UFC President Dana White tryin' to keep a black van down

considering he is the one fighting on the PPV’s making Dana money, I see no problem.. What about when he jumped in to fight Keith “the loser” Jardine to save their lame PPV?
Rampage wouldn’t do this if it wasn’t for the money, and no fighter is getting rich in the UFC!

This is the perfect move by Rampage it puts pressure on Dana to pay the fighters more!..

how?
go look at what Rampage makes, he’s not going to get anymore bt stabbing his #1 employer in the back. In a “normal” job, you’d be fired!
Roberto, you usually make some great points, but are way off on this one!

Kevin: I dont want to rehash this hole discussion again, but I would respectfully like to say, that he isnt making less money then the rashad fight. That comparison would be valid if he had too chose the movie or the fight. Rampage doesnt have to make that decision. He is doing both.The Rashad fight isnt going to magically disappear. UFC put oon the Hughes/Serra fight about a year and a half after the TUF show.

I do agree that he does owe Dana to some extent, but I try not to judge people on the financial decisions that they make. Since Graduating last June, I have learned the hard way that life is NO JOKE…so I try not to be judgemental when it comes to fighters/people making financial decisions.

I was under the impression that the Rashad fight would take place no later then superbowl weekend. If thats the case, then it isnt a big deal at all. BUt recently I have been hearing conflicting reports that the fight might get pushed back 6 months. If thats the case, I will hammer the crucifiction spokes into his body myself.

As a Rampage fan, I will say that I am pleased that the fight wont be taking place in Memphis. I hate when one of my fav fighters takes a high profile fight in their hometown for the 1st time. I think its added pressure and BS that works against the fighter more then it helps.

Im done talking on this subject until I know how long exactly this fight will be pushed back.

This post was nothing but respectful…I look forward to you guys crucifying me, and bashing me for these statements. If anyone feels like engaging in a respectful debate, let me know…I really dont have the time today to get into a pissing match or spending the day defending myself from all the people that hate me on this site!

good post Roberto

John, I agree to an extent, but do need to bring up one sticking point with me (anyone in memphis I apologize in advance). Do you think for a second that without Rampage begging and pleading to fight in front of his home town that Dana (or anyone else for that matter) would choose to go to Memphis???

I would think Dana wants to keep his fighters “fighting” I don’t see too many guys in other sports getting into the movie business (‘cause they don’t need the paper).. so paying the stars more and actually making them sign the bout agreements is an easy way of solving the problem!

I was gonna say the same about your post john, I completely agree.. take your time kevin :)

You don’t want him fighting in his hometown??? It’s sad if at this point in his career he feels pressure in his own house. A professional should over come any kind of pressure anyway, right? When you keep screwing your employer over it will hurt you financially down the road! I don’t think it’s a money thing anyway, Page just knows that his one dimensional fighting ways are a thing of the past. Unless your Brock and out weigh everyone by 40 lbs of muscle. He knows that he has no chance against Machida and will probably lose against Rashad. Can’t run forever scummer!!!!

Roberto in one of the posts up top you said no fighter is getting rich in the UFC? I hopw you were being sarcastic.

Those big enough to be on a % of the pay per views are getting rich. The disclosed salaries are like chump change compared to that.

Do you remember that Matt Hughes implied that he earnt 1 million + for the gracie fight. That was only just out of the dark ages. The big names are earning more now.

I can see both sides of the argument in this discussion. Like john says he is not bailing a la Huerta mearly delaying. That being said Dana was really good to page during his meltdown, maybe he should have said thanks but no thanks to the film.

On a side note you have to admit he looks the part, even in Mania’s photoshop.

yes, Nick. I was being a bit sarcastic or maybe i wasn’t, it depends on which sports/businesses you’re comparing with.. It’s obvious anyway that he’s making more $$ by doing this movie and life is like poker – if you don’t take chances you’re never gonna end up a winner..

Umm huerta isn’t even bailing a la heurta. Did roger get scheduled for a huge main event after coaching tuf?

