Ive stunk worse!

Is it just me or is Couture just as garbage as vera. He was in 205, got KTFO, so he moved up to HW where the only challenge was Tim Sylvia. Now, at HW, he got KFTO so he is dropping back down. I’m sooo tired of seeing this guy on ‘pound for pound’ lists… it disgusts me….

It’s just you.

His only challenge was Sylvia?? I think he had a tougher time with Gonzaga. He also put up a good fight against a 280lb Lesnar, and also put up one of the most exciting fights against Nog. I think you should start watching mma, instead of looking at Sherdog stats.

Take it easy the man is 46 years old sig back in the day he could compete against anyone and every MMA fighter from Wandy, Henderson, Fedor, Gracie,Chuck, hughes….would all have called him one of the best pound for pound fighters a few years back the fact that he can still compete at 46 against the best and since he’s a legend he gains more respect than some believe he should but that should not disgust you look at fedor who is on the pound for pound top three list now and he has done nothing to deserve that honor?

haha… i’ve watched mma since the monkey stomp in UFC 1 son… when Couture originally moved up to HW Sylvia had the belt… and Gonzaga was next in line… aka… there was no competition… and the original reason he retired was bc he kept getting his teeth smashed at 205… it just bugged me that he had the belt in a horrible divsion but because he was old as balls people kept saying he was one of the best pound for pound fighters.. when in fact he couldn’t even compete at his natural weight class.. now he is going to beat up on a can in the 205 lb weight class in order to promote a #1 contender fight or even possibly a title shot… c’mon man… i respect him for what he has done for the sport but just because you can ‘compete’ doesn’t mean you should… and it DEF doesn’t mean your one of the best in the world…

and PS… yes Fedor disgusts me as well… but back to my point… when he was champ who were the top contenders? AA and Tim Sylvia? Where are those guys now? thank u!

Hmmm where are those guys now…last I heard, one of them was kickiing the crap out of Brandon Vera.

The fact that the HW division was weak at that time Randy was champ doesn’t lessen the fact that Randy beat the best HWs the UFC had to offer. He was the clear and undisputed #1 HW this side of the Pacific. And if the HW division had a reasonable size cap like all the other weight classes, Randy would still easily be #2. The fact that the last year or two has seen the division evolve into into a freakin’ monster movie doesn’t lessen Randy’s skills. He can still hold his own with anybody in the world near his “natural weight”. Lesnar’s got 60 lbs on Randy. That’s like saying B.J.Penn is overrated because he can’t handle Rampage Jackson.

Way to bring something to the debate their nick ;-)

With the exception of a very lazy headliner, this reeks of a cage rage card.

I’m half expecting the UFC to not bother sending Buffer over and just wheel out that god awful cockney MC who used to wear the exceptionally rancid suits in cage rage.

However, I don’t want to appear as if I’m ‘hating’ on this event, yes there will be some undoubtedly exciting match’s, but other than maybe Hardy vs Stun Gun, I see nothing on that card of any relevance to any division, and even the example I gave is questionable.

this definitely advances either fighter in the LHW picture, i dont see how you think it wont, the ufc has randy locked down for the rest of his career, and they paid good money to do so, now all they need is an excuse (win against Vera) to put him in a title shot for big ppv numbers, if vera beats randy he deserves a significant bump up in competition, if not a contender matchup, or someone like the loser of rampage v. rashad or loser of machida v. shogun

attakdog u should just copy and paste ur anti british posts!!u sound like that skeleton off the old scotch videotape advert rerecord not fade away,rerecord not fade away.repeat ad nauseum!!

Tell me i’m wrong? What dont you agree with?

So old man Couture (16-10) gets added against perennial underachiever Brandon Vera and we should all break out the Champagne and dance naked round the streets??? Come on! This really isn’t a great card, I’m just asking for a bit more when the Ufc comes here, not just scraps. I wanted to attend this show but for me it isn’t worth the four hour trip and £100 for a decent seat.

I agree it isnt a great card, and its unfortunate for you personally maybe, but for the rest of us that simply have to tune in to spike tv for free and watch randy drop to 205 and take on a contender, worse things can happen.

attakdog, you my friend have to give up on the UFC… save your money and go to see PL football it’s so much more worth it!

tell me about im a villain and just watched us beat the scum.bloody great!!!

