UFC 103 results recap from last night recap and post-fight discussion for 'Franklin vs Belfort'
by MMAmania.com on Sep 20, 2009 12:27 AM EDT
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UFC 103: "Franklin vs. Belfort" went off tonight (Sat., Sept. 19) from the American Airlines Center in Dallas, Texas, featuring a main event between Rich Franklin and Vitor Belfort at a 195-pound catchweight.
It was the first fight for "The Phenom" under the UFC banner since 2005. And he made a statement tonight that he is indeed back and ready to take care of business.
Belfort was able to land an awkward barrage of punches that crumbled "Ace" to the ground early in the first. It didn't appear to be anything too hard, grazing, in fact, but is was fast, accurate and apparently too much for Franklin to handle.
Franklin was clearly out, and in the post-fight interview, admitted that he himself wasn't really sure what happened.
What we can be be sure of is that Belfort certainly set himself up nicely for a possible run at UFC Middleweight Champion, Anderson Silva. It's a match up that the promotion wants and will likely have an easier time selling after tonight's quick result.
Franklin, meanwhile, will have to pick up the pieces and start making some headway in the 205-pound division. He hasn't made much progress on that front because of his recent spate of catchweight fights, but that needs to change.
Sooner rather than later.
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic and Junior dos Santos hooked 'em up in a hard-hitting heavyweight attraction that was billed as the old guard versus the new. Cro Cop wanted to re-establish himself as one of the most dangerous strikers in the sport and "Cigano" wanted remind everyone that he, too, can pack a powerful punch.
Let's just say that the division now has a new young lion leading its pride.
Both fighters traded vicious blows for 10 minutes straight. The first round was close, but dos Santos began to pull away as time ticked down, doing his most damage in round two. He even weathered a hard low blow to the nuts toward the tail end of the second frame, which didn't stop him from coming out guns blazing in the third.
The Croatian couldn't find a home for his trademark left high kick despite repeated efforts to create distance. And that very well could have been the difference maker.
"Cigano" closed the gap and nailed Cro Cop with a hard knee to the face, signaling the end for the 2006 Pride FC Open Weight Grand Prix winner. He ate a few more shots, but then informed his opponent in the heat of battle that he could no longer continue because he could not see.
Naturally, dos Santos began to celebrate, confusing the in-ring official. But it was confirmed shortly thereafter and Cro Cop was immediately bum rushed by medical personnel.
Can't say enough about "Cigano" -- he's a very talented and fearless force in a competitive division. If he keeps this up he'll earn the fight of his life sooner rather than later.
And perhaps we've said too much about Cro Cop returning to his old self. His best days are clearly behind him.
Heavy-handed promotional newcomer Paul Daley knew that his best chance to defeat the more well-rounded Martin Kampmann was to keep the welterweight showdown upright.
He was right.
"Semtex" picked apart the "Hitman" -- who had title-challenging hopes on the line -- as soon as the horn blared to start the bout. Kampmann's corner screamed for him to take the fight to the mat, where Daley is not nearly as good, when things weren't going his way early, but he just couldn't do it.
In the meantime, Daley continued to find a home for his powerful left hook, which eventually led to the finish via strikes. Kampmann never went down, but he was clearly punch drunk and in major trouble before the referee, Yves LaVigne, intervened.
Tough loss for the Danish kickboxer. Huge win for the British brawler.
Mike Swick, the man who Kampmann was supposed to challenge tonight to determine the next 170-pound contender, appeared to want Daley next based on his ringside reaction.
Interested, Maniacs?
Josh Koscheck welcomed Frank Trigg back to the Octagon for the first time since 2005. And if he expected warm milk and cookies he was sorely mistaken.
"Kos" and "Twinkle Toes" -- both decorated wrestlers -- went toe-to-toe from the get-go. It never hit the floor until Trigg went ass over tin cups courtesy of a clean straight right hand. Koscheck followed it up on the ground with several powerful punches that forced the referee in charge of the action to step in and stop it in the first round.
Trigg immediately disputed the stoppage -- even pushing the official -- but the replays showed that he was hurt and in trouble, and it appeared his homecoming was only going to get worse if it continued.
Koscheck called out another decorated wrestler, Matt Hughes, in his post-fight interview. It's too early to tell if that will happen in the near future, but it's safe to say that most fans will want to see it if the fight is ever booked.
As for Trigg, who knows, Martin Kampmann, perhaps?
Former number one lightweight contender, Hermes Franca, was out to put together back-to-back wins for the first time in two years when he collided with Tyson Griffin in the first fight of the pay-per-view (PPV) telecast.
He came into the 155-pound showdown four pounds too heavy at the weigh in, leading many to believe that he was not in the kind of shape required to take on a top, tireless fighter like Griffin.
After tonight's sluggish performance, that now seems like a fair assessment.
Franca looked slow and out of shape. The faded, unkept lilac-colored mop top certainly didn't help change any of those perceptions. And Griffin made him pay, registering his first stoppage since 2006 (that's not a typo) with a brutal second round technical knockout of the portly Brazilian.
It was great to see Griffin score such a convincing win over a relatively big name. He needed it. Franca -- even though he looked like a bag lady -- is very hard to put away. Griffin simply picked him apart with crisp punches and fancy footwork.
Hopefully, he gets a tougher test his next time out -- one that puts him closer to an eventual title berth sometime in 2010 if he keeps winning. Franca, on the other hand, hopefully earned enough to get haircut.
All of 'em.
That’s enough from us -- now it’s your turn to discuss "Franklin vs. Belfort" in the comments section below.
Sound off, Maniacs. Let’s hear what you have to say.
To check out complete UFC 103 results, coverage and detailed blow-by-blow commentary of the televised main card fights click here.