Did he then bail? Did he bail on any of his fights? No he fought who they said, kept his mouth shut, and has had not one war or words to date, against dana. Very respectful and not the same situation.

That being said I was initially irate at the postponement news. That from a fans point of view. Once I looked at it from a ‘what would I do’ point of view, the answer became more clear.

As if you wouldn’t want to play a character you watched in ur favorite show growing up in a movie remake that stands to get you noticed to ppl that don’t know you. Also, its pretty neat as a memory down the road.

For those reasons alone I’m not debating the payroll arguement as no one is going to agree on it anyways because its to up in the air for actual #s. Sponsors, salary, etc.

I dont neccessarily think Rampage asked to fight in Memphis. I know Dana wanted to capitalize on Rampage in Memphis,and thats the only reason why the event is being held there. I dont disagree!

Huerta moaned publicly about how fighters were being treated, then rejected a contract in order to leave and enter the movie business.

I would say that is bailing from the UFC and under a cloud at that.

I am not saying the Rampage situation is anthing like that at all if you re-read my post.

Rampage has always from the get-go been using MMA as a spring-board to acting. Everyone has known about his dreams of being a movie star since before his Pride days. This shouldn’t surprise anyone, Dana included.

Re-read it again and if ur not saying the huerta situation is in any way similar to this, then why say it in the 1st place? Its not a roger thread? And the comparison makes as much sense as throwing in a “bailed like FEDOR did” comment.

The worst part about what rampage has done is, now we may as well get the copy and paste ready, cause we could all be arguing our same arguements every day for 6 months.

Ugh thanks rampage. You better ko him out dramatically for all this

Right ok so if a thread is on one particular fighter may you be struck down by lightning if you mention another to help illustrate a point.

Don’t know quite why your on my nuts so bad.

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone that doesn’t think this movie is going to tank? Does anyone really want to see an A-Team movie?

Bradley Cooper, Liam Neeson, Jessica Beil, and Sharlto Copley…………….YEA REALLY LOW BUDGET STRAIGHT TO DVD CAST THERE!

Face it, you are talking out of your ass.

I’m not saying it’s not gonna flop, but it’s not going straight to DVD with a 150+ million dollar budget!

I don’t think he should be doing the movie but PW you are wrong about the movie going straight to dvd. Joe Cranahan is directing it, A-list director and writer, Leeam Neeson and Bradley Cooper along side him. This isn’t Midnight Meatrain 2. This is a summer blockbuster action film that is coming out in the busy season 2010. Not even close to a “crappy production.”

Sucks that he left us all out to dry but the role will bring a lot of new fans to his fights, especially after the film is released next year.

He probably won’t make much from this, but look at Vinnie Jones, he makes a good living out of making crap films. The timing was bad for everyonewithout doubt, but if he didn’t try, he would never know. It’s allright for fans to criticise and Dana to moan, they are not the one making a living getting their faces smashed in, in a match that could end up being your last. After seeing the state of Mark Coleman with his two crying kids next to him after one of his fights, I am all for any fighter trying to make a living anyway they can. I am a fan of the sport and will obviously be gutted to lose a fighter, but not looking at it through selfish eyes, I would wish them every success.

Ade: Very solid post! Much respect to you!

Every single person on this site would tell their boss to F off, if they had a chance at being in this movie.

I wouldn’t because it’s not going to lead to anything else, it has no benefits and (If I were as dumb as Rampage) I’d piss through the million I made buying asian hookers and big trucks with my name on it! I’d keep my job and try to take a week or two off to film…and if I had the chance to fight, fuck or rob IN MY HOME TOWN I’d turn the movie down!!!!!

LOL!!! Don’t speak for me because you couldn’t be more wrong!

He’s a bitch

OK, sorry it will have about a 2-week run in theaters before going to DVD, and ultimately into the buy 1 get 1 free bin at Best Buy. Point is, this role is NOT going to lead to huge Hollywood paydays, and if he thinks it will he is badly overestimating his value as an entertainer.

