Mirko Cro Cop no-shows at UFC 103 presser, Dana White takes it out on Rampage Jackson

dana, just shut your mouth and do your job.

by LLC on Sep 17, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions

… he is doing his job

by RJ on Sep 17, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions

umm he is. like planning an event some where he didn’t want to because Rampage begged him to be able to fight in his home town. Now he’s got too many big names fighting in the next 2 months that he’s kinda screwed for xmas/new years/super bowl if anyone sustains a cut or medical suspension! You think he wanted the LW championship match (which will be the best championship match possibly ever) in Memphis? No offense to Memphis, but come on!

by kevin on Sep 17, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Dear Mr White and Quentin Jackson,

Nobody wants to hear your BS. We don’t believe a word out of your mouths, and rightly so. Now shut up and fuck off or fuck off and shut up. Whatever’s quickest.

Sincerely,

JJ

by Jeremyjackson on Sep 18, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions

? Whats up with all the ridiculously dumb comments. I do like to hear Dana’s opinion because as long as it is not about Fedor its normally pretty straight. I don’t know that Jackson has been lying either although I agree its pretty ridiculous that he signed up for this movie post TUF. I guess all of you literally must still be in highschool and not understand the concept of a job. When you sign up for a job you don’t let your employer know your looking for a second job, thats like saying my heads not going to be in this. You also don’t do no call no shows or skip out on meetings. The UFC is a business and fighters need to prioritize their fights. I completely understand wanting to make some money and have a fall back but work with Dana and he’ll work with you. Don’t sign up to fight and then back out screwing the fans over. Essentially what Rampage is saying is I don’t care about Rashad nor do I care about fighting in my hometown, I only care about being rich.

by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 18, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions

Stupid comment, period

by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 18, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions

agreed… I think Dana has every right to take the road he is taking. Rampage has now bitten the hand that feeds; lets see how much he can get fed now from the UFC. It’s not like they are going to make A-Team 2, A-Team-3 and then a Mr.T movie staring Quinton.
Speaking of Quinton acting… did anyone see his scene in Midnight Meat Train? Lets just say he’s got a long way to go and a very low glass ceiling that I think he has already hit.

by Dumbdancing on Sep 18, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions

The point here isn’t if Dana is right or wrong on the rampage topic. The point is this was supposed to be about mirco not showing to the press conference & we didn’t even make it halfway thru the name of the thread before it was wrecked by this stupid rampage incident!!!

If that doesn’t say this is getting far too annoying and repetitive already, I dunno what does. Plus we have to endure it for months now! Saying our same arguements.

Thanks for clearing up why crocop wasn’t there Dana. Now I understand. Crystal clear. He isn’t there, because rampage is doing A Team

by Daniel worby on Sep 18, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions

Daniel, I’ve seen the press conference and Dana just made a joke about Cro Cop being the fighter who had no-showed the most press conferences then was asked once again about Rampage and the A-Team. The quote is a little misleading as he didn’t start talking about Cro Cop then suddenly change the subject and rant again about Rampage.

by David W-S on Sep 18, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks for the clarification David ws. I’m on my blackberry in bumfuck Saskatchewan. Couldn’t find any video of this conference. I’m glad that’s not the way it went.

But that still doesn’t excuse how tired I am, and will continue to be as this endless debate with rampage/Dana continues.

Ugh rampage I liked you so much! Why the humping of the reporter? Why the poor display of coaching thus far? Why the poor choice of hw selection? Why the cancellation of lyoto? Why the delay of Evans? Why the running down of innocent ppl? Why the being the biggest mouth piece in mma then being mad anytime some1 stands up for themselves?

Oh sorry was I rambling? Just fight rampage

by Daniel worby on Sep 18, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Keep up the good spirit Jeremy!
This is what i hate about Dana, him trying to throw his fighters under the bus and being the biggest Drama Queen ever when everything’s not going his way. Like he is the only one trying to get things done and make money.

by RoBerto on Sep 18, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s right…. Just fight rampage!!!
He’s actually starting to remind me of a bobble head!

by Dumbdancing on Sep 18, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s right just fight. For being fans of a MMA a lot of you really care about what people say. I care much more about what they do. Dana gives us some of the best fights in a short period of time ever and everyone is worried about what he says about Rampage a guy who by his actions shows he does not want to fight right now. Who cares. I said the same thing when all the Lesnar 100 crap was going one. “Terrible for the sport”, “Should not be in the UFC”…. news flash he is winning. I could not care less if he can speak english. Silva says mad, crazy smack all the time, is extremely disrespectful in his words and actions in the ring and yet everyone loves him because they cannot understand what he is saying. I just think he is awesome because of what he can do.

