Strikeforce: 'Fedor vs Rogers' booked for CBS on Nov. 7
by Press Release on Sep 17, 2009 3:57 PM EDT
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The CBS Television Network will return to the mixed martial arts (MMA) cage with STRIKEFORCE: FEDOR VS. ROGERS, to be broadcast Saturday, Nov. 7 (9:00 PM, live ET/delayed PT). SHOWTIME Sports® will produce the four-fight event with host Gus Johnson calling the action and MMA legend Frank Shamrock and Mauro Ranallo serving as color analysts.
[FYI: Location has not been confirmed yet -- only the date and live broadcast. Strikeforce will confirm the location shortly.]
In 2008, CBS aired the first live MMA fights on network television, with three successful events earning time period-winning ratings in all key young adult and young men demographics. CBS's most recent broadcast in October 2008 ranked as the night's highest-rated program on both broadcast and cable in adults 18-34 and men 18-34, topping all other sports programming in those demographics, including the Major League Baseball playoffs and college football.
On Nov. 7, the world's Number One-ranked MMA heavyweight fighter, Fedor Emelianenko of Russia, will face undefeated American Brett Rogers of Minnesota in the marquee match up. The fight marks the first bout for the highly coveted Emelianenko since his promotional company M-1 Global signed an agreement with STRIKEFORCE to co-promote major events.
"There's no question this is a sport that is fast becoming a force in popularity and as a business," said Kelly Kahl, Senior Executive Vice President, Prime Time, CBS Television. "We're excited to be the platform that will enable millions more to see the athlete regarded as the very best in his sport. The Number One heavyweight on the most-watched network has a very nice ring to it."
Simply referred to as "Fedor" by fans around the world, the 6-foot, 235-pound Russian is one of the most dominant fighters in the sport. He is a master of the Russian military combat system Sambo and boasts a record of 30 wins, one loss, no draws with 16 wins by submission, seven knockouts and seven decisions. The 28-year-old Rogers (10-0) is a massive physical specimen standing 6-feet, 5-inches tall and weighing 265 pounds. He possesses two of the heaviest hands in the sport of MMA, an attribute that has helped him knock out all 10 of his professional opponents.
"It is an honor to have the opportunity to bring the STRIKEFORCE brand to CBS," said Scott Coker, Founder and CEO of STRIKEFORCE. "We are looking forward to bringing MMA back to the network and to having the world's No. 1 heavyweight-Fedor-compete for the first time on live network television against one of America's most promising young, undefeated stars-Brett Rogers."
STRIKEFORCE has experienced significant growth since it launched its first MMA promotion on March 10, 2006. After signing a landmark deal to air live events on SHOWTIME® earlier this year, STRIKEFORCE earned the premium network its highest MMA rating ever on August 15 with Carano vs. Cyborg. Shortly before the live telecast, the main event principals-Gina Carano and Cris "Cyborg" Santos-were the most searched terms on Yahoo! and Google, while the fight was the most discussed subject on Twitter.
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Fedor free on NETWORK TV on the eve of my birthday! That’s freakin’ AWESOME! I don’t have cable so this is the first time I’ll get to see a bigger fight than Kimbo vs NoName in my own home and actually hear what the commentators are saying instead of the drunk guy sitting on the next stool. Happy Birthdy ME!
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Shonuff, you know that even if you don’t have cable you do have internet, right?(unless you post at work)You can watched all the events on the net, for free, if you want to and you can even put them on your tv screen.
by Alpha Male on Sep 17, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
ive only streamed a couple of ufc’s when im out of cash and I tried to do ufc 102 and all of the streams were being shut down it sucked i had to order it and missed the verra sosynski but saw the replay did anyone else have trouble with the stream? all of um were shut down first time this happened to me
by Nor Cal Mexican on Sep 17, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
streams that don’t get shut down are easy to find!
Alpha, I think Nate was getting dominated last night and really had no business even trying to stand with Melvin, I’ll take it one step further and say Melvin’s take downs were better than Nates. He tried acting hurt and baiting nate in and it back fired. Nate isn’t even 1/10 as impressive or talented as his brother!
I’m sooooo praying this fight is in San Jose!!
by kevin on Sep 17, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I’m not prod of me to give you the tricks but here we go… If you want to be sure to not be shut down during a PPV, you need to subscribe to a host that will give you a private link usually for free. Some make you pay 3 to 5 bucks but it’s for HD links. If you are broke or you can’t find a host, you can go on Justin.tv and you will find some there. Justin links get shut down during the PPV but not during the replay and not for fight nights either. So just wait after the event and you will find the replay for free, 5 min after the event. You can always download the event on a few place the day after. All other org than the UFC doesn’t get shut down… if it happen, just wait after the event and you will get them too. All the fights an prelims can be fond for free the next day on MMA-Core.com, also.
by Alpha Male on Sep 17, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly Alpha! UFC should be watched for free by all.. would be fun if they had like 100 ppv buys, lol..
by RoBerto on Sep 17, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Roberto, I used to look forward to your posts, always rational and well thought out, what happened lately? If events were free, they’d make no money hence have no money to pay fighters hence end up like elite. I understand some of you guys hate the UFC and others have no business sense, but anything I enjoy in life, comes at a price! I don’t know why more people can’t realize this!
by kevin on Sep 17, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If everybody steals the UFC fights then before long the UFC won’t even exist. Watching choppy streams that will inevitably be cut off on your computer is fucking gay. Get a few friends over and pony up a little dough each to watch the fights, you cheap sons of bitches.
;-)
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly alpha, the private links always work, you gotta get them early though!
by kevin on Sep 17, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, oops, I wasn’t trying to incite peoples of doing it. I just feel for the less fortunate that doesn’t have enough money for the cable or the PPV in these tough economic times. You guys are absolutely correct, live event need to be watched live (that you pay for) and on a big screen. Not on your computer.
by Alpha Male on Sep 17, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I know kevin, let me just say I look forward to your posts too. But this one was a joke from me (I am going to stop posting crap) I even thought about my boys Tito/Rampage/Huerta/Sanchez while i was writing, ofc us fans need to support the athletes the way they deserve… good for me, The UFC has a TV deal over here, so Swedish TV already paid for me. I just sit up ’til the middle of the night waiting for the fireworks to start
by RoBerto on Sep 17, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I do have to stream Strikeforce events, there’s no other possible way for me to watch it.. so i use sopcast, it works perfectly! trust me if PPV existed in Sweden I’d buy every single event..
by RoBerto on Sep 17, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks a ton, Alpha! I don’t even have basic cable, so PPV isn’t even an option, even if I had the money. I do non-profit work with refugee resettlement, so I work for peanuts and all my friends in town are brand-new immigrants who don’t speak English and think the WWE is real. They can’t afford cable or PPV either, so I watch the fights at the nearest sports bar, but it’s frustrating cause I have to show up 2 hrs early to have any chance of getting a table and I can’t hear anything over the crowd. I’ll go to the bar this Sat and then try the online replay when I get home to see what I missed and next time I’ll know where to go if I can’t get a seat at the bar. BIG TIME THANKS!
