rashad is handling it and what he said is probally true, i think we will see rampage fighting in the ufc for sure.
by roy on Sep 23, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice post Kevin. I agree that Rashad is the biggest loser in this scenario…the show and the fight would have pocketed him some serious coin and gave him a solid win to get back to the title. The other part that pisses me off is that had Rampage got drunk on energy drinks sooner we’d be seeing Randy and Rashad tangle…another big payday for Rashad lost.
I read the articles on Dana and although I find Dana’s honesty and insulting comments amusing at times…he does tend to go overboard on bashing reputable people. I had no quams with him bashing people like Jared Shaw or guys on the TUF show that messed around or bashing guys that put down MMA in general. I don’t care for his Fedor bashing and he basically discredits anyone not in the UFC. I also don’t care for his candor with the Randy fiasco. In those cases…he needs to just stick generic comments and not go on tirades. I think Dana overall is good for MMA cause he’s charismatic, a great promoter, and he’s always loyal to those that are loyal to him. He’s stood behind many of his fighters. I don’t put a lot of stock into what Dana says most of the time and I do think he’s rubbed many people the wrong way but at the end of the day…the UFC is still the #1 MMA org by far and a he’s played a big part in that. His personality might be brash but he gets the job done at the end of the day.
As far this situation goes…I think he went a little overboard with his comments. I wouldn’t have said “you can’t fix stupid” for instance. In the end though…Rampage went against his word and his contractual obligations. I believe that Dana bent over backwards for him. Rampage had his title shot twice and blew them both off(I understand the first time cause he wanted to heal). I just don’t think Rampage cares about anything but money…he’s not intersted in the belt, glory, a legacy, or even being a fighter at this point. His motivation is hyping fights to get good money and he trains enough to get by as evidenced by Griffin.
Whether this blows over or not…this is losing him fans.
by Buster Bluth on Sep 23, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage is the athlete, I didn’t mean just Rampage vs Dana i meant all fighters like Rampage vs Dana.. I mean i became a fan because of Tito Ortiz and simply because i love to watch fights which happes to be under MMA rules, I didn’t even know who Dana was back then and i would have been better off not ever knowing who he is..
by RoBerto on Sep 23, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Kev, Mac, Brendan and Buster all hit the nail on the head in this topic, I agree with everything that I’ve read from you 4 so far.
I feel bad for Rashad especially, he gets a lot of stick off fans but he has acted professionally throughout and he deserves the payday more than anybody.
Dana and Rampage are both a couple of babies and I’m sick of talking about them and this whole debacle to be honest. Hopefully there’s something better to discuss tomorrow.
by David W-S on Sep 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I cant really disagree with anything you guys said. I am not a Dana hater like introvert. Many times, dana’s rants make me laugh, and his personality was great to get the sport where it is today, but I am seriously starting to think that the way he is conducting himself will hinder the sport from continuing to grow. Dana is a very powerful man, with power comes great responsibility, and he needs to start being more professional. I think the UFC has gotten to big for him to continue to act the way he does.
Kevin, dont take this as me bashiing you, but I do hate it when people like Kevin say that they like dana cause he always keeps it real and tells you how he feels. IMO, that is BS! Dana has lied countless times to the pubic. Half of what he says is BS, the other half is genuinely how he feels. I mean I remember when Dana stood at the podium, and with a straight face called Fedor a Farce who isnt even top 5. Dana is not a stupid man, and I am sure that he knows Greatness when he see’s it. I also dont think iit was right or professional of him to disclose info about Rampage’s movie that got Page in trouble with the producers. That is just something that you dont do in my opinion. I also find it alarming that MOST of the UFC’s biggest stars all have had, or presently have problems with Dana and Zuffa. That is really alarming to me.
I just think that at the point where the UFC is today, Dana needs to really change the way he conducts himself in public if he wants the sport to continue to grow.
by john G on Sep 23, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see that side of the argument too John. I think if Dana has time to think, he’s calculated in what he says and says what’s best for the UFC (Fedor is a farce), but if asked a question and put on the spot, I believe he gives his honest assessment, whether it’s good or bad! I don’t really see how he’ll hinder the sports growth, mainstream media and casual fans will always see the dana that comes off great like in the last TSN interview or the interview with that young kid in oregon, while the “bad (honest)” interviews will only be heard or seen by the hardcore fans searching mma forums!