Call it Chyna Syndrome. Chyna made a few movies while in WWE, then left WWE because she thought she could be a big star. It turns out nobody was interested in Joanie Laurer, only in WWE Superstar Chyna. Without the WWE she was relegated to The Surreal Life. Hollywood movie executives are not interested in Quentin Jackson, only in UFC Superstar Rampage Jackson. If he does not have the UFC machine behind him, his value will be seriously diminished.

great post PW!

Completely agree with Kevin and BOW. The UFC should be the first priority for Rampage. Then if there is time and they fit into his fighting/training schedule he can do all the movies he wants. This just shows you who Rampage’s loyalty is to. And to the guys who say that the UFC fighters aren’t getting rich or they need to find other outlets to survive, maybe if they learned how to manage their money, invest properly and not waste it on another sports car they would be able to retire comfortably after their fight career is over. I have no compassion for their stupidity and their spending habits. I hope they’re phucking broke and cleaning bathrooms in twenty years.

Gotta agree with that part PW, Movie execs are interested in Rampage not Quinton Jackson,however as much as i dont want the fight being put back i can still see why Rampage done it.

PW: Again, you are making delusional speculations about a 2 week run in theaters, HA.

And to compare what “Chyna” did by disolving her contract with WWE to act, to what Quinton is doing by delaying a fight a few months to act, is not an apples to apples and is a very bad comparison.

Perhaps Jackson never acts again, but this is a huge opportunity for him to be in a movie with huge actors.

yeah, I dont disagree with that PW. Thats why the smart thing is to try and capitalize on as many of these opportunities that you get while you are a mega star in the fight game.

Reality is that there is no right or wrong answer to this debate. Its the mans right to seek out a living and take as many opportunities as he is presented. Of course we would all rather see Page fight, then make the movie. If I had it my way, Rashad/Page would happen tonight on haf a days notice. Its def better then seeing guys like Cung Le, and Huerta leave mma for movie roles that none of us will ever even watch. Hopefully the Rashad fight happens by superbowl weekend. If thats the case, then uts really not that big of a deal.

Mike Z, I’m basing my predictions on the success of this movie on past movies that were based on 80s TV shows. Dukes of Hazard had plenty of star power and sucked. Miami Vice had more star power and sucked worse. There is nothing to suggest that the A-Team movie will be any better.

As far as Rampage goes, if he wants to squeeze in these movie roles between training camps and fights, then fine. But as I said above, his marketability as an “actor” is tied 100% to being a high-profile UFC fighter.

Not to encroach on the high powered debate here, but I think Starsky n Hutch was pretty funny.

I think the UFC is big enough to handle Rampage trying to expand his portfolio. I personally think he is a bit lost but he is very funny and deserves an opportunity. Again, the UFC is big enough to handle this and I think many are hugging Dana’s balls a bit to tight here. Jesse, why are you hugging Dana’s balls?

Lastly, I live in Memphis and I take no offense to anyone saying that they would not want to come back here and fight back in front of their home crowd. Not that Memphis is such a bad place, but what Quinton crawled out of is no joke.

I thought starky and Hutch was awesome.

“arch your back, and look back at me like a DRAGON” hahahahaha

Starsky and Hutch was a 70s show, not an 80s show. But I had completely forgotten they even made it. It was probably the least successful of all Ben Stiller’s comedies.

PW is right. Add to that list Charlie’s Angels 1 and especially 2. The A-Team cast looks pretty good, but this is a wait for dvd movie if I have ever seen one.

lol, I’m ugly and still get quality pussy, so nah I don’t care!

hahaha! I hope you mean your wife’s..

lol, I was never good looking bro!
I did have tons of pussy prior to being married!

oh c’mon now Kevin. You’re hot. lol.

yeah because since joining the UFC, Rampage has been known for fighting 4 times a year!

Of course he would have. Dana wouldn’t go and bail him out of jail just for funnsies. He is his employee and he did him a solid, this is how he pays people back. Rampage is and always was a scumbag.

Bingo jay. “Rampage is and always was a scumbag” Couldn’t agree more.