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Cro Cop looked terrible. I feel that the UFC will release him down the road
by Tony on Sep 20, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good thing cro cop inked a few more fights and a few more dollars beforehand. great salesman but he surely is finished. and i’m sure it wasn’t but that belfort ending looked fixed.
by dropnskirtz on Sep 20, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, u shud watch the left hand on the ground to rich’s face..
by guyverbob on Sep 20, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know, it smashed him and like i said i’m sure it’s not fixed but it was def my original thought. the grazing shot barely hit him and it put rich down. i know he’s a goofy guy and trips over his own feet sometimes.
by dropnskirtz on Sep 20, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No fight fixing here as far as I know. Vitor just showed what dedication and hard work could get you.
Just take care of the cardio and TDD, he’s gonna be a champ again!
by The Negation on Sep 20, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so Negation, I know it’s silly but I have nothing against Anderson but I want to see him lose to make that title look competitive again! Vitor looked good as hell and just like others were saying, CroCop looked like a fish out of Fing water!
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 20, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got blasted for saying Franklin “has no chin” earler this week.
Everytime he fights a top tier fighter he at least gets caught and stunned if not finished. Wandy, Hendo, A Silva, Machida, and now Belfort. You could also include Tanner because he stunned Franklin and almost finished him in the first round of their title fight.
Belfort knows how to finish someone that gets stunned.
by jtc2112 on Sep 20, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude those r the hardest hitters in MMA, theres probley no one who can take there hits with no reaction..
by guyverbob on Sep 20, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was by far the easiest card to pick. All my upsets and breakdowns were on point – Daley, Vitor, Junior, Efrain and i thought Drwal could win if he didn’t get blitzed in the first minute.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 20, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he hit him in the temple first, every fighter goes down from that. Rich was still ok on the ground when Vitor landed a huge left hand and followed up with 2 more shots, one to the back of the head and another one to the side.. nothing suspicious at all..
Cro Cop is done, he looked slow and old with no fire in his eyes at all, all he did was push Junior away with his hands, you can’t win a fight like that.
by RoBerto on Sep 20, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although Cro Cop clearly doesn’t have it anymore, I was still very impressed with Dos Antos. He showed strong striking, and was aggressive and athletic. Dos Antos is for real and I’m on board the fan bus.
I have nothing against Kampmann, but was thrilled Daley won the fight. I have absolutely hated the thought of Kampmann in any title fight vs GSP, and thankfully Daley put a definitive end to that craziness and spared us a complete mis-match of a title fight. As for Daley, Swick would make a lot of sense, if not Fitch.
In spite of winning some fights since, Franklin has never been right since the A Silva beatdowns. Somewhat like Cro Cop, Franklin now appears tentative and a little slow in the cage. Speed and aggression wins, and Franklin ain’t got it. Belfort needs a win at 185 vs a top five fighter, then he’d be worthy of a title shot. Hard to fault tonight’s win, but I was hoping to see a little more of Belfort’s overall game come into play. I thought Rich would put up enough resistance to get into the 2nd round anyway.
As for Kos/Trigg, ditto the above comments. Speed and athleticism is the ticket, and I’m afraid some of these guys in their mid to late 30’s have too many hard miles on them. That seemed to be the theme for the night’s fights. Overall, 103 was highly entertaining.
by CL on Sep 20, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree on all points, especialy the last. Cro Cop is done as done can be. He can certainly fight on a UFC fight night, or even headline a TUF finale, but it will just look bad to keep putting him on the main card of a ppv. It is embaressing to keep seeing him promoted as one of the best strikers in mma, only to watch him prove that he is not. Plus, he is the only fighter who has had 4 fights in the UFC, but the promotion can only show clips from Pride fights.
by naturalshadow on Sep 20, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know there was no fix in the Franklin fight, nor am I insinuating that, but the punch that knocked him down was just a clip that he ducked under, really weird. I don’t know if it just caught him off balance or did actually hurt. Clearly the 3 he took on the floor put him out cleanly. It was Just the one to knock him down was clearly ?able.
Kampman! What a chump! I can’t believe he was the #5 WW. He would have been absolutly no challenge for GSP. It looked like he never had seen a left hook before. I understand Symtex has lethal boxing, but how many times do you have to get hit with the left hook before you adjust? GSP is talking about reaching the next level. There is not a WW out there that will push him to hit that next level. To secure the legacy of being p4p that he always is talking about he has to make a move up and now! He walked through the top 4 or 5 ranked fighters and his next viable contender, Swick is ranked 9, and will be clearly outmatched to if that fight happens.
It is obvious how much steroids had to do with Franca’s amazing physique. He looked horrible last night, physically. I never thought someone at 155’s could look so doughy. He had Moobs for crying out loud! Between his hair and his physicque he looked like a train-wrecked tranny hooker! Finally Tyson finishes a fight, finally! A fighter with a decent chin at that. He looked really good last night. His boxing has jumped leaps and bounds.
by Da Monkey on Sep 20, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a great card
i’m not sure how anyone could call the fight fixed…. :S ????
anyway moving on, i couldn’t be happier with tyson’s finish
i never understood why people found him boring, he always brings it and never goes for a boring LnP decision which i am sure he could do to most of his opponents but he chooses not too
i’ve always been a fan and i am so happy he got the finish
dos santos/cro cop was fairly uneventful for a stand up brawl and cro cop just didn’t have it
i thought this one would of been a lot closer and wouldn’t go on for that long, i also thought cro cop was going to really test dos santos’ chin with some big shots but he never really landed any
I hope they set up A.silva/belfort asap! it is not just a dream match up, it is a wet dream match up
by ufcaddict on Sep 20, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only picked 1 fight wrong last night and it was the McFedries fight. I made a killing betting on last nights event.