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, no way I would fork over any cash to watch this. But I’ll tune in to network TV for it. I also think I’ll slow down and stare at car accidents on my way from work today.
by PW on Sep 17, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it would be too smart of a move for UFC to counter program this one. Dana would have done it if the strikeforce card was going to be on Showtime. Since Spike is on cable and satellite. Where as Showtime is a premium channel people have to pay extra for. So Spike has more viewership than Showtime. But, CBS is free and has way more viewers than Spike. So if he does plan on counter programming don’t expect a decent card. Cause that is one time slot he would definitely lose to Strikeforce on CBS.
by Open24hrz on Sep 17, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll be watching for sure…can’t wait to see Fedor put to sleep on network television. It will be awesome – exactly what he deserves….
And when this happens, don’t automatically put Rogers at number 1 in the HW division. That belongs to Lesnar…for the time being.
by WADZ on Sep 17, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOOO fedrov. Free MMA cool.
This will be good for the UFC, as it will bring in more casual fans to the sport.
by JeremyJackscan on Sep 17, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome if Fedor loses his first fight in America on national TV.
How great would that be.
by JeremyJackscan on Sep 17, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have paid for it. Thanks for the free show SF!
by jay on Sep 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh puuulease. All you snivelling little assbags will be tuning in to watch the best HW in the world. Damn you guys are stoopid.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Will be LIVE on the East Coast and tape delayed for the west coast. Sure sounds like the venue will be on the East Coast.
I’ll begin praying that the Newark New Jersey rumors hold true, but those were for October…
by ViolentMike on Sep 17, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Putting this on CBS is a damned smart move by Coker.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah the only way they will be able to draw near the numbers the UFC puts on is to put it on for free
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
If you are a real MMA fan you would not miss this card! I think Rogers is going to get smoked, but I try to watch all MMA good or bad. It is all a part of the sport. I sat through the what seemed like 20 hour AA/Silvia fight I will gladly watch this card.
JJ is absolutely correct, putting this fight on CBS is a huge move for Strikeforce……. unless by the off chance that Rogers cashes in his punchers chance and KOs Fedor early(I know, I know, very unlikely) it would be the end of Strikeforce.
by ASR on Sep 17, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
get near ufc numbers puck? in a ppv no way on network tv they will crush those numbers.
by roy on Sep 17, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Coker announced during the press conference that Mousasi, Cyborg, Shields, and Mayhem will all appear on this card.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong Violent Mike, ALL STRIKEFORCE SHOWS are tape delayed on the west coast, just like TUF and fight nights are! The only thing we get live are PPV’s
by kevin on Sep 17, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If that’s true jj then this card is more important to me then 103. And wow am I gonna get slammed for that. Sorry huge mma fan. Not just UFC. Strikeforce does a better job production wise I think too.
Love the stats board after the fights. No reason UFC shouldn’t have that yet. But they can ditch the brutal computer graphic predictions on how so and so should win the fight.
Those are so bad. Just show a highlight of him doing an arm bar instead if that’s how he ‘should’ win.
by Daniel worby on Sep 17, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If that’s true jj then this card is more important to me then 103. And wow am I gonna get slammed for that. Sorry huge mma fan. Not just UFC. Strikeforce does a better job production wise I think too.
Love the stats board after the fights. No reason UFC shouldn’t have that yet. But they can ditch the brutal computer graphic predictions on how so and so should win the fight.
Those are so bad. Just show a highlight of him doing an arm bar instead if that’s how he ‘should’ win.
by Daniel worby on Sep 17, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
UFC is actually doing like 30 million viewers every PPV atleast, with all the tv deals they have around the world..
by RoBerto on Sep 17, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeez guys, they can’t put all their stars on one card. I was pretty stoked to hear that another world class fighter (Mousasi) would be on this event as well.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Cung Le has finally relinquished the Strikeforce MW strap, and Mayhem and Shields will be fighting for it on this card. Plus Mousasi will defend his title and Cyborg will beat up some poor chick. Looking pretty awesome so far, with the exception of the chick fight.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally for Le… do you know the opponents for Mayhem, Shields, Mouss?
Kev, what’s going on with Nick? Is he gonna be penalize for the skipping test?
by Alpha Male on Sep 17, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
no alpha, he would’ve been penalized for failing test, but not taking it means he didn’t apply for a license which means no penalty, thats why he skipped it!
by kevin on Sep 17, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So you pass the test and then you apply for a licence? I thought that you apply, then you pass the test, then they give you your licence.
by Alpha Male on Sep 17, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
nope, you don’t get licensed until after the test, it’s considered part of the medicals. The problem I’m having (along with lots of others) is the “randomness” of the tests by the CSAC. Barnett, Diaz and Sherk all have their names drawn… doesn’t seem so random does it?
by kevin on Sep 17, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i was wondering what counter-programing dana and co. will have as well…should be a good night of mma fights though!!
by ethan on Sep 17, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
HANG HIM!
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
/Monty_Python_On
“How do you know he’s a witch?”
“He turned me into a newt!”
/Monty_Python_Off
by Dakatak on Sep 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to say that I’ll boycott it, but Fedor for free….I’m down.
by Dave O on Sep 17, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions
yeah..well what can ya do..free mma fights are hard not to watch..so unless the UFC pulled something magical outta their ass..
by sarah on Sep 17, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t be surprised if the UFC doesn’t counter with some free programming of its own.
by Fred on Sep 17, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It will probally put UFC 104 on Spike as a counter program but anyone with a recorder can tape one and watch one and 9 out of 10 peaple with out recorders will watch the live event over the recorded event. With all the PPV UFC puts on Strikeforce can’t really compete there but on network TV they should do very well as far as ratings go.
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Noone cares what the UFC counters with.
Best fighter in the world on CBS for free = Epic ratings.
Who doesn’t think I’m right = Douchebag.
by Skope on Sep 17, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Free is good look at TUF it had 4.1 million viewers last night on CBS they should almost double that you would think. No complaints on me for a free event by any organization.
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Skope, CBS got Anderson Silva to fight!?!?! because (and this is coming from someone who has been a Fedor nut hugger for a long time) Fedor cannot be considered the best in the world anymore. He might be the best but he hasn’t beat the best nor will he in Strikeforce, I have to agree with Dana on this one that Fedor might be the greatest ever and still might have the skills to still be the best but he has no proving ground for like 3 more fights I believe and maybe the UFC will get another crack at him.
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 17, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
<~~~I must be a douchebag, along with a bunch of other people….Fedor can be the best when he starts fighting real fighters, Again!
by Da Monkey on Sep 18, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
how can anyone be disapointed with this? it’s f’in free
by katch-22 on Sep 17, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions
People are still disappointed with Fedor’s decision.
by BNF on Sep 17, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of peaple will be hoping Fedor loses but will watch because it’s free.