People they are fighters that is what the important thing is. Dana puts together fights who cares what else he says. If you people love the drama so much go watch some WWE.

by ASR on Sep 19, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

every time i read your comments you get more respekt from me. im sorry for calling you fat almost 6 months ago.

by an 8yr old boy on Sep 18, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions

i understand why dana would be pissed, but if there is no contract restriction for rampage than he can go do a movie. most of these fighters disappear after their fighting careers. i cannot blame rampage for trying to establish a career/job for his post fighting career

by tiko on Sep 18, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions

Dana, the face of the ufc, sums up this guy to a T, Quinton has a bad attitude and should be getting on a plane to Memphis but he he aint, he chose another team. He is foolish and I pity him when Dana matches him up against Lyoto and Anderson Silva. Now Dana seems to have a problem that no-one else can help him with, he needs to find someone he can hire to fight over New Year, Super Bowl etc. In a way Dana and us fans are paying for a crime we didn’t commit, but Dana’s no sucker he will come up with something.

by paniczoo on Sep 18, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions

rampage will be just fine no matter who dana matches him up with

by deuce 4 on Sep 18, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn’t say that. He has had a problem in the past with Brazilians who have great knees. Both Anderson and Lyoto are also much faster than Rampage, and have much better BJJ.

by naturalshadow on Sep 18, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions

It is not about him planning a career after. It is about loyalty and commitment. Dana and the UFC bent over backwards to have Rampage’s back on the whole energy drink Road Rage Rampage crisis. Also, when he agreed to do the show, he agreed to fight Rashad after the show in Memphis. The role to play in the bull shit who cares about the A-team anyway came after he had commited to do the show and fight Rashad. So under these circumstances, his movie career or as you put it, his future career needs to take a back seat. Do your job Rampage!! After that if you want to pull a Cung Le or a Roger Huerta and take some time off to do movies, fine, but do your fucking job first and be grateful you still have one!!!!

by getrawbc on Sep 18, 2009 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions

show me the article where Rampage begged dana to fight in his home town.. Memphis will do as much money as cinci or columbus. All i ever read was Rampage would think it would be awesome to fight in his home town.. Dana wanted Rampage in Memphis as a promotion.. Dana needs to shut his mouth.. people are so tired of hime being a baby.. Rampage has made him way more money than he has ever made rampage.. Maybe this was Rampages dream or his once in a lifetime shot.. Even if it is not a great movie.. He may make more money for this movie than what he makes in the UFC.. Dana doesnt know.. Big deal he takes a 3 month leave… That is what dana gets for screwing with some many other peoples lives and money over the years..The truth is, the fighters are becoming bigger than dana and it pisses him off..Dana White did not make Rampage. Rampage made rampage. His Charisma and fist made him.. Yes Dana stuck with him during his screw up.. But guess what.. It was because Rampage was a huge draw.. If he was a sorry fighter and didnt make dana tones of money then Dana would not had stood buy him.. Rampage stepped up and saved a crappy ppv and made dana millions when he fought Jardine.. Debt paid.
Another thing, Rampage came from the streets and from nothing..He has been fighting his whole life.. Maybe he wants something else… You would never here another promoter of any sport or organization act like dana.. If Dana would quit being so creedy and trying to suck every dime out of mma fans he would not have this problem..There is no need for 17 ppv a year anyways.. Give some free contender fights like you promised two years ago..Not no names or gatekeepers..I love the ufc but dana needs to shut up..

by lance on Sep 18, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions

well Lance, I think you’re wrong, did you read the Melvin Guillard thread this week? He thought he was going to be fired after winding up in jail and was very appreciative that Dana and the UFC stood by him and gave him another chance. He’s not exactly a huge draw! It’s been widely reported that Rampage wanted to fight in Memphis, use this thing called google and look it up! He ducked machida to fight Rashad, was put on the TUF as a coach even though he’s notoriously lazy and doesn’t like to train and has no coaching experience with the plan being he fight Rashad in Memphis. The fact that you guys can’t grasp this is funny to me!

by kevin on Sep 18, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Lance, Josh Neer also got arrested recently and was given another chance by the UFC, Chris Leben and Melvin Guillard have both been given countless chances by the UFC after making stupid mistakes despite all 3 not being draws. Rampage was treated very well by the UFC, they could have easily fired him but instead backed him and looked after him, so I can see why Zuffa feel let down by his recent behaviour.

by David W-S on Sep 18, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

great examples David. I’m old school and don’t have many friends, but if someone did me a solid like Dana did to Rampage, or if you happen to be a close friend of mine, I’m very loyal, not to mention if I had a chance to do anything in front of my hometown friends and family, I’d be there!

