Paul 'Semtex' Daley vs Martin Kampmann for UFC 103 booked with Mike Swick hurt
by Jesse Holland on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT
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A concussion suffered during training on Sept. 3 has forced UFC welterweight Mike Swick to withdraw from his UFC 103 fight against fellow 170-pound contender Martin Kampmann at the "Belfort vs. Franklin" event in Dallas, Texas.
MMAmania.com has confirmed with Swick's camp that the former Ultimate Fighter contestant has indeed been pulled from the line-up following his head injury.
The news was first reported by The Sun , who also pegs Affliction transplant Paul "Semtex" Daley as the last-minute replacement for "Quick" opposite "The Hitman" on Sept. 19.
The Nottingham, England, native was to make his Octagon debut against fellow promotional newcomer Brian Foster after recently inking a four-fight deal with the UFC in late July following the collapse of Affliction MMA.
The status of Foster for UFC 103 is unknown at this time.
Daley is currently enjoying back-to-back wins after dropping two out of three to Nick "The Goat" Thompson and Jake Shields prior to that. He most recently put his stamp on Junior Barata, needing less than three minutes to take care of business.
The hard-hitting Brit will look to do the same against Kampmann; however, he may not get the chance if he can’t stay upright.
The 26-year-old slugger boasts 16 (technical) knockout wins in 21 career bouts (more than 75 percent). However, he is often criticized for his ground game, or lack thereof, for which he apparently makes no excuses (he has lost five times via submission in his eight career losses).
The crafty "Hitman" does have five submission wins to his credit, including a memorable arm-triangle choke over Drew McFedries at UFC 68 in March 2007.
Kampmann last competed at UFC Fight Night 18: "Condit vs. Kampmann," spoiling the Octagon debut of World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) Welterweight Champion and top-ranked 170-pound fighter Carlos Condit.
He defeated Alexandre Barros via second round technical knockout at UFC 93: "Franklin vs. Henderson" in his 170-pound debut earlier this year.
This will mark the third time that Kampmann competes at 170 pounds after getting booted from the middleweight division by Nate Marquardt at UFC 88: "Breakthrough" back in September 2008.
And if he is able to perform well like he did on April 1, he'll likely face Georges St. Pierre for the division crown in early 2010.
UFC 103 will feature a main event between Rich "Ace" Franklin and Vitor "The Phenom" Belfort at a 195-pound catchweight. Also slated for the main card is a heavyweight tilt between former PRIDE superstar Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic and surging heavyweight prospect Junior Dos Santos.
For the latest UFC 103 fight card click here .
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Well mania needs to change the page up! This after a kamp vs swick hype video.
Anyway, good fight. Daley could take this you know, would be a big coming out party for him.
by Nick J on Sep 4, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
RAMPAGE VS EVANS HAS BEEN SCRAPPED FROM UFC 107
rampage doesnt have enough time to prepare for the fight because of that stupid a-team movie..bj/sanchez replaces it
by newfie on Sep 4, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Phuck Rampage. Can’t stand that guy any more. How can you take him seriously?
by Adam T. on Sep 4, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Swick musta got KTFO then, no bueno when you’re getting your @ss kicked that bad in training. Someone either needs to tone it down a notch or it’s just a bad sign for Swicks longevity.
by O damn he got caught on Sep 4, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Going into what would most likely have been a stand-up fight with a recent concussion is never a good idea.
If Kos or Fitch is to blame, maybe this will piss Swick off enough to actually fight one of them!
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
unbelievable…Apparently you can’t take him seriously.
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
lol McArthur, I hope that was mean to be a joke… Religitimize the strongest LHW division of any organization ever to exist? Had to be a joke.
by Skope on Sep 4, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
that was a joke but not the part about not taking Rampage seriously
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually don’t think the LHW division is as deep as everyone makes it out to be. The top 10 aside from Machida are all a bunch of strikers who aren’t even that great or technical. This is a division where Keith Jardine was considered top 10 for a great span of time and where Forrest Griffin used to be champ.
by frosnt on Sep 4, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He calls Machida “La Cheetah” and then says that he was embarrassed for Forrest after the Silva fight and didn’t even want a rematch after watching it. Rampage is the embarrassment. Dana must be livid right now.
by Adam T. on Sep 4, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
he should be…one of the biggest reasons for having the show is to hype that fight…the fight that is now off before the show has even started…BRUTAL
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Mac, check out the Fedor/Rogers thread for my tirade, erm, thoughts, on the matter.