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job Fedor you hack!! Beat up on a guy who would be lucky to crack the top 10 in the UFC. You are a joke. That being said, I’ll be watching this on CBS
by thetuf75 on Sep 17, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
in the ufc? he is already ranked top 10 in whole not just the ufc.
by roy on Sep 17, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor is going to lose. I have a feeling he is going down in this one.
by enzo-enormous on Sep 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
someday it is going to happen,probally not in this one.
by roy on Sep 17, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Its only gonna take one big shot from that giant ass man. He could do it for real. If he can eat one and land a big one at the same time, it could be a very quick match. Dude is massive powerful
by enzo-enormous on Sep 17, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Tuf….it stands to reason that being top 10 in the entire world would by default make you top 10 if you were in the UFC. Oh my gosh there are some bright one’s on here.
by Diceman on Sep 17, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Good one Dice, I can’t believe that Grim gets no love compared with Carwin, Cain and JDS, all 4 of them are excellent prospects and all 4 have only faced and beaten one top 10 opponent, so I don’t understand how you can rave about one then dismiss another. They are all relatively unproven and could come unstuck in their next fight or go on to greatness. If anyone should be praised it’s Grim because he’s beaten the best opponent in AA and did so quicker and more impressively than Fedor. I think that this is a great fight and Grim is Fedor’s most worthy opponent in Strikeforce, as Werdum was poor in the UFC and still has limited striking while Overreem never fights in the US.
by David W-S on Sep 17, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t wait to see the counter programming alert!
by Shadyone33 on Sep 17, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
yea, I’m curious on that one too.. They’re going to have to go free on Spike but UFN or PPV replay?? hmm…. Lesnar PPV replay more than likely.
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL; DW, OVER HERE, DW!! UFN NOV: HUGHES VS SWICK counter programming. May as well get what you can out of the old warhorse; Hughes/Swick free on spike would definatley put a dent in their viewership.
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The Lesnar PPV is happening two weeks after this event, so a replay of that will be difficult. Swick/Hughes, Hendo/Marquardt, and Anderson vs someone at 205 are all possibilities.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Great all fights that I would LOVE to see. Thanks JJ.
by Alpha Male on Sep 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Dudes, check out this insane lineup for combat sports fans in November. Unprecedented. And this is NOT including the imminent counter-programming efforts by the UFC on November 7. Thanks Strikeforce, for making this month even more awesome.
Nov 7 – Strikeforce: Fedor vs Rogers (CBS)
Nov 14 – UFC 105 (free TV, possibly early)
NOV 14 – Pacquiao vs Cotto (PPV)
Nov 18 – WEC 44: Brown vs Aldo (free TV)
Nov 21 – UFC 106 (PPV)
Um, Wow. That is pretty crazy for a 15-day window.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep bro, there is no other words to describe it… it’s gonna be awesome!!
by Alpha Male on Sep 17, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt about it JJ, unless you are a Direct TV customer, then no WEC. :-[
by BNF on Sep 17, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
We got UFC 104 too, 2 weeks earlier than Nov 7, so we’ll have a lots of fights from Oct 24 to Nov 21.
by Alpha Male on Sep 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The only card that I’m paying for just so happens to be the weakest, even the WEC card looks better on paper than 105. Hopefully Randy will save the show and the British fighters won’t be a waste of space. To be honest, if the UFC puts Andy on free TV the week before 105 just to ruin this card I’ll be peeved, as it will prove that they care more about making SF look silly than their UK fanbase. I’m still unimpressed with Dana’s comments on local fighters at the 103 press conference, he seems more than happy to give us half-arsed cards with mediocre local fighters instead of top talent.
by David W-S on Sep 17, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought I heard somewhere that they had a UFN card hiding somewhere specifically to counter this. Hard to counter CBS though…
by BNF on Sep 17, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, if I had to guess it would be Lesnar replay. It would be pretty hard to book fighters and an arena in this short amount of time.
by doubled on Sep 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
What Lesnar replay? They already replayed UFC 100, and Lesnar/Carwin is TWO WEEKS AFTER this event. What’s wrong with you guys’ reading comprehension today?
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything it will most likely be UFC 104.
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m saying replay UFC 100 again, or even Lesnar vs Herring or Couture; no one’s saying air a replay of an event that hasn’t happened, the point is Lesnar sells, he draws an audience, people would tune in regardless of wether they’ve already seen it or not; just my opinion.
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is they will counter with a live event, but the fact that this fight is on CBS might make them change their minds. Even the name-brand recognition of the UFC will be hard-pressed to beat CBS numbers with a Spike show.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
they could easily switch tuf from wed to sat for that 1 night. tuf which just pulled in 4.1 million on BASIC CABLE. a new episode of tuf could really put a dent in SF and fedor’s debut. casual fans will be the ones that make up most of the ratings, and it’s already been proven that the casual fans are much more familiar with kimbo and the ufc, than with fedor and SF. think-4.1 million, spiketv’s highest rated show EVER, PERIOD.
by j.b. on Sep 17, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You say that as if Spike has ever had a show that did good ratings that wasn’t UFC related. Without the UFC, Spike would have folded long ago.
This is a network that’s other programming consists of police chases, animal attacks, and guys pouring beer up their buttholes to get drunk faster.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ-sounds like you watch alot of spike, you know so much about it. a new episode of TUF along with an hour countdown for lesnar/carwin will mop the floor with fedor and SF on cbs. nobody knows who fedor is, that is just a fact, nothing to do with the mans abilty to fight. the vast majority of casual fans think of mma and the ufc as one. and fedor (along with scumbag millen and finkie) will put SF out of business within the year. just like they did bodog and affliction. do you really think affliction folded just b/c barnett got popped? hell no! ticket sales were abysmal as were ppv buys. affliction wanted out after the 1rst event, but todd beard fckd that up(beard being in the d-bag HOF, along with the shaws, gary and skala, jeremy lappen, calvin ayre, gary"jerry" millen and good ole finkie) SF is getting the same shitty deal that elitexc got with cbs, they don’t have to spend any money, but they also wont see a cent of the profits, in hopes they can pull off a ppv. not gonna happen.the UFC is the major leagues of mma baby! dont hate, appreciate!:)
by j.b. on Sep 18, 2009 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Once again someone has managed to completely miss the point. The only shows on Spike that get good ratings are UFC shows. So raving about how TUF was the most-watched show on Spike EVER, like that’s a big deal is pretty pointless.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 18, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The only live event they can counter with that will beat Fedor is if the UFC gets a deal with another free network like ABC or FOX and headlines with
RANDY COUTURE VS ANDERSON SILVA!
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
whats it called the “ducker”?!!
I really couldnt give a toss about him anymore
by mo on Sep 17, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
WTF? how does Strikeforce get a network deal and the UFC still cant get a network deal done? WTF IS GOING ON !!!!
by David Lucas on Sep 17, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
The UFC isn’t willing to settle for a deal that will compromise their PPV numbers. They want a four-event deal per year, and they want to get paid accordingly, because they plan on putting PPV-quality events on free TV. Events that they would be making huge PPV dollars off otherwise.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess, and it’s just that, is that Strikeforce needs the exposure and, as such, is willing to accept terms as dictated by CBS.