by kevin on Sep 18, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Rampage has made Dana millions so it was the least he could do.. Rampage is a huge draw, and Dana did what was best for the UFC make no mistake about it! it would have hurt them tremendously if they had a fighter going to jail or something

by RoBerto on Sep 18, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

you and John with Rampage Roberto, it’s laughable. Without the UFC where would Rampage be? Now flip it…the UFC would be the same place it is now without Rampage!
Josh Neer, Melvin Guillard both were arrested and put in jail, they are far from big stars, and the UFC stood by them.
I know for a fact that is an event was scheduled in Hawaii and BJ said he was going to do a movie instead, you’d be all over him! Difference is, BJ knows how to be a consummate professional, yes he cries sometimes, but is a loyal guy!

by kevin on Sep 18, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

the keyword in your argument is “IF” BJ wouldn’t get an oppurtunity like Rampage did, and he’s also rich as fock already, Rampage isn’t. He needs to do what was right for him and his family! this was obviously it. All his friends and family can come see him fight anytime anyways..

by RoBerto on Sep 18, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions

forget about the UFC doing the fighters a favor thing, cause they are only doing what they are supposed to do, these guys fight their a$$es off and deserve to be treated right and protected by the UFC at all times…
It makes the UFC look good, and the fighters appreciate it

by RoBerto on Sep 18, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Try to remember that most of what Dana White says or does is well calculated to achieve his ends. If it wasnt for his smarts most of you wouldnt be here commenting, or in fact, even be UFC fans at all. I agree that he’s a dick to his athletes and his refs. He keeps them in line and manageable according to UFC needs, not necessarily whats best for them. Dana built this empire, show some respect dumbass.

by illuuminuus on Sep 19, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions

F*ck rampage
WAR KEVIN

by Kevin. on Sep 17, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions

thanks buddy, now go back to ur real screen name. we need usernames mania!!!!!

by kevin on Sep 17, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions

truth kevin, we need a comment section that actually works and not this blog stuff, its not hard to set a forum based comment section, im tired of replyin to someones post, and it either not showing or it showing up like 25 comments below where it was supposed to go.

Ps rampage is a tool

by CoNr on Sep 18, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions

Great posts kevin and CoNr. Agreed.

by Adam T. on Sep 18, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions

Cant blame Dana. Rampage doesn’t owe his life to him, but he does owe his career to him. Who else would have flown to personally bail him out and have his back like Dana did when Rampage went ape shit it Orange County? No one, thats who.
Some gratitude there, Quinton.

by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Sep 17, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions

It would be one thing if dana didn't get him out of trouble.

by Bill Maher on Sep 17, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Yea no shit. Rampage is one of my favorite fighters but I like Dana White a lot more. Rampage lost a lot of respect from me & probably thousands of other people. He may like the paycheck from the movie but over time I think this is going to screw him a lot more then help him…

by Mikey on Sep 18, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree. Mostly because Rampage has zero chance of becoming a movie star. This role is perfect for him, but then what? How many times do you want to play “angry black tough guy #1” in a horror movie. I you are a fighter, you don’t pass up fights in the prime of your career. It’s not like we are gonna see Morgan Freeman and Al Pacino test out their stuff in the octagon anytime soon. Leave the acting to the actors.

by naturalshadow on Sep 18, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions

He can do more than just be Angry Black Tough Guy. He can also star in a hilarious madcap buddy-cop flick in which he plays a dangerous cop on the edge who plays by his own rules but gets teamed with a straight-laced white cop to bring down the largest gang in L.A.

by PW on Sep 18, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions

Hahaha. Good point!

by naturalshadow on Sep 18, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions

anyone who was making the money they were making off of Rampage would have flown out and done the same thing Dana did. It probably would not have been as highly publicized as Dana because most people are not like dana and go look at what i did. Look I helped one of my largest money makers.. If Rampage was not such a draw would dana had done that.. Plus he wanted to try a make the ufc look good not bad.. A former UFC champ goes crazy without any help from UFC .. Well that really makes the UFC look good. Plus Rampages fist and Charisma made Rampages career.. He is the one doing the talking and fighting..If he would have been a no name fighter would dana had went and helped.. Nope.. Dana was protecting his pockets… Rampage saved a horrible ppv by fighting Jardine and made Dana millions. His debt is paid.. Dana is just playing the pity card trying to turn fans incase Rampage decides to leave for good or fight somewhere else one day..

by lance on Sep 18, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions

don’t think for a second other people would do the same thing. Lets say you’re the top earner (salesman we’ll say) for a company, you think they would save your ass or fire you??? The NFL doesn’t save guys, they suspend them (Dante Stallworth), get a clue bro!

by kevin on Sep 18, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Spot on Kevin, Adrian Mutu a Romanian footballer was signed by Chelsea for £16 million and got sacked after testing positive for cocaine. Not only did he lose his job, Mutu now has to repay the transfer fee to Chelsea and has already lost his appeal against this ruling.