by kevin on Sep 23, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He won’t hinder anything if he stays out of the way! let the sport have it’s way without some guy trying to put his face on it!
by RoBerto on Sep 24, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Well what your getting at is a two sided arguement John. Dana always keeps it real in terms of his company. He is protecting the image of the UFC and of course tells bold faced lies to protect their image. Everyone seems to like to take the fighters side and argue for them when in reality these are all grown men and they know what they are signing up for. I don’t feel bad for the little pansy that joined the army and then got mad because he is constantly told what to do and getting paid little to do it, you signed a contract, maybe you should have went to college and gotten a little more brain smarts before making a big decision you couldn’t quite comprehend. If that’s not something you can handle then don’t do it and don’t make excuses. That’s the only real problem I had with Fedor is that he kept making excuses instead of just saying, I think the UFC is to controlling and its not for me. Sorry, once they are more lenient on allowing cross promotion, I’ll join, nuff said. Now in terms there is a limit how far Dana should go and this depends on the Fertittas to put him in check. Dana saying what he feels is usually a nice touch cause it burns the fighter and causes them to react, but when it gets to far he needs to know when to swallow his pride. Its hard to do but maybe some anger management courses might help him. Also getting him out of the spot light will help as well. It’d be better if we got Dana to comment on TUF prospects or potential match ups and just leave the headlines to the MMA orgs to fix. He can also use the UFC website to spin issues his way as well without dragging his coat through the mud. In essence I like Dana because he is actually a smart business man. Tito was just a chump trying to keep his name in the headlines who ended up back where he was before making less than before. Also I can’t stand people who make comparisons and then try to generalize their comparisons. Rampage deserves absolutely NO credit for for bringing MMA where it is today. I’ve already provided the proof and using his name as an example is extreme ignorance. Fighters only get partial credit because they only come to fight, they don’t promote. If it was all due to the fighters then Strikeforce, DREAM, PRIDE, Elite XC, Affliction would all have been more responsible for where MMA is today but for the life of me I can’t see what any of them have done except show how unstable and relatively young the MMA community is. Dana White haters like to always just point out what a loud mouth he is without ever giving credit to what he has truly done for the sport. and anyone who can’t give credit where credit is due doesn’t deserve the time of day to be heard.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 24, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Let Rampage go fail at his acting career. You can only play a guy that people laugh at because you sound like such a moron so many times.
by Felix by day, El Mexicutioner by night on Sep 23, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
I agree Rampage is making the wrong decision and pursuing acting. But the fact that we as fans “always” have to chose sides between Dana and everyone else is ridiculous. Say what you want about how great of a businessman he is (which he is), but he has lost so many fighters and great opportunities for fans to his big mouth and pride. Rampage would still be fighting if Dana didn’t go straight to the public to air dirty laundry. I am so sick of this guy, I wish the Fertitta brothers would just put him behind the scenes. Be a professional Dana.
by Casey on Sep 23, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The UFC came up on their own without Rampage. I’m sure they will prosper fine without him.
by Felix by day, El Mexicutioner by night on Sep 23, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point, Casey!
Whether people agree with it or not, Rampage has been pursuing this B.A. role for a long time. I heard him talking about it months ago in interviews. He auditioned for it, campaigned for it, and finally got it. Now he’s supposed to drop a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a once-every-month event!?! Memphis isn’t going anywhere. Rashad isn’t going anywhere. Dana just said how hard it is to get into acting and here Rampage is with the kind of high-profile role that 99.9% of professional actors are salivating over and Randy or Baz would kill for, and he’s supposed to walk away from it so Dana won’t have to reschedule? Dana reschedules all the time! Anderson Silva is the reigning champion and takes time off for imaginary surgeries whenever he doesn’t want to fight. Dana just wanted to punish Rampage for not living his life to line Dana’s pockets. So he calls Rampage a retard and his movie garbage and talks all sorts of trash about him. If Dana knew anything about Memphis, he’d know you don’t disrespect a brother like that and just expect him to be ok with it and kiss your bald white buttocks.
by shonuff on Sep 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to watch Iron Eagles as a kid with my dad, I should campaign to be a fighter pilot now???!!!
by kevin on Sep 23, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
“…here Rampage is with the kind of high-profile role that 99.9% of professional actors are salivating over…”
Thats the funniest, as well as the most asinine, thing I’ve read all week. I couldn’t even finish reading the rest.
by Felix by day, El Mexicutioner by night on Sep 23, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Rashad is the one getting screwed the most here in the short run. He did the Ultimate Fighter with the thought that if he beats Rampage he gots a shot at the belt. Personally, I am not a fan of Rashad (think he is way too cocky) but I really feel bad for him here.