Whereas the UFC can afford to be more stringent in negociating becuase they have more of an upper hand in the deal.
by Dakatak on Sep 17, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Cause Strikeforce gave up alot of power in the deal. I read that Showtime can pick and choose what matches they want. CBS will probably own a sh*t load of stock by the time their deal ends. The UFC is not willing to give up any power to any network. They dont need to, their are doing fine with out a deal.
by JV on Sep 17, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet! good news! Im kind getting sick of everyone bitching about Fedors decision, there are a few good fights in strikeforce and anytime you can see a legend like Fedor fight for free its a good deal. That being said I do really hope Fedor will go to the ufc after this contract is up.
by DL92 on Sep 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
i don’t think the ufc will counter program~
remember, dana’s beef is with showtime not strikeforce..
lol~ 10bucks says on nov 7 there will be a free ufc on spike.
by stinky~fingers on Sep 17, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
There better be.. DW better step up the stomping here and put the Zuffa shoe in SF’s @ss already.
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it really sucks how Strikeforce is giving us all these high-quality free shows, and making the UFC pick up their game as well to counter them. Those bastards.
rolls eyes
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed JJ, I been rolling my eyes everytime a Fedor thread gets posted too
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, you act like me hoping M1 goes bankrupt is something new here JJ, like you didn’t know I’d rather see all the best vs the best under one org vs cross promo yadda yadda etc etc..
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed OD, how dare websites post topics detailing a fight between the #1 HW in the world against a top 10 HW with big power. We need more Dana White threads and Tim Creduer blogs. Or a story about how Rampage ISN’T fighting again. Maybe a Frank Trigg interview. You know… stuff that’s relevant.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would you want that to happen? Maybe you should just sign your car, house, and wife over to Dana and get it over with now.
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You whiners need to stfu…if Fedor signed with the UFC you’d all be clinging to his nuts like they are your mom’s titties. He wouldn’t even have to fight anyone in the UFC yet and you’d all be behind him 100% if he just signed with them.
Fedor #1 + UFC HW’s 2nd class = they need to fight him…he does NOT need to fight them (not that he hasn’t beaten half of them already).
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
Whoa… if you’re still clinging to your mom’s titties… seek help..
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not saying quit breast feeding; just get off your mom’s titties..
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Not quite Intro. I’d respect him more no doubt but I’ll let you cling to his nuts because you obviously do based on your past posts.
by Wes on Sep 17, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you totally about what would happen if Fedor signed with the UFC.
I do not agree with you that the UFC HWs are second class. They do not need to fight him. The talent pool is heavier in the UFC than outside, therefore Fedor should want to fight the best competition to actually prove he is #1. I am still not sold that he is the best HW out there. I think he is incredible and probably is the best, but just not sold. Unfortunately, he did nothing to sell me on it by not signing with the UFC. He claims he just likes to fight and has nothing to prove. I come from the school of thought that if you are the best at some sort of competition you should want to prove it.
by ASR on Sep 17, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If the UFC’s HWs are second class then what does that say about Strikeforce? There is no way that the UFC would have offered a can like Paul Buentello to Fedor first, thankfully Paul knew that he’d get smashed and Coker was forced to give Fedor a proper opponent in Grim.
To be honest, the HW division in fighting period is awful, there isn’t any strength in depth in the division in MMA or boxing. In MMA there is Fedor then everyone else, the fact that Lesnar was able to come in and smash 3 good HWs and unify the UFC HW and interim HW titles after only 5 fights shows how poor the division is. Outside of the UFC it’s even worse, as other than Grim (and to a lesser extent Lashley) there are only UFC rejects (AA, Sylvia, Monson), roid heads (Barnett), probable roid heads (Overreem) and SHW freakshows (Choi, Sapp, Nortje).
In boxing, there is the Klitschko Bros and that’s it, the other champion Valuev is a boring 7ft freakshow who cheated old man Holyfield (who shouldn’t have even been licensed) out of the belt and a cocky Cockney CW with one win in the division (over a has been) who is now the top contender, it’s such a thin and boring division that it’s laughable.
My point is that HW fighting is at a very low point, so to criticise the UFC for their division is unfair as there isn’t a lot of competition in any HW division in combat sports. Other than monsters like Lesnar and legends like Fedor and Nog, there are very few elite HWs. Hopefully the likes of Cain, Carwin, Grim and JDS will prove themselves and become future stars and the TUF HW series will also bring in fresh faces (and Kimbo). At least the UFC have a lot of top prospects and big names for Fedor to fight and provide him with some sort of competition, SF has a champion that never fights for them, a UFC reject and Grim.
Fedor will always be a legend but I’m annoyed that he chose a clearly weaker division for the sake of M-1 and to me that was a big FU to his fans and fight fans in general.
by David W-S on Sep 17, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
how can fedor lose? he’s in STRIKEFARCE for god’s sake!!!
by ethan on Sep 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh no you didn’t!
Smart move. It was lose-lose going against a UFC card or possibly getting counterprogrammed. As long as Fedor wins this will pay off big for the next fight.
by A Lynch on Sep 17, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
I’m just glad to see them announce a date when this fight is taking place. Kinda of odd they don’t have a venue or location to confirm by now but that should come down soon. I’ll go with Feyodor Yamelianenka, that guy is pretty good if ya don’t know him by now. I really think it’ll be like what he did to Gary Goodridge in Pride FC.
As for the UFC and their counter programming tactics…I could see them airing UFC 103 or 104 for now but maybe they’ll shoo in another UFN by then. Any insider stuff going around yet???
by Davey D on Sep 17, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions
I’m not sure if anyone else has ever considered this, but I honestly believe that Fedor’s decision to sign with Strikeforce was a smart one for his career. First of all, Fedor has never fought in a cage before. If you look at the transition of many of the top Pride Guys into the cage, for the most part, it has not been smooth. Crocop flopped dealing with the cage and introduction of elbows, Wanderlei hasn’t been performing too well, Shogun fought like crap in his initial 2 fights, Dennis Kang, though not one of the top guys, hasn’t been doing too well either. In addition, the scoring in the United States is much different from the scoring over in Pride and even in Rings. Fedor and his management team are aware of this and I bet that they are choosing to transition Fedor into cagefighting and the american scoring system through the weaker Strikeforce Organization. Hopefully, once he becomes acclimated to all of the variable of american style mma in Strikeforce, he will make the move over to the UFC. At this point he will not be sideswiped by the additional variables of fighting in a cage.
Fedor’s allure would be seriously damaged if he fought Brock Lesnar in the UFC and got smashed due to his lack of cage experience. Once he gets a few fights under his belt over in Stikeforce, hopefully he will make the move over to the UFC to reign as its heavyweight champion.