No doubt in my mind that Vitor would Ko Rich. Nuff said! Bring on Anderson!
I have been taking verbal abuse from 90% of this site for the past 3 years, every time I mentioned SEmtex’s name! Now eat some humble pie FOCKERS! He did exactly what I promised…Knocked, that sissy Kampman the FOCK OUT. At +300, what a huge pay day that was!
Dos Santos did what I thought he would do. bully Cro Cop. I will admit that I didnt expect cro cop to last over 10 minutes.
I hate Tyson, Love Franca, but knew that Tyson would win. Anyone that says they thought tyson would finish Franca is a damn liar!
Trigg proved what I already knew…that signing him to a new UFC contract was an absolute JOKE!
After all the tough fights, I knew Do anjos was finally going to get a win. Happy he did, he deserves some good luck.
I knew that Vladimir was too tough to lose that fight.
I also had money on Miller, so I didnt mind him winning via a freak injury.
9-1 in my picks…I went around 13-2 on my bets last night! BIG Payday for me and all my friends, I also take 10% of 6 of my friends winnings.
What a great night it was, on so many different levels!
Kicking myself for not betting Rick Story, but I vowed to never again bet against a UFC fighter that I have never seen fight,so I stayed away from that fight!
btw: Thanks a million Guverbob, for keeping me updated with fresh links during the entire night. I cant thank you enough brother!
by john G on Sep 20, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously people and your “Fixed” theories need the STFU! your fuckin dumb to even think that shit.
by Jizzo on Sep 20, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my fuckin dumb what? jk bud and it’s *you’re. i’m not saying it’s fixed, i’m saying it was a thought. the same thought i had after i saw ken shamrock’s phantom slip vs good ol’ rich.
by dropnskirtz on Sep 20, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had the same thought the way Franklin went down. I like how Dos Santos noticed CroCop kept closing the distance to push off so he landed several knees..PERFECT!
by derreckla on Sep 20, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erm no it isn’t dropnskirtz….It’s definately “your”
You’re is short for “you are”
by ToeLock on Sep 20, 2009 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA dopnskirtz trying to be all cool with his “proper” english..and he is wrong! haha you need to tighten YOUR skills my man
by newfie on Sep 20, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO dropnskirtz got owned!
don’t try and correct someone if *you’re wrong yourself
*that is how you use ’You’re’ properly
by ufcaddict on Sep 20, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your fuckin dumb or you’re fuckin dumb. it’s the possessive form, right guys? lol my fuckin dumb as in my fuckin dumb followers not knowing what they’re talking about. or is it their talking about lol
by dropnskirtz on Sep 20, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s right you idiots its you’re fuckin dumb now break it down. You-are-fuckin-dumb not your fuckin dumb its not his fuckin dumb now is it?
by slapurself on Sep 20, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know y people swear on this, for all we know its a little teeny booper acting the hard man. it always amuses me.
by ruanfiy on Sep 20, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to try and make a move down to 205 or something. He could actually be competetive there. He is just clearly outsized and overpowered by the new breed of fighter. At least at 205 he will be one of the larger fighters and will be used to fighting much larger fighters. He clearly was overmatched that whole fight. Did you see him using like push chops/elbows every time Dos Santos came in on him in the first round. He was back peddling the whole fight. Still not sure /understand what happened at the end of the fight.
by Da Monkey on Sep 20, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VITOR IS BACK BABY!!!
what i cant believe is that he knocked Franklin down with a grazing shot which is just a testiment to his scary power!
Anderson vs Vitor will be sick!!
ps. fuck u guys who wudnt buy the PPV because you thought it wasnt stacked – best UFC in a long time!!!
by Randy for Couture on Sep 20, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah! Interesting card! Who would have thought Tyson Griff could pull it off…
Man MArquez is gettin’ beaten’ up!
by The Negation on Sep 20, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best UFC since last Wednesday when it was a better UFC hahaha, but it was a good UFC non fight night but seriously last Wednesday was better!
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 20, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, much better actually, but sometimes it just works out that way. It is a crazy sport. haha
by naturalshadow on Sep 20, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a test of the ESMS-Emergency Stuck in Mod System- If this was not a test you would not be able to read this for several hours or ever, much like my other comments,that show up half a day after I post. Thank You for your patience and please stand by…..Obnoxious beeping tone……………………………
Not actually bitching because I love this site, but I just get frustrated sometimes, waiting to see if posts went through or not.
by Da Monkey on Sep 20, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TRU TRU Great fights..great UFC in a long time. We watched I think 7 fights before a fight went to decision. We watched 11 fighs when it was all said and done…would have been 12 if they didn’t replay one.
by derreckla on Sep 20, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
based off this fight cro cop of old wouldve destroyed dos santos with ease. and vitor is back! i knew he had this fight in the bag and for all the people that said franklin would win better luck next time. other two impressive victories were tyson, daley and i was really impressed by effrain. never gave miller much of a chance but to see effrain knock him out that was impressive
by Jared on Sep 20, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop with this Cro Cop of old crap.
The competition in the UFC is to much for him.
The UFC needs to bring back eddy sanchez and maybe Hong Man Choi to make Cro Cop look ok. :P
by natas on Sep 20, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no for real, his kicks were alot faster a few years ago, and had alot more power. this new cro cop is really hesitant i just feel he’s too old.
by Jared on Sep 20, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cro Cop got destroyed by Gonzaga and that was it for him, he’s never going to recover mentally.. just like Cro Cop ended Wanderlei’s career with that headkick KO..
by RoBerto on Sep 20, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re right, Jared. If you watch his fight with Alexsander Emelianenko, he’s been in a lot more trouble against a lot bigger guys and he just bides his time and circles till the perfect moment come for that one big kick. Even though Dos Santos was doing more offensively CroCop was still entirely playing his game until the last 20 seconds of the fight. People who think he was out of his element just aren’t familiar with his style and his patience. They’ve seen his highlight reels instead of his whole fights. CroCop was fine till he got that knee and knuckle right in the eyeball.