I do respect Rampage saying he only fights because he’s good at it and it pays the bills, but I think he reasons for doing this movie are a bit irrational.
by WB on Sep 23, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
rampage is a baby. come on people – dana put a show in memphis specifically for rampage! and then rampage backed out of it! id be pissed at Page too
by newfie on Sep 23, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
Its exactly as the thread says. Its just 2 different opinions that don’t see eye to eye. Dana is not right like he says, and can’t tell rampage he’s making the wrong decision. He doesn’t know. The gracious thing to do would be let rampage do what he’s doing, & if it fails he can look like the bigger man taking him back, or he can do or say nothing about it.
Wouldn’t that be something
by Daniel worby on Sep 23, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
Dana IS right despite his brashness…he spent $$ on marketing Page/Rashad through TUF only to watch it fail due to the fact that Page isn’t loyal. Page had a decision to make between honoring the company that made him famous in the US, bailed him out of jail, and made him millions OR do a shitty re-make in hopes of pleasing his dad because they used to watch a TV show together?!?! Fu*kin’ rediculous
by McArthur on Sep 23, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Great point Daniel about the opinions we all know Rampage is a popular fighter like him or not he raises the PPV buy’s but he obviously doesn’t have the heart to fight anymore by what both of them are saying. I seen others on this site talk about how Rampage was ducking Machida and this has been confirmed by Danas statement wich shocks me because I know if Evans had it he would be fighting Evans for the belt. As for Dana he has to say something to the media about this as it’s huge news in the MMA world saying nothing he wouldn’t being doing his job. If Rampage wanted to come back I’m sure Dana would welcome him back. As a Rampage MMA fan I’m disappointed hopefully he does well with the A-Team because even if he comes back I can’t see him being the same calibure of fighter unless his heart is in MMA wich it has clearly not been for at least the last year.
by Puck Head on Sep 23, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Right or wrong doesn’t matter!!! It’s the contract that does!
by BOW on Sep 23, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If Zuffa already had Rampage’s signature on a contract to fight Rashad in Memphis, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Nobody breaks a Zuffa contract, so clearly, this was only a verbal agreement, the terms of which we will never know since we’re getting two different stories from the parties involved.
by shonuff on Sep 23, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
thats so messed up! i like rampage. and i like the way dana handles his business, but now the two of them? head to head…? yeah, dana can be a douche, but id be pissed at rampage, too. you scratch my back, ill scratch yours and a lot of ppl were hangin dry waiting for theirs thanks to the sentimental memories of jackson. yeah, good luck on that movie career. from the hear of it, sounds like jacksons heart isnt even in fighting anymore. hes gone commercial. next you know, hell pull an ICE MAN!
by ifookbert on Sep 23, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
Rampage is correct Dana ran his mouth again thinking he could be little and put down something else one of his fighters are doing so Rampage wants to piss him off more and hurt him back by doing this. Having said that though the UFC/Dana have done a lot for him but they need to find a balance and this being such a big movie and meaning a lot to him because of his dad its Dana who is in the wrong. If it was a terrible movie id be on Danas side but its something huge so im on Ramage’s side.
by Tony on Sep 23, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
Good point, Tony. And it’s not like the Memphis Colluseum and FedEx Forum are booked up. At least half the weekends in Memphis, there’s nothing going on at any of the major venues. It would have been easy to reschedule and still make everyone happy. Dana is just power-trippin! Again!
by shonuff on Sep 23, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Or better yet, go ahead and do 105 in Memphis. Let Rampage just fly in and out the same day and do some media hype for the UFC. Then come back next year after Rampage destroys Rashad and have him fight Machida here in Memphis for the title.
Speaking of Memphis, I still haven’t heard what venue they supposedly booked for this event. Anybody know?
by shonuff on Sep 23, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So Rampage will have an extended career in acting?
Rampage is a funny/interesting dude but he isn’t extraordinary by any means.