;-)
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually in my opinion Rampage won the fight against Griffin and Griffin/Rashad should never have been champs in the first place.
Rampage is deservingly the #2 LHW in the world, and will stay there for a long time, because noone will beat him except maybe Machida when he finally gets his titleshot.
Rashad will look like a fool against Rampage. He will not even last as long as against Machida. Him and Forrest are nothing, and never were more than just a bunch of UFC-overhyped tv show contenders.
by Skope on Sep 4, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
would not surprise me if the ATeam producers convinced him to hold off for 2 reasons
1. So that they did not lose money with delays
2. A Page loss would have def hurt the movie…Mr. T never loses a fight and 2 have Page lose one could possibly hurt sales…ie. maybe Shad should have been Mr. T
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Mac BA did lose one fight in the A-Team. It was to Toru Tanaka, the guy who played Sub Zero in the Running man. BA beat him in the end of show rematch though.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn K-Dog that’s impressive… ;) I never watched 1 episode of that show.
by Alpha Male on Sep 4, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing is for sure. In the unlikey event that Daley does win this fight, the UFC will be screwed in terms of a contender at welterweight for the year-end card.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
“Mortal Kombat” Sub-Zero? he’s one of my idols…
Rampage has always been in the sport for the money, I guess he’s getting paid well for doing that movie..
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
They’ll hurt each other in practice
but wont fight each other. Nice!!!!
by El Mexicutioner, formerly The Mexicutioner on Sep 4, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Semtex for the Upset! Kampman wont be able to take him down and get battered!
by john G on Sep 4, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly think the problem with the UFC is how it is scored.
It amazes me that a guy doing 5 min of lay and pray can win a fight. If the fighter does no reasonable damage then call that an even round, or consider it neutral. You should not get points either for punching once and running like Kenny Florian does.
It blows my mind that they gave Kenny round 2 against BJ. Kenny just holds him against the wall and lands an occassional jab. A quick high school boxer may be able to steal a round from BJ using this strategy, although he wouldn’t hurt him for a second.
by JeremyJackscan on Sep 4, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I am with John here. That was why i mentioned in the Swick thread why my early pick was Semtex. I am not convinced about Martin’s TDs and standing while they’re both technical- Daley packs way more power. I also gotta say that his sub defense on the ground is definitely better than Drew McFedries for those drawing the comparison.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 4, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on guys, seriously?
Who has Daley beaten to show he can take out Kampmann? Kampmann was beating good UFC MIDDLEWEIGHTS while Daley fought cans in the UK. It’s one thing looking like Bruce Lee against cans, quite another trying that stuff on elite fighters. He lost to Nick Thompson not long ago. He would be better off cutting to 155. He is getting owned on the 19th.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
McFedries was absolutely killing Kampmann on the feet. That’s what leads me to believe it. If that fight didn’t go to the ground, he would have been KO’d easy. You saw how bad Nate mugged him. That fight was all power and pressure. If you don’t let up on him then you’ve the fight in the bag. Like i said, this fight is decided in the wrestling and i don’t Martin’s will cut it here.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 4, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, good logic NNR, but McFedries and Marquardt are HUGE compared to Daley, and Kampmann still came out on top in one of those fights. That’s the big flaw I see in that reasoning. Kampmann will be able to drag Daley to the ground whenever he wants, and I’m not even convinced he has to.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
McFedries is one of the absolute best and most explosive standup fighters in the UFC! so no shame in losing a standup battle with him, if nobody took McFedries down his record would have been all victories except for the loss to Cote..
Drew is also alot bigger than Semtex is!
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If Maia didn’t take anyone down he would have lost every fight in the UFC.. that is the worst logic ever..
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Question then guys – who do you think has better takedowns out of John Alessio and Martin Kampmann? I can’t make up my mind. We saw Daley defend Alessio’s takedowns. I don’t bother with Martin’s takedown game against Condit coz Carlos can’t defend a shot to save his life. This is turning into wrestling math.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 4, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Alessio is easier to defend because he’s not very dangerous on his feet and you know it’s coming. Kampmann can mix in quick strikes and make things much more unpredictable.
Plus, like I said, Daley has power but Kampmann is a skilled enough kickboxer to use his reach and speed to negate that. I think he will do fine in the stand-up as well.
Do you think Daley would have beaten Condit as well?