If I’m totally wrong and he is doing this for some other, incomprehensible reason, then “F” him.
by ScissorSweep on Sep 17, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
what about dan henderson,nog, anderson silva and rampage??? they all fought in a ring prior to their current stint with the ufc (noting dan henderson fought with the “old ufc” prior to fighting in Pride) carwin, cain, congo, herring, lesnar, dos santos, vera are all ufc creations. they are the best cuz the ufc says they are. Strikeforce allow their guys to fight outside the organization. By doing that we can see some of our dream match ups without them being “owned” by the ufc. I’m a big mma fan, and i love the fighters and the shows the ufc puts on. fighters over the org.
by delldog on Sep 17, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve thought about this as well. When Fedor first signed with Strikeforce I said (although it was hard) I thought he made a smart decision to join SF. I believe he wants to get used to fighting in the cage and didn’t join the UFC because of this and whatever other reason’s at hand (money, co-promotion, etc).
I see it like this…if Emelianenko keeps winning he’ll join the UFC. Within a year or two, maybe? If he loses, then sadly, he won’t lose in the UFC. Either way, his Legacy in his mind is that of someone who did it his way. The way he wanted, I can respect that.
There is still a part of me (and A LOT more other’s) that wants to see him compete in the UFC at some point in time. But, if it doesn’t happen then it just simply isn’t meant to be.
by Davey D on Sep 17, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention the fact that once he’s KO’d an undefeated Goliath on network TV, he will be a household name to millions who’ve never heard of Randy Couture or GSP or Anderson Silva. If he does decide to go with the UFC after cleaning out SF, he’ll be able to demand 10 times the price he was offered a few months ago when Joe the Plumber and Joe Sixpack had never heard of him.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
shonuff, you do realize that the fans who have never heard of Randy, Silva, etc, have not the slightest clue who fedor is, and therefore have little reason to watch. This fight will be a good win for fedor, and I like both fedor and Strikeforce, but he does not have the draw of a guy like Kimbo, this may not even get the ratings that Elite was pulling in. I hope its huge, because that is good for the sport as a whole, but Fedor is still a bit of an unkown to casual fans.
by James S on Sep 17, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course he is unknown NOW, James..but when everybody sees weeks worth of advertising leading up to the fight…advertising about the #1 rated HW fighter in history facing an undefeated guy 50 lbs bigger than him…people will know his name. CBS will make sure that by the time that fight airs everyone will know who he is. And when he KO’s Rogers on network TV, bet your bum it will be covered on CBS sports and everyone who watches the evening news will know his name. How many times did Chuck Liddell or Brock Lesnar make the CBS Evening News???
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
IF and I am only proposing “IF” Fedor gets caught by Grim’s Power and gets KO’d, What then???It is what I am hoping for, not because I want Strike Force to lose but because I want to see Rogers prevail and win. If Fedor gets ko’d on free tv, in front of all the millions you think are going to tune into this free event, does Strike Force and M1 crumble like a block of feta cheese?
by Da Monkey on Sep 18, 2009 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions
From the full press release:
“M-1 Global (www.m-1global.com) has been one of the leading Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) organizations in the world for over a decade. M-1 has promoted over 150 shows worldwide since 1995. Billed as the “World Cup of Mixed Martial Arts,” the M-1 Challenge is a full season of MMA events that showcases some of the best up and coming MMA fighters in the world. Broadcast to over 90 countries around the world…"
WHATT??!!
by BrockTagon on Sep 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
“WHATT??!!”
You notice how they keep using the word “world”. There is a world outside of the USA…just in case you haven’t heard.
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They also said “leading”. You are seriously defending a press release from M-1 stating that the M-1 Challenge is the "World Cup of Mixed Martial Arts,"?
Only you… I’m sure those “up and coming MMA fighters” get compared to the great soccer teams like Brazil and Italy all the time.
by BNF on Sep 17, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He said “World Cup of MMA”…not “World Cup of MMA just like the World Cup of Soccer”.
I suppose you think that the “World Cup Of Baseball” is also comparing themselves to the “World Cup of Soccer”…how about the “World Cup of Hockey”?…are they also comparing themselves with the “World Cup of Soccer”? Hell, there’s a “World Cup of Poker”…the nerve of those poker players thinking they are just like the “World Cup of Soccer”!!!!!
lmao…you guys make mountains out of mole hills over the dumbest stuff.
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, because whenever someone says World Cup (especially a Russian owned company) I immediatly think of baseball.
by BNF on Sep 18, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
?
You even know what it means?
Head to wikipedia….then get back to me.
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
what are you talking about? anyone named brocktagon would probally know nothing outside of the ufc. wikipedia? is that the source of your info i don’t use it bro.
by roy on Sep 17, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
M1 Global is garbage. “world cup of mma” LMAO. Broadcast to over 90 countries around the world. Doesn’t mean anybody watches it. The UFC told “the world cup of mma” to go FUCK themselves and take Fedor with them. In DW we trust.
by Adam T. on Sep 17, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
World cup of MMA that is priceless. M-1 are a joke and the only 2 quality fighters that they have don’t fight on their cards (exhibition matches don’t count).
by David W-S on Sep 17, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear Fedor & Rogers are going to be rolling around in jello afterwards…. egh
by kibbled_bits on Sep 17, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
One of them is going to BE jello afterwards!
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The number 1 doucher who’s dodging real fights to protect his near-perfect record even though wins over the likes of Brett Rogers and Fabricio Verdum mean nothing? Yes, he’ll certainly remind everyone of that.
by prokstar on Sep 17, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
bla bla bla…..
Maybe you need to be reminded that the UFC chump is 4-1.
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Jerry Millen why do you hide behind a name like inrovert?
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
By beating someone whos not top 5? He is just going to remind everyone that he can beat guys not in the UFC…. woopty doo…
by Mikey on Sep 17, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats why it has to be free TV not many believe Rogers could not beat Mir / Couture / Carwin / NOG/ junior / Kongo / Werdum / Gonzoga little alone Brock or Fedor most are 99.9% sure that Fedor is going to win this fight I know a lot of fans believe Fedor could beat anybody but if you bring a Brock vs fedor fight it would be around 60-70% for Fedor. A PPV could of really hurt Strikeforce so this was their only real option.
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep in mind PH, that eight months ago Arlovski was rated above all the guys you listed (except Nog) and was considered the best chance in the world for a Fedor upset. Rogers knocked Arlovski flat in seconds. Instead of Rogers getting any credit, everybody just wrote off Arlovski as weak, but that’s rewriting history.
Mikey, “Not Top 5” and “Not in the UFC” are two VERY different things. Just a few months ago 3 of the top 5 Heavyweights were not in the UFC, and about 6 of the top 10 were with AFFLICTION. Amazing how quickly a couple of KOs, a failed drug test, and some UFC hype can change the rankings.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that it’s BS the way that Grim is dismissed, he is undefeated and KO’d AA in 30s, I bet if he beats Fedor then people will still dismiss him and just spend the whole time laughing at Fedor. Grim deserves a lot more respect than he’s getting, don’t blame him because Fedor cares more about M-1 profits than MMA fans.
by David W-S on Sep 17, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
He has no ground game at least the undefeated Carwin has one.
by Beaver on Sep 18, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Take out the words “ALL” and “H8ERS” and I agree with your statement completely.
by O damn he got caught on Sep 17, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Didnt we try this already with CBS and Elite XC…Gus Johnson has no business making the calls; especially after calling Kimbo’s defeat at the hands of Seth P. the greatest upset in Mixed Martial Arts History!!
by Tim D. on Sep 17, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
It was only an upset in the eyes of the morons who bought the Kimbo hype.