Imagine Rampage as a super hero?…Wait..That would actually be pretty funny.
by DubNub on Sep 23, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
Dana: rampage is a grown man and i don’t want to say anything bad about the guy…..but just hold on a second while i trash him
give me a break dana. you couldn’t postpone the fight one month like rampage asked? dana hates it when his fighters start getting a mind and dream of their own. as far as dana is concerned, if you aren’t making money for the ufc, you are the enemy. how many crap movies starring ufc fighters has zuffa bankrolled?? more than a few and i bet dana worked around their training. dana is full of shit on this one.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 23, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
AMEN! Typical Dana hypocricy. “Oh, I’m Mother Theresa, look how I sacrifice my life for my beloved orphaned fighters and still they persecute me!”
by shonuff on Sep 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you have any idea how much of a pain in the ass it is to postpone a scheduled event??? Contrary to what you seem to think, there are more people involved than just Dana and Rampage. What about the other 17 fighters on the card who now have to alter their training camps? What about rebooking the arena? What about the ripple effect it will have on other events that have been scheduled in accordance with this one? What about all the money that’s been put into marketing the event? Rampage is a selfish, whiny douche and is screwing over more people than just Dana because he wants what he wants and wants it now.
by PW on Sep 23, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage is a fool!! The sports will continue to grow without him, it’s up to him if he wants to leave then let him!! All talk and no action for page, seems like he wanted to create a rivarly with rashad through his “acting”, not fighting, what a fake guy!! He’s used the ufc here and it shows!!
Dana forget rampage for now, he only cares for himself, not the ufc or the fans!!
by Mo on Sep 23, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
I didn’t realize that a belt could hold a curse over you? I hate excuses just because you are weak minded.
by VNDK8 on Sep 23, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
Rampage will have a GREAT career in acting…
If they always cast him as BA Barracas.
Page, you’re a funny dude, but you’re a character of a character… stick to fighting.
by danthrax on Sep 23, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
I think Dana is absolutely right. UFC has does WAY MORE than Rampage has for UFC.
by Shu on Sep 23, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
Rampage has his side of the story, Dana has his. The truth, as always, lies somewhere in the middle. Having said that, I like Rampage as a fighter, and when he dedicates himself to training and fighting as best he can, he’s a force to be reckoned with and definitely a threat for the belt. I don’t think anybody has an issue if Rampage wants to quit the fight game and try his luck at acting, but the way he went about it stinks. As Dana said, he wanted to fight in Memphis in front of his home crowd, and the UFC set it up for him, only to have him renege on the bout to fulfill some child-hood fantasy of being B.A. Baracus? Dana is right on this one, Rampage isn’t thinking maturely and responsibly, and on top of it, he’s disrespecting Rashad, his fans, and the UFC. I sure hope he can act too, because he might not be welcomed back to the UFC if his plans fall through.
by Toelock on Sep 23, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions
I think they’re both telling the truth…what lies in the middle is the reasoning behind they’re arguements…to me, Dana’s reasoning makes the most sense…Page (in not so many words) as admitted that he has bailed on the UFC
by McArthur on Sep 23, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when he yelled I want my belt back?!!!! Well if you listen closely you can actually hear him saying I DON’T want my belt baaaaack!!!! lol . His mental focus is not in the game anymore , he doesn’t have in him. Having the title is a curse? That means he can’t handle it mentally, so he is done.. Like I said he doesn’t have it in him anymore.
by Lestat on Sep 23, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
I think they’re both acting like babies to be honest. Dana needs to stop airing in-house disputes in public and Rampage shouldn’t be throwing his toys out of the pram.
by Neil on Sep 23, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah he does do his dirty laundry in public too often. Pair of muppets.
by RobH86 on Sep 23, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL ti the poeple that think it is no big deal pushing back a major event like the UFC for a month. You do not realize the planning it takes to put a show like that on. Everytime Rampage/Rashad hits a piece of paper or a poster it costs money. So hate Dana or love him, he only gets pissed if you do something that he thinks f!*ks him and the UFC, which helped Page out way more then they should have with the law.
by Jordakistan on Sep 23, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
i don’t know why so many of you fools are making this a UFC v. rampage argument. they have profitted each other in the past, but just because one side benifited more doesn’t mean the other side owns them. dana handled this badly and will probably lose another fighter, for a little while at least.
rampage is getting older, he needs to look for other opportunities. he admitted that injuries and father time are going to keep him from competing like randy does. would dana or any of you clowns give a shit about rampage if he drops his next two fights?
exactly! rampage needs to look out for himself right now. his fight career is coming to a close.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 23, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
I would be very surprised if Rampage actually calls it quits for good. I wonder if this will affect the TUF ratings?
by RobH86 on Sep 23, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions
I love Dana White but seriously sometimes the guy gives me the shits with his childish antics and over the top public bitching of fighters but on the other hand at least he’s consistent at it.