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask yourself this – who is the better kickboxer? Kampmann or John Alessio?
Kampmann is tall for the weight class, he can drag him to the ground whenever he wants to, just like Jake Shields did..
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Same thing with that fight, stylistically i think it favors Daley again even though Condit has shown a ton of grit in his fights. I don’t think condit could take him down and standing again both technical but Daley packs way more power. Maybe if he can outwork daley and gas him out but yea. Great comparison though! I don’t know maybe i am looking at their styles from too general a view. Got any insight on their wrestling styles that makes you think Martin or Condit could put him down?
by NameNotRequired on Sep 4, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
RoB, Mortal Combat Sub-Zero and Running Man Sub Zero are two different guys…Is that guy in Running Man called Sub-Zero?
Dog, I can’t find BA’s first fight with that guy in episode 1. Are you sure it happened?
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
the guy who played Sub-Zero in Mortal Kombat though, is currently carrying an 8th degree black belt in Goshindo Ju-Jitsu and a 7th degree black belt in Karate DO, along with a 3rd degree black belt in Judo.
pretty impressive!
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Daley is much bigger and stronger then Martin. Semtex is instantly the 2nd best striker in the WW division behind Alves. He use dto fight at middleweight so Semtex is HUGE for a WW.
No doubt in my mind that Semtex will pull off the upset!
I hate watching Swick fight and I was pissed that Semtex wasnt going to be televised. Swick getting hurt and Semtex stepping up is a dream come true.
Bunch of you doubters will be pretending to be Daley fans the day after UFC 103. KO of the night!
by john G on Sep 5, 2009 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions
best idea I’ve heard today…I’ve only been awake for half hour but good idea
by McArthur on Sep 5, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Silva’s supposedly picked up an elbow injury, out till next year I think.
by attakdog on Sep 5, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Mac i think BA’s fight is with Sub Zero in an episode called the Maltese Falcon.
Arnie gives the famous line in the running man “Here is sub zero, now plain zero!”
by attakdog on Sep 5, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely happens Mac, just found it, BA gives SZ two of his best hooks, no effect, then SZ staggers BA with an open palm strike and a kick then throws him over his shoulder BA style.
by attakdog on Sep 5, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
This a one of the best replacements i can recall… ever?
Its a real close one to have to call. Each fighter has reason to end this early. Kamp will want to stay out and jab/low kick and attempt the TD when he can. Semtex is looking to get close and throw down and he can wrestle. IMO I think Kamp can weather his storm and be patient enough to wait for the opening.
Seeing Semtex fight in Canada’s MFC I think Kamp is a big step up right now, as a first fight in a UFC arena.
Hitman submission RNC 2nd round
by Big Zino on Sep 4, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree what an awesome replacement. I know Hitman is a big test for Semtex but I have to go with Semtex just cause I like the guy. Awesome that Swick got out of this one or else he would have been eating canvas, he should fight the winner of this one and eat canvas anyway.
by Cogito Ergo Sum on Sep 4, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
pffft your all jokes if you think semtex is a tougher fight for swick
by JG on Sep 4, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Swick gets no respect from anybody on this site. His only loss was to Yushin Okami at middleweight where he almost came back to win that fight. Swick would kick either one of their asses and give GSP as good a fight as Fitch or Alves did. WAR SWICK!
by Adam T. on Sep 4, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree Adam T. , been a Swick fan for a long time. This absolutely sucks. I would have loved to see him and GSP fight. Semtex is not even close to a big name replacement for Swick and this hurts what was already one of the weakest cards in recent memory. I mean Franklin vs Belfort as a main event? come on…good fight, yes. Main event, no.
by theCloser on Sep 4, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I LMAO when some of the guys on here gave Saunders a chance in that last fight. That was the easiest money you could ever make.
by Adam T. on Sep 4, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Im watchin the hardcore sports net thing on the score and morency is talkin sumthing like brett rogers trained with brock and he hit brock hard and brock got pissed crad in and he got ktfo ….. i doubt it happened but u never know
by JG on Sep 4, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
the guy is having bret rogers as a guest in like 10-20 mins if you got the score network
by JG on Sep 4, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah , brett rogers said it wasnt true and that hes never even stood face-2-face with brock even tho they are both from minnisoda but he said they will fight 1 day lol
by JG on Sep 4, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, watched Daley lose to Satoru Kitaoka, who is likely a can.
by JeremyJackscan on Sep 4, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Kitaoka is a can since when? He’s a top 10 LW in most ranking, definitely top 15. He has one of meanest smash game p4p in MMA and is one sick leglocker, as well as his extremely underrated Guillotine. Watch him embarrass guys like Uno on the ground in training over at sherdog. Alpha can attest to it.
by NameNotRequired on Sep 4, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s the vid i talked about him my previous post- absolute sick business
by NameNotRequired on Sep 4, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
15th behind gilbert melendez/sean shrek
by JeremyJackscan on Sep 4, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
How good is 15th?