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’d still beat Mir though, but that won’t do sh!t for him..
by RoBerto on Sep 20, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So basically Crocop was fine until he got his ass kicked. Crocop’s problem is that he is the Crocop of old. His game hasn’t changed one bit in years, and people aren’t falling for the high left kick anymore. I also think that he has never been able to mentally recover from the beating Gonzaga gave him. The UFC has done everything they can to help him get a win by giving him opponents that will stay standing the entire fight. At this point, I just don’t know if there is really anyone the UFC can give him to fight that he will be able to beat? They could always hand him Kimbo I guess.
by naturalshadow on Sep 20, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would, Roberto, but more importantly, imagine all the joy it would bring to so many fans when Mir gets that cocky smirk kicked off his face and into the parking lot!
I wish CroCop could cut to 205, but having never had to cut weight before, age 35 seems a bit late to learn how to cut 30 lbs.
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think he looked calm and confident like he always used to but Dos Santos’ timing kept him off balance and the distance just wasn’t right. He didn’t look terrible to me but def looked old and as if it might be time to call it a career. Stick to Croatian politics Mirko, we’ve seen enough here. He was just outstruck by a guy with far less training. That tells me the speed and reflexes are just not there anymore…..Chuck???
Kampmann’s fight was downright confusing. I guess he was trying to prove something. He did ok on the feet but I couldn’t help but think as it was happening that it was just a matter of time. When he fought McFedries he tasted the power and thought better of it and took it to the mat and tapped that ass….why not here? Semtex clearly has issues on the ground. I like both fighters and I’m excited to have a newcomer come to the UFC with a splash and an exciting style but unfortunately the 170lb division is stacked with wrestlers who will eat his lunch. I guess the swick fight would be entertaining but lets be honest… there’s no real interesting title contenders. GSP is on another level and will mop the floor with any one below 185 in the UFC. The only fight I’d like to see him have at that weight is Nick Diaz. Other than that I’d like to see him at 185…not because he could beat andy(cuz he won’t), but because there is some potential great fights there. Hendo, Marq and others would all make great fights with GSP.
Great KO from Tyson Griffin. It’s strange cuz we always complain about decisions but tonight I would complain just as much about all the quick endings. What we all want is drawn out wars that end decisively. We’d all love 5 round back and forth fights that take place everywhere but someone gets caught late with a ko or sub. Unfortunately that’s not gonna happen very often(especially as mma grows and fighters become more well rounded), and the reality is decisions are gonna be the norm. One thing I can say however is that despite his record for decisions, Griffin has been in all kinds of exciting fights. Tonight he got a stoppage but I may have enjoyed some of his other performances more. Perhaps it’s time we stop beating guys up for not finishing fights as much….except Guida
by Crowls on Sep 20, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing confusing about the kampmann fight. He can’t handle power. His wrestling is also sub par for WW. He tries to stay composed when in trouble and that’s when his takedowns are good coz guys rush in for the kill. Daley knew what was up and straight mugged him.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 20, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not what i saw….i saw a fighter who didn’t listen to his corner and didn’t stick to that gameplan. He handled mcfedries power fine at 185 and got caught with a kick against marq.(kicks hurt anybody). He seemed like he was a bit too prideful in his kickboxing pedigree to me and wanted to make a statement against the new kid on the block. Bad idea. Either way I thought the exchanges were fairly even early on but it was evident that Martin’s chin would fail first. I like both guys I’m just disappointed that we lose a “contender” and get a guy who can’t handle almost anyone in the UFC top 5 cuz he’s got no ground game. He’ll entertain the hell out of us and I’d love to see him fight Thiago Alves, but then what…. wrestlers will crush him and GSP….forget it
by Crowls on Sep 20, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was confusing about the Kampmann fight is how the ref can stop the fight with his hands up and totally covered up. It was clear that Kampmann was going down soon, but that stoppage was definitely premature. He was very definitely still defending himself.
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
listen, I’m a Kampmann fan, but he was absolutely not “intelligently defending himself”. If it had been let go on, a comeback would have been unreal and it could have been a legendary fight but I have no problem with that stoppage. He was getting abused. His eyes rolled back a couple times and it’s a miracle he was even able to stay on his feet. Tonight had prob the worst roster of ref’s I’ve ever seen but I gotta say they did a good job tonight. Even the Trigg fight, he looked fine right after, but he was clearly getting brutalized and it would have continued if the ref and Kos didn’t stop the brutality. Any night where Miragliotta and Lavigne are on the same card it raises some eyebrows and I even sent Kevin a text earlier while Cro Cop was walking to the cage that “Uh Oh, Miragliotta is doing this fight”, but nothing fishy happened tonight. Some fairly evenly matched fights with dangerous opponents ended via finish….lets not complain. We bitch when there’s too many decisions…..well tonight there was alot of finishes. If your guy lost tonight, suck it up and move on.
by Crowls on Sep 20, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Kampmann was just about done, so I don’t think it changed the outcome, but at least give the guy a chance. He was still standing, and still covering up. This is still a fight, You can only protect the fighters so much. They know what they signed up for.