On the other hand, the UFC has backed several fighters that tested positive for drugs, both performance enhancing and recreational, including big names like Sherk and Bonnar and lesser names like Guillard, Leben and Irvin. They have also refused to sack fighters that broke the law including Rampage, Leben and Neer, despite them being within their rights to fire them. As much stick as the UFC and Dana get at times for how they treat their fighters, in this case they should be commended. Other sports teams and organisations are a lot more ruthless towards those who taint the name of the sport and the club.

by David W-S on Sep 18, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Kevin, David W-S

I see the points you guys are making….but the UFC is not the NFL or the Premier League. I’m sure the UFC caught some flack for Rampage’s deeds, but Guillard? Neer, Sherk, or Leben? The only people who know about their mistakes are hardcore fans on relatively obscure MMA websites. There is no write up in the paper, no mention on ESPN thirty times an hour, none of that. UFC has not reached that level.

by slapjaw ackrite on Sep 18, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions

really? because I saw “nate Diaz submits Melvin Guillard” on the bottom ticker on espn on wed. you’re right to an extent and I get your point, but I could use everyday examples too buddy

by kevin on Sep 18, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions

my guess is rampage’s team got crushed, including kimbo. Fighting and losing to Rashad too, that would be complete domination by Rashad and Rampage would be too embarrassed, so he rather avoid that and do a movie about a group of has-beens, or rather never-was’. This is turning out to look like Dana vs Tito, and its another LHW fighter who was a former champ lol.

by jaime on Sep 17, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions

I agree, I do not understand what the hell he was basing his picks on, but the good or bad we should get to see kimbo fight soon as you know they are all wanting to call him out.

by ASR on Sep 19, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

i said it once ill say it again, Dana has no one to balame but himself, don’t promote a fight if you don’t have a contract signed, on that, what happened to a mans word Rampage?
And what did happen to Mirko today anyway?

by davomaniac on Sep 18, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions

People thought that the UFC contracts were binding before this. Now a fighter will have to sign in blood.

by naturalshadow on Sep 18, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions

Is Rampage the new Tito?

by Craig on Sep 18, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions

No, Rampage is the new Mr.T. Try to keep up, Craig.

I don’t even think Tito is the new Tito.

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions

It’s still the old one.

by The Negation on Sep 18, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions

who cares number one about cro-craps his pants!
He has no, ) ground game, and goes straight forward in a weight division that he’s too small for. He’s nothing more than a kick boxer who kicks with only one telagraphed left head kick which will be followed by a few straight punches….one dimentional….
no personality i mean in the recent ufc countdown you’d think the ufc would show us so much cop , wouldn’t fans luv to see what he is realy like what he does even if it is really fing stupid?!?!?!

And rampage…who said white did anything for him….and page is the Ultimate fighter show?! have you not watched the 1st episode it was page page kimbo boring= and page and big freaking leaky head and big big cut and page and end of show . page is the show!
DANA knows it and his alpha-male gets in the way again i pet danas thingy is 3-5 inches. small man complex. dana actually has a man crush on his fav fighters look at himand chuck i mean chuck is as dumb as a pile o bricks but dana will give him a job at the ufc for life? what the heck is chuck gonna do accounting….LOL….

by iamdanawhite on Sep 18, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions

what a blabber-mouth Jim Carey is, was he a school teacher or something?!?!!!!

Vitor sounds like a dumb rock and sounds like his brain has been rocked hard many many times in a brazilian way and appears as if he just wants to lay in bed watching skinny guys sweating on the us open court in the rain.???

by iamdanawhite on Sep 18, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions

were did that come from lol ?

by boyer on Sep 18, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions

Ha! Finally, someone else who thinks Rich Franklin looks like Jim Carey (or at least used to, before the Spider relocated his nose.)

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions

finally? they’ve been calling him “ace” for years. you knoe, ace ventura?

by j.b. on Sep 19, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions

i say drop rampage. he’s letting the fame get to him. all i see him do is talk smack. this is the 3rd fight he’s turned down. he loves the limelight too much too risk losing it with a loss.

by Stryker on Sep 18, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions

technically, Rashad ducked Rampage first….and thats why Rampage fought Jardine, but now Rampage is doin g the movie where Dana claims Rampage ait making half as much as he would if he fough Rashad instead of doing the movie? I wonder if thats true, maybe it is and Rampage just wants the silver screen face time and hes banking on the movie bringing him more acting jobs??? who knows….