I would do Roberto if my team Nottingham Forest could get back there!

attack, NOthing will ever make you happy! Instead of bitching at the UFC, complain to your cheap ass fellow Brits who dont buy UFC ppv’s. If Brits owuld actually spend money and purchase ppv’s when they come to the UK…UFC superstars that get ppv percentage dollars would come fight in y our Country…but since you guys dont spend anything, you should consider yourself fortunate that a legend like Couture is coming to your country.

This card isnt even bad! Stop your bitching! If it was on ppv, I would buy it! Vera vs. Couture will be very competitive and its a match up between 2 legit LHW. Add Big Nog vs. Cane and Bisping/Kang…you have 3 solid fights…I dont know why I bother, people like you will never be happy anyway!

there is no such thing as PPV in Europe (there is) no one buys it… that’s why the UFC has to make TV deals, the UFC makes a ton of money on that and it comes out to so many more

You quit your b!tching john you pr!ck. One minute your on this subject saying “i feel sorry for you Brits, you’ve been shafted again”, the next your telling us it’s our own fault.

WTF are you on about Lil Nog vs Kane, that’s at 106 you knob as you well know.

“Comment by john G
2009-09-12 10:32:47
I feel bad that the Brit ans are getting shafted again. Banha/Nog should headline UFC 105 in the UK, instead of being the 3rd biggest fight on the UFc106 card. What a joke!, I really feel for you Brits!”

Decide which side of the fence you’re on before taking potshots at me champ ;-)

As RoB says PPV dont work in Europe, so get a new argument, that one’s tired. It’s been going for nearly 30 years in America, I think it would have caught on here by now if it was going to. UFC’s go out at 3 in the morning here, so how can you expect anyone to pay £30 for that I dont know. No American would pay for that and that is a FACT! You guys wont even pay for British PPV’s when they go out in the afternoon your end.

I’ve already said I’m not going. So you “quit being yourself” (an @sshole) and STFU!

Don’t know why everyone is having a go at attakdog. Fine, ye Americans will get the card for free on Spike etc… Great for ye. The UFC doesn’t come around the British Isles too often and regular attendees have a right to voice their disappointment at what is an extremely weak card

So far I only have a Maynard/Larson parlay back when they were -300 and -500.

Gray and Pray for the win!

I’m not worried Stink, but if he stands with Guillard he could get KO’d. I think a quick submission is his only way to go!

I think Nate’s best/easiest chance at winning this fight is to take Melvin to the ground. Sure, nate has the reach advantage, but Melvin has the speed, power and explosiveness advantages. I can’t see Nate putting Melvin to sleep with one punch but Melvin is capable of putting anyone to sleep with one punch. Nate could try to pick him apart from the outside, but Melvin will be leaping in right thru nate’s jabs to try and land vicious hooks.

Nate better not lose 3 in a row. The fact that Melvin lasted 3 rounds with Gleison Tibau has me worried for Nate in this fight – at least more so than I should be with him going against Melvin

well, unlike guida and joe daddy, melvin’s sub defense isn’t that great..

but~

like u said melvin has the power advantage..

imo~[and many] nate doesn’t do well against strong short doods, when hitting the ground..

sure nate has a good chance to pull off the sub, but if he’s not successful, he will end up losing another decison[just like his bro]

imo- he should keep a gap and box!~ no clinch~ no td’s..

vm, u can’t see nate putting melvin to sleep with one punch?

i sure can.. nate hits focking hard.. plus he’s got those stingers like his bro..

he could easily daze melvin enough to pull off a tko..

nate HAS to use his reach in his advantage! not to melvins advantage..

short, strong, powerful and exploisive fighters have an easy time holding and controlling lanky fighters on the ground..[ie,guida,joe]

no focking way melvin ko’s nate.. thats almost laughable..

a fraggan sludghammer couldn’t tap that jaw!~

off to poker tournament in Hayward, maybe one day the infamous stinky figers will meet me there!

I think ur wrong stinky..
Melvin is so explosive and fast that he should dominate standing, when your as tall and skinny as Nate is you lose speed/explosiveness/power.. Melvin is gonna be able to take him down whenever he wants or keep it standing for as long as he wants..

maybe one day, kevin.. havn’t been in the bay too much these days!~

roberto,~ nate has waay better stand up than melvin!~
i can agree with explosiveness and power, but no way in hell melvin is a faster striker..

speed and skill go to my boy..

if nate wants to box, he should have no problem out stiking melv!~

Boo freaking Hoo. You f’n brits get way too many shows as it is. Over here on the east coast of the US, we get one show every 2 years. That is a joke. New England, the Tri-State Area and a bit south of that deserves more UFC events than these ungrateful Brits. You all cry because your homeboy Bisping is in the featured bout. Well guess what? The Jersey event two years ago featured a main event of Bisping vs Rashad Evans. THAT is pitiful.