by naturalshadow on Sep 20, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
guys, kamp did try listening to his corner as soon as he went for the takedown daley stuffed it
by Jared on Sep 20, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stuffed it? come on Jared, one half assed attempt against a guy with no ground game… he bailed on the plan cuz he didn’t like the plan. He prob heard the talk from ppl who thought Condit won the last fight and thought, ok, new guy is comin to town and he’s supposed to be a dangerous striker, “I’m gonna teach him a lesson” and make a statement. He grabbed a single on 2 occasions that i remember but neither time did it look like he really committed to them. He could have taken Semtex down if he really wanted to. He could have taken him down and tapped him no problem. He’s not as slick as sheilds so who knows, if Semtex was able to avoid subs and scramble we may have had an up and down back and forth war before semtex wore out and Kamp subbed him but in my mind, from what I saw, Kamp just wanted the fight on the feet. He never really exploded into Daley or put his body weight on him when he had the single. As experienced a striker as he is, he knew when Semtex was gonna throw, and he could have timed him and taken him down with ease. He chose not to. You guys clearly watched a different fight than me.
by Crowls on Sep 20, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just rewatched it. Kampman was definitely in trouble but also definitely still intellegently defending. He was covering up and less than one second after the last punch, he was dancing again. Like I said, chances are it wouldn’t have changed the outcome, but the stoppage was a couple of shots premature.
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kampmann can’t escape Daley’s dangerous and fast left hooks. That’s what he ate all night long…
by The Negation on Sep 20, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“We’d all love 5 round back and forth fights”
Speak for yourself dude! I love to see fighters finish, the quicker the better!! This means more Fights (Prelims.
by derreckla on Sep 20, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i meant to mention that before. This was the first ppv i’ve bought in a while(bought the non HD by accident= retard), but was happy to see decisive victories and also happy that we saw 11 out of 13 fights including the 4 Spike showed. And one of the prelims they showed after the main event was shown earlier on spike. That must mean the Matyushenko fight and whatever the other one was that we didn’t see were fairly boring. I felt I got my money’s worth, but in all honestly derreckla I prob won’t remember any of these fights 6 months from now. No great battles and no real images that stick in my mind. Tonight is a great example of why Dana needs to make an HBO deal or this network deal he is talking about lately. As a serious fan I feel satisfied having paid for the event but I don’t really take much away from this event except more faith in Dos Santos as a legit HW threat. None of the other fights really convinced me of anything.
by Crowls on Sep 20, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CroCop has lost speed… retire or drop to 205lbs, he looks very small at hvy’s.
by DAVE A on Sep 20, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cro cop was afaird to engage.. its a sad day very disappointed..
by maniac on Sep 20, 2009 12:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CroCop wasn’t being timid, he was showing his classic patience. He always fights that way against bigger guys or guys with great KO power. He just measures and circles and waits for his moment.
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then I guess he was a little too patient, because that moment never came.
by naturalshadow on Sep 20, 2009 4:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW!!!!! Daley and Belfort looked amazing. Good quick sharp hands!!
As for Cro Cop..I think its time to call it. He looked pretty good in the 1rst round but suddenly the 2nd round he seemed to look intimidated and gun shy. He seemed so lost and confused that I started feeling sorry for him.
Cro-Cop you will always be a legend but I think its time to hang up the gloves.
by Skelow on Sep 20, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Daley has far better and cleaner hands but i don’t think he can make up the size, reach and power difference. AJ rd 2 KO.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 20, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be an amazing fight…i think that would be some of the best boxing you could see from 2 guys! But the size difference is huge AJ is 6’2" with a 78" reach and Daley is a tiny 5’9" with a 74" reach. That is just to much size to give with a guy as explosize as Rumble!
by Da Monkey on Sep 20, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
id say if mir looses to kongo then we will see a cro cop/mir fight, and i would welcome it even after his performance tonight! vitor looked bad at weigh ins, guess that dosent mean jack shit to that man, serious power!
by TRUTH on Sep 20, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
F#ck Mir vs Kongo, terrible fight I hope it never happens Just like I called earlier that fight will end via Mir Sinking in a Paper bag because Kongo cannot out grapple a grocery store paper sack let alone a BJJ black belt! And I hate Mir, so don’t try this nut hugging bologna!
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 20, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kongo is gonna smash on Mir. That’s right! He can’t wrestle for sh!t so he’s gonna get bombed on until he quits, which is about the second or third solid shot he takes.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 20, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember that Kongo doesn’t have 1 punch KO power, rather he knocks out due to combos and Mir knows enough to get out of there and as we saw when Kongo fought Cain, he is not the most intelligent fighter in the world. He tried out wrestling Cain, for frick sake he might try to pull guard on Mir lol. I really don’t see Kongo winning this fight unless Mir trys to boost his ego and stand with Kongo.
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 20, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kongo is a retard. He’ll knock Mir down, then go to the ground with him, where Mir will end up going home with a trophy in the form of a large black arm.
by PW on Sep 20, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanna see swick vs daley and kos vs hughes but there still is no clear leader for gsps belt maybe franklin vs griifin makes sense now or franklin vs bones jones
by Pete on Sep 20, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Franklin vs. the winner of Tito/Coleman!!!
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Notice how everyone is calling out an over the hill Matt Hughes, no one was doing that two years ago except GSP.
by derreckla on Sep 20, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because 1) Hughes was a bigger threat 2 years ago. and 2) They had not yet realized how pointless it was to challenge GSP for the title.
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
with 5 ko/tko’s on the card? all 5 fights finished? your expecting too much
by JRE on Sep 20, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was one of the best ufcs of all time
by shamo84 on Sep 20, 2009 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the worst Crocop i have ever seen he probably hugged and pushed more in this fight then his whole career, i still cant understand wtf was going on in his head.
I SAID DALEY TKO/KO and guess what happened, Hitmans standup really is overrated like hell then again hes in the ufc so what can you honestly expect. IF Daley can get some of that Ice-Man sprawling skill he can become a force at 170 otherwise any real good JJ/Wrestler is going to take him out.