I was thinking, does anyhone remember after Rampage fought Forrest he said “I’m never taking 9 months off again!” lol so much for that

by Chadx23 on Sep 18, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions

As usual Stryker, you da man.

by Adam T. on Sep 18, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions

Let him go to Strikeforce where he can be a champion for years without having to actually fight.

by PW on Sep 18, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions

So who do you think has pissed Dana off the most this year? Fedor for not signing, Mirko when was heading back to Japan after poking fatty, or Mr. T-wannabe?

I actually think Rampage.

by Miketsi on Sep 18, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions

Yeah I don’t know how to feel about this. Rampage screwed this one up. So did Roger, he’s never going to be a huge movie star. But partly the UFC is too blame. If they got paid even close to the amount boxers get paid we would not be having this discussion. Rampage is all about the bling. He’s always said that. And he will got to where the money is. Also Dana should of got them to sign the fight deal. His fault. But still if Rampage gave him his word, then Dana has the right to be angry with him as a friend, but legally can’t say anything.

by Crivas on Sep 18, 2009 1:33 AM EDT reply actions

Common you guys. Stop hatin’ on the brother! If any of you had a chance to be in a big-time Hollywood movie, tell me you wouldn’t risk pissing off your boss and taking time off! Randy Couture has been trying to get into movies for 10 years and hasn’t had an offer anywhere near this big. The Mr.T role was tailor made for Rampage and it won’t wait till he’s ready to retire from MMA. This was a once-in-a-lifetime chance vs postponing a fight that he’s still gonna get anyway. You’d have done the same thing if Hollywood and Qui-Gon Jin came knocking on your door, you bunch o hypocrits!

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions

Yes, I would risk MY job. Now if I had Rampage’s job, things would be a lot different.

by naturalshadow on Sep 18, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions

These is all BS OK ,if he think that RAMPAGE don’t belong in the UFC just FIRED HIM but stop the cry me a river , YOU HAVE A MILLION MORE OF FIGHTERS JUST READY TO BATTLE, ANDERSON SILVA IS WAITING ,GIVE RASHAD TO HIM AND PROBLEM SOLVED BUT STOP THE BS…. he IS NOT TITO AND YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOWN IT.

by ALEX on Sep 18, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions

Fact is at the end of the day the UFC has brought more MMA action to or homes more than any other org in the world. Until SF or any one else has their 100th event then maybe we can talk about competition. Right now SF is Bob Sapp and UFC is Wandy.

by Beaver on Sep 18, 2009 2:01 AM EDT reply actions

um…didn’t Bob Sapp eat Wandy?

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by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Rampage should fight. He agreed to fight before any movie deal and sending his manager to tell Dana the news is shady. I hope the Evans fight is scratched and he has to fight Anderson in 2010. Everybody uses the movie excuse like he needs the money and is living off food stamps. I am not against him doing the movie but it is some BS that he pulled on Dana and the fans. Especially everybody in Memphis, TN. I hope Rampage has the balls to be there that night caz he will get booed. Also by him pretty much taking an entire year off from fighting (last fought in March and probably wont until Feb at least) he is going to get passed up by top contenders at 205( ex- Shogun vs Machida not Rampage vs Machida). I think after he KO Wanderlei he didnt give a damn anymore and that he felt like he did it all or likes pissing Dana off which will come back to bite him in the ass mark my words bitches.

by flossinbigbossin on Sep 18, 2009 2:05 AM EDT reply actions

dana said rampage isnt getting paid NEAR the paycheck for this movie he would be getting paid for the reality show and the fight with rashad together…

this dude aint christian bale playing batman…he aint making no 20 mill for this movie…if any of you can find the quote he is making for his role as mr t and then find the quote for the money he made for the reality show and the fight with rashad combined then please post it….and the investment the ufc made getting this event in memphis just for rampage…and it wont even compare…

someone please post what rampage is making for this movie…dude aint leonardo dicaprio in titanic…

the fight was so important for him with rashad that he was willing to give up a title shot to fight him…and then he goes on the first episode of tuf and clowns rashad for getting ko’d by machida…yet at least rashad had the balls to fight machida

by HellaHectic on Sep 18, 2009 2:17 AM EDT reply actions

Rampage is a fame craving loony!! He ignored me in London at ufc95 when I asked for a photo, he would have kissed Danas ass to get the coverage and fight opportunities that the ufc have given him, it’s down to the ufc not rampage that he was even offered the movie stuff. He’s completely forgotten where his bread is butterred and especially after Dana bailed him out and stuff.