Let me give the bloody elbow 15th ranking for the other weight classes:
HW: Crocop
LHW: Iceman
MW: Bisping/Alessio Sakara
WW: Jay Hieron
A real who’s who of mixed martial arts.
Oh yeah, Frank Trigg and Matt Serra are actually higher ranked than Daley
by JeremyJackscan on Sep 4, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
But at LW, you can see the margin by which fighters differ. You don’t think melendez or sherk stand a sliver of a chance against aoki or alvarez or etc..?
by NameNotRequired on Sep 5, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way guys, I’m hearing Rampage is on to Fight Rashad still and starts camp in oct.
by kevin on Sep 4, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope its a slugfest, i wonder if winner still gets a crack at gsp?
by roy on Sep 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, my guess is Kampmann will get the shot if, I mean WHEN, he wins. It’s disappointing, but at least they replaced Swick with an exciting fighter.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
But with only 3 wins at 170 that even seems unlikely. I remember when the WW division was the most stacked. Dana has to get some new guys. Diaz, Shields, the DREAM title holder (forget his name) somebody…
by BNF on Sep 4, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Truth be told, in the UFC Sak is a LW. The Zaromskis kid who just KO’d Sakurai and and Jason High with savage headkicks to win the Grand Prix is a big WW though, and damn fun to watch.
That said, I can’t see him doing much against the big, dominant wrestlers in the UFC WW division, who would take him down and pound him out.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Zaromskis is on the juice, thats why he chose to go over to Japan. He is good but if he came to the UFC he’s struggle.
by Nick J on Sep 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Juice??? Maybe but maybe not…He handled Mack with ease and could make a statement at 170…WW’s who are 5’9, 5’10" don’t really need the juice as their cutting weight…roids help with injury recovery and aren’t really used by lighter weight class fighters as they ony add weight and make cutting more difficult…Zaromskis is good but its hard to say how he would fair in the UFC
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s who I was talking about JJ thanks. I am just trying to add new and exciting names to the pot and after Zaromskis’s last 2 preformances I would watch him anyday.
by BNF on Sep 4, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate people who have ‘sources’ on here but I train and am good friends with one of the top UK fighters outside of the UFC.
Not going to name drop because A) I will sound like a dick and B) There is always a chance that he will come on here and I will sound like a double dick and C) I doubt he would appriciate me spreading this.
But I asked him a while back what is happening with Zaromskis as I like watching him fight.
He told me that he is juicing and very blatantly and that he would be surprised if he fought again. Next thing I know he signs up to fight in Japan.
Still an exciting fighter to watch all the same.
by Nick J on Sep 4, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a chance if Daley wins, Kampmann possibly.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell no. Daley would need two more top 5 wins. And Kampmann should not get a shot for beating Semtex. I think it’s time for GSP to test the MW waters.
by Pat on Sep 4, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
nice padded victory for the hitman to go along with swick’s padded bra. jk this is heartbreaking. paul daley is a blowhard and doesn’t deserve to be on the main card.
by dropnskirtz on Sep 4, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
Poor turn of events. Hopefully Kampmann still gets the shot at GSP after he dismantles “Semtex”.
by GG on Sep 4, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
If kampmann can win this fight i dont care if its a split decision they should give him the next shot
If i was kampmann I wouldnt even take the fight can you imagine if he gets caught and loses I could understand if it was another top 5 ww but this is rediculous.
but even if the swick/kampmann fight would have still happened it wouldnt really matter niether one of those guys are even close to being on gsp’s level ther is currently NO ONE at welterwieght in the UFC or any other organazation across the globe that can hang with st pierre.
the only choices for gsp are to either dominate ww and break the record for most title defenses and replace hughes as the most dominate ww in history or move up to mw and challenge himself there im not saying against silva because i think silva would kill him but challenge guys like belfort, henderson, maia, leites, all guys I think he could beat.