Vitor baby how the hell did anyone honestly put money on Franklin the guy only beat Wanderlei because Wanderlei is not the same fighter he used to be not to mention came in looking like he had just fought 3 whole rounds..
by Khaos_Warrior on Sep 20, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he looked like the same lethargic crocop i’ve seen vs kongo, alistair, and mufasa al turd
by dropnskirtz on Sep 20, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Khaos – The vitor thing’s like when everyone was saying Forrest is gonna use his weight and leg kicks to beat A Silva. I jsut don’t know where people come up with this stuff.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 20, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree khaos i was thinking the same thing, i just saw no way franklin was going to beat vitor, and the franklin-wandy fight was my measuring stick as to how this fight would play out
by Jared on Sep 20, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I told ‘ya Vitor and Dos Santos would win. Cro Cop is a dinosaur waiting to be extinct! Vitor’s hand speed would match Anderson Silva’s laser beams, plus both are BJJ blackbelts.
Spider VS The Phenom[drum roll please…]
by The Negation on Sep 20, 2009 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vitor = more power and speed than Anderson
Anderson = same knock out power due to precision and calculated striking and combos rather than power.
I think Anderson would win but Vitor would have a punchers chance and boy oh boy do I hope Vitor would take the mach but I see Anderson picking Vitor apart if the match is left on the feet even though he is probably faster.
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 20, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolute technique > Absolute Power. Anderson for sure IMO.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 20, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m afraid you’re right, dude…much as I would love to see Vitor upset the Spider.
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Anderson adds to his stand up that Vitor does not is punches to the leg, nobody punches a leg like Anderson! In all seriousness though Anderson has more tools in the stand up between his kicks, his elbows, and his ability to seemlessly control people in the Thai Clinch. Vitor is more of a boxer. Couture completely negated Belforts boxing in the clinch. Anderson clearly has one of the strongest clinches in the game. Anderson also has a huge reach advantage over him. Thought they are close in size Anderson boasts a near 78" reach vs. Belfort’s 73". That is 5" more inches of laser guided precision for Belfort to deal with.
by Da Monkey on Sep 20, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wanted to point this out, but Belfort had a Karate stance off and on did you guys see it?
by Sky on Sep 20, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, he deviated from his old stance that he was teaching on youtube. his chin wasn’t down at times[but I guess that’s how it is…]
by The Negation on Sep 20, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES!!!
He said he was working his Karate for this fight a la Machida. He said he would use it to setup his boxing which is exactly what he did.
It looks like he’s finally got a stable familly base and good camp. He’ll be a force to reckon with if he stays this course.
Should be fun to watch
by jtc2112 on Sep 20, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vitor looked amazing. We were at a bar watching and these guys behind us were saying “Look Vitor is afraid to exchange” and I looked back and said “No hes waiting to unleash the fury” 30 seconds later fights over.. So happy to see him back!
How about Rob Emerson getting leg kicked to death. His leg was PURPLE! That dood won’t walk right for a week…..
by Mikey on Sep 20, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You actually said “unleash the fury”? haha
by naturalshadow on Sep 20, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow natural shadow….sameee thing i thought when i read that!!
lmaooo
by Blunt N' Beer on Sep 20, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should turn ‘unleash the fury’ into a euphemism for something. Some ideas:
1. Taking the Sunday morning hangover doodoo — I had too much beer and tequila last night. I’m going to the bathroom to unleash the fury.
2. Porn watching — Gimme a few minutes alone with that Girls Gone Wild video. I need to unleash the fury.
3. An awesome PowerPoint presentation at work — the executive VPs weren’t sure how to cut costs without sacrificing quality, but I got out my laptop and laser pointer to unleash the fury.
by PW on Sep 20, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dudes franca fucked me up tonight. when i saw that hair in the ring, i swear to god i thought it was AUNT ESTHER from sanford and son. WTF? anyway, crocop fights like i would fight, flinching and running away from the slightest movement, he’s so done. franklin is a bore. twinkle toes got smashed. paul daley rocks. dos anjos was fantastic with those legs kicks. efran really rocks for winning over cole miller.
by WDC on Sep 20, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I forgot about Twinkle toes haha it was such a short fight, we all knew Kos would take him out, thats what happens when a newer/better version of you fights you haha.
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 20, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe he shoved the ref! Did Trigg think he had Kos just where he wanted him? The Kampmann stoppage was a bit too quick, but Trigg wasn’t doing anything intelligently, especially defending.
by naturalshadow on Sep 20, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vitor fricking cheated. Look again. He hit Franklin in the back of the head several times. Unless the refrs keep letin him get away with shit like that he’s gonna get stomped in UFC.
by vitor-cheated on Sep 20, 2009 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really? Watch it again he hit him ONCE in the back of the head and that was because his hand was already coming in with the punch. You wanted Franklin to win, we get that. But let’s step back from the word cheating… He didnt shoot him with a gun…
by Mikey on Sep 20, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly,
You can also clearly see that as that one punch was coming down he was starting to standup and walk away because it was over. He didn’t even put anything on that punch.
by jtc2112 on Sep 20, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed Mikey, it seems vitor-cheated is a sore loser, it wasn’t a calculated hit, he was as some put it about “unleashing the fury” and all but one fluke hit was legal and it is so sh@tty to get on a guys case for someone ducking there head and getting hit in the back of the head. I get it if a guy has rear mount and starts hitting a guy in the back of the head and that is weak as hell but a simple mishap is just sad to say someone cheated about.