As for Rampage, forget letting the UFC and it’s bankroll down…DUDE you’ve let down every fight fan across the globe. I don’t begrudge him for going off to do a movie, in fact i wish him all the best. But this has been handled poorly and surely Rampage knew long before TUF 10 started there would be a time clash between movie & fight!
I think Rampage took the movie because Rashad is in his head. Rampage knows he cant knock out what get cant catch and Rampage knows his fighting ability is limited (Joe Rogan pointed this out on air for him) and it’s mostly because he’s LAZY and his only motivation is $$$$ as opposed to wanting to be the best of the best. If you wont fight Rampage please don’t run your mouth.
by Aussie Mick on Sep 23, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
I was a fan of rampage, but i think he just doesn’t have faith in himself anymore. He claims now that he doesn’t care about the belt, i think thats cause he knows he can’t beat machida.i still think he could beat rashad though, and i was looking forward to it aswell :(
by vinrex7 on Sep 23, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions
There is one single thing i agree with Rampage about and its that his fans are “dumbasses” (quoted from rampage himself)
Who the hell would be a fan of this idiot?
by Lester The Pimp on Sep 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
Dana sounds like a baby as well.. He thinks he is more important..I got creamed on here the other day for saying this but I will say it again.. Rampage does not owe the UFC anything..Life is about following your dreams and doing what you want..He paid his debt to Dana by saving the crappy ppv with Jardine.. He made the UFC millions.. If a man is making you millions of dollars then I do not know a company that would not step up and stand up for thier employee if they did what Rampage did with the hit and Run. He paid them back his debt is done..I dont want to see him leave but he does not owe fans anything either. He fought every time we paid for a ppv. That is all he owes. He doesnt owe future fights. If he would have been a gatekeeper or new comer do you think the UFC would have supported him through the hit and run stuff.. Nope.. I dont want to hear they supported Guillard and they supported Josh Neer with thier troubles.. Those were a failed drug test and a DUI.. neither guy was facing major prison time.. I didnt hear any special interviews for them or Dana going to visit them in jail. He was protecting a financial asset.. The asset made him Millions and the asset is now gone and Dana is mad..
by lance on Sep 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
rampage clearly said in his blog, he was promised a fight with machida, but dana told him to do tuf, saying it wouldnt jepordise his chance at the belt.
then, low and behold, dana then says, he HAS to fight evans at the end of TUF, even though he initially promised no.
White was also aware the a team thing was likely to happen, rampage was on jimmy kimmel last year saying he was trying to get the role.
plus, white was slagging him off on all sorts of media, just like it appears he’s doing here.
clearly rampage has made some dumb mistakes before, and the ufc have obviously helped him out, but had white acted more like the president of a company, the whole situation probably could have been avoided.
by ben on Sep 23, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions
ben your statement…
clearly rampage has made some dumb mistakes before, and the ufc have obviously helped him out, but had white acted more like the president of a company, the whole situation probably could have been avoided.
??how should a president of a company act to a situation like this?
by Puck Head on Sep 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage is afraid of Rashad.. I pitty the fool. lol
by Ric Flair on Sep 23, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions
Dana White…the carbon copy of unprofessionalism at it’s finest.
by introvert on Sep 23, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions
At least Dana didn’t say anything about not signing Rampage back to UFC which we all know will happen.
by gunnerjoe on Sep 23, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
I actually agree him, but I find it comical that Dana White says another grown man is acting like a baby. Strong idiom by Douche White there.
by L E E on Sep 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions
Why does Dana wanna make a decision for his fighters, Chuck and now Page? He has no right to make a decision for anybody. Dana did alot for UFC to be where it’s at now but for UFC to grow further, he’s the one who needs to hang it up.
by LLC on Sep 23, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
I think something like 3 losses in a row made Chuck’s decision for him.
by Bryan139 on Sep 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Please get your facts straight shit head….It was 2 in a row, and YES 4 out of 5 but look at the streak of W’s he had prior to this….