And comparing Elite XC to Strikeforce is ridiculous. Elite made Kimbo their golden boy, and had no experience or credibility as a promotion.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 17, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I had Seth as the favourite going into that fight…didn’t you?
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Gus Johnson is a rather excitable sort and no doubt had more faith in “the toughest guy at the barbecue” than he did in the guy who had been practicing martial arts for more than 20 years. And I’m pretty sure the Scumbag Shaw and Scumbag Jr. told him to hype the hell out of their Meal Ticket, the same way they told Seth not to take down their Meal Ticket.
by PW on Sep 17, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely. I was stunned when it was announced that Seth was filling in for shamrock. Not that he is a world beater but he definitely is a legit mma fighter.
by Adam T. on Sep 17, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yesssss! It’s free and on ABC! This should be good for MMA fans because this should add to the overall popularity to MMA. Not a lot of people can afford expensive UFC fights including me. I usually watch UFC online after they already happen.
I’d rather pay to watch Fedor than pay for any UFC fight. Although UFC 100 was decent and Couture Noguiera was the best fight in a while.
by Chris on Sep 17, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
Glad someone here has enough brains to know who the best HW on Earth is and is excited to watch him fight, rather than over-hyped WWE wrestlers with a paper belt.
You’d better tune into CBS instead of ABC though…unless you want to see another over-hyped UFC fighter dance in spandex.
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry Millen aka “intovert” free is good but you know once the UFC gets on network TV they will shatter Strikeforces numbers hell TUF had 4.1 million viewers last night. speaking of a real paper champion when is Overeem going to fight? It’s great Strikeforce is putting on a free network card but remember there is no belt on the line only a over hyped Can trasher that would do the WWE proud.
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Forget Lesnar. I’d let Anderson or Machida fuck Fedor up.
by Adam T. on Sep 17, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
$45 a month for something that you love isn’t exactly expensive. You’d better ask your boss at Mcdonalds to give you a raise.
by Adam T. on Sep 17, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, start the insults on someone who likes something other than UFC…how typical.
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t work… I’m a college student. I wish I worked at McDonalds… than I could afford UFC fights LOL. Plus why would I pay to watch mediocre fights. I’ll pay 5 bucks plus some beers at Hooters to watch it Lesnar and Carwin.
by Chris on Sep 17, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Good for you. Just busting chops. I milked off of mom and dad when I was going to college but that was over ten years ago. You think the UFC has mediocre fights? You’d rather watch Fedor beat somebody in a minute or two than watch Machida/Shogun or Silva/Henderson? Not to mention all of the other fights that you see on a UFC card. Just look at the fight night last night Chris. The UFC has nothing but quality fights. The majority of Strikeforce fighters are guys who were either cut from the UFC or that the UFC has no interest in.
by Adam T. on Sep 17, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDCJaQFBaPQ&feature=player_embedded
Dana responds
Give me some props mania!!!!!
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions
props, Bro. Can you believe Dana was calling another company’s execs cocky and arrogant. He must not watch his own vlogs!
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet Dana White is shi++ing a brick right now knowing that the biggest audience in MMA history will be tuning in to see Fedor instead of UFC. He’d better get that Network deal quick or SF is gonna become a big problem for him.
In the money world, it doesn’t matter who has the best fighters, it matters who has the most famous fighters. UFC definitely has a better product, but that ain’t gonna count for much if their competitor is on Network TV. Chez Phillipe’s has a better burger than McDonalds, but McDonalds is on every street corner. Who do you think is making more money? And in fighting, where the money and the fame are, the top fighters will follow.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions
He said “I don’t care”…when mmamanis posts the vid i sent them you can watch it.
Although they won’t give me props for the link…that i can gaurantee you.
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He can say what he wants (he always does), it doesn’t change the fact that in a few weeks Fedor is gonna be more famous than anyone in UFC history (except maybe Brock’s WWE fame.) and then he’ll not only be the best fighter in the world, he’ll be lacking MMA’s most widely recognized name. Even if he gets a major network deal to compete, this is gonna make Strikeforce a legitimate competitor, which they haven’t been till now.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They haven’t even done a PPV. You think you might be jumping the gun a bit. Not that they couldn’t be in a couple of years, but not immediately after one network broadcast. And beating Brett Rogers doesn’t/shouldn’t make fedor any more famous than he already is.
by James S on Sep 17, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
James, you’re not seeing the big picture here. You’re seeing the “insiders” view of how loyal MMA fans will perceive this. We’re talking here about a NETWORK TV audience, not some fringe cable channel like Spike. We’re talking about commercials being seen by 100 million viewers on network primetime for weeks. These people won’t know that Brett Rogers KO’d nine cans before Andrei. They’ll just know that he’s massive and undefeated and nobody’s made it out of the 2nd round with him…and they’ll know this because they’ll hear it on the commercials, the same commercials that will tell them that Fedor has never been beaten and is the #1 Heavyweight of all time. That stuff gets people’s interest.
And PPV isn’t the only business model. Networks have been making millions upon millions from advertizing without ever putting E.R. or the Superbowl on PPV.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Where do my posts keep disappearing to?
James, you’re missing the big picture here. It doesn’t matter what hardcore MMA fans know about Rogers. The hundreds of millions of people who see commercials on CBS PRIMETIME in the weeks leading up to the fight won’t know that the 9 guys Rogers KOd before Andrei were unknowns. They’ll only know what CBS tells them, that he’s enormous, that he’s undefeated, and that no opponent has ever made it past the 2nd round with him. Ordinary people will find this fight very interesting. An undefeated KO “Goliath” against a “David” who’s the #1 Heavyweight in the world is a very easy sell regardless of Rogers’ ranking.
And PPV is not the only business model. Networks have been making millions upon millions of dollars on advertising for decades without ever putting ER or the Superbowl on PPV. SF doesn’t need PPV to make money.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And don’t confuse quality with fame, James. Who’s the most famous name in MMA? Sadly it’s Kimbo Slice. I’ve got lots of friends who don’t know who Chuck or Anderson are, but they know Kimbo and are watching TUF solely because of him. It’s hard for us MMA fans to grasp, but that’s the reality for the general public. Beating Rogers won’t affect Fedor’s ranking at all, but it will make him a household name. Fedor’s been #1 for a decade, but 2/3 of the people who buy UFC PPV since TUF-1 still don’t know who he is. That’s about to change, BIG TIME!