Yes it’s rampages choice but it’s also danas choice how to treat him now once his movie career fails!! I hate rashad but I hope he kos rampage back to earth!! Atleast Dana has proved slot of people wrong that he doesn’t have favirouts when it comes to business!!

by Mo on Sep 18, 2009 5:43 AM EDT reply actions

LOL Crocop owes Rampage a drink!

by Neil on Sep 18, 2009 6:09 AM EDT reply actions

Page should just get told to Fuck Off out of the UFC

by Insain on Sep 18, 2009 8:06 AM EDT reply actions

WTF is Dana’s mouf spewing?! Foul mouthed bastard[who gives good PPVs]! Hehehe!

by The Negation on Sep 18, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions

Great point – you think he wanted to use BJ vs Diego in Memphis? He wanted to use him for a card near the end of the season to make it better for us (and of course his pockets). Just wait though, 108 and 109 won’t have as muck luster because all of the card shuffling.

He also had to move Guida vs KFLO to Memphis. The Vegas fans deserved to see that more then Memphis.

As for Rampage, put him through hell when he gets back. I’d honestly consider dropping him. Make a lesson out of him so other fighters don’t do the same thing down the road. It’s gotta be tough to keep fighters as fighters and not mega stars.

by DF on Sep 18, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions

Dana can’t drop anybody out of spite otherwise they’ll shoot right over to Strikeforce out of spite and no matter what, that looks bad in the public eye and hurts his credibility. He can only drop fighters that honestly suck, like Silvia for example.

by Bryan139 on Sep 18, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions

What he can do is give him bad match ups. Either fighters that would probably beat him, or make his fights boring. Then get rid of him like he did with Tito and Huerta.

by naturalshadow on Sep 18, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Rampage pity’s the fools who don’t believe in him, Rampage is going kill as BA. Dana’s just a whiner who isn’t getting his way so he bitches like a fat kid with a ball on a playground with no friends.

by bigmcmac on Sep 18, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions

Are you kidding me? Only 11,000 people attended UFC 100. I think they did better with 16,000 attendees at 102. You can hold this is Madison Square Garden, Giants stadium, Fenway, Wrigley, where ever. It doesn’t matter. His money comes from the PPV. I hope the people in Memphis read his quote. They’ll be fighting in front of 3,000 like the last WEC.

by Bryan139 on Sep 18, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions

Just read that 103 has already set a new gate record for sporting events at the AAC in Dallas.

by PW on Sep 18, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions

All the UFC events sell out. The thing that determines crowd size is the capacity of the venue. Anybody heard where the Memphis fight is gonna be held? We’ve got the Colluseum, the Forum, and the Pyramid, or it might be down the river a few miles in Tunica, Mississippi at the Casinos.

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Neither Dana or Rampage are innocent in this mess. On one hand Rampage did his whole road-rage incedent and Dana stood by him. On the other hand fighters don’t get any money in between fights from the UFC, so when an opportunity comes knocking you may have to take it.

Is it just me or does anyone else think stuff like this could be avoided if the UFC started doing yearly contracts like football, hockey, baseball players do instead of fight-by-fight contracts. There would be a hell of a lot less fighters out there looking for supplemental income if they were getting a cheque in the mail every two weeks, rather than one every four, five, or six months.

The UFC more or less treats their fighters like they are contractors or tradespeople. If you were the owner of a homebuilding company and contracted work out to different trades, but you didn’t have any work for them for the next four months…would you blame the trades if they went out and found more work in the mean time? You can’t blame them for that anymore than you can blame a fighter for doing the same thing.

The answer to that problem would be to hire trades, pay them a yearly salary, and have them work under your company banner for the entire year…that way they are bound to work for you whenever you need work done. Does it cost more?…yes. Does it avoid conflicts like this?…yes. It’s just a matter of whether it’s worth the extra cost or not, and by Dana’s reaction to whenever stuff like this happens…one would think that it would be worth it for him.

I know it would be a little tricky with injuries at camp’s, insurance, and stuff like that. and it’s not exactly like other sports, but a room full of lawyers with t’s to cross and i’s to dot could figure something out.

JMHO

Flame if you will

by introvert on Sep 18, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions

What is a cheque? “whenever stuff like this happens” I can’t recall it happening that often introvert. To do what you propose because of wannabe comedian and thug Quinton Rampage Jackson doesn’t make sense in my opinion. I think the fighters are paid just fine and wish the UFC would disclose all of the bonuses that are handed out under the table.

by Adam T. on Sep 18, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions

Rampage is paid fine, sure…but paying him fine doesn’t mean that the UFC owns him in between fights.