by MMA Fan 212 on Sep 23, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
dana white dumbass foo….rampage should just make the movie after go 2 strikeforce just to piss white off haha that would be awesome
by jdub on Sep 23, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
A-Team is my favorite show of all time and I think that Rampage is perfect for the role of BA Baracus. While I think it sucks that filming conflicted with the fight in Memphis (especially because this will be my 1st UFC live event) I don’t blame Rampage for doing this movie. Unlike some of the straight-to-DVD crap that other fighters i.e. Couture, Franklin, and Cung Le has made, this movie is potentially a star making role and has the could be a blockbuster (I mean come on it has Liam Neeson in it!). Having said that I do agree that Page is being a pansy ass about this and should just come back to fighting after the movie is done filming. Even if the movie is a hit I imagine he’ll be typecasted as the “tough black guy” and want to come back to fighting anyway.
by Captain Ernesto on Sep 23, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
Strikeforce is probably already leaving him messages.
by Bryan139 on Sep 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
Hard to do when Rampage has a contract with the UFC
by MM_Eh on Sep 23, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
They can still call on him. Rampage has a contract with the UFC…Strikeforce doesn’t. Why would they get in trouble for calling him?
by introvert on Sep 23, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ha,ha,ha, captain e. what type of roles did you think rampage was going to play??? :) i doubt he was going to get cast as the sensitive type anytime soon. rampage could be the next “black stallone.”
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 23, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
Rampage is just doing what anybody in the same situation would do. If anybody here was offered a major part in a hollywood blockbuster movie they would probably sell their own mother for the chance. Rampage has been offered it on a plate. Fighting is a tough life and I’m sure Rampage realises it’s not going to last forever. This movie offers him a chance to earn a living for his family without getting punched around the face most days. It may not work out for him in the long term but he’ll never know unless he tries so I give props to the guy for attempting to move out of his comfort zone into a different career. If it doesn’t work out I’m sure he’ll be back fighting anyway. The irony in Dana White telling anybody to stop acting like a baby is mindboggling.
by MK on Sep 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions
Honestly, Rampage should have put all that aside, and fough Rashad. We the viewers are/were expecting to see the coaches get down. And it sucks for him to drop out of this fight for a movie. I honestly dont see a movie career. But when that fails, and since he’s droppin the UFC and making Dana look bad, whats he gonn do about providing for his kids. Next thing u know, he’ll end up on StrikeForce or some other UFC competitor. He’s a dick. Couldnt he have told the movie directors to hold off? Im just saying, he’s leaving Dana hanging. Its just wrong.
by alpo on Sep 23, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
They are both ridiculous.
First of all, for Dana to tell Rampage that starring in an
A-Team remake is a bad career choice is complete nonsense, especially if it is true the cast that they claim to have put together. I mean, I can understand if it’s some crappy, low-budget, B-level stinkshow but Bradley Cooper is a rising star and is a perfect casting choice to play “Face”.
Jessica Biel, Liam Neeson might make it very interesting.
by Amir on Sep 23, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
Amir you got to trust me, if the cast of A-team is not a B-level cast, Rampage acting gonna make this movie a B-level stinkshow. He’s not an actor. Damn, how the fuck mma fighters come to think they can be good actor and have a fruitful career? Answer : Money whores Hollywood agents.
by Max on Sep 23, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m no fan of these remake type of movies, but I gotta agree with Amir on this one…Jessica Biel and Liam Neeson sure doesn’t sound like “B-level” to me. As far as you saying that “Rampage acting gonna make this movie a B-level stinkshow”…I think that the same thing was probably said about Mr.T when he started the original show, and that turned out pretty well if I remember correctly.
Some people seem to think that Rampage is going to go in this movie, act like an idiot, say some cheesy lines, and stink up the joint with bad acting…but I think you guys are forgetting that the character he is going to play was built on all of those very qualities. I say Rampage is already in character and will do fine with this film.