by dia mette on Sep 4, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Who ever wins is going to be in serious trouble. If Daley wins and gets a title shot I will be mad.
by yoububg on Sep 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by manalito on Sep 4, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
More reasons for me to hate Koscheck. Damn, doesn’t he know how to spar at less 100%?? There goes the title shot for Swick. I feel bad for him, especially after just watching his hype video.
by Nick on Sep 4, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
do you think Koscheck went a little hard on purpose in hopes of hurting Swick so he could step up to fight the Hitman…think about it, if he won he might have got the title shot….serious conspiracy theory right there!!
by jet99 on Sep 4, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope semtex knocks him out or else wer guna see a wack ass lay & pray every round!
by d*locc on Sep 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
no, no you are mistaken, he’s fighting Kampmann, not Fitch. I know this is all confusing.
by theCloser on Sep 4, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven’t we already seen this fight..Oh wait, no that was Kampmann/McFedries.
by jk358 on Sep 4, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, if McFedries was a blown-up 5’9 lightweight, this would be the EXACT same fight…
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
agree 100%, kampmanns got a great chin and is ganna need it on the 19th because there is no other way he loses
if he can take the shots he took from drew he should have no problem with daley
but i can tell you this if not for that well timed td kampmann was a couple more blows from biting the dust in that bout
by dia mette on Sep 4, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow….That’s bad you would think his camp would be doing light contact when so close to the fight.
by jay on Sep 4, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
This sucks. Was looking forward to this fight! Does winner still get title shot at GSP?
by anom on Sep 4, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
Wow what a garbage card it is…
And again, FÚCK RAMPAGE!!
Cut that bástard from the UFC allready.
by Lester The Pimp on Sep 4, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed. Fuck Rampage. I can’t wait to hear what Dana has to say about the postponement of his fight.
by Adam T. on Sep 4, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana had this to say on it last week.
"I hate it with a (expletive) passion. You’re a fighter. You’re not a movie star. It’s so (expletive) funny because fighters want to be movie stars and movie stars want to act like they’re fighters. It’s like, get a grip. You’re a (expletive) fighter and you’re a movie star."
"Rampage wants to be a movie star. I hope it’s not true (about Jackson getting the role). He’s up for it, and he talked to me, he wants to do this thing, and he’s like, ‘listen, man, this is really important to me…there’s some sentimental value here for me, me and my Dad grew up watching The A-Team together and we loved it.’
Well, guess what, brother? I said, ‘guess what Rashad Evans is thinking about right now. He’s thinking about beating your (expletive) ass. He’s not sitting around thinking about him and his mom used to watch the (expletive) ‘Love Boat’ together, and he wants to get the role of ‘Isaac the Bartender’…you know what I mean? Get a (expletive) grip, dude. You’re going to make a lot of money. You ain’t gonna make a lot of money playing B.A. Baracus on the A-Team. Jesus Christ. (Expletive) drives me (expletive) nuts."
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. Funny stuff. I saw that on mmaweekly earlier in the week also.
by Adam T. on Sep 4, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine next weeks poetic rant from Dana will be more of the same.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was Dana I would just cut his a$$. They pay him a ton of money and barely get a return. He is not a PPV draw. They have catered to him and tried to make him a star. Undeserved title shots, reality show twice, bailed out of jail… What more can they do for this guy. And he repays them by turning down title shots and now doing movies. If I ever had the slightest bit of respect for Rampage it is all gone now. I love Forrest but, come on, he lost to Forrest. He will never be a champion again with Machida around. Fu*k Rampage… :-D
by BNF on Sep 4, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
TY BNF!! Finally some1 echoes my sentiments about Jackson!! I totally agree. They treat him so favorably and he’s never proven to be a PPV draw.
by frosnt on Sep 4, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
BNF, he’s the next biggest PPV draw in the LHW division after Ortiz… They make millions upon millions more $$ than they pay Rampage back! Rampage is making the UFC money not the other way around…
Rampage is a business man not a fighter, he has to do what’s right for Quinton Jackson and his family, not what’s best for Dana White!
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you figure? the ufc’s he’s on never seem to do great #s.
by frosnt on Sep 4, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we see how actual #’s. You guys are making quotes but not backing up with figures.
by JeremyJackscan on Sep 4, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, I do have all PPV numbers and stuff proving that Tito is the biggest draw ever in the UFC. same thing with Page. not to mention that Page fought on one of the lousiest cards of the year so far, last time against Jardine.