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
So do you think that Strikeforce is or ever will make more money than the UFC? LOL! Strikeforce is the new McDonalds of MMA. That’s phucking hilarious. CBS has strikeforce bent over for an ass pounding. Dana can do whatever he pleases and deal with whoever he pleases.
by Adam T. on Sep 17, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
SF doesn’t have enough fighters to put on more than four shows a year LOL UFC puts on way more free show than SF puts in all together. UFC has nothing to worry about SF can do well for themselves and thats cool but it will never be at the UFc level month in month out one or two show on free TV a year they might get some big numbers but once the UFc enters network TV those numbers will be shattered.
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Right Puck Head. Strikeforce does have some great fighters like Fedor, Gegard, Nick Diaz and Jake Shields but they need competition. This isn’t golf where you can watch Tiger shoot a 62 and be in awe of his play. Nobody wants to see BJ Penn fight the WEC lightweights all the time.
by Adam T. on Sep 17, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
you disproved your own point saying that chez phillipe has better burgers but makes less money than McDoalds is basically saying fedor is the better burger but UFC is everywhere hence more money.
by baby Eddie on Sep 17, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
no eddie, try to keep up here. The UFC is quality product. They are the primier in MMA. Strikeforce is greasy dripping french fries with lots of salt, but it’s going to be in every living room in America come Nov 7. Sadly, we UFC buffs are still a fringe element in the society at large. We’re the guys who’ll drive all the way across town and pay $50 for the gourmet burger while Joe Public sits at home in blissful ignorance scarfing down his free Strikeforce.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well at least i will watch this now.. lol SF had no other choice then to do this, They need some exposure and this was the only way to do it. But like someone else said, if anyone who has not watched mma before tunes in and see’s this, the only real people who benefit will be ufc.. Yeah strikeforce will be the one’s putting on the show, but ufc is the NFL or NHL.. pretty simple really, counter programming will just be fighting for the same die hard fans who all own some sort of recording device. so why not let SF be and gain viewers while SF uses there only good fighters in one event.. (I know they have more but they are lacking). As for the goofs who say fedor is king and bla bla bla, yeah i believe he was… but why do people think that he would sign with a company who wont deal with “his” own company.. kinda stupid to think he would do this. But other fighters opinions are changing of him, and competition is not what it was 3-5 years ago, guys are bigger and more skilled.. the guys he has beat to get his 36-1 record are also getting there asses handed to them at times. But really if you think about it its all in how a company uses the money they have, If the spend wrong and don’t make decent money then they will fold like others have, unfortunately everywhere M1 is it seems to follow. Im seeing a lot of elite XC in strikeforce and we all know its a matter of time…
by gecko on Sep 17, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
Dana’s got between now and November to get a network deal and get his superior product (and his message of Fedor’s irrellevance) into the living rooms of mainstream America, or he might be watching his masterpiece burn slowly to the ground over the next few years.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
“he might be watching his masterpiece burn slowly to the ground over the next few years.”
A little over dramatic, but his slice of pie will get smaller if he doesn’t get a deal done with someone.
Spike isn’t going to compete with CBS forever.
by introvert on Sep 17, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
TUf on spike had 4.1 million viewrs not to shabby and Strikeforce will actually help the UFC if you can believe it once the numbers are out for CBS the other networks will be pounding on Dana’s door to get MMA on there network.
by Puck Head on Sep 17, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well at least i will watch this now.. lol SF had no other choice then to do this, They need some exposure and this was the only way to do it. But like someone else said, if anyone who has not watched mma before tunes in and see’s this, the only real people who benefit will be ufc.. Yeah strikeforce will be the one’s putting on the show, but ufc is the NFL or NHL.. pretty simple really, counter programming will just be fighting for the same die hard fans who all own some sort of recording device. so why not let SF be and gain viewers while SF uses there only good fighters in one event.. (I know they have more but they are lacking). As for the goofs who say fedor is king and bla bla bla, yeah i believe he was… but why do people think that he would sign with a company who wont deal with “his” own company.. kinda stupid to think he would do this. But other fighters opinions are changing of him, and competition is not what it was 3-5 years ago, guys are bigger and more skilled.. the guys he has beat to get his 36-1 record are also getting there asses handed to them at times. But really if you think about it its all in how a company uses the money they have, If the spend wrong and don’t make decent money then they will fold like others have, unfortunately everywhere M1 is it seems to follow. Im seeing a lot of elite XC in strikeforce and we all know its a matter of time
by gecko071980 on Sep 17, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you’re right, PH. I guess given the choice between seeing Dana maintain his dictatorship or seeing MMA turn into a free-for-all like boxing, where fighters are each independent promotions and stars can hand-pick their opponents…I’ll take the UFC monopoly, where fighters may be treated unfairly sometimes, but the fans are guaranteed to see the best fighters face each other on a regular basis and where the Championship Title still means something.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally you said something intelligent shonuff.
by Adam T. on Sep 17, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Well at least i will watch this now.. lol SF had no other choice then to do this, They need some exposure and this was the only way to do it. But like someone else said, if anyone who has not watched mma before tunes in and see’s this, the only real people who benefit will be ufc.. Yeah strikeforce will be the one’s putting on the show, but ufc is the NFL or NHL.. pretty simple really, counter programming will just be fighting for the same die hard fans who all own some sort of recording device. so why not let SF be and gain viewers while SF uses there only good fighters in one event.. (I know they have more but they are lacking). As for the goofs who say fedor is king and bla bla bla, yeah i believe he was… but why do people think that he would sign with a company who wont deal with “his” own company.. kinda stupid to think he would do this. But other fighters opinions are changing of him, and competition is not what it was 3-5 years ago, guys are bigger and more skilled.. the guys he has beat to get his 36-1 record are also getting there asses handed to them at times. But really if you think about it its all in how a company uses the money they have, If the spend wrong and don’t make decent money then they will fold like others have, unfortunately everywhere M1 is it seems to follow. Im seeing a lot of elite XC in strikeforce and we all know its a matter of time….
by gecko071980 on Sep 17, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
WHATS THIS FOREVER??? its on cbs.. they will have 4 fights a year, damn some people are dumb.. Who cares if they are on cbs, they have a handful of fighters..
by gecko071980 on Sep 17, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
Dana doesn’t want a slice of the pie, he wants a monopoly. And he’s been getting closer to it every day since PRIDE…till now. His worst fear is that his fighers will have somewhere else to go where they won’t have to put up with his dictatorship. Now his fighters won’t even have to leave the U.S. to get major contracts and widespread exposure. This is bad news for the UFC. How it will affect the future MMA remains to be seen. It could promote healthy competition, or it could cause more fighters to have their own promoters like Fedor and cause MMA to fragment and spiral into the same mess that boxing is in. Only time will tell.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions
Well all I can say is I hope Fedor gets smashed on national TV. Damn that’d be amazing. Then Brett Rogers would seem so legit until his next opponent beat him. Please MMA gods, make it happen. That is all.
by Dman0887245 on Sep 17, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
I am a fighter advocate I would rather see the fighters have more control over who they fight, and for who. The UFC will never carry all of the worlds fighters, nor will they try because that would be stupid, but they have most of the best fighters in the world why not challenge other promotions best as a company in a joint venture. Everyone knows who the best promotion is, the UFC has nothing to lose by putting on a joint venture, maybe a UFC versus the world or some shit like that. It could be a one time a year extravaganza held in a different country every year with the other promotions best vying for a shot at their UFC counterpart. It would be fun, too bad it has no chance of ever happening but one can dream.