JMHO
by introvert on Sep 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
your right intro, he’ll do fine in the movie, but from what i read, he’s making nothing and being promised a big pay day if there is a sequal… to screw your “main” employer to roll the dice like that seems too risky to me!
by kevin on Sep 23, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i am not a big fan of him doing this but your right this role is perfect for him, and what was mr.t a guy who fought on tough man and was a body guard pretty similar.
by roy on Sep 23, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell, if Cleveland can play Mr.T…why not Rampage?
by introvert on Sep 23, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t get me wrong, I love what White’s done for the sport, hell there wouldn’t even be a sport if it wasn’t for him, but come on. Does he have to talk shit about the fighters on a daily basis. He needs to address his issues with them one on one, not on the internet. He punks them in front of the whole world, then he’s shocked when they retaliate. Just like his obsession with making teammates fight each other, because they say they won’t do it. There are plenty of fighters and plently of compelling match ups to avoid this. If it comes down to it being necessary, that’s fine, but why do it just to prove that your the boss, and what you say goes. This isn’t F’ing gladiator. This dude’s ego is gonna get him one day.
by Josh H. on Sep 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
Dana as the name tell us, is a bitch. The rumor is that he suffers from cock in mouth disease. If Rampage wants to broaden his horizons by acting I say go for it. Ms. White wants these guys stuck to his nuts for the rest of their lives so he can pimp then for life. This just in people Dana White is pregnant with Junie Carter’s bastard child.
by cutter on Sep 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
rampage was obligated to fight rashad at the end of the TUF 10 season, he gave dana white his word and then betrayed the ufc by backing out to do a movie role. At the end of the day, it really does seem like rampage is ducking rashad. AND I’m more of a rampage fan then I am of rashad’s (I was happy to see machida KO rashad). Because look… if you’re gonna talk all this smack about a fighter publicly, the least you can do is follow up on it. But he was quick to back out of fighting rashad. Now I’m starting to wonder if he was ducking machida also, the choice that he made to take the role of being coaches on TUF instead of challenging machida for the belt. A series of bad decisions by rampage. Dana has bent over backwards for rampage and now to hear him say he quits proves that he really must be scared of rashad, let alone machida.
by rampageisoncrack on Sep 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
this stupid crap is making me like rashad and i hate that dude.
by chris on Sep 23, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
I think theyre both right, its stupid to take sides in a quarrel like this. They both have good reasons for acting and feeling the way they do. I got respect for both of these guys.
by rhys on Sep 23, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
so who do you all think Rashad will fight next and will it be in memphis?
by hatteras on Sep 24, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions
Dana is just pissed because Rampage is a big money maker. I really don’t think Rampage is scared… that’s stupid if any of you believe that. Him VS Evans would be a great fight. Dana can talk down an acting career and comment how others have failed… but who? Tito, Chuck and Randy? They only had very small parts or were in DVD movies like tito in that stupid stripper zombie shit. Rampage landed a main role pretty much as the next Mr. T! There’s a lot more money in acting and to me… acting is a way better career choice than MMA. Most fighters in MMA are because they need omega boosts of their male macho ego. I love watching UFC… but when some kid in his 20’s tells me he’s a MMA fighter and fights at those amateur bar gigs, my first though it “What a retard”. MMA is a pretty bad career choice to focus on. A lot of people try to get famous doing it these days just like acting, the different is acting wont usually mess up your body and cause physical problems for the rest of your life.
So realistically… who would choose UFC fights which pay i dunno, $20-40K for the very top fighters before manager and other fees. Or hundreds of thousands to possibly several million for a much more fun and less stressful career?
by Nick Newbauer on Sep 24, 2009 1:54 AM EDT reply actions
I agree mostly. But we all want to still see him fight. :)
by jakedasnake on Oct 17, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope he keeps on making decisions like this. Should make for an interesting documentary one day.
by Nick on Sep 24, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions
LOL! Look at all these punk ass keyboard warriors bashing Rampage. None of you have ever accomplished anything he has, yet you talk like your fat pussies are fighters.
Good luck to Rampage in whatever he does. He definitely will be missed in MMA
by real talk on Sep 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
I can see a “Rampage come back” after the movie making thing. It’s all publicity and at the end it helps to put UFC on the news. Now..reality is…Rampage is a good fighter but being a mixed martial ARTIST is a deeper level of commitment…a guy like Lyoto has devoted his early childhood and life to this sport….thats why when you see guys like Lyoto, GSP, Randy, Spider..you can see the gap that separates fighters and artists. But all this mix of people trying to make it just makes the sport more interesting.
by Ronaldo on Sep 27, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
Listen, Rampage can’t fight forever. He needs to secure his future. Look at Cro Cop and Wand, there days are done.
by Dejan Derekovic on Sep 29, 2009 1:56 AM EDT reply actions
Rampage is one of the best fighters out there. So what he wants to quit and do a movie they probley offered him more money. then fighting a punk like rashad. He will be back
by Chris on Oct 31, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions

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