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 20, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. i was rootin for Vitor. but he didnt win legitimately. even though i won money off of his win i’m still disappointed. besides it was more than one hit. put your damn glasses on and watch it again .
by vitor-cheated on Sep 20, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those shots were not directly to the back of the head and yes 1 might of been but you still can’t say the guy cheated. Franklin was folded over and Vitor tried to finish, it wasn’t like he was repeatedly kicking him in the nuts or something or doing north south strikes, his strikes were looping in an attempt to hit Rich in the side of the head or face, watch it again. His strikes were looping punched not direct shots trying to go for the back of the head, so not cheating in my book anyway you put it.
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 20, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple of the shots were “borderline” back of the head! But, to say he cheated is implying that he did it on purpose! It all happened in a machine gun flurry of fists! Who are you anyway??? I don’t recall seeing a “vitor-cheated” on here before! So, my guess is you’re a regular in disguise. Own up for your accusations!!!
by Dana's a CrossDresser on Sep 20, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great card, was watching 103 and PBF-JMM at the same time flicking through the channels. Great cards all round, all of the main card fights were sick, though I’m a bit annoyed that I missed the 2 prelims because ESPN advertised a Countdown show instead.
Vitor looked excellent, Franklin couldn’t get anywhere near him and was KO’d by a glancing shot. If Belfort can make the weight then he should be Andy’s next opponent, both are healthy so it would be a great fight that can happen soon.
Great win for Daley, though I don’t know why Martin kept it standing. Doing that against Semtex is ridiculous and with that strategy he deserves to lose. I’d like to see Daley-Swick, as well as Hughes-Kos after Josh got that big win, he’ll have the striking advantage over Hughes but he can’t overely on it, not everyone is as bad standing as Trigg.
Big win for JDS, he is the future of the HW division and has beaten 2 big names now. He deserves a big name opponent next, possibly the Cain-Ben winner for the next title shot as he won’t fight his trainer Big Nog. Great win anyway, he looks like the best HW striker in the UFC. As for Cro Cop he looks done, he’s too small, slow and tentative to do anything.
Surprise that Tyson actually finished a fight, though Hermes was so slow and out of shape that there was always a chance of it happening. Tyson is a good fighter but still has a lot to work on and finishing a fat Franca isn’t that impressive.
Big win for Money Mayweather, he looked a class above Marquez and was far too big and quick for him all fight. JMM did well to survive the 12 rounds, though Money has never been a KO artist. The post-fight antics with Mosely looked like a Rampage-Rashad UFC 96 rip-off, so both men clearly do watch the UFC afterall. I really don’t want to see that fight, we have already seen a one-sided fight now it’s time for the best 2 to go at it, boxing will look ridiculous if PBF-Pacman/Cotto doesn’t happen.
by David W-S on Sep 20, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hermes missed weight and was coming off of a serious knee injury. He’s known for being a slow pace fighter with no gas. That KO seems a lot more obvious in hindsight. Guess he’s gettin cut.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 20, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, franca f**cked me up tonight. when i saw that hair in the ring i swear i thought it was AUNT ESTHER from Sanford & Son, WTF? franklin is a bore. crocop fights like i would fight in the ufc, flinching and running like crazy, he’s so done. twinkle toes got his dreams smashed. dos anjos was fantastic. paul daley rocks and efran really rocks for knocking out cole miller. it was a good night.
by WDC on Sep 20, 2009 1:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dude ur retarded franklin was out by the time vitor hit the back of his head…im calling it now….AND NEW UFC MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION VITOR BELFORT
by hahaha hehehe on Sep 20, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
vitor dont stand a chance against silva. you all are way ahead of yourselves. besides i dont think vitor will get a chance to cheat silva out of a victory.
by vitor-cheated on Sep 20, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honesty who expected mayweather to lose…pretty boy padding his record…mayb he does watch mma n got the idea from FEDOR??
by hahaha hehehe on Sep 20, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
vitor has wut it takes…just wait n see…but than again u clearly r blind thinkin vitor cheated…kids 2day dont kno jack bout mma…its annoying
by hahaha hehehe on Sep 20, 2009 1:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
na na na na,na na na na, hey hey hey, good bye…cro cop. It’s not a pushing contest. Cro security guard sucks
by capt doug on Sep 20, 2009 1:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well at least you’re not a gambling man( i hope). He hung in there pretty well and took a helluva beating. JDS just has too much speed, power, and range. I’m sure you wont misunderestimate him again.
Nice to see Merg didn’t ruin any fights tonight.
I hope you can start a crusade to make sure the consumer can have a prelim package as an option to our PPV orders.
by naturalist on Sep 20, 2009 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t see the prelims, but based on the PPV, even with the 5 big name fights all finishing, RICK STORY VS BRIAN FOSTER was hands down, FIGHT OF THE NIGHT.
These two guys went at it non-stop in one of the best fights of the year so far, and they need to be rewarded for it. If the UFC only gives FOTN bonus to big-name fights, these undercard guys will lose motivation to go for broke.
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 2:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you fools think any of the fights tonight were fixed? If the UFC fixed any of tonights fights then they would of been 2/3 rounds minimum and entertaining. If you’ve ever seen a fight in real life that’s how it goes sometimes. It’s often not very entertaining.
BTW: Crocop does suck
by kibbled_bits on Sep 20, 2009 2:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW i knew cro cop was gonna get beat as i been saying his movement is the cage is horrible and his best days are behind him either way…. I must say I didnt see BElfot beating Franklin.. Vitor looks good …i dont think he shud be traing with tompkins a whole lot though
by zack on Sep 20, 2009 2:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cro Cop will never admit he’s finished. This guy look horrible in the fight. Took another excuses to end the fight because he didn’t want to get tko’ed or possibly ko’ed which looked like it was coming soon.
by gunnerjoe on Sep 20, 2009 2:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think CroCop ought to be the one fighting Brandon Vera and the Spider should step in against Captain America. Those would both be much more exciting fightst than Couture/Vera.