Oh yeah all you Fedor haters need a history lesson, and then maybe you ought to look at his recent success as well and then maybe get your heads out of your asses! Fedor is the HW king because of what he has accomplished and what he continues to accomplishg everytime he steps into the squared circle. You can UFC nuthug all you like but the fact of the matter is the truth is in the facts and facts are he has walked through some of the best HW fighters in the world including 4 former UFC HW champions.
by steve on Sep 17, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
Steve, the only way that would be “fun” and not a total waste of time, is if there were other organizations like PRIDE out there. There aren’t. Not even close!
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
First time I saw this picture I could see the caption above “Pie Eating Contest” or “Look Out Kobeyashi There Are Two New Gunslingers In Town!”
by Sofa-King-Toasty on Sep 17, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
If fedor loses, strikeforce and CBS loses their storyline and selling point. Cyborg and rogers are not exactly viewer friendly, not that Fedor is but he could be if they promote him right.
by baby Eddie on Sep 17, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions
he also beat both of your former ufc heavyweight champs…you guys are never satisfied who fedor destroys..
by nick on Sep 17, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions
Former Champs! There was a reason they were no longer in the UFC. Come to the Octagon and lets him see him scrap with the best at the top of their game!
by Sofa-King-Toasty on Sep 17, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Been there, done that!
For the past decade, most of the top Heavyweights were not in the UFC, they were in PRIDE or AFFLICTION and Fedor beat them all up. UFC never had more than 2 or 3 great HWs at one time. UFC has only been able to claim a truly respectable HW division for a year or two. They may monopolize all the other divisions (except LW) but they are the johnny-come-latelies at HW, which is why they’re doing this TUF to deepen their roster.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
time for fedro to get smashed by rogers. rogers by KO round 1.
and JeremyJackscan is a sad sad little man. whoops, I mean little girl. he can’t be a man. maybe a boy, but nowhere near a man.
by jj on Sep 17, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
hey nick those 2 former champs are former champs 4 a reason…n they are also not in the ufc 4 a reason… rogers n mercer help prove the point i just made
by hahaha hehehe on Sep 17, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
and intro hop off fedor 4 a bit…its kinda hard 4 him to train with u on his nuts
by hahaha hehehe on Sep 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor beat Nog and Cro Cop. That’s more competition than Brock has ever faced. How’s he better for beating Mir and Couture at 44?
by Bryan139 on Sep 17, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
bret rogers’s mohawk is the most retarded mohawk I have ever seen.
by donkeyballs on Sep 17, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
mir beat nog…n 44 year old randy beat gonzaga…who ko’d cro cop….so lesnar beat people who knocked out those 2 names u brought up 4 fedor…n did i mention he won by tko??yea good post bryan
by hahaha hehehe on Sep 17, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
Brock is a beast, no doubt. But if he were really in the same weight range as Randy and Nog, he wouldn’t stand a chance against those guys.
And Mir didn’t beat Noguiera, he beat a zombie suffering from the bubonic plague. REMATCH PLEASE!!!
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and Nick’s math was a little off. It wasn’t just 2 former champs, guys. Fedor has SEVEN wins over FIVE UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS. Silvia, Arlovski, Noguiera (twice), Coleman (twice), and Randleman…and he didn’t beat these guys when they were washed-up has-beens, he beat them when they were ranked in the top-5 worldwide. Arlovski may look sad after Rogers, but he was coming off 5 straight dominating wins when he fought Fedor. Tim was coming straight off a UFC title fight.
by shonuff on Sep 17, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
yea mayb brock would hav lost if he was smaller but fact is he isnt…n arlovski is washed up..n silvia is well RAY MERCER thats all i hav 2 say about him
by hahaha hehehe on Sep 17, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
hey sam before you call someone a “looser” learn to spekk the word..
“looser” is what ur mom is after a fuck her!
“loser” is what you are!
by kevin on Sep 18, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad I can watch this on TV for free. Monthly UFC PPVs are a major killing on the wallet.
by Daniel Contogiannis on Sep 23, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions
Fedor has the most unique gift of any present day heavyweight. Similar to Royce Grace in his prime and more current, Anderson Syilva, Fedor has maximized his physical talents more than any other heavyweight. The only thing Fedor needs to worry about is Father Time. But against a 28 yo Rogers, this won’t even be an issue. Prediction: Fedor in less than 3min of the first.
by Pullitsurprize on Oct 31, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
FEDOR IS OFFERING FREE LONG DISTANCE MINUTES. YOU HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT
by Roberto Solo on Nov 1, 2009 6:31 PM EST reply actions
hahahah! Fuck you fucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This shit is going down like 5 town down from me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i bought tickets already!!!!!!!!!!!!! OCTAGON IN SIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GOOD 2 LIVE IN THA MIDWEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Eddie Monster on Nov 7, 2009 3:17 AM EST reply actions
I am a Russian, so I do rooting for Fedor,
but, people…!
Brett is soo bad dude!!!!
Brett did kick Andrei Arlovski butt in just a 20 sec of the very first round, Brett did this, Brett did that…
well as to Silva-Werdumbut , if anybody wondering — my prediction were accurate about(just now announced) winner, yet, I would never thought it might be determined by judges decision.
So, let us embrace with our hearts and prey to our gods, and let the Gods will to triumph, indeed!
God bless Emelianenko! God bless Russia God bless humanity
Period!
by Sergei on Nov 7, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions
I am a Russian, so I do rooting for Fedor,
but, people…!
Brett is soo bad dude!!!!
Brett did kick Andrei Arlovski butt in just a 20 sec of the very first round, Brett did this, Brett did that…
well as to Silva-Werdumbut , if anybody wondering — my prediction were accurate about(just now announced) winner, yet, I would never thought it might be determined by judges decision.
So, let us embrace with our hearts and prey to our gods, and let the Gods will to triumph, indeed!
God bless Emelianenko! God bless Russia God bless humanity
Period!
****
Well, now I did read few of the other people comments(nonentical by definition), and I noyiced, many of you try to do prediction. As FORS FAN I do not see (even in nightmare) Brett winn, yet there is NO way he (Fedor) will win in the very first round
by Sergei on Nov 7, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions
The time isw 9:03 (in Chicago)
I am (I am still 100% Russian) wishing best to Fedor. Yet, my prediction — Fedor will need quite a bit of his luck at this time.
Ciao, comrads!
by Sergei on Nov 7, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions
FEDOR WINS! ROGERS LOSES!!!!
Rogers go suck on your middle finger and sit on your mom’s lap… cry baby! you got owned by a Russian Tank!… admit it and move on!… period!
by Hans Lecaros on Nov 7, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions
Fedor is the russian Tank! The King of Fight! Bye bye Rogers, cry in the corner.
by Marcelo on Nov 8, 2009 2:52 AM EST reply actions
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