If the UFC wants to control what fighters do in between fights, then they have to pay them in between fights … it’s that simple.

If the UFC handed out “bonuses” and shit in between fights you’d know about it, because you can be rest assured that Dana would love to tell you exactly how much these “bonuses” are.

Anyway if you disagree, that’s fine, but what the UFC does would be equivalent to the New England Patriots paying Tom Brady for a Sunday’s work, then sending him off on his own to train and practice for a week, then bringing him in again next Sunday to work again.

I’m just saying that the UFC would be better served by spreading out the money over a longer period of time and taking care of guys in between fights…that way they are actually employees and not just contractors.

by introvert on Sep 18, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions

The bottom line is that a guy with Rampage’s IQ and group around him could make 50 phucking million dollars a year and he would still be phucking broke within 10 years after he is finished fighting.

by Adam T. on Sep 18, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions

I won’t agree or disagree, but what does Rampages spending habits have to do with anything? It’s his money…HIS TIME….he can do what he wants. If the UFC had signed him to a yearly contract it would still be his money….BUT THE UFC’S TIME…he can’t just do what he wants. That’s the difference.

by introvert on Sep 18, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions

What difference does it make introvert? Instead of paying a guy 300,000 for three fights the UFC would pay them a salary of 300,000. How does that change anything? I don’t have any idea how the contracts are structured and that would seem to be the most important thing when it comes to the freedom to do other things.
Rampage’s spending habits are none of my business but money was the main point of your writeup and the reason why you said the fighters seek out other income streams. A guy like Rampage will always seek out more money (because he can piss it away fast) regardless of what you pay him. Rampage isn’t a GSP or Machida. He just wants the limelight. Guys like GSP and Machida would never do something as stupid as Rampage is because fighting is their life. Money and fame is Rampage’s life.

by Adam T. on Sep 18, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Adam, the purpose of my post was basically to say that if the UFC wants to have fighters at their disposal 365 days a year…they have to pay them 365 days a year. It’s that simple. Dana can piss and moan all he wants that Rampage can’t fight when he wants him to, but Rampage has every right to do so under the current contract terms (obviously, or else it wouldn’t be happening).

The UFC has the luxury of making their money from events, then cutting the payroll off the top and handing out cheques (or “checks” if you rather)…most companies don’t have that luxury. By paying yearly contracts you lose that luxury…but you retain your employees services all year long…and isn’t that what the issue is?

The current fight-by-fight style of contract basically means that a UFC fighter is only a UFC fighter on fight night…the rest of the time they are unemployed.

We’ll agree to disagree.

by introvert on Sep 18, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions

After Rampage knocked out Wanderlei in his last fight he said in his interview, “we takin’ over” He was referring to the Wolf’s Lair. Well let’s see how that has turned out. That phucker has turned down two fights, the first a championship fight. Kongo got ground and pounded into dust by Cain and is going to get subbed by Mir. And Bisping got knocked out cold by Hendo. Phuck Rampage and Wolf’s Lair.

by Adam T. on Sep 18, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions

Rampage is the greatest coach in 10 seasons of the Ultimate Fighter. I cannot understand how Abe Wagner lost. If he would have listened to his corner he may have come out of this fight with the W. I heard Rampage continuously yelling “Get up Abe, Get up Abe, You’re gonna lose if you don’t get up Abe.” I also remember Rampage shouting into the cage “He’s beating you up Abe, Get up Abe, Get up Abe, You gotta gotta get up Abe.” With this type of dirction I can’t understand why Abe did not get up. If he would have stopped getting beat up he would have surely won the fight. To all of the haters who think that Rampage is not a good coach, I challenge you to let us know what you would have had Abe Wagner do to win his fight?

by Mike on Sep 18, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions

“what you would have had Abe Wagner do to win his fight?”

Throw a punch

by introvert on Sep 18, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions

He was obviosly afraid to fight, he threw up in a bucket before he came out for Pete’s sake.

by Rich on Sep 18, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions

That was like the Homer Simpson-Drederick Tatum fight.
Marge: He’s not going to get tired. You have to hit him back. HIT HIM BACK!
Homer: That cactus is right. I have to hit him back.

by PW on Sep 18, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ve already commented on why Rampage shouldn’t be expected to have great coaching skills given the lack of coaches he’s had as models in his own career. But you guys who keep ripping on his ringside comments need to listen to the cornermen during UFC fights. Most of the time, they’re yelling things like. “Get up”“Hit him”“Elbow!”“Stop running”“Beat his @$$” etc. Sometimes they give more specific advice between rounds, but during the action, they’re not screaming out a lot of tactical genius.