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 2:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This card was awesome…and it’s always the ones the “average fan” doesn’t want to see (“Is Liddell fighting?”)
Poor Martin K. I feel worse for him than anyone, and that’s saying a lot since CroCop just got retired and Franklin’s one of my favorite fighters. Getting an opponent switched and then getting KO’d on your feet AGAIN (remember that’s what sent his ass to WW in the first place thanks to big Nate)…hopefully he gets back to his winning ways. Oh yeah, and Cole Miller got thrown down like a rag doll and then beat like a red-headed step child. Wow.
by Dan on Sep 20, 2009 3:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Vitor cheated. You must be watching on a 19" Zentith cause the only one that hit the back of the head was the very last punch when Rich was already done. Maybe you should give Vitor some props after you watch it again with your head out of your ass.
by naturalist on Sep 20, 2009 4:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just seen the fight. You can definitly see the influence that Lyoto has had with training with Vitor. Vitor is such an explosive fighter and he timed his explosion against Franklin with finesse. Soon he will be champion.
by markstraining.com on Sep 20, 2009 5:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The PHENOM is back . already inline for a title shot. Harsh on hendo and nate the great. both had devastating knockout wins in there last matches. harsh if he skips ahead of them with one win.
Once somebody takes silva to the cleaners i dont care.
PHENOM looked good doh.
Cro cop sucked as usual. he has to face facts. he just cant fight in the ufc. he looked terrible again. all he did was hold and push dos santos. nobody is scared of him anymore.
Josh kosheck had a good win iswell.
by Stonecold on Sep 20, 2009 7:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew Daley would TKO Kampmann just like Marquardt did, Kampmann is very overrated. The stoppage was too early though.
And i think they coulda let Trigg get a few more seconds.
Cro Crap looked extremely pathetic.
Vitor fight was strange and anticlimatic, i didnt even see the punch that dropped Rich and then it was all over.
There wasnt a clear KO the whole knight which kinda sucked.
I wanted Franklin to win caus i knew this Vitor vs Anderson bs was gonna start if Vitor won.. cmon let him have more than 1 fight before a gdamn titleshot?
Are people forgetting about Hendo and Marquardt?
by Lester The Pimp on Sep 20, 2009 8:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The issue with Hendo and Marquardt is that they both lost to Silva already. With Silva having only 3 fights left on his contract it would be nice if it were not spent on rematches…
by Da Monkey on Sep 20, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely agree that the Vitor/Franklin fight was anticlimatic. (Vitor grazed him as he was going for a takedown and that and the immediate glancing blow from the other side totally threw off Rich’s balance and left him nowhere to go but down on his hands, where his head was an easy undefended target. It was a legit TKO for sure, but it wasn’t a clean punch by Vitor that put Franklin in trouble so much as Franklin totally losing his footing on the way to the takedown. The fact that Franklin remembers none of this is testimony to Vitor’s quick and violent capitalization on Franklin’s error.)
But C’mon, no clear KO!?! Hermes Franca staring at the ceiling with his arms above his head wasn’t clear enough for you???
by shonuff on Sep 20, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, Franklin got punched in the back of the head about six times. Shit made Lesnar vs. Mir one look like Lesnar vs. Mir two.
by deadnik on Sep 20, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Daley stoppage I think was justified, he was crushing Kampmann, who was offering no defense for those huge bombs. Re-watched the Koscheck fight, the punch that first stuns Trigg looked to be near the back of the head. I don’t really like either fighter (Trigg is washed up and I ain’t no fan of the clown), but I thought that was a little questionable. Vitor looked good, I wonder who they will match him up with next?
by Belisarius on Sep 20, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t like the Kampmann stoppage. Daley definitely had him hurt, but I hate seeing fights stopped when the guy’s still on his feet. Bad strategy to keep the fight on the feet as long as Kampmann did though. His takedown attempts had nothing on them either. I’ve got to think Swick is the closest thing the WW division has to a #1 contender by default now after this. Even with the win, I don’t think Daley is in the title picture and needs another fight. Maybe fight Marcus Davis next.
Cro Cop hung in there longer than I thought he would. But Dos Santos is no joke. Really eager to see who Junior fights next. Velasquez?
Good stoppage of Trigg. I thought Kos would grind out a win, but he went for the finish. I hope Koscheck does get Hughes. I’d like to see that fight. I think it would say a lot over where both fighters stand in the WW division.
And I hope Belfort does get Anderson for the title. I was against Hendo vs. Marquardt because there wouldn’t have been any viable challengers for awhile, but Vitor’s win changes that a little. Now Dan and Nate can fight and take on the winner of Anderson/Vitor.
by Jase on Sep 20, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vitor looked good as far as his killer instincts. He timed Franklin pretty good. When I saw him closing in on Franklin I knew he was going in for the kill. But I don’t think he will take the crown away from A Silva. But it’s better to give him the fight now while he is riding high off the win.
If you give him 1-2 fights before A Silva he might just lose the edge. A Silva will just toy with him as usual though. But he does have the best chance right now because he has good hand speed. I just don’t see Nate or Dan posing a real threat to Silva. You need to have a combination of speed, instincts, technique, power (Lyoto) to beat the Spider.
Also Crocop is just too old for this now. I don’t think he is as hungry as he was when he was younger and the aging body does not help either. He needs to hang it up already. It was a good run.
by remedy on Sep 20, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thought the card sucked. What a waste of cash. Was there anyone who really thought Franklin would win. Cro Cop is done, the kos fight was weak…….franca sucks when he’s not on steroids…….
They need to get these fighers fighting with everyone they have.
by tallimeca on Sep 20, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I loved seed franca get ko’d, he looked like a freaking old lady in there with that hair, someone with hair like that deserves it.
by nathan on Sep 20, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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