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
that card was bad…but for cards in general UFC 100 was weak too
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
P.S Where are the PPV numbers? I gotta get to bed soon. Golfin’ tomorra!!
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
just search “UFC PPV numbers” on the web and you’ll find some.. but I used to watch a guy on youtube talk about the numbers too, he said things that you don’t get to hear about from the UFC to ’cause they can tell us whatever they want and make things appear as they want, pretty interesting for me as an Ortiz fan..
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
riiight
I guess we like to forget UFC 92 which did more than 91: Couture vs. Lesnar with a total of 1.25 mil.
Rampage has always been a huge draw for the UFC and a guy that has stepped up when they needed him to. He fought Henderson in the UK on UFC 75 on just the 2nd ever PPV in the UK when he gets a % of profits. He fought Jardine in March when the UFC called and asked in desperate need of a main event.
He’s easily one of their top 3 draws. All you haters can suck it.
None of this is even confirmed anyways.
by Anthony on Sep 4, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Daley is overated and doesn’t stand much of a chance against Kampman. Looks like GSP will defend against Martin on the News years eve card in January. Now that the Rampage card is scrapped, this looks like the Main Event for the Superbowl Card will be him vs Rashad. I have a gut feeling Randy will fight Anderson on this card also.
by Kilby on Sep 4, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
Off topic but the fight night for September is about as good a fight night card as the UFC has ever put on from top to bottom. Awesome fights.
by Adam T. on Sep 4, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
wow. HUGE break for daley. Even if he doesnt win itll bring his name to the fore front. I see Kampmann taking this pretty easily. But then again. Its mma and daley is legitemate. Not top 10 or anything. But legit.
Sucks for swick. They should make him fight Karo next. Or idk someone. Since most of the top 10 guys in the ww division wont even fight each other.
by terriblet1one on Sep 4, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
i think swick chickend out cuz he knows gsp is guna own his ass!!
by d*locc on Sep 4, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Who says the Rampage-Rashad fight is scrapped? Any sources? Just speculation?
by Skope on Sep 4, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
mmabay exclusive. British site, quite close to the wolfsair.
by attakdog on Sep 4, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Daley will KO Kampman first round within first 2 minutes of the match.
by Khaos_Warrior on Sep 4, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
whatever troll, The Hitman is going to take the W.
by JRE on Sep 4, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually am excited about this… looking to see how Daley does against a standup guy, but he def. could get submitted
by shitleTOT.com on Sep 4, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions
SCREW THIS BULLSHIT FIGHT!! They should have replaced Swick with WHO??? ANTHONY JOHNSON!!! I would be much more excited to have seen that.
by UFC LOVA on Sep 4, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, AJ is ready for a top opponent. After all, he does hold victories over Tommy Speer, Kevin Burns AND Luigi Fioravanti.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be sweet! ’cause right now, AJ is fighting on the worst PPV card in years..
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
At least 104 has an epic main revent. UFC 96 was a crap PPV. Rampage/Jardine? Please.
by Jeremyjackson on Sep 4, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, chill bro. lol, forgot about that card.
by RoBerto on Sep 4, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Anthony Johnson is being protected, he’s showed real promise in his early fights, but is being fed cans of spam.
by Oskarbravo on Sep 4, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It was Koscheck’s fault! I knew it… That fu*king guy. Maybe now Swick will actually want to fight him to get his title shot. Sounds like a pretty easy fight for the UFC to sell to the fans.
by BNF on Sep 4, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
KOS looks like a duck…Duck-Man…..Beak-Boy…lol
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kampmann is going to sleep in this fight. Mark my words
by vinrex7 on Sep 4, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions
I marked them with red ink as they are probably incorrect…2 out of 10 times Kamp gets clipped and loses…
by McArthur on Sep 4, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
the injry bug is out in full force, reportedly Anderson Silva got hurt and will be out several months! I call bullshit! I feel its a ploy from his and his management team to force Nate and Hendo to fight…..its jsut to coincidental considering the fact that Anderson wasnt to keen on fighting hendo again and his mangagement’s requests to have Hendo and Nate fight to determine #1 contendership!!!
by manalito on Sep 4, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions
OHHHHHH damn its the FIGHT MAGAZINE curse again hahaha..