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I have to agree with Dana. Rampage is passing on a potential great fight for this!? The A Team show sucked and I’m sure the movie will suck. It’s almost like the Pittsburgh Steelers pulling out of the playoffs to do a rap video or something stupid. What is Rampage thinking? Very disappointing.

by Rich on Sep 18, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions

Easy Rich. The A Team was a cool show. I loved it. Rampage, on the other hand, not so much.

by Adam T. on Sep 18, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions

To each his own I guess.

by Rich on Sep 18, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions

I’m used to the posters changing the thread from one topic to another. But midway thru the thread title?!

Dana has one upped us once again! New record! Changing the thread topic mid thread topic title? Genius! No wonder he is where he is.

Oh this stuff is fun.

by Daniel worby on Sep 18, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions

The Pittsburgh Steelers know when the playoffs are when the season starts, and the players are paid for the entire season…the NFL retains their services throughout the year. The UFC doesn’t do that.

by introvert on Sep 18, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions

Again, Rampage isn’t passing up on anything. He’s still gonna fight Rashad when he gets back. And there will be other Memphis cards for him to headline.

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions

If Rampage was not black this wouldn’t even be a problem. Dana White is a AHOLE is a racist. LOL, Just kidding. Dana White isn’t an AHOLE.

by Anderson Silva on Sep 18, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions

Where are my posts?

by introvert on Sep 18, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions

Rampage is a clown, since his loss to Forrest he has been dodging fights and acting like a total headcase. I would love to see Dana send him packing to Strikeforce. There are so many other guys that are as good if not better and that actually want to fight instead of just being on TV. Since Page’s first fight in the UFC he has gone all Hollywood, its clear to me that Fame and Fortune have gone to his head, you can tell by watching and listening to him that he doesnt even want to fight anymore. If he ever gets in there with Rashad, Rashad will destroy him.

by the spyder on Sep 18, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions

Now MMA LIVE is saying since Rampage bailed on his own hometown, he should have to fight Rashad in HIS hometown. But the only place Rashad beats Rampage is in an Armani fashion runway pose-a-thon. You guys are hatin’ on Rampage for doing A-team, but mark my words, one of these days Rashad will bail on fighting to follow his dream of being a runway model!

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I think the fight between forrest and anderson was a payed fight i was one of his biggest fans but that bullshit he did (given up) was all for the money forrest has alot of fans but i dout he does anymore i want buy another PPV fight with him in it just to see him give up an run off like a baby thanks mike

by MIKE D on Sep 18, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions

Poor Forrest did NOT GIVE UP. He just got knocked on his keister repeatedly and the poor dude always just looks goofy as hell whenever he’s on his back, with his gangly limbs flailing wildly in the air. I felt bad for him even before the fight started cause I knew that fight was hand-picked by Dana to make Silva look great, at the expense of Forrest’s dignity.

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

“with his gangly limbs flailing wildly in the air”
true, and freaking hilarious….

by salamagogo on Sep 19, 2009 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions

Now MMA LIVE is saying since Rampage bailed on his own hometown, he should have to fight Rashad in HIS hometown. But the only place Rashad beats Rampage is in an Armani fashion runway pose-a-thon. You guys are hatin’ on Rampage for doing A-team, but mark my words, one of these days Rashad will bail on fighting to follow his dream of being a runway model!

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions

fail!

by kevin on Sep 18, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

meaning?

by shonuff on Sep 18, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

meaning it wasn’t very funny. I’m half kidding. I don’t get why someone that has a bit of class (and cockiness) gets made fun of? I’m in no way a Rashad fan, but like the fact that he doesn’t find it necessary to wear T-shirts everywhere!
I think GSP does well in this area too, except he wears the same suit EVERY SINGLE TIME!

by kevin on Sep 18, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I used to think he had class till he got up in Rampage’s face after the Jardine fight and they had to bleep out everything Rashad said cause every other word started with “F”. I don’t hate Rashad, I just think it’s funny that he dresses so over-the-top and still spouts off unintelligible potty talk. Other guys wear regular business suits and behave accordingly and don’t come off like posers.

I’m a HUGE GSP fan and he seems like a genuinely classy guy (inside, not just the threads) but his long arms and big head look goofy as heck in a suit.

But I’d rather see a guy like GSP behave with class and wear tank tops than see a guy wearing Armani and talking filth.