Boo freaking hoo the UFC doesn’t go to the east coast very often. So fly to a better show somewhere else like I had to for 100 in Vegas.

I agree. Bisping and Rashad that is really pitiful. 2 of the ufc-superhype phenomenons that will never beat anyone worth mentioning.

lol~ crybaby’s!~

j/k

who is this shogun person you are referring to? An old Japanese force commander? Sounds scary :)

Shit yeah, sorry stink I meant Shogun ;-)

Nope, you got it right the first time, K-dog.

First answer is always the truest!

Machida!

:)

No way OJR, my boy Shogun’s gonna shock the world!!!

before 09’ started, i claimed this year to be the ‘year of the gun’.. i said shogun would be champ by 2010 and it looks like it could happen.

war shogun..

It will not happen. And you were wrong.

Machida might well do skope, infact he definitely would. Randy is a draw though and Machida isn’t the biggest draw. Since when have title shots always gone to the most deserving man too??? Randy has form in getting title shots for little or no reason, I really do believe he’ll be given a crack at Machida/Shogun should he win.

And that is why we must pray that Vera decapitates him.

Although Veras recent performances doesnt make that a very likely scenario.

Im afraid we’ll see Couture winning a decision and getting the shot.

i agree attak!~

with rampage vs rashad on hold, randy is seeking the oportunity to get a quick win at lhw and squeeze into a title shot before the true #1 contender match..

imo~ if randy wins in dominant fashion, we will see him fight for the lhw gold in his next fight..

The Shad/Page match isn’t going to happen before March, which means the earliest they could fight Machida would be july. I think Rampage is the only one who’d get the shot anyway, dont see the UFC wanting to hype Rashad vs Machida after the last one was so embarassingly one sided.

Who else is in contention?
Forrest – No
Thiago Silva – No (looked good against Jardine but lost badly against Machida.)
Jardine – No
Tito – No (lost easily last time)
Lil Nog – Possibly, needs two wins though.

Randy has defo gotta be in the mix.

Attackdog, i agree the brits got screwed with this fight card. However, you left off Rich Franklin as a title contender at 205. If he can win impressivly again Belfort I think he will be in line for the shot.

i have to disagree, ralphie..

while it is possible, i don’t see franklin getting the next crack..

franklin needs to win a fight at 205 against a top 5 fighter to get a title shot..

if franklin beats vitor[and he will] that puts him on a 2 fight win streak.. problem is, both fights were at 195 against fighters that will be fighting at 185 in the future[wand,vitor]..

while having back2back wins over wand and vitor is very impressive, the win against wand was too close of a fight and who’s to say rich wins in dominant fashion, let alone win at all..

i say if franklin wins, give him a top 205er and go from there..

if randy wins, we will most likely see him fighting for the belt, while rampage plays b.a~

How about Couture vs Franklin if Rich wins against Vitor? Sounds fair to me.

Assuming Randy gets by Vera as well (and thats a tough fight to call right there).

if they both win?

sounds fine to me!~

 then it wouldn’t be that bad of a look, giving either a title shot with a win..

Ya that would work guys.

But I really hope the Rampage/Rashad fight happens sometime in January. Then it would make it possible for a Rampage title shot in March or so, since Rampage will take zero damage against hype-shad.

Rampage/Machida is the #1 match I want to see out of the whole LHW division, even though I’m pumped for Shogun to give it a try.

Rampage is my homeboy from my High School and I’m a huge fan. But what’s he got against Machida? Good takdowns and top control? Sure, but he hasn’t used his since he discovered how hard he could KO folks with his hands. Rampage is definitely a harder hitter than Couture, but thos big looping outside punches will never get anywhere near Machida. And Couture has even better takedowns and ground control than Rampage…therefore, while I don’t think Couture could beat Rampage, I think Couture has a better shot at beating Machida than Rampage does because he’s smart enough not to try and stand with Machida, whereas Rampage will be inclined to make the same mistake Rashad and Thiago made.

Rampage vs Rashad or Shogun are much more interesting matchups than Rampage vs Machida until Rampage redisovers his wrestling roots.

har har har; which says what about Ortiz and Vera if they both lose =P

ooo wait a sec, the orange Centrum chewable tablets?? Those are goooood…

I think the winner of Coleman/Ortiz should fight Franklin or Forrest.