by $Curt$ on Sep 4, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions
I would love to see Daley take this, (just to f**k up the whole WW Titleshot picture) I hate predictable fight scenario’s.
by Oskarbravo on Sep 4, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
Good replacement for Swick. Have to agree with the majority. Neither Swick, Kampman, or Daley have a chance against GSP.
by jTp on Sep 4, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions
If Swick is getting KO’d by Koscheck in training he’s got no chance against GSP in a tile fight. I still remember him bitching in Season 1 of TUF, give up the ghost and go home.
by Oskarbravo on Sep 4, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
With so much drama in the UFC its kinda hard being d. Whitee, but he somehow someway keeps coming up with fights like every single day
by Daniel worby on Sep 4, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
But in all honesty, ya semtex can bang, but I see maynards wrestling being the big key to this, as he muscles Daley down and isn’t able to get back up.
Rampage? Ur not funny anymore, u dish out jokes that insult others, but when they do it back you complain. U couldn’t finish jardine. Now ur cancelling on the fight that u built and hyped like the 2nd coming of Christ?
Class act buddy. I’m a big fan but of what now? Ur not who ya used to be. I wouldn’t even mind if Evans smashes ya now. Teach u to grow up.
Go hump a reporter for an awkward long period of time ya 4 year old
by Daniel worby on Sep 4, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
Rumble should have been in there. Scrap his fight. Would be much more entertaining.
I don’t see winner getting GSP now regardless of if its Maynard.
But who? Hardy? Davis? Their marketability is alright but undeserved and they only fight in uk lol.
So what? Move GSP to mw to test the waters til this is resolved? No spider obviously, but maybe maia? Belfort? Wandy?
That may sound dumb, but I’m just throwing out ideas, as I don’t see kampmann/daley winner (still should be Maynard who wins), earning the shot off the vitory.
by Daniel worby on Sep 4, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
Maynard is a LW and Hardy just beat Davis so why would Davis get a contenders fight? Where does Maynard come into this story ever?
by jay on Sep 5, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuck me I’m embarrassed. Where the hell was Maynard coming from? Why was I thinking that. Lol I even still have semtex/kampmann in part of the post.
What the fuck was that? How the hell did I do that? Ugh forgive me guys. My body went numb from embarrassment when I saw that i’d put that.
Must of had the bully on the brain from a previous thread.
Fuck me
by Daniel worby on Sep 5, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow….now this is a fight. Two bad ass strikers. Sooo excited. Plus daley is from my home town.
F**K yeah!!! War Daley
by UK_Chris on Sep 4, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
Do you train dude? where at? Im from Notts too. Im at One Tribe MMA
by Insain on Sep 5, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Fitch should of took this fight! then Fitch and GSP could Fight In the Big Show that Rampage bowed out of !!! cause honestly, there could a 100 different number one contender fights in the world ….. but second to GSP is Jon Fitch …. If you argue that fact ….. Grow Up! ahah
by Josh on Sep 5, 2009 8:24 AM EDT reply actions
BJ vs Diego is booked to replace Rampage.
Everyone knows Fitch is number two. GSP vs Fitch1 was one of the most boring one sided beatdowns in living memory. The UFC certainly wont rush to book a rematch between those two and certainly not as a headline bout, as the marketing dept wouldn’t be able to convince anybody the fight would be competitive.
by attakdog on Sep 5, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks tips …… listen
Alves broke, GSP broke his will and broke his heart by the third round, Alves realized he has no chance to win, so far, Fitch is the only one to Continue to push the pace and keep moving forward against GSP, Although it was one side, Boring? what are you kidding me, it was a crazy fight, Fitch wouldnt Die! ahah
Im not bashing you attakdog, im just saying, I think Fitch would put a much better fight up then the first fight, and if it gets over with sooner than later, it would give Fitch (if he loses) a chance to move up to 185, where I think he could do real well!
by Josh on Sep 5, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions
I like Fitch a lot and he may well put up a better fight next time but would anyone pay to watch it???? The first fight was just so one sided nobody would buy it that fitch had any chance whatsoever. The only chance that fight ever has is as being a co main event on an end of year show or super bowl show, much like GSP/Alves was second to Brock vs Mir @ 100, as it just wouldn’t do the numbers by itself.
Not sure about Fitch moving up to MW, its rare you get a fighter move up in weight to further a career, they normally do the opposite and go down. If AS’s still knocking around he’d never get a title at MW either.
by attakdog on Sep